Having bought a Moto X off eBay that's preloaded with an American Movil build, I'd like to upgrade that to something more current. Assuming I can figure out how to flash it in the first place - haven't had any luck getting a reply to this proposed flashing process yet - what build should I apply given that it's an XT1058 device intended to be used on AT&T's network. I can apply the AT&T ROM, of course, but that reportedly comes with bloatware.
And in an ideal world, I'd get my OTAs from someone other than the carrier; currently America Movil, maybe AT&T in future. Is it possible, for example, to apply the Developer's Edition ROM to an XT1058 device, and if so, would I be likely to be upgraded more quickly? If not, does anyone have any recommended builds that are compatible with AT&T's network that are better than the AT&T ROM?
sogrady said:
Having bought a Moto X off eBay that's preloaded with an American Movil build, I'd like to upgrade that to something more current. Assuming I can figure out how to flash it in the first place - haven't had any luck getting a reply to this proposed flashing process yet - what build should I apply given that it's an XT1058 device intended to be used on AT&T's network. I can apply the AT&T ROM, of course, but that reportedly comes with bloatware.
And in an ideal world, I'd get my OTAs from someone other than the carrier; currently America Movil, maybe AT&T in future. Is it possible, for example, to apply the Developer's Edition ROM to an XT1058 device, and if so, would I be likely to be upgraded more quickly? If not, does anyone have any recommended builds that are compatible with AT&T's network that are better than the AT&T ROM?
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I would suggest unlocking the boot loader, flashing either cwm or twrp recovery and finally flashing superuser. Keep in mind that unlocking the bootlaoder will void your warranty.
The benefit to this route is you will maintain root access, also you can easily flash Roms without the problems that cone along with pwnymymoto and safestrap.
Cm10.2 is around the corner and there's already a T-Mobile ROM that has the camera update included
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Is it possible, for example, to apply the Developer's Edition ROM to an XT1058 device?
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I would like an answer to this, if anyone knows.
I want to get a colored one through at&t, but I want the developer's edition rom with their OTAs. Kind of like how people are making their carrier HTC One's into google play editions.
aduane said:
I would like an answer to this, if anyone knows.
I want to get a colored one through at&t, but I want the developer's edition rom with their OTAs. Kind of like how people are making their carrier HTC One's into google play editions.
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don't think there is a dev edition rom to my knowledge. I haven't really read much about people saying the dev editions had anything different besides and unlockable bootloader which you don't have so you will only be able to flash roms through Safestrap if you haven't taken any OTA's yet.
While it should have been obvious, it's worth letting people know that the AT&T ROMs disable tethering. Again, most people probably know this, but coming from Nexus devices it hadn't even occurred to me. So if there is a dev edition ROM floating around out there where this isn't disabled by default, I'd love to see it.
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While it should have been obvious, it's worth letting people know that the AT&T ROMs disable tethering. Again, most people probably know this, but coming from Nexus devices it hadn't even occurred to me. So if there is a dev edition ROM floating around out there where this isn't disabled by default, I'd love to see it.
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There is a Dev Edition ROM and it is the exact same ROM as the T-Mobile ROM which is the only Retail ROM.
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Hey guys, I just purchased a Google Edition HTC One and I'm waiting to receive it from shipping. My question is can I flash ROMs from the HTC One international version? Im not exactly sure how the Google Edition is identified so I'm not sure if I'm suppose to be sticking to this forum section for international unlocked devices or AT&T version for instance.
I know that despite it is a Google Edition, if I recall correctly, it's just possibly an AT&T or T-Mobile variant. So I just wanted to know, if I am going to be flashing ROMs onto this Google Edition HTC One, which version of the phone I should be in for forum sections before I cause irreversible damage. I really want to get Paranoid Android or Revolt ROM onto it ASAP.
Thanks for any insight
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Hey guys, I just purchased a Google Edition HTC One and I'm waiting to receive it from shipping. My question is can I flash ROMs from the HTC One international version? Im not exactly sure how the Google Edition is identified so I'm not sure if I'm suppose to be sticking to this forum section for international unlocked devices or AT&T version for instance.
I know that despite it is a Google Edition, if I recall correctly, it's just possibly an AT&T or T-Mobile variant. So I just wanted to know, if I am going to be flashing ROMs onto this Google Edition HTC One, which version of the phone I should be in for forum sections before I cause irreversible damage. I really want to get Paranoid Android or Revolt ROM onto it ASAP.
Thanks for any insight
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Hope so!
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Hey guys, I just purchased a Google Edition HTC One and I'm waiting to receive it from shipping. My question is can I flash ROMs from the HTC One international version? Im not exactly sure how the Google Edition is identified so I'm not sure if I'm suppose to be sticking to this forum section for international unlocked devices or AT&T version for instance.
I know that despite it is a Google Edition, if I recall correctly, it's just possibly an AT&T or T-Mobile variant. So I just wanted to know, if I am going to be flashing ROMs onto this Google Edition HTC One, which version of the phone I should be in for forum sections before I cause irreversible damage. I really want to get Paranoid Android or Revolt ROM onto it ASAP.
Thanks for any insight
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So, this is the forum you want, go to original android dev in this forum, these roms are there but still waiting resources from google!!, if you are asking about sense roms, i think you will be able flash them once you achieve s-off and supercid
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So, this is the forum you want, go to original android dev in this forum, these roms are there but still waiting resources from google!!, if you are asking about sense roms, i think you will be able flash them once you achieve s-off and supercid
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Is there a reason why I must stay specifically in original android development? The ROM I'm eyeing is in the android development section. I'm not looking for any sense ROMs. I love the stock experience with the ability to change DPI's on my apps. That's it. Sorry if I'm not understanding it all right away, so I will be in HTC One forum but cannot jump into android development section just yet? I don't get what you mean by resources from google.
quick side note question, is the google edition bootloader unlocked?
Thanks for the quick responses
edit: i just realized Revolt ROM 4+, the one I'm looking to load, is in android original development. didn't mean to confuse anyone.
Anyone have answer to my earlier questions?
I wonder why anyone would want to buy a Google search edition phone but all you simply have to do is flash an appropriate ROM on the normal HTC One.
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To answer your question.. I'm sure you'll be able to flash any roms you would like...don't see a reason why not same hardware basically
You can flash roms from the international version make sure have the things that are required for the rom you like take a look around there's plenty already :laugh:
thanks.
I've had my xt1060 developer edition for a week now and have taken the 4.4 update. Before I go any further with this thing I'm trying to get a solid handle on upgrading and downgrading firmware...
- What I have gathered to date is that no phones with unlocked bootloaders can be downgraded without potentially bricking the phone, with the exception of the VZ 4.4 to 4.2.2 camera fix due to bootloader revision. Is this true even for the developer edition? Common sense tells me a developer phone should be able to run any version of stock firmware for "developer" purposes.
- In my reading I'm thinking there may be bootloader free flashable updates, e.g. android update 4.3 for the GS3. Is this true? As I can't seem to locate what I believe to be a stock firmware for the VZ edition.
- At this point with the released firmwares being pretty bare there really isn't a reason to want to downgrade but who knows what the future may hold, again look what Samsung and VZ did to us GS3 owners with the 4.3 release.
I'm thinking many of the issues posted are from people cross flashing firmware, avoiding doing this makes sense to me especially for an incremental upgrade.
I have to say that I feel information is inconsistent and hard to follow due to all of the different carrier and bootloaders. I assumed this phone would be similar to my old GNex when it came to flashing but it apparently is not nearly as forgiving.
Finally, am I missing any critical "must know" information?
Thanks
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I've had my xt1060 developer edition for a week now and have taken the 4.4 update. Before I go any further with this thing I'm trying to get a solid handle on upgrading and downgrading firmware...
- What I have gathered to date is that no phones with unlocked bootloaders can be downgraded without potentially bricking the phone, with the exception of the VZ 4.4 to 4.2.2 camera fix due to bootloader revision. Is this true even for the developer edition? Common sense tells me a developer phone should be able to run any version of stock firmware for "developer" purposes.
- In my reading I'm thinking there may be bootloader free flashable updates, e.g. android update 4.3 for the GS3. Is this true? As I can't seem to locate what I believe to be a stock firmware for the VZ edition.
- At this point with the released firmwares being pretty bare there really isn't a reason to want to downgrade but who knows what the future may hold, again look what Samsung and VZ did to us GS3 owners with the 4.3 release.
I'm thinking many of the issues posted are from people cross flashing firmware, avoiding doing this makes sense to me especially for an incremental upgrade.
I have to say that I feel information is inconsistent and hard to follow due to all of the different carrier and bootloaders. I assumed this phone would be similar to my old GNex when it came to flashing but it apparently is not nearly as forgiving.
Finally, am I missing any critical "must know" information?
Thanks
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Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366
All unlock boot loader motos are in the same boat, even DE variants
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flashallthetime said:
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366
All unlock boot loader motos are in the same boat, even DE variants
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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How'd I miss that!?
IDK
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I just bought a Moto X DE from Swappa to use on my T-Mobile and I have a couple of questions.
I'll be reading the forums so I'm sure I'll find many answers, but I know for some reason I'll just have a hard time finding some even if they are right in my face.
1) Is the 4.4.4 update out for it yet or so I need to unlock/recovery before I can get 4.4.4 I am only interested in AOSP/Google ROM's not CM, PA, or any of the others.
2) How, if at all is the DE ROM different? Or is it just the Bootloader being unlockable the only difference?
3) I am thinking of changing the White back out with a black one. I have seen the guide but my only worry is that the back may not be as tight after I do it due to having to release some of the glue. Will the back still be tight?
4) Anything else I may find interesting? Any Must know tips/tricks.
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I just bought a Moto X DE from Swappa to use on my T-Mobile and I have a couple of questions.
I'll be reading the forums so I'm sure I'll find many answers, but I know for some reason I'll just have a hard time finding some even if they are right in my face.
1) Is the 4.4.4 update out for it yet or so I need to unlock/recovery before I can get 4.4.4 I am only interested in AOSP/Google ROM's not CM, PA, or any of the others.
2) How, if at all is the DE ROM different? Or is it just the Bootloader being unlockable the only difference?
3) I am thinking of changing the White back out with a black one. I have seen the guide but my only worry is that the back may not be as tight after I do it due to having to release some of the glue. Will the back still be tight?
4) Anything else I may find interesting? Any Must know tips/tricks.
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I have the DE on VZW
1) i'm not sure, but I beleive its out for Tmobile. You should not need to unlock or do anythign else as long as the device has stock OS and boot-loader
2) the roms are not different other than being designed for slightly different devices, even the Verizon Droid lines share a very similar rom with the X. That being said, do not flash any rom that is not designed for your specific build (xt1058, My DE is xt1060) Also, once you take an OTA, this device does not like to be downgraded, even tho its a DE, its not a nexus that you can just flash any OS version to.
3) I have not replaced a back yet, i cant answer this, but i would be interested in your findings, as i may replace my back some day.
4) Moto did a great job with the software on this device, The stock rom is great. Xposed is all that is needed to bring the look and feel of a custom rom.
Thanks, the only changes I plan to make is Root + maybe flash a kernel and OC the CPU to 1.9/2GHz and play with the DPI settings.
One thing, yes you do have to unlock the bootloader on the moto site. ?
I dont think 4.4.4 is out for tmobile yet. I have the gsm dev edition, haven't gotten it yet nor have i heard/seen anything about it. But it will come soon I hope!
As far as i know the only difference is the unlockable bootloader, ROM is the same otherwise.
If you're planning to root, check out xposed and gravity box.. that combo makes this phone super customizable and you don't need any custom roms ever!
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I dont think 4.4.4 is out for tmobile yet. I have the gsm dev edition, haven't gotten it yet nor have i heard/seen anything about it. But it will come soon I hope!
As far as i know the only difference is the unlockable bootloader, ROM is the same otherwise.
If you're planning to root, check out xposed and gravity box.. that combo makes this phone super customizable and you don't need any custom roms ever!
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Just got the device, it has 4.4.3. So it looks like I'll root before I get any farther.
Hi guys,
Is there an option to flash Android One (Project Fi) to regular Moto x4?
Reef2009
Not now, but I really want it. Is very dificult to get a Moto X4 version Android One outside of USA... :crying:
No, but a guy in the custom roms thread was able to flash the retail Moto x4 ROM onto his Fi phone (as a last resort to recover his bricked device).
I really want this feature in moto... As I don't know the regular moto will get updates like Android one or not, as I know obviously the Android one get updates faster but the regular version will get same updates even if its late or if the Android one version will updated we can update the regular moto with root and custom recovery. Thanks in advance for your answers.
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or if the Android one version will updated we can update the regular moto with root and custom recovery. Thanks in advance for your answers.
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I don't think you'll ever be able to apply Android One Updates to a Retail model phone (even with root and/or custom recoveries). They are just too different in some basic /system features. In fact, right now; just rooting the phone screws up your ability to apply the updates for the Android One version TO the A1 phone. Even if you UNroot.
I just hope either the developers fix that or Motorola releases a true "factory image" that we can restore that will let us truly go "back to stock" (and begin receiving updates again). If Moto does that, you should be able to apply THAT to you Retail version (turning it into an A1 phone). That's your best hope.
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I don't think you'll ever be able to apply Android One Updates to a Retail model phone (even with root and/or custom recoveries). They are just too different in some basic /system features. In fact, right now; just rooting the phone screws up your ability to apply the updates for the Android One version TO the A1 phone. Even if you UNroot.
I just hope either the developers fix that or Motorola releases a true "factory image" that we can restore that will let us truly go "back to stock" (and begin receiving updates again). If Moto does that, you should be able to apply THAT to you Retail version (turning it into an A1 phone). That's your best hope.
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Thnks for you answer. One more question, do you think this device will get good development ???
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Thnks for you answer. One more question, do you think this device will get good development ???
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There's plenty of interest, but right now we've only got a couple of people working on it and mightysween seems pretty sharp. He's our best hope right now.
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There's plenty of interest, but right now we've only got a couple of people working on it and mightysween seems pretty sharp. He's our best hope right now.
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Yes you are right he is working hard for this device.
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There's plenty of interest, but right now we've only got a couple of people working on it and mightysween seems pretty sharp. He's our best hope right now.
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can we follow this person somewhere on social? is he here on xda forum? can you share a link to some of his work? just asking..
I am not understanding why one would buy a regular X4 if they wanted the Android One version.
Why not just buy the preferred version, initially?
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I am not understanding why one would buy a regular X4 if they wanted the Android One version.
Why not just buy the preferred version, initially?
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Because it's only available via project fi, in usa.
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Because it's only available via project fi, in usa.
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Can Fi be used, outside the USA?
it will be possible as soon as we get some working factory images from lenovo.. the phones aren't different at all
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pizza_pablo said:
Can Fi be used, outside the USA?
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ofc not but the phone works just fine with other carriers
pizza_pablo said:
I am not understanding why one would buy a regular X4 if they wanted the Android One version.
Why not just buy the preferred version, initially?
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Personally simply because out US there isn't the Android One version.
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Personally simply because out US there isn't the Android One version.
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So, what is the advantage of converting to an Android One version of Fi is not available?
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So, what is the advantage of converting to an Android One version of Fi is not available?
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The retailer one comes out full of annoying bloatwares. Actually I don't care about Fi Project, I just want have the cleanest UI possibile with only the strictly necessary. Oh, there are the security patches and os updates aspects too.
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I don't think you'll ever be able to apply Android One Updates to a Retail model phone (even with root and/or custom recoveries). They are just too different in some basic /system features. In fact, right now; just rooting the phone screws up your ability to apply the updates for the Android One version TO the A1 phone. Even if you UNroot.
I just hope either the developers fix that or Motorola releases a true "factory image" that we can restore that will let us truly go "back to stock" (and begin receiving updates again). If Moto does that, you should be able to apply THAT to you Retail version (turning it into an A1 phone). That's your best hope.
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This reminds me of older non-nexus phones- we would have to grab the OTA and use tools to construct the stock rom in a form that was flashable/modifiable. In the pre-lollipop? times, the patches were file based, so it was much easier to modify just specific files. The OTAs are now block based, so they just modify the atomic blocks that need changing, so you need an exact copy of the file system in order to apply the OTA.
Well, It appears we wont be able to flash the international ROM. I assume this means there are some kind of optimizations on the T-Mobile version that we wont get on the international.
This really is a shame, i'd like to have dual sim + faster updates. But i need better support for my carrier (T-mobile) as i have enough issues Signal issues and MMS not working over wifi on my 3t, while my other unlocked phones Motorala x4, Samsung s8+ work without issue.
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/steps-forward-oneplus-6t-and-t-mobile-partnership.933398/#post-19389653
Flashing the international ROM is not possible for the T-Mobile device. Other custom ROMs are possible, the T-Mobile OnePlus 6T has a specific modem signature that cannot be modified. - Kameron S.
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https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/steps-forward-oneplus-6t-and-t-mobile-partnership.933398/page-3#post-19397080
Kameron S, 22 minutes ago :
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I'm planning to buy the TMo version and trade my original OPO for the $300 credit. Pay it in full, wait 40 days and request SIM and boot unlock. Then go to the official or beta branches of the OxygenOS and receive all OTA directly. I hope this can be done.
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No Beta versions because the bootloader is initially locked, or no Beta versions at all ever on the t-mo version?
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Is this "specific modem signature" the optimizations for the T-Mobile network that have been mentioned? And what exactly are the optimizations?
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Thanks!
I reached out to a few staff members and got the answer that the TMO hardware will not be able to receive direct updates, this puts it out for Beta at this time.
The truly detailed optimizations I cannot speak to, I do know they went with a specific variant that works best with their network.
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We'll see about that.
If the best we end up after unlocking the bootloader are frankenstein firmwares, so be it. Or wait for the rumors of a 845-wide PBL exploit.
Give it some time. Any customizations, such as the T-mo modem, will be pulled and released. It shouldn't be too long before we can flash an international rom and the T-mo modem. I wish we could find out more about the other customizations, though. For all we know there are significant changes to system RPC or kernel
We won't know any of these specifics till we can root the tmo variant and start pulling things more system level things.. shouldn't be too long now tho just gotta wait on OnePlus to send out the unlock.bin files.
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Give it some time. Any customizations, such as the T-mo modem, will be pulled and released. It shouldn't be too long before we can flash an international rom and the T-mo modem. I wish we could find out more about the other customizations, though. For all we know there are significant changes to system RPC or kernel
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Looks like kameron was proved wrong
Please close this thread as it is incorrect and misinformed.
Guide to flashing international 5.0.5 located here;
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...lashing-t-mobile-oneplus-6t-to-t3865966/page2
As mentioned above, please use this thread to continue discussion.
Thread Closed.