Hey there,
xplodwild here, I did the announcement session at BABBQ, it was awesome. Thanks for everyone who were there.
So yeah, we didn't prepare a lot of YouTube demo videos yet, but all the information about the philosophy of Omni are available on Omni website: http://omnirom.org/why-omni/.
We are a ROM different than others: we are focused on performance, cohesion, stability, innovation, code quality, community and open source. And the community more than anything else. You are using the ROM, you should be choosing what you want to have.
When we're taking a patch from another ROM, we're trying as much as possible to enhance it before merging it. When we're getting new features, we give you a way to give early feedback, early access to prototypes, early access to mockups, etc, so that we know immediately early on if we're doing it right.
All the contributions will be GPL licensed (at least we'll be pushing for it). People will be able to vote up and down on patches,
Some of the key features of Omni:
Flippable Quick Settings
Roadrunner mode
Multi-window(!)
Daydream enhancements
Integrated Performance Control
Multi-workspace
Color-changeable, 3D depth Phase Beam
And a bunch more
We're also pushing non-Android stuff, such as OmniInstaller (an all-in-one, multi-platform, open source, installer that anyone can plug in), as well as a Qt library to give Qt Android apps a native Android look, and have gorgeous and super-fast Android apps. We're helping users, and helping developers.
Everything is free, free as in money, and free as in liberty. And transparent.
Edit #1: Regarding device support, we currently support all the Nexus devices, as well as the Oppo Find 5, Xperia Z, Xperia Tablet Z. We have preliminary support for the i9300 as well as the Oppo R819.
Edit #2: We'll have a bunch of developer resouces up soon, giving a head start to newcomers in the Android development world.
I probably didn't cover much things but I'll add more things as they come to my mind. We're having beers here and I'm probably not fully able to do a comprehensive post right now.
Have some screenshots:
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NIce! Does that "multiwindow" works flawlessly?without breaking apps?
I'm overjoyed to see you guys bounce back after the Inc debacle.
Looking forward to compiling, testing and enjoying Omni.
Are you guys going to kang features from other ROMs (Halo and Pie from PA for example) or will all features be developed in-house?
Also, on which Android-version are the first builds based? I guess 4.3.1?
Since the annoucement of Cyanogen to be a corporation, I was searching for a new AOSP-based ROM for my daily needs, and I think I found it. Good luck guys!
I m dying to try this rom.
Would it be possible to port it using cyanogenmod or aosp as base?
chasmodo said:
I'm overjoyed to see you guys bounce back after the Inc debacle.
Looking forward to compiling, testing and enjoying Omni.
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Me, two©. Joli coup @XpLoDWilD @Entropy512 and everyone else involved, wishing you all the best with Omni. Nice to see espenfjo back on track as well.
#free^3
They say all nexuses are supported , then where is galaxy nexus support huh ? If there will be not official support , how can I develop a unofficial version of OMNIr for gnex ?
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NIce! Does that "multiwindow" works flawlessly?without breaking apps?
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It will do pretty much. We'll get sources up very very soon (ie. minutes), and gerrit is already live where you can see the MultiWindow patch being reviewed and improved.
SGWUser said:
Are you guys going to kang features from other ROMs (Halo and Pie from PA for example) or will all features be developed in-house?
Also, on which Android-version are the first builds based? I guess 4.3.1?
Since the annoucement of Cyanogen to be a corporation, I was searching for a new AOSP-based ROM for my daily needs, and I think I found it. Good luck guys!
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In the spirit of open source, if there's something that gives positive improvement on the user experience, and it can be introduced, and people want it, it will be included. There's a balance between "settings inception" (ie. a toggle for your toggle, to toggle text alignment of the clock) and something that isn't customisable, but that will be open to much wider discussion and consultation.
4.3.1 is the current version in use, yes.
Halo and Pie are 2 specific examples, but this is where the community comes in - porting these features should be fairly straightforward. We like to try improve things too where possible
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I m dying to try this rom.
Would it be possible to port it using cyanogenmod or aosp as base?
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The ROM is based on AOSP, and full sources will be posted today, meaning you can try to build it for yourself. Be aware though, not all chipsets are currently supported - nexus devices will have more luck than other devices for now, but that will obviously change in the coming days and weeks.
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They say all nexuses are supported , then where is galaxy nexus support huh ?
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I don't believe anyone has one here for testing, hence it has not been listed yet. it WILL be supported, but until it's been tested, it won't go onto the list
Have the additional selinux commits CM started picking a few months ago been picked here also? If so, would make getting a build up for the Sprint and Verizon GNote 2 much easier Now it's just a waiting game for source to drop.
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Have the additional selinux commits CM picked a few months ago been picked here also? By that I mean the 2nd commit from the top to the next page https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_frameworks_base/commits/cm-10.2?page=15 If so, would make getting a build up for the Sprint and Verizon GNote 2 much easier Now it's a waiting game for source to drop.
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We've not focused yet that much on SELinux, as generally we believe that features like this should be introduced once the tree is stable enough.
There's still work needing done for SoCs (like Exynos!), but once we have the ground work covered, make no mistake, SELinux will be in and securing. Until then though, it will not be a number 1 priority (not to say nobody can go fix it!) - that's the glory of open source
Hurray!
a small query,do you plan to include support for legacy devices?(for example, the video encoding/decoding patches for msm7x27/7x27a)?
Currently,no roms support this by default.
Great News.
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We've not focused yet that much on SELinux, as generally we believe that features like this should be introduced once the tree is stable enough.
There's still work needing done for SoCs (like Exynos!), but once we have the ground work covered, make no mistake, SELinux will be in and securing. Until then though, it will not be a number 1 priority (not to say nobody can go fix it!) - that's the glory of open source
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Makes sense. I use modified CM trees to build for PA which doesnt have that extra selinux stuff so building should still be pretty painless I hope. Last question, let's say I wanted to add PA Pie support in an aio patch or so, would I just push to gerrit and from there the core team and users vote on it? Considering its stable and working fine. How will that work? Thanks!
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NIce! Does that "multiwindow" works flawlessly?without breaking apps?
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Still work to be done. I just barely got it working on flo and pollux_windy before flying out to BABBQ.
What's the Roadrunner feature?
sakindia123 said:
a small query,do you plan to include support for legacy devices?(for example, the video encoding/decoding patches for msm7x27/7x27a)?
Currently,no roms support this by default.
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Yes, we intend to include legacy device support as a key feature. I'll go into this in more detail later, but this was one of our founding "aims".
Provided compatibility for legacy devices can be implemented "neatly" without impacting other devices, it's actively encouraged
Custom ROMs were meant to extend the useful lives of phones, not leave phones dangling without support
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What's the Roadrunner feature?
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Roadrunner was the "speculated" feature name for a previous version of Android where some people suggested that it would improve battery life, and add better power profiles and management.
Roadrunner was something Xplod is working on, but it aims to make it possible to easily and quickly bias your device's configuration for performance, or battery, or a balance between the two.
On a modern device with 4 cores, and 2.2 GHz CPU (or whatever), this is frankly excessive for simple tasks. OEMs usually excessively prioritise performance so their device feels "snappy", leaving battery performance poor.
Roadrunner lets you reduce "raw" speed, but gain better battery life.
pulser_g2 said:
Yes, we intend to include legacy device support as a key feature. I'll go into this in more detail later, but this was one of our founding "aims".
Provided compatibility for legacy devices can be implemented "neatly" without impacting other devices, it's actively encouraged
Custom ROMs were meant to extend the useful lives of phones, not leave phones dangling without support
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I will try to get @PecanCM involved, as well as the members from androidarmv6. They'll have a few patches to push up
Because we use different sets of qcom hardware sources, can I ask for them to be able to be fetched from different github users/organisations, just to keep the source code tidier?
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Hello everyone,
Over the last three or so years I have made my way through a lot of phones, always in-search of the 'perfect' one.
I've settled on the Nexus range because I love stock Android and have found the hardware to be acceptable.
For my next foray into a 2013 phone I'm thinking of getting the HTC One and pairing this with Cyanogenmod, when it becomes available.
This to me would be the best physical hardware, in both appearance and materials of any Android device, and software.
Something akin to this!
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So the reason for this thread is to gain input from those who have used both Stock and Cyanogenmod.
Am I going to be satisfied with the move?
Visually things are the same? The use the same assets?
What problems could arise? What should I be aware of when compared with Stock?
Any other thoughts or opinions you may have. Please keep it in-line with the HTC One and Cyanogenmod.
Many thanks.
Off-topic but when I look at that Black picture I find it sooo cool.
CyanogenMod will most likely come to the device. I don't see why it wouldn't. It'll also look just like CyanogenMod on your Nexus devices. But you can be assured that it won't come easily. It'll be harder to build than a nexus device, and early builds are likely to have bugs that will need to be worked out
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CyanogenMod will most likely come to the device. I don't see why it wouldn't. It'll also look just like CyanogenMod on your Nexus devices. But you can be assured that it won't come easily. It'll be harder to build than a nexus device, and early builds are likely to have bugs that will need to be worked out
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I've never rooted a device to put any ROM other than an update to Stock. I guess what I'd like to know is what the differences are between stock and Cyanogenmod. If the experience of using them is nearly 90% the same, then I'll be happy. If it's further away than that, I'll have to force myself to wait for the Nexus 5 and hope it brings some premium materials.
Re: blingfeed annoying
Is it worth it. I love it but even on the one x was frustrating due to not being able to use the camera to it's full potential.it would fly on here but you'd lose a lot on this device. Which would be a shame
(No doubt if be trying it still if it was here though and get frustrated again lol)
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Over the last three or so years I have made my way through a lot of phones, always in-search of the 'perfect' one
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I had the last 'perfect one' - the legendary HTC HD2 - since it came out.
I dropped the first one I owned and almost sold the insurance replacement to buy a different phone.
I was tempted many times by the hypegasm of new fangled phones but, really, what were they adding that the venerable HD2 couldn't already do? Nothing really.
Glad I made the choices I did.
Wait and see, all these answers can be answered by yourself ...
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I've never rooted a device to put any ROM other than an update to Stock. I guess what I'd like to know is what the differences are between stock and Cyanogenmod. If the experience of using them is nearly 90% the same, then I'll be happy. If it's further away than that, I'll have to force myself to wait for the Nexus 5 and hope it brings some premium materials.
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By default, it is basically identical, with a few improvements (T9 dialing).
However, there are many options to customise it - adding different shortcuts to the lockscreen ring (up to five, I think), quick-toggles in the notification shade, "quiet hours" (a setting which silences your phone during certain times of the week)..
The list is exhaustive.
CyanogenMod is much better than stock, imo, notification toggles are much better (and less complicated) than the quick-settings panel.
i wouldn't buy this device based on getting CM10. i think it's going to be quite awhile for both this phone and the s4. if you want a pure Google experience id look into the n4 or wait and see if the n5 is going to be announced at google io in may.
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i wouldn't buy this device based on getting CM10. i think it's going to be quite awhile for both this phone and the s4. if you want a pure Google experience id look into the n4 or wait and see if the n5 is going to be announced at google io in may.
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Already have the Nexus 4. Mainly interested in the external hardware look and feel of the One, it's the Android equivalent of the iPhone 5 . I doubt Google will announce a new Nexus device at I/O, but I could be wrong.
I'm looking for opinions of those who've used both Stock and Cyanogenmod extensively. What they like and don't like.
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Already have the Nexus 4. Mainly interested in the external hardware look and feel of the One, it's the Android equivalent of the iPhone 5 . I doubt Google will announce a new Nexus device at I/O, but I could be wrong.
I'm looking for opinions of those who've used both Stock and Cyanogenmod extensively. What they like and don't like.
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im hearing the n5 will be announced at google io.
What is this cyanidemod? Please be happy to tell me.
Suqmadiq said:
What is this cyanidemod? Please be happy to tell me.
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Stock Android without custom skins like Sense and TouchWiz: Wiki
Edit, Its not cyanidemod, its cyanogenmod
AW: HTC One and Cyanogenmod
NiCk.JaY said:
Stock Android without custom skins like Sense and TouchWiz: Wiki
Edit, Its not cyanidemod, its cyanogenmod
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It's not Stock Android. There are a few modifications! For example the quick toggles.
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I didn't read the question properly lol. Mate if your a fan of pure android stick with the nexus.I love both so I'm okay. But pure...there's a lot to be said for how quick everything runs. Though I wouldn't pass on the one.
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Thing is, stock rom (Sense) tend to have better battery life than CM10. Stock roms (Sense) are more optimised for the system. I've noticed this since my battery was a lot less when I had the S2, S3, HTC One X etc using CM10.
I also feel this may get a quicker/less buggy release than the S4 with exynos 5. I imagine samsung wont release any info for the exynos 5 like they havent for the exynos 4. The S600 variants will probably be fine but that may give the One an advantage.
it makes no sense to buy a HTC One or any phone for that matter to just put stock android on it.. you lose half the features the phone came with (even if their are gimmick or not)
You should just buy a Nexus device.. because in the end thats all you trying to get..
You are buying the HTC One for design.. not for its features..
The processors wouldn't be any difference in notice.. unless you plan on running HD 1080P videos every second of the day and playing games like "Dead trigger, Real Racing etc every day"
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It's not Stock Android. There are a few modifications! For example the quick toggles.
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That was just to explain the basics of cm to him
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The main difference between stock android and cyanogenmod are featured n options. There are a lot more settings, n tweaks and ways to persoalize it the way you want. There are also variations of CM like aokp, paranoidandroid,etc which add even more options and customizations. Also there will be sense roms with things added/removed l, etc that you may like. The great thing about Roms is that you can change the whole look ans feel of your phone within minutes. Best thing for you to do is go over to like the HTC EVO 4g LTE forum or the HTC ONE X forum and look thru the android and original android development sections at all the toms and get an idea what is out there. Any aosp rom would be cm like stock android and any sense is just that tweaked stock sense.
Cyanogen goes from from Android mod to legit startup with $7M from Benchmark
http://venturebeat.com/2013/09/18/c...-mod-to-legit-startup-with-7m-from-benchmark/
Hopefully we see good things in the foreseeable future, gotta love what CM has done for all of us :thumbup:
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This guy is a legend.
Good luck to Steve... I would be willing to at least try out a Cyanogen OS phone.
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Even though I do not use CM.
I wish them the BEST!!!
I hope they become 2nd. Not 3rd
Because....
"Apples are meant for eating...period."
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Cyanogenmod was the first rom i ever flashed. Seeing it grow up kinda brings a tear to my eye :crying: . Best of luck Steve im sure it will be popular!
Does anyone else realize how nuts this is? I mean, from a back door, unlicensed, hackers, weekend project to a full fledged entity that directly competes against big name software. All for free. This is amazing and can only get better congrats to them and the whole android hacker community!
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Did anybody actually read the article?
Am I the only one confused about the CM installer off Google Play? Wut
Can anybody explain how non rooted users can switch to CM via an app from the Play Store?
Here is the full blog by the guy himself.
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/a_new_chapter
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sauprankul said:
Did anybody actually read the article?
Am I the only one confused about the CM installer off Google Play? Wut
Can anybody explain how non rooted users can switch to CM via an app from the Play Store?
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I'm pretty sure the CM installer will require root, I mean there are plenty of apps that requires root on the PlayStore.
I'm curious of how they will eventually monetize this. $7mil is no small investment, the invester will expect a return? I'm pretty sure if cm came shipped with a phone it might be without root. If you followed Steve K on plus he posted a question about the reasons why users want root and he said it was possible to achieve most of it without root with coding and thus will provide a more secure environment.
I thought this was funny
https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/Y1NNyPMMVfN
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I'm pretty sure the CM installer will require root, I mean there are plenty of apps that requires root on the PlayStore.
I'm curious of how they will eventually monetize this. $7mil is no small investment, the invester will expect a return? I'm pretty sure if cm came shipped with a phone it might be without root. If you followed Steve K on plus he posted a question about the reasons why users want root and he said it was possible to achieve most of it without root with coding and thus will provide a more secure environment.
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If it does require root, what exactly is the point? I'm sure most people who go through the trouble of rooting their devices have at least heard of CM, if not used it. This really won't "expand the user base" or whatever unless it can painlessly root your phone from stock. Which I'm pretty sure it can't do. Plus, He also writes about how the rooting process is "gruesome" and he thinks it is unnecessary. Maybe he has/will figure out a way to get CM on our phones without root? He said next few weeks, so... let's see.
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If it does require root, what exactly is the point? I'm sure most people who go through the trouble of rooting their devices have at least heard of CM, if not used it. This really won't "expand the user base" or whatever unless it can painlessly root your phone from stock. Which I'm pretty sure it can't do. Plus, He also writes about how the rooting process is "gruesome" and he thinks it is unnecessary. Maybe he has/will figure out a way to get CM on our phones without root? He said next few weeks, so... let's see.
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I meant that their goal would be to have a partnership with oems and have devices that comes with cm pre-installed so there would be no need for root it might just update thru the stock recovery just the same as a regular ota would be. Well everything is just speculation but from the looks of focal then voice+ there is going to be so many good things to come. A revamp theme engine that rivals miui maybe.
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I meant that their goal would be to have a partnership with oems and have devices that comes with cm pre-installed so there would be no need for root it might just update thru the stock recovery just the same as a regular ota would be. Well everything is just speculation but from the looks of focal then voice+ there is going to be so many good things to come. A revamp theme engine that rivals miui maybe.
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If I were a multi billion dollar company, I wouldn't exactly want to outsource my OS development to a small hacking startup.
It would be cool, but I think it's not possible right now, at least, not with mainstream OEMs.
Oppo? Probably. Samsung HTC Sony etc? Prolly not.
And he specifically mentioned the installer right after the "rooting is gruesome" thing. I think that's a good clue.
EDIT: Maybe something like a "CM edition" will work, just like GPe?
Also, did anyone notice the iPhones in
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Although I don't typically use it as a stand-alone ROM, most of the ROMs I build and like best are based in CM. They have a great team and embody everything about open-source that users, devs and aspiring devs want to emulate. I think it's high time they receive the recognition they deserve and a top spot in the Android and mobile OS forum. Best of luck, guys!
Started from the bottom now he here! Congrats to Steve and the whole CM team. Reminiscing about the CM6 days to where CM is now always brings a tear to my eyes. Lol.
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If I were a multi billion dollar company, I wouldn't exactly want to outsource my OS development to a small hacking startup.
It would be cool, but I think it's not possible right now, at least, not with mainstream OEMs.
Oppo? Probably. Samsung HTC Sony etc? Prolly not.
And he specifically mentioned the installer right after the "rooting is gruesome" thing. I think that's a good clue.
EDIT: Maybe something like a "CM edition" will work, just like GPe?
Also, did anyone notice the iPhones in
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I noticed all the iDevices and was very intrigued by it. CM on iOS devices? That's something I can get excited about.
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"The firm's first announced step is to improve the process of installing the software on owner's devices, which Kondik described as "hideous". A new installer app is planned to be released "in the coming weeks" on Google Play. The installer app will not require rooting the device, instead installing by simply clicking a button."
http://en.m.wikinews.org/wiki/CyanogenMod:_Open-source_smartphone_OS_goes_commercial?dpl_id=785316
If that's true, the CM will be an instant hit.
I wonder if this will void warranty since you basically just installed an app. Also, I know I'll be laughed at, but will not having root fix the frequency lock issue?
my main question when i install CM in the future will it be a close to stock android experience that we all know and love or are they looking to do something like amazon(just not terrible) and use android as a base
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my main question when i install CM in the future will it be a close to stock android experience that we all know and love or are they looking to do something like amazon(just not terrible) and use android as a base
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dude. C'mon.
Really?
C'mon.
The whole point of CM is to get closer to the stock experience. It's just that now, overlays like TW and Sense don't suck. CM is upping their ante to compete with these guys (Hence the project name Nemesis). They are introducing features like CM accounts and focal, which don't detract from the experience.
It would be suicide for CM to completely run away with Android like that.
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If that's true, the CM will be an instant hit.
I wonder if this will void warranty since you basically just installed an app. Also, I know I'll be laughed at, but will not having root fix the frequency lock issue?
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Looks like the installer will only work on unlocked *bootloader unlocked* and developer editions, they are hoping more manufacturers will eventually offer offical unlock, similar to HTC dev unlock I am thinking. So it isn't going to magically install CM on any device.
CyanogenMod will have its own installer app “in the coming weeks” which will be available in the Play Store. Initially the app will not install CyanogenMod on devices for which unofficial exploits were used to unlock their bootloaders. Steve Kondik (cyanogen himself if you didn’t already know) had this to say about the installer app:
The first release of the installer won’t support devices that require exploits. The long-term goal is to open up OEMs to the possibility of supporting us officially- there’s zero technical reason for these measures and the best way to fix it is to not buy these devices and speak your mind.
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It’s more important to me to work with OEMs on changing policy than developing exploits, though. And we’ll do that by creating great stuff that people want to use.
The app should work seamlessly on your Nexus device, your Developer Edition device or your device for which an official bootloader unlock is available.
Also some interesting read on focal https://plus.google.com/106978520009932034644/posts/L8FJkrcahPs
Dear Developers of AOKP,
first of all: Thank you so much for this awesome ROM which I am using since 3 years by now! Since security has been in the media periodically for quite some time now, I feel like this is the right time to ask: Would you please harden AOKP to include the very latest security enhancements? What bothers me in particular is that it seems even though so much development is being done, vulnerabilities like Mempodroid still seem to be present in the latest builds (using AOKP 4.4.2 for M7UL). A good way to check this is to use the X-RAY Security Scanner. Please fix these vulnerabilities.
Furthermore, would you please implement a feature to toggle hardening like triggered with the app SecDroid? This neat little project unfortunately has been abandoned, but yet the idea should be clear. The developer of SecDroid also released a Guide on how to harden Android. Maybe AOKP can use the Source of SecDroid somehow?
For me, AOKP always will be the best ROM out there. I can proudly say that having donated to the project makes me feel great and I'm looking foward to see AOKP implementing the latest and greatest security enhancements out there. Thank you ahead!
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Dear Developers of AOKP,
first of all: Thank you so much for this awesome ROM which I am using since 3 years by now! Since security has been in the media periodically for quite some time now, I feel like this is the right time to ask: Would you please harden AOKP to include the very latest security enhancements? What bothers me in particular is that it seems even though so much development is being done, vulnerabilities like Mempodroid still seem to be present in the latest builds (using AOKP 4.4.2 for M7UL). A good way to check this is to use the X-RAY Security Scanner. Please fix these vulnerabilities.
Furthermore, would you please implement a feature to toggle hardening like triggered with the app SecDroid? This neat little project unfortunately has been abandoned, but yet the idea should be clear. The developer of SecDroid also released a Guide on how to harden Android. Maybe AOKP can use the Source of SecDroid somehow?
For me, AOKP always will be the best ROM out there. I can proudly say that having donated to the project makes me feel great and I'm looking foward to see AOKP implementing the latest and greatest security enhancements out there. Thank you ahead!
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A few of us are interested in this and we'll see what can be done
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A few of us are interested in this and we'll see what can be done
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Awesome! What are you planning to do?
SecUpwN said:
Dear Developers of AOKP,
first of all: Thank you so much for this awesome ROM which I am using since 3 years by now! Since security has been in the media periodically for quite some time now, I feel like this is the right time to ask: Would you please harden AOKP to include the very latest security enhancements? What bothers me in particular is that it seems even though so much development is being done, vulnerabilities like Mempodroid still seem to be present in the latest builds (using AOKP 4.4.2 for M7UL). A good way to check this is to use the X-RAY Security Scanner. Please fix these vulnerabilities.
Furthermore, would you please implement a feature to toggle hardening like triggered with the app SecDroid? This neat little project unfortunately has been abandoned, but yet the idea should be clear. The developer of SecDroid also released a Guide on how to harden Android. Maybe AOKP can use the Source of SecDroid somehow?
For me, AOKP always will be the best ROM out there. I can proudly say that having donated to the project makes me feel great and I'm looking foward to see AOKP implementing the latest and greatest security enhancements out there. Thank you ahead!
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Even if every vulnerability fix was included in source, (for now) it will still not be secured. Unless you compile your own builds with a different platform key, your builds will not be secure. This applies to nearly every AOSP-based custom ROM.
We've talked about it, and we might implement something for milestone releases. But security is a huge huge problem to take on with custom ROMs and there are a lot of heads to the dragon to take down
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We've talked about it, and we might implement something for milestone releases. But security is a huge huge problem to take on with custom ROMs and there are a lot of heads to the dragon to take down.
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True point. But I'm sure that folks who can add unicorn sparkles to a ROM will even discover and implement some really cool security enhancements & fixes for the already known vulnerabilities. After all, this is a suggestion and to be seen without pressure. Waiting for your next awesome release for M7UL, @Romanbb! You're doing a great job!
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True point. But I'm sure that folks who can add unicorn sparkles to a ROM will even discover and implement some really cool security enhancements & fixes for vulnerabilities. After all, this is a suggestion and to be seen without pressure. Waiting for your next awesome release for M7UL, @Romanbb!
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For sure. I'm definitely not against security enhancements by any measure.
Why isn't it possible to create a tool that can repackage ROMs with custom keys, say, using a Windows computer or Xposed Framework?
Also, isn't Mempodroid what allows us to give apps SU permission?
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Also, isn't Mempodroid what allows us to give apps SU permission?
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No. Mempodroid is an EXPLOIT and a vulnerability, please don't mistaken it with SuperSU.
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please don't mistaken it with SuperSU.
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Okay. Just so long as you don't *mistake* 'SU' with SuperSU=)
AOKP Kitkat Rom
The Android Open Kang Project (AOKP) team has released nightly builds for a number of Android running device which bring Android 4.4.2 KitKat update for these devices. One such build is also available for Sony Xperia Z, which runs Android 4.3 Jelly Bean.
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The Android Open Kang Project (AOKP) team has released nightly builds for a number of Android running device which bring Android 4.4.2 KitKat update for these devices.
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As you might have guessed, AOKP runs through all my veins. I'd probebly never use anything else, if not forced to. As soon as a new nightly is out, I'm using it. But what exactly is the AOKP team doing to make their build more secure?
One of the features that I'd LOVE to have would be encrypted calls between AOKP builds without having to be online or installing additional software. Would such be possible somehow?
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@kennyglass123, thanks for cleaning it up. I really appreciate your effort. Unfortunately though, no member of the AOKP team has answered my initial question yet. Could someone please do so?
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As you might have guessed, AOKP runs through all my veins. I'd probebly never use anything else, if not forced to. As soon as a new nightly is out, I'm using it. But what exactly is the AOKP team doing to make their build more secure?
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Sadly, this question is still open. Since I'm using M7 (Gerneric GSM), maybe @Whitehawkx can answer this?
Hello everyone,
I am creating this thread on behalf of @RaymanFX , a recognized developer who needs a device(Galaxy Note 4 Exynos) to develop for us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3463426
https://github.com/raymanfx
He is looking to develop for Note 4 Exynos (All Variants N910C N910U N910H etc), and is looking to make Cyanogenmod 12 roms and kernels for us. He is an recognized developer here at XDA http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3463426
He is very committed to getting this device and developing for us so let's get him this device. He needs at least 639 Euros to buy the device, so please consider donating any value , even 1 dollar for an debugging/dev device he can work on. He had succeeded to port Cyanogenmod 12 to Galaxy note 10 2014 Exynos Tablet as seen here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/general/android-5-0-offical-cm-support-t2938652
Let us join together and help this project.
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FUCTIONS TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN CM12 NOTE 4 EXYNOS RaymanFX ROM (SEE PICTURES BELOW OF RAYMANFX EMAILS)
1. Spen functions (button hold to select text, write, palm rejection) -Already Implemented in CM12 by Raymanfx
2. Samsung Apps (to be implemented)
3. Exynos 5433 64 bits Support(to be implemented)
Follow Development Progress:
https://github.com/RaymanFX/device_samsung_trelte
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2. Fill in any required info.
4. Pm your transaction number or screenshot of your receipt to calj17 deleted or post the Transaction screenshot here in the thread
Why is nobody answering to this thread ??
Donate via PayPal to get Cyanogenmod 12 on our devices
Very sad I expected everyone answering here. Come on guys let us join to raise fund and buy 1 unit of note 4 n910c. Costs 750 usd at ebay or Amazon.
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because nobody cares to donate to some guy who may or may not port some crappy rom to our note 4s.
seriously who cares about cyanogenmod ? lollipop vanilla is far better and supported.
also you lose most of the notes functionality by rooting. knox goes, your dual personality phone becomes a single personality phone, you lose warranty permanently and you dont gain anything which you would not have already.
go buy a nexus 6 if you want a rooted/cyanogenmodded phone.
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because nobody cares to donate to some guy who may or may not port some crappy rom to our note 4s.
seriously who cares about cyanogenmod ? lollipop vanilla is far better and supported.
also you lose most of the notes functionality by rooting. knox goes, your dual personality phone becomes a single personality phone, you lose warranty permanently and you dont gain anything which you would not have already.
go buy a nexus 6 if you want a rooted/cyanogenmodded phone.
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I don't agree cyanogenmod is a crap. Has a lot of fans out there and bring us the latest android build always. You are being rude with your words. If you are not interested just leave the thread
Would it work on the SM-N910U variant??? If yes, where do I donate ??
another thread ?
why you make another thread to discuss same thing..
I notice you are also OP of this thread
What makes me don't like CM is it's rarely made it through the stable build for past device I use. I'm definitely don't want to use experimental ROM in my precious device. Just my opinion.
Donate via PayPal to get Cyanogenmod 12 on our devices
I will invite the developer to join the thread. His build is Very good for the note 10.1 2014 exynos and if he build for note 4 will also be very nice
I'm willing to help with something like 20$ but the Note was expensive as it was. I agree with people that AOSP > CM though.
Also, be careful, I'm pretty sure paid ROMs/kernels/etc are banned on xda and this might be considered as such.
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I'm willing to help with something like 20$ but the Note was expensive as it was. I agree with people that AOSP > CM though.
Also, be careful, I'm pretty sure paid ROMs/kernels/etc are banned on xda and this might be considered as such.
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I want to donate 20 too. In this case we are not paying the rom. We are buying 1 developer unit of the note 4 só that he can work
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eydryan said:
I'm willing to help with something like 20$ but the Note was expensive as it was. I agree with people that AOSP > CM though.
Also, be careful, I'm pretty sure paid ROMs/kernels/etc are banned on xda and this might be considered as such.
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I want to donate 20 too. In this case we are not paying the rom. We are buying 1 developer unit of the note 4 só that he can work
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Hey, so I thought I'd join in here as well.
What calj17 said is actually true. What you are 'paying' for is not my work, nor anything I craft/code, but rather the tool for me to do my work. I am providing development for free of course, it's just that I'm a university student and obviously cannot afford to buy a Galaxy Note 4 myself.
I'm not asking for donations either. I was asked by people to work on Exynos based devices since there's little to no development activity going on for these. I can tell that by now, my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 (Exynos5420) runs stable enough to be considered a daily driver, with basic S-Pen features working (palm rejection, special pen buttons, etc.), so I'm convinced I could do the same on the Galaxy Note 4.
However, there are people that still like Touchwiz better for its superior features (especially S-Pen specific ones) that a custom ROM will never be able to achieve and I don't blame these people. I myself (obviously) prefer faster custom ROMs over a stock one, but to each their own is the correct agenda here I'd say.
It's just up to the decision if there are enough people in this community who think alike and would be willing do donate a few pennies. Here's the donation thread of the Galaxy Note 10.1 by the way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/general/android-5-0-offical-cm-support-t2938652.
You can see it was successful and it all went along pretty well. The community got exactly what it donated for (a usable CM-12.0 build) and I'm still working on the device every day (my recent contributions include making the aosp exynos5 drivers (used by the Nexus 10) fully usable on non-aosp devices - commits are here: http://review.teameos.org/#/q/status:merged).
Again, it's up to this community.
I'm in no urge to do anything on the Note 4. But I like what I do and I consider developing on android a healthy hobby for my university classes, so I will happily aid people to be able to run whatever they want on their devices if I am given the device to work on. Of course, You could get whatever ROM you want with a solid base. If people rather wish for a stable AOSP ROM instead of CM; no problem. From there on, other people can take the device bits and easily build AOKP/Slim/Omni/whatever you have in mind
EDIT: like the Galaxy Note 10.1 thread, I think this one rather belongs in the general section instead of Q&A.
Happy new year for all. I would like each one here to mention how much is going to donate so that we Will know who will donate and the amount of money left to be reached. I begin will donate 20 usd. Who else?
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Happy new year for all. I would like each one here to mention how much is going to donate so that we Will know who will donate and the amount of money left to be reached. I begin will donate 20 usd. Who else?
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I would donate 50USD,
If the developer could set up an "indiegogo", we would know how much is left,
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I would donate 50USD,
If the developer could set up an "indiegogo", we would know how much is left,
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760 dollars with free Shipping at amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00PB...ref=plSrch&dpPl=1&dpID=51iqsMnrz7L&ref=plSrch
If each one donated 20 usd we needed 38 users
I am also posting at Facebook note 4 comunities and Google plus asking more People to join the thread. Help of all here is apreciated to share the idea with other users
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Would it work on the SM-N910U variant??? If yes, where do I donate ??
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The N910U uses Intel XMM7260 modem, and the N910C uses Ericsson Thor M7450. Only difference between those two models is the modem.
Cellular and mobile data might not work, but someone might make an port for N910U, since the hardware is quite similar.
You should wait until the S6 as the platform will be more common and chances of somebody caring to port AOSP will grow.
At this point lollipop is just a few weeks away on stock.
Just my opinion.
The question is not Just getting lollipop. Is using pure android with the fast performance and lag free UI. Have a second option of rom free of bloatware and runing always the Last android build. At some point samsung will stop releasing new updates for note 4 exynos and we get stuck at the android version samsung want to offer us. Developers can GO on and offer us android 6.0, 7.0 etc as Google release them and we won't have to wait for samsung to release this for us
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Hey, so I thought I'd join in here as well.
What calj17 said is actually true. What you are 'paying' for is not my work, nor anything I craft/code, but rather the tool for me to do my work. I am providing development for free of course, it's just that I'm a university student and obviously cannot afford to buy a Galaxy Note 4 myself.
I'm not asking for donations either. I was asked by people to work on Exynos based devices since there's little to no development activity going on for these. I can tell that by now, my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 (Exynos5420) runs stable enough to be considered a daily driver, with basic S-Pen features working (palm rejection, special pen buttons, etc.), so I'm convinced I could do the same on the Galaxy Note 4.
However, there are people that still like Touchwiz better for its superior features (especially S-Pen specific ones) that a custom ROM will never be able to achieve and I don't blame these people. I myself (obviously) prefer faster custom ROMs over a stock one, but to each their own is the correct agenda here I'd say.
It's just up to the decision if there are enough people in this community who think alike and would be willing do donate a few pennies. Here's the donation thread of the Galaxy Note 10.1 by the way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/general/android-5-0-offical-cm-support-t2938652.
You can see it was successful and it all went along pretty well. The community got exactly what it donated for (a usable CM-12.0 build) and I'm still working on the device every day (my recent contributions include making the aosp exynos5 drivers (used by the Nexus 10) fully usable on non-aosp devices - commits are here: http://review.teameos.org/#/q/status:merged).
Again, it's up to this community.
I'm in no urge to do anything on the Note 4. But I like what I do and I consider developing on android a healthy hobby for my university classes, so I will happily aid people to be able to run whatever they want on their devices if I am given the device to work on. Of course, You could get whatever ROM you want with a solid base. If people rather wish for a stable AOSP ROM instead of CM; no problem. From there on, other people can take the device bits and easily build AOKP/Slim/Omni/whatever you have in mind
EDIT: like the Galaxy Note 10.1 thread, I think this one rather belongs in the general section instead of Q&A.
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Dear friend we want to know how to proceed with the donation. How much will be necessary to fund
Hi community!
There is a WIP (Work in Progress) ROM being mainly developed by @Rortiz2 and @diegocr: https://github.com/LOSMantis
Current ROM Status:
- Not Stable
Not Working:
- Sound
- OMX
- Maybe more...
Developers out there that would like to join development are welcome!...
Notice: This is a WIP ROM. It needs to be compile from the source (build steps could be adapted from the Nexus Player https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/fugu/build) if someone wants to try it out. Ready to flash builds would maybe be available when the ROM is more stable. Please do not ask for ETA, it is being developed in the spare time of the developers!
michael.santos said:
Hi community!
Anyone already seen this project on github: https://github.com/LOSMantis ?
It is a shame that this project are not being discussed here on XDA so more devs could help on this project...
Hope this post will "awake" some devs (maybe @Pretoriano80?) for this project...
This can be the project that will free our Fire TV Stick 4k from the crappy FireOS!
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'I believe @diegocr and @Rotiz2 were working on it some and couldn't get the sound to work. Not sure if actively though...
This can be the project that will free our Fire TV Stick 4k from the crappy FireOS!
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FireOS is very well maintained, even the oldest fireTVs/sticks getting still proper updates...
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FireOS is very well maintained, even the oldest fireTVs/sticks getting still proper updates...
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Yes, but full of bloatware, with some blocking mechanisms or black listed apps, no Google Play Store...
We are not allowed to change the home app easily, to use the standard Android settings without Amazon home app, not install already purchased apps on the Google Play Store and so on...
With root you can disable remove the "bloatware", although personally i dont think there is much i dont use. The fireOS TV is fairly smooth and easy to navigate. The android TV version is worse (IMO, I have a NVidea). You can disable the NIMH app, although i have yet to find any app it is blocking. The play store for androidTV is horrible. LauncherX is fairly easy to install. As with tank and sloan, i would expect issues with roms.
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Can you and other people (that did this aswell) stop creating threads like this?
We're working on mantis yes but this takes its time...
For now all is working except OMX and Audio so it's not worth to release anything.
We will create the ROM thread when it's enough usable.
Just wait...
Regards.
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Hi Rortiz2,
Why are you so mad about this thread? We did not ask for a working ROM or any release dates and we appreciate all your time and dedication to the project...
As I wrote in the subject, this is a WIP (Work in Progress) ROM... Have seen so many threads like this in other forums here on XDA where the ROM only boots but nothing works...
I have created this thread to allow other devs to join the project (if nobody talks about it, than nobody knows that a project already exists and can not help).
But if you would like to do this project alone, just tell me an I will delete this thread...
Best regards,
Michael
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I got really excited when I saw this thread. I cannot wait for stock Android for the Firestick 4K. I will 100% donate to the dev's who get this working!!
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It's ok, leave the thread here. If somebody wants to help there's no problem.
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Just throwing out an idea here but would getting some kind of test build out help? Perhaps getting some catlogs from the community could help find a solution? Again just throwing an idea out.
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Just throwing out an idea here but would getting some kind of test build out help? Perhaps getting some catlogs from the community could help find a solution? Again just throwing an idea out.
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+1 for a test build, I've got a bricked 4k that boots both the hacked bootloader and TWRP, but whatever image I install has no display...
So I would like to try anything else even if stuff is broken on it (just to see if I can get a display).
thx.
michael.santos said:
Hi community!
Anyone already seen this project on github: https://github.com/LOSMantis ?
It is a shame that this project are not being discussed here on XDA so more devs could help on this project...
Hope this post will "awake" some devs (maybe @Pretoriano80?) for this project...
This can be the project that will free our Fire TV Stick 4k from the crappy FireOS!
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It's at developer's discretion to discuss or release test builds here and considering that this particular rom still has some major bugs (call them deal breakers if you want), then i personally agree with the devs not releasing it yet.
Also, i didn't tested personally, but probably a custom rom like this may also break some features available on stock rom.
This being said, i'm sure that it will be released as soon as the guys behind it will consider it stable enough.
P. S. BTW, thread title is misleading and probably aldo violates XDA rules.
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It's at developer's discretion to discuss or release test builds here and considering that this particular rom still has some major bugs (call them deal breakers if you want), then i personally agree with the devs not releasing it yet.
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I totally understand and respect that. I did bring up having some kind of developer/user test build done just in case that could help further along getting said bugs fixed by getting catlogs that might help narrow down what is causing the issues. But if the devs feel that doing that would only slow things down (or even not help at all) then I respect that decision.
Also, i didn't tested personally, but probably a custom rom like this may also break some features available on stock rom.
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That's the nature of things when it comes to Lineage OS ROMs (and AOSP in general). Sometimes devs are able to get the ROMs to have nearly all the functionality of the device working... and sometimes not. But I generally prefer Lineage myself due to the overall experience being faster since LOS tends to not have all the bloat that stock ROMs sometimes have - especially Amazon devices which feel so bloated down with garbage I will never use.
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It's at developer's discretion to discuss or release test builds here and considering that this particular rom still has some major bugs (call them deal breakers if you want), then i personally agree with the devs not releasing it yet.
Also, i didn't tested personally, but probably a custom rom like this may also break some features available on stock rom.
This being said, i'm sure that it will be released as soon as the guys behind it will consider it stable enough.
P. S. BTW, thread title is misleading and probably aldo violates XDA rules.
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Hi Pretoriano80,
As I already replied to one of the devs, I never asked for a release date or ROM for flashing. The title also is marked as WIP (Work in Progress), that means that the ROM is in development and not ready for use...
I have seen that you already made a great job with the custom kernel. Thanks! Would you also like to help this project as it seems it also can use your kernel? Kernel dev with ROM devs would be the best team!
Thanks again to all devs that work hard for releasing new stuff for the Amazon devices...
How's the progress so far?
Looks like nothing much: https://github.com/LOSMantis/android_vendor_amazon_mantis
Too bad !!
dead project ?
I made a test build (with many warnings). Also I used the kernel from @Pretoriano80.
You can download it here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=324510
Please note that I couldn't test this out yet, so be careful of what you do. (Will try it out for myself soon)
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I made a test build (with many warnings). Also I used the kernel from @Pretoriano80.
You can download it here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=324510
Please note that I couldn't test this out yet, so be careful of what you do. (Will try it out for myself soon)
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it's not worth to test since it's a dead project, it would be more usefull to begin a new project developing LineageOS 16 rom , At least we will be able to use the new Android/Google TV UI.
robin994 said:
it's not worth to test since it's a dead project, it would be more usefull to begin a new project developing LineageOS 16 rom , At least we will be able to use the new Android/Google TV UI.
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LineageOS 16 won't ever be able to happen for the Mantis version because it doesn't support treble, the most it could do is LOS 14.1 since it's a legacy device.