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Hey everyone,
I'm about to buy the Droid 3, Bell version to work on the Rogers network. I have read there are issues with the speakers, random reboots, call quality issues? Have these issues been fixed? Should I avoid this phone or is it worth buying? I love Motorola. Would love to hear your experience with your Droid 3 since most of have had it since day one.
Thank you.
Had a problem with the headphone jack
The headphone jack stop working on my phone after a few weeks, couldn't return it or anything bought it off of craigslist. Wasn't a deal breaker for me though, got a pair of bluetooth head phones and been happy with it. Running the liberty rom with the sd card boost, and the phone flies.
Is the headset jack a known problem? I didn't read about that. Not a deal breaker for me because I use a BT headset as well. So everything is working great for you? Is the liberty rom better than steel droid?
Wirelessgirl said:
Is the headset jack a known problem? I didn't read about that. Not a deal breaker for me because I use a BT headset as well. So everything is working great for you? Is the liberty rom better than steel droid?
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I saw it on a few phones, but I don't think it is that common. I don't know about steel droid. I'm waiting on the bugs to work out enough to load hash's ICS rom.
Wirelessgirl said:
Hey everyone,
I'm about to buy the Droid 3, Bell version to work on the Rogers network. I have read there are issues with the speakers, random reboots, call quality issues? Have these issues been fixed? Should I avoid this phone or is it worth buying? I love Motorola. Would love to hear your experience with your Droid 3 since most of have had it since day one.
Thank you.
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Thespeaker issue is really quite minor, a garbled ringtone occasionally that fixes right away, I've never had a random reboot, I know others have but I believe its been fixed with the latest update. Never heard of call quality problems
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Endoroid said:
Thespeaker issue is really quite minor, a garbled ringtone occasionally that fixes right away, I've never had a random reboot, I know others have but I believe its been fixed with the latest update. Never heard of call quality problems
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Thanks for posting. I see you're with Bell. How long have you had the phone for? How is it holding up so far? Also, were you able to root the phone? I want to get it and use it on the Rogers network.
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Thanks for posting. I see you're with Bell. How long have you had the phone for? How is it holding up so far? Also, were you able to root the phone? I want to get it and use it on the Rogers network.
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I've had it since shortly after release, when I first got it, on android 2.3.4 it was grabage, terrible battery life, issues with keyboard input so bad it was unusable, no dev for it. I was ready to sell it. Now that we have2.3.6 it an awesome phone. Between the software fixes and the ability to flash custom roms I have no issues with my phone. I love it. Rooting is no problem. Search for zergrush root method. Unlock for use on rogers is doable, I tried unlocking it for use when I travel in the states but had some problems getting a code but many others have sim unlocked theirs. I think its just persistance, if one place can't find the code, another will. I've heard a site called mobileincanada(I think) works well, I haven't tried it yet
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I played around with the XT860 last night and the keyboard is too wide for me to use. I have small hands and found there's quite a bit of travel when trying to type a sentence. I really want an Android with a physical qwerty keyboard but there aren't that many choices out there. I did try the Droid Pro but found the keys were too low and hard to press on. Any suggestions?
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I played around with the XT860 last night and the keyboard is too wide for me to use. I have small hands and found there's quite a bit of travel when trying to type a sentence. I really want an Android with a physical qwerty keyboard but there aren't that many choices out there. I did try the Droid Pro but found the keys were too low and hard to press on. Any suggestions?
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Coming from a blackberry I found the same at first. Was hard to reach the middle keys but I'm used to it now
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Endoroid said:
Thespeaker issue is really quite minor, a garbled ringtone occasionally that fixes right away, I've never had a random reboot, I know others have but I believe its been fixed with the latest update. Never heard of call quality problems
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I originally had a lot of problems with my keyboard, there's some sort of plastic overlay for the keys that wasn't seated properly or something. Moto fixed it. Have you played around with the SG 2 at all and just the onscreen keyboard? In portrait it might be exactly what you're looking for though I would expect in landscape it would be too wide again because of the size of the phone, other than that the Dext has a lot smaller keyboard but it's 1/4 the phone but it's also a slider.
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Coming from a blackberry I found the same at first. Was hard to reach the middle keys but I'm used to it now
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I use a BlackBerry as my main device but I'm having a lot of problems with it. I was thinking about switching over to an Android as my main device and BlackBerry as my secondary device. But nothing beats the keyboard on the BlackBerry. It's so easy to type on them. Again the issue I have is the keyboard is a lot wider than the standard BlackBerry keyboard that I'm used to for so many years. There's no travel required when I'm typing on my BlackBerry. On the XT860 I find that I am reaching for a number of keys. I don't think this is a matter of getting used to. It's the fact that I have very small hands. For me to transition to a touchscreen keyboard is extremely hard at this time. I'm not saying it will never happen. But I don't know if I could live without a physical keyboard at this time.
Any other suggestions? Help me please! I love Android!
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I originally had a lot of problems with my keyboard, there's some sort of plastic overlay for the keys that wasn't seated properly or something. Moto fixed it. Have you played around with the SG 2 at all and just the onscreen keyboard? In portrait it might be exactly what you're looking for though I would expect in landscape it would be too wide again because of the size of the phone, other than that the Dext has a lot smaller keyboard but it's 1/4 the phone but it's also a slider.
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I played around with the SG 2 but I don't want to get a Samsung because they don't have an led notification light for alerts. As a BlackBerry user, I got so spoiled with the led notification light for alerts and it's a must have for me. So it's either Motorola, HTC, or Sony. Too bad the Galaxy Nexus is such a big phone.
Does anyone think the vibration feature is a little loose/rough? I am coming from an iPhone 5 so I am not sure what to expect. It is almost as if rattles but the case and buttons seem rock solid.
Mine is loud. Almost more of a rattle than a vibration.
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Same, only thing that feels cheap...maybe the power and volume buttons too.
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Same, only thing that feels cheap...maybe the power and volume buttons too.
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Me too. It's pretty annoying. I had a razr hd when it was released and it never made this noise. I was given a refurbished razr hd and sure enough, it's vibration (more like rattle) sounds just like the vibration the Moto X makes. Two more replacement razr hds and they both had the same weird rattle. I'm wondering if they changed the vibrate component in the razr hd and are using the same one in the Moto X.
Mine to. I've got haptic feedback turned off, and reduced the intensity for the keyboard. Only thing left is the vibration for the active notifications but there doesn't seem to be a setting for it. I'm going to be ordering a replacement for other reasons, hopefully the motor will be a little weaker on the new one.
The vibration is indeed pretty harsh and bad.
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The vibration is indeed pretty harsh and bad.
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Not that I am happy but at least it is normal. Everything else seems nice about the phone so I am moving on now...
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Not that I am happy but at least it is normal. Everything else seems nice about the phone so I am moving on now...
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Vibration is one thing Samsung seems to get right with the linear vibration motors they use
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I just want to be able to turn off vibrate on the active notifications, hate how it vibrates when pressing and sliding the icon.
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I just want to be able to turn off vibrate on the active notifications, hate how it vibrates when pressing and sliding the icon.
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I just want to be able to turn off vibrate on the active notifications, hate how it vibrates when pressing and sliding the icon.
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I have both the Droid Mini and the X and strangely the Mini doesn't do the annoying vibrate stuff with active notifications. Hopefully they will get rid of it from the X too.
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I've owned the iPhone 5, I think its vibration is a little rough.. It was bad on my RAZR M as well, I love my Galaxy Nexus' vibrate.
Maybe we should consider the Mini....?
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Isn't a rough vibration better than a smooth one? Your body is more likely to detect harsh vibrations that startle you as opposed to smooth continuous ones that feel like a tickle. Previous phones I have had (N4, Gnex, SGS2), the vibrations are too soft to grab my attention, especially when in the jeans pocket. MotoX is probably the first one that doesn't seem weak.
I have no issues with feeling the GalNex vibrate, but I mean... I see your logic.
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Isn't a rough vibration better than a smooth one? Your body is more likely to detect harsh vibrations that startle you as opposed to smooth continuous ones that feel like a tickle. Previous phones I have had (N4, Gnex, SGS2), the vibrations are too soft to grab my attention, especially when in the jeans pocket. MotoX is probably the first one that doesn't seem weak.
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I've got to agree. On my S4, I miss almost every call due to the vibration being too soft. I remember one of the first thoughts I had when using the X was how cheap the vibration feels. After having it a few days, it's really grown on me though- it feels more substantial. This could be genius or pure accident, but to me it sounds like the "plastic on plastic" sound physical phone keyboards used to make.
On the flipside (literally?), when the phone is on a desk and it vibrates - its basically an 8 on the Richter scale...lol
Wonder if we can side load the mini`s apk and it will not have the vibrate then. Could anyone post it?
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Definitely one of the first things I noticed on mine was the rattling. Very disappointed as its probably the only thing I don't like so far. Couldn't it be remedied by a kernel update or something that controls vibration strength?
So this rattling vibration is actually normal? I just got my Moto X and it's the first thing I noticed. I was about to call Sprint and exchange it but if this is normal, I guess there's no point.
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Me too. It's pretty annoying. I had a razr hd when it was released and it never made this noise. I was given a refurbished razr hd and sure enough, it's vibration (more like rattle) sounds just like the vibration the Moto X makes. Two more replacement razr hds and they both had the same weird rattle. I'm wondering if they changed the vibrate component in the razr hd and are using the same one in the Moto X.
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I just purchased a black Moto X from at&t yesterday. Same exact vibration as described by multiple people in this thread.
Coming from a Samsung it is very disturbing, but I am sure I will get used to it. Planned on doing an exchange until I saw this thread. No other complaints about the phone other than this.
I like a smooth sounding / feeling vibration like the Samsung. This one just sounds rough, but is much more intense than Samsung.
Anybody else just get a newer one and notice this?
you guys have to remember that the vibration motor is the only moving part (well, besides the camera shutter) in the entire phone. it's literally a weighted piece of metal that rotates, to give the sensation of vibration. frankly i'm glad it can be felt at all, given the size and weight of the motor itself. older devices that had tons of room could vibrate off of your table and on to the floor (think pagers).
really, as long as it's audible and i can feel it in my pocket, i'm just happy it vibrates.
I can't stand the haptic feedback on this phone especially in a quiet room. The vibration is more like a rattle and it doesn't matter how I set it. Is there a mod to turn off ALL haptic feedback? Any one else have issues with a rattle near the top of the phone with haptic feedback on? I almost want to go back to my note II.
You mean the rattly vibration on the keyboard?
I did on my weave black moto x. But I just got my motomaker one and it doesn't rattle like my other one. Its much better
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Yeah mine has a noisy vibrator too. 1st batch that came out...
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Mine is somewhat rattly and I got my DE during the cyber Monday sale.
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My only complaint about the phone. I have vibration disabled across the board but it still vibrates when unlocking through active notifications and it annoys the crap out of me. I've gotten used to it, but I wish I didn't have to. I have a launch day motomaker 32gb. My Nexus 5 has awesome haptic feedback, completely silent but strong enough to feel it when you need to. I wish that's how the X was.
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My only complaint about the phone. I have vibration disabled across the board but it still vibrates when unlocking through active notifications and it annoys the crap out of me. I've gotten used to it, but I wish I didn't have to. I have a launch day motomaker 32gb. My Nexus 5 has awesome haptic feedback, completely silent but strong enough to feel it when you need to. I wish that's how the X was.
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You must have gotten lucky with your N5. Most people have a problem with the vibration motor. But yeah, I know what you mean by that. The N4 was the same way. As well as most other LG phones.
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You must have gotten lucky with your N5. Most people have a problem with the vibration motor. But yeah, I know what you mean by that. The N4 was the same way. As well as most other LG phones.
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I got real lucky with it, not a single defect that other people complain about. No dead pixels, literally zero light bleed, tight buttons, pretty good battery life, and awesome vibration. I never get perfect phones, they always have some sort of annoying defect. It's nice for a change lol
My haptic is rattly as well. I don't think it is a defect, just a different implementation from what I am used to. I am coming from a GS3 and the haptic was much more subtle. I wish it could be changed, but I'm dealing with it ok.
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My only complaint about the phone. I have vibration disabled across the board but it still vibrates when unlocking through active notifications and it annoys the crap out of me. I've gotten used to it, but I wish I didn't have to. I have a launch day motomaker 32gb. My Nexus 5 has awesome haptic feedback, completely silent but strong enough to feel it when you need to. I wish that's how the X was.
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Yeah, since they released the new revision of the N5(bigger speaker holes and fixed buttons), I think I might just buy one.
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Yeah, since they released the new revision of the N5(bigger speaker holes and fixed buttons), I think I might just buy one.
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Mine was a launch N5 so when I say I got lucky, I mean LUCKY haha. But the new ones supposedly mitigate some of the problems like you said. Go for it, it's a great phone and a great value.
I too hate the haptic feedback on this phone, I have it turned off all the time, but as we all know you can't turn it off from active notification.
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Some phones are better than others. Had 1 moto x with horrible rattling, the other 3 i've had are acceptable. The moto x itself doesn't have the best of vibration motors. Can always replace if you cant stand yours, maybe you'll have more luck.
I have to wonder if they just have the vibration timers set weird in software. I use Swype with haptic feedback turned on, and since it lets you adjust the timing of the vibration, it gives some room to play with things. I set mine to 15ms and it's not bad.
The default vibration modes do suck... I totally agree that it's a little "rattly".
I'm running a 32GB MotoMaker VZW phone from the CyberMonday run.
My haptic feedback rattly as will, that is only compliance I have with the phone
Moto X DE just few weeks before Cyber Monday
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I've got a minor rattle on mine. If I squeeze the top of the phone together, near the headphone jack, it goes away.
Something is clearly loose in there.
My original that I had from the VZW store rattled badly. My Dev edition is quiet and soft like my MAXX
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Thanks for the feedback guys. I've gone ahead and RMA'd the phone. I'll keep the thread updated. Ugh, going from a Moto X DE to a Note II is a challenge.
Do you guys hear it rattle if you tap on the back towards the top. Also will do it if I sit it down with the top touching first.
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Do you guys hear it rattle if you tap on the back towards the top. Also will do it if I sit it down with the top touching first.
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Mine rattles when I tap towards the top.
I currently have a Droid 3 and due to its many problems (random reboots, stuck with a black screen, keys not working properly) I am looking into replacing it. Since I want a phone with a physical keyboard I don't have much to choose from, so I am also looking at the Droid 4, especially because you can get them for ~€100 on Ebay now.
So my question is: are there any common problems like the ones I have on the Droid 3 also on the Droid 4?
Just one, the speaker sometimes stops working. I've repaired several (as easy as bend some metal pins of insert a piece of paper to use as a shim).
No problems worth mentioning other than that.
You should also consider the Photon Q 4G LTE. It's faster/snappier.
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I currently have a Droid 3 and due to its many problems (random reboots, stuck with a black screen, keys not working properly) I am looking into replacing it. Since I want a phone with a physical keyboard I don't have much to choose from, so I am also looking at the Droid 4, especially because you can get them for ~€100 on Ebay now.
So my question is: are there any common problems like the ones I have on the Droid 3 also on the Droid 4?
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I'm having the speaker issue... since I don't really talk on the phone much, I've been living with it. Now it's gotten to the point where I can barely hear thru it at all. I sent off for a replacement ($7 or so on amazon). I'm just about to replace it, but I'm having some crazy GPS issues. Like two map programs showed my off the coast of Ghana the other day. My husband's Droid Razr GPS finds him just fine sitting right next to me, on the same carrier.
I'm not finding anyone else with this issue, so it could be a fluke. I'm running some diagnostics now. Not quite sure if this is a deal-breaker yet. I really do love having a keyboard. I'd hate to go back to Blackberry For reference: I've had the Droid 4 for almost 2 years now and it's held up well. I rooted it almost right away and let it update to ICS. I have not updated to JB (there were keyboard issues back then with JB... it could be fixed now, but I just like ICS too much to bother lol)
I want to use the phone in Europe so the Photon Q would be a bit more work (it has a soldered-in SIM-card which needs to replaced by a SIM-holder).
I am also looking at the Samsung Stratosphere II and the Galaxy S Relay.
So no random reboots or lockups? That sounds great.
I just want to make sure since I won't be able to use any warranty for an US-phone in Europe. Sadly there are no half-decent Androids with a keyboard in Europe. The best there is is the S4 with the keyboard-attachment, but that combo is so incredibly thick...
In a house hold of four I also had four Droids. Except the speaker problem I never had any issues. Yeah sure an occasional reboot. But that's it. I still have Droid 4 as backup phone in case one of the Photon dies. But that will also be replaced by a spare Photon as soon as possible.
I'm opening up this thread to gauge peoples opinions of whether they will be upgrading to the next iteration of our favourite mobile device. IMHO it looks good, with the addition of IP67 and wireless charging, along with the wonderful addition of the chroma lighting of the logo. Let's hope it lives up to it's predecessors high build quality. Put your thoughts down, let's discuss
I hope the vibration motor is better this time around and the bluetooth software has improved. These two things made me sell my razer. I would not connect in my car when every other phone has had no issues.
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If someone wants to buy my Razer phone for €700, I would buy the Razer Phone 2... But for now I'm still happy with this one.
Not missing the headphone jack. Bluetooth headset works great.
Not missing ip67. I never use my phone in the rain or in the shower.
Not missing brighter screen. Only use it outside sometimes (then I'm missing a brighter screen, but I can live with that).
Not missing the rgb logo. I'm using a case.
I might change if the Razer Phone 4 comes along...
I'll be upgrading if:
- Verizion is compatible
- The camera quality is improved
- The speakers are more durable; mine became distorted a couple months ago, pretty sure they are blown.
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I'll be upgrading if:
- Verizion is compatible
- The camera quality is improved
- The speakers are more durable; mine became distorted a couple months ago, pretty sure they are blown.
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Razer phone 2 improved on all of those things. Verizon compatible, improved cameras, 50% higher brightness. Even has band 71 for T-Mobile. The speakers are water and dust resistant now (IP67). I wouldn't be surprised if you had a bunch of dust in your speakers. Happens all the time to my phones. I have to take 99% isopropyl alcohol and vacuum out the speakers. After that, my speakers work great. I work in a dusty environment and I know exactly what you're talking about.
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I hope the vibration motor is better this time around and the bluetooth software has improved. These two things made me sell my razer. I would not connect in my car when every other phone has had no issues.
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I forget who I watched on YouTube, but they said the vibration motor is greatly improved. Bluetooth is probably fixed too, because it's using the snapdragon 845.
How is the update schedule of the first razer phone? Looking into this phone...peaked my interest....
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Razer phone 2 improved on all of those things. Verizon compatible, improved cameras, 50% higher brightness. Even has band 71 for T-Mobile. The speakers are water and dust resistant now (IP67). I wouldn't be surprised if you had a bunch of dust in your speakers. Happens all the time to my phones. I have to take 99% isopropyl alcohol and vacuum out the speakers. After that, my speakers work great. I work in a dusty environment and I know exactly what you're talking about.
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I forget who I watched on YouTube, but they said the vibration motor is greatly improved. Bluetooth is probably fixed too, because it's using the snapdragon 845.
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True, that is what is so far just stated by Razer and s couple of YouTubers, as far as the camera, speakers and screen goes.
We really won't be able to really know how much of an improvement the new phone is until we start getting some actual hands on reviews once the new phone ships out.
I've only seen a couple reviews, even though they where hands on, didn't see any camera samples or anything.
Verizion capability will really sell me on this phone. I had to switch to AT-T and the coverage in my town is horrible. I use straight talk so I don't have wifi calling either.
I almost sold my phone and went back to my old Droid Turbo 2, but honestly after using this 120hz screen, it's physically painful to look at a 60hz screen now!
Not even the $1200 iPhones have a screen this great!
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NO WAY!!
I have lost faith in razer as they are responsible for breaking bluetooth and not fixing it. It could have been a great device if they had given it the support it deserved instead of dropping it and moving on to the 2. Switched to the oneplus 6, just wish it had front firing speakers.
Keep these opinions coming, I for one will be upgrading but I still think we need to keep this discussion going
I have been looking at this phone too I like the design of it. I had a razer phone way back when. I have a bootloader unlocked rooted LG v30 US998 now. I know this is the wrong place to say this but lets hope we get some dev to work on unlocking the bootloader and root so we can have some good roms.
Looking to get it as well and finally retire my champ of a Nexus 6!
Just got my phone in the mail today. Only probably that I have had so far is that I can't receive texts. I can send texts on WiFi and off but can't receive. Will update tomorrow when I get back from Verizon.
I'm excited-should be the best phone out
How'd it go?
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Just got my phone in the mail today. Only probably that I have had so far is that I can't receive texts. I can send texts on WiFi and off but can't receive. Will update tomorrow when I get back from Verizon.
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How'd it go?
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Well they swapped out the old SIM for new SIM. When they put the new Sim in the phone I was not able to make any phone calls or send out any Text due to it having to wait to register on the network so they put in the old SIM and I still was not able to send text but I was able to receive phone calls and make calls. When I got home I got in contact with razor and they were no help. Upon doing some research online through Twitter I found this post.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Razer/status/1054749294509649922
I found a Verizon fix on reddit. Just call, ask for Tier 2 support, say you want a CDMA-less profile. Give them your IMEI, ICCID for sim, and your number. Worked for me.
As far as the camera goes, there threads on here about it - it blows, but there's a gcam port already, and it's 'day and night', makes it totally usable. Not gonna be like pixels, but not a dealbreaker either
I just received my Razer Phone 2 and am enjoying it, but I can find no documentation whatsoever. Does anyone have a link to a manual? Still no firmware files either.
I am trying to use Chroma to show Outlook notifications, but there is so little information available, I am having problems. Any ideas?
No front led notification light. The only way to receive notifications is via the Chroma logo on the back.
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I just received my Razer Phone 2 and am enjoying it, but I can find no documentation whatsoever. Does anyone have a link to a manual? Still no firmware files either.
I am trying to use Chroma to show Outlook notifications, but there is so little information available, I am having problems. Any ideas?
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Press the "Arrows" button on the corner of the logo box in the Chroma app. An option will appear to show notifications on the logo. There's no customisation it just picks the colour from the app icon and blinks. You need at least the lowest light setting to be on.