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There's a lot of discussions and speculations that the T-Mobile version works on AT&T LTE. If someone is able to confirm this, please let us know. I like to get confirmation before going this route. I have until tomorrow to cancel my preorder with AT&T. Thanks much.
I dont believe there are T-units out there yet. We should start seeing them after the 2nd.
Im in your same boat.
FCC paper work on which bands it supports proves it will work with att bands. i pre-orderd my tmobile version from negri, it is unlocked and cheaper then store.
porkaysi said:
FCC paper work on which bands it supports proves it will work with att bands. i pre-orderd my tmobile version from negri, it is unlocked and cheaper then store.
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+1 ...... Soooooo ready!
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......
As some are getting the T-Mobile versions today, please help us validate if it works on AT&T LTE?
vince2398 said:
As some are getting the T-Mobile versions today, please help us validate if it works on AT&T LTE?
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Tmobile states a requirement of 40 days to sim unlock the phone, but can confirm that the TMobile version that I purchased from a corporate store today has a locked bootloader and doesn't provide any performance benefits over the ATT version that arrived in the mail for me today as well. They are only slightly faster than the international version [N900] and side by side data is slower than the Tab 3 7.0.
Hope this helps...
Bob
bob_beringer said:
Tmobile states a requirement of 40 days to sim unlock the phone, but can confirm that the TMobile version that I purchased from a corporate store today has a locked bootloader and doesn't provide any performance benefits over the ATT version that arrived in the mail for me today as well. They are only slightly faster than the international version [N900] and side by side data is slower than the Tab 3 7.0.
Hope this helps...
Bob
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You are the only one saying it has a locked bootloader...??? True or not.
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You are the only one saying it has a locked bootloader...??? True or not.
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The bootloader is unlocked.
Source: Pretty much everyone at the T-Mobile Note 3 forum.
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You are the only one saying it has a locked bootloader...??? True or not.
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BLUF: CF-AUTO-ROOT worked for me on the N900T, have both my N900 & N900T rooted, SIM unlocked from cellunlocker and working like a champ
For the answer to your question: see the attached two (2) images from the same phone, fact is that the information displayed in download mode for the 900T, is a bit flakey for the phone that I purchased from T-Mobile.
I have seen this information change on this device, more than 4 times, my other two N900* models don't have this issue and haven't demonstrated this behavior. In either case, I was able to make the device work on AT&T, but what I haven't seen happen is for my LTE speeds to work properly yet. I am using a N900A, N900T, N900, SM-T217A all side by side and each of the Note 3's are running less than 10mb, while the Tab 3 7.0 is running more than 55mb off the same tower from the same exact location. Seems like I need to find a way to force LTE 14, like the Tab 3 7.0 is using.
Other strange behavior is that the mobile networks menu didn't show all of the options that older ROM's offered, until after I swapped SIM's.
Hope this helps,
Bob
You have to force LTE, look on the ATT forum, there is a write up how to do it, even with then correct APN. It has been confirmed by several people.
unlocked boot loader and ATT LTE.
I said I would never spend 700$ on a phone again, but it looks like that's the route I'm taking. Not how to break the news to the wife....
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You have to force LTE, look on the ATT forum, there is a write up how to do it, even with then correct APN. It has been confirmed by several people.
unlocked boot loader and ATT LTE.
I said I would never spend 700$ on a phone again, but it looks like that's the route I'm taking. Not how to break the news to the wife....
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Yeah me too. I will not be bullied into locked bootloaders. I pay AT&T alot of money for this nonsense not to happen.
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I did the same. the T-Mobile is just perfect. Unlock SIM and Unlocked Bootloader. I haven't rooted yet waiting to decide I want to keep the Note 3.
I understand that the T-Mo version has its many advantages of having its unlocked bootloader, DEV support, SIM unlock, etc...
Price point aside, are there any major advantages/disadvantages between purchasing the T-Mo(N900T) or the Intl version (N9005)?
Every stat comparison seems to be similar, ROM support and all the freq bands are there.
Looking for some definitive answers from the community before spending big bucks on a new unit.
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I understand that the T-Mo version has its many advantages of having its unlocked bootloader, DEV support, SIM unlock, etc...
Price point aside, are there any major advantages/disadvantages between purchasing the T-Mo(N900T) or the Intl version (N9005)?
Every stat comparison seems to be similar, ROM support and all the freq bands are there.
Looking for some definitive answers from the community before spending big bucks on a new unit.
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You wont get LTE with the international version
barondebxl said:
You wont get LTE with the international version
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I must be missing something then. According to the description on NegriElectronics it shows one model (N9005) as a 32g LTE model?
Jayster0966 said:
I must be missing something then. According to the description on NegriElectronics it shows one model (N9005) as a 32g LTE model?
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Yes, check the 4G LTE bands
barondebxl said:
Yes, check the 4G LTE bands
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Got you. DUH Thanks for pointing that out. :silly:
Jayster0966 said:
I understand that the T-Mo version has its many advantages of having its unlocked bootloader, DEV support, SIM unlock, etc...
Price point aside, are there any major advantages/disadvantages between purchasing the T-Mo(N900T) or the Intl version (N9005)?
Every stat comparison seems to be similar, ROM support and all the freq bands are there.
Looking for some definitive answers from the community before spending big bucks on a new unit.
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TMO for me and working flawlessly.
Earthdog said:
TMO for me and working flawlessly.
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On my way to the T-MO store then. :fingers-crossed:
Just so I get this straight,
1. Purchase the N900T.
2. Purchase a $10 or $20 SIM card. (then insert it and use the phone) Required?
3. Bring it home and use the service on CellUnlocker.net
4. Wait for the unlock codes then ENJOY! (Change APN settings)
Optional;
Follow the rooting/recovery guides in the T-Mo thread.
If you buy the phone outright tmo will unlock it for you
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agent929 said:
If you buy the phone outright tmo will unlock it for you
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They do it after 45 days. Just asked a tmo corporate store today.
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Got you. DUH Thanks for pointing that out. :silly:
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Lol no worries. Just get the T-mobile version and you'll be just fine. I unlocked mine for cellunlocker.net ( well technically i havent unlocked it yet as i am waiting for my note 3 to be delivered but i got the unlock code ready to go).
I walked into a T-Mobile store day after they released the phone. Bought it full retail without purchasing a plan or a sim. Went home and unlocked it using cellunlocker. Now I am using it on AT&T with LTE. Also rooted and a custom rom is installed.
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GallardosEggrollShop said:
I walked into a T-Mobile store day after they released the phone. Bought it full retail without purchasing a plan or a sim. Went home and unlocked it using cellunlocker. Now I am using it on AT&T with LTE. Also rooted and a custom rom is installed.
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How's your experience with the device? How's your LTE speeds? Is the phone getting very hot?
GallardosEggrollShop said:
I walked into a T-Mobile store day after they released the phone. Bought it full retail without purchasing a plan or a sim. Went home and unlocked it using cellunlocker. Now I am using it on AT&T with LTE. Also rooted and a custom rom is installed.
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Thanks for the update on that. You did not have to put a T-Mo SIM first? I thought that was required for the region unlock issue?
How are the actual LTE speeds? Others have mentioned a drop in speeds due to AT&T not giving top priority to the T-Mo IMEI.
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How's your experience with the device? How's your LTE speeds? Is the phone getting very hot?
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+1 on this question. How is the signal strength as well compared to a true AT&T phone in the same area?
Galaxy Note 3 Active
I was in the T-Mo store today looking at the Note 3. Ready and willing to go ahead and pull the trigger, then the rep says they are all out of the white one. They will have more in by the end of the week. Then mentions, they do have some at another store about 5 miles away though. He looks at me looking all disappointed and says, have you heard the rumor about the N3 active? No, I said. He says, if you can wait to get a new phone you might want to read up as it looks like Samsung is going to be going ahead with the release very soon.
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-s5-and-galaxy-note-3-active-models-tipped-20131007/
Now so confused, I think I have to wait and see what developes.
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They do it after 45 days. Just asked a tmo corporate store today.
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That's compete crap. I can't believe they would do that to you. I was under the impression they had to if you bought it outright. Perhaps you'll have to get an unlock code elsewhere.
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Im confused
I'm on net10 using att network in the US and contacted negri about a n900t they are selling but in the notes on their website it says for international use only.. I thought the n900t was t-mobile version in the US? I asked them about it and they said it will not work in the US. I am confused?
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I'm on net10 using att network in the US and contacted negri about a n900t they are selling but in the notes on their website it says for international use only.. I thought the n900t was t-mobile version in the US? I asked them about it and they said it will not work in the US. I am confused?
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It's because their stock of N900T's have been blacklisted by US carriers. Meaning they were obtained from the gray market. T-Mobile and AT&T have a database of IMEI's that are blocked from their network.
N900T vs N900A
I was reading the thread and was wondering why folks would prefer to buy the N900T vs N900A (especially when they are planning to use if for AT&T and will be required to unlock immediately)? Is there hardware/software advantages for the N900T over the N900A?
I'll add my 2 cents on this. I had originally purchased the T-Mobile variant (N900T) of the Note 3. I loaded up a custom rom and it was perfect. Shortly after that, I noticed my LTE signal (not HSPA) would be very low (-110dbm) in areas where my AT&T branded phones would sit on -94dbm. I flashed back to stock and noticed the same thing. Overall, LTE reception on band 17 on the N900T was very poor. Its probably because the N900T isn't optimized to use Band 17. Using the device with T-Mobile service, I had no LTE issues.
Now using the N900A for AT&T and get great LTE reception.
A buddy of mine has also noticed the TMO Note3 gets a lower reception when compared to my ATT note3. We are both on ATT as well.
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Hi everyone,
Im thinking of getting the T-mobile Note 4 because its the most "usable" model since its bootloader is unlocked, it has different roms to choose from and can be used with LTE globally. I know there is an international model (N910f) but it seems it has trouble with LTE in the US.
So the question is, can I use the N910t (T-mobile) with another carrier right out of the box, if unlocked? Meaning the phone never touches a T-mobile sim card.
Thanks in advanced!
It will need to be unlocked, then it should work on most networks. The LTE will Not work on Verizon or sprint though.
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Be careful with the LTE network. If you want to use it internationally you better check the frequency of the local LTE carrier. Most international carriers use a different frequency. Use this page to guide you en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
itrof61 said:
Hi everyone,
Im thinking of getting the T-mobile Note 4 because its the most "usable" model since its bootloader is unlocked, it has different roms to choose from and can be used with LTE globally. I know there is an international model (N910f) but it seems it has trouble with LTE in the US.
So the question is, can I use the N910t (T-mobile) with another carrier right out of the box, if unlocked? Meaning the phone never touches a T-mobile sim card.
Thanks in advanced!
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There is very cool tool to check your phone compability
http://www.willmyphonework.net
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May be a really dumb question.
Looking to get a Note 5 on AT&T but I need it rooted. I understand only Sprint and T-Mobile are rootable. Right now I have a unlocked Tmobile S6 Edge working on AT&T and am curious if a Note 5 from Sprint will also work.
I'm obviously buying the phone outright. I know it will work on Verizon too, but that also, to my understanding, can't be rooting.
Thanks in advance and sorry if it was a dumb question.
No for Sprint, yes for T-Mobile. Sprint runs their network on CDMA system, and AT&T runs their network on GSM. Even though the Sprint Version of the Note 5 technically has a sim card, its hardware is still based on a CDMA setup. The sprint version would not work. However, The T-Mobile version runs on a GSM Network, like AT&T. So providing that you are able to have Domestic SIM Unlock available to you, you would be able to put an AT&T Sim card in the phone and it would work.
I have the same question as you. I have a sprint note 5 and want to take it to at&t since I just got hired with them I get 50% off. I entered the serial number in on att website and its says it will work
actually i have read the new lte phones are dual radio whether they are gsm or cdma. out the box no it will not work on anything other than sprint. getting it unlocked may be a challenge. the sprint nexus 6 comes factory unlocked and is usable on ALL cdma AND gsm networks. now comes the tricky part even if u do have a unlocked phone. unlocked should work for all gsm like your needs. but u can not take a unlocked nexus from att and use it on sprint like you can the other way around. becuase of cdma networks activating off the esn and not the imei. or for that matter using a sprint phone on a verizon service, yes the phone is capable but cdma has to have the esn in the networks database for it to work. verizon and sprint control what devices can be activated since the activation is through the esn and not the sim card. in the old days the straight answer is no way. i would definitely look into it more before deciding on a answer.
its on the internet so it must be true! but seriously, i am not saying your answer is either yes or no, just saying its worth looking into. fwiw i would think its only a matter of time before the root is achieved on all of them.
http://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/Can-I-use-my-verizon-sprint-phone-on-a-different-network
Has anyone confirmed whether or not a Sprint Note 5 will or will not work on AT&T if it's unlocked?
If you get it unlocked for domestic, yes it will work.
Yes, you can get it unlocked for virtually any carrier. I'm using a Sprint Note 5 on AT&T right now. In fact I'm sending this reply on it. I had it software unlocked (Sprint's a real stickler with their unlocking policy, but even so it's still possible even through them. There are plenty of forums about it. Though there are certain bugs with using it that piss me off like not being able to send MMS while connected to wifi, but I get my full carrier speed. I tested it side by side with an AT&T iphone 6s. Note 5 won massively on the upload time.
I'm helping!
Where did you get it Unlocked!? Please help
Other than preloaded software what differences are there between the two? Any T-Mobile features I would be missing if I got the unlocked version?
I want to know this as well. Does the unlocked version support LTE band 66?
There's no T-Mobile bloatware on unlocked version. You can use Samsung's native Name ID and call blocking instead of paying T-Mobile $3.99/mo or whatever it is. There's very limited RCS support, almost none (should be fixed by end of 2017 when T-Mobile rolls out universal profile).
Otherwise, hardware and radios are identical. I heard you can flash T-Mobile firmware without any bad side-effects, to get all features/bloat.
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I want to know this as well. Does the unlocked version support LTE band 66?
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I have the unlocked Note8 and T-Mobile is my carrier. Band 66 is supported. It also supports VoLTE and WiFi Calling, like the S8/S8+. The only thing that I've noticed missing is RCS/advanced messaging.
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I have the unlocked Note8 and T-Mobile is my carrier. Band 66 is supported. It also supports VoLTE and WiFi Calling, like the S8/S8+. The only thing that I've noticed missing is RCS/advanced messaging.
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Went ahead and got the T-Mobile version, but thx!
Also, carrier models are generally more fined tuned by its carrier, resulting in better reception, connectivity, less battery consumption, and data speeds.
I would like to see someone attempted to flash the TMO CSC/CP over the unlocked firmware. have best of both worlds meaning no carrier bloat with video calling ETC
Ran a few speed tests one after another, between the Tmobile Note 8, and Unlocked Note 8. The unlocked seemed to do better then the T-Mobile branded one. It's seem to prioritize which band to use as primary better. For example Unlocked got 61mb down, and Tmobile got 16mb I guess just sitting on band 12. Last test I did, the Tmobile one did do better at 61mb, Unlocked at 56mb.
I'll be in a long drive heading to Hershey, PA and will have access to both again.
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Ok doesn't seem like I will miss much by using the T-Mobile edition.
Also what is RCS?
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Ran a few speed tests one after another, between the Tmobile Note 8, and Unlocked Note 8. The unlocked seemed to do better then the T-Mobile branded one. It's seem to prioritize which band to use as primary better. For example Unlocked got 61mb down, and Tmobile got 16mb I guess just sitting on band 12. Last test I did, the Tmobile one did do better at 61mb, Unlocked at 56mb.
I'll be in a long drive heading to Hershey, PA and will have access to both again.
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unlocked as in with dragon chip right? looking to go to best buy in usa and get a unlocked and im on t-mo
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unlocked as in with dragon chip right? looking to go to best buy in usa and get a unlocked and im on t-mo
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Yes the Unlocked snap dragon US version.
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ok so a couple of question before i placed my order.
1. Both the t-mobile version and the unlocked version are snapdragon chipset?
2. On the unlocked N8 you can flash the t-mobile Rom with no issue also without tripping knox / voiding warranty.
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ok so a couple of question before i placed my order.
1. Both the t-mobile version and the unlocked version are snapdragon chipset?
2. On the unlocked N8 you can flash the t-mobile Rom with no issue also without tripping knox / voiding warranty.
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1.both are snapdragon chips
2. You can flash/Odin the tmobile rom without issue. And you can also flash/odin the unlocked version if you want to go back. No issues. I've done it a number of times the past few days. And no it won't trip knox or void warranty. You should also flash back to the original rom if you plan on doing a warranty replacement to be safe
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Ran a few speed tests one after another, between the Tmobile Note 8, and Unlocked Note 8. The unlocked seemed to do better then the T-Mobile branded one. It's seem to prioritize which band to use as primary better. For example Unlocked got 61mb down, and Tmobile got 16mb I guess just sitting on band 12. Last test I did, the Tmobile one did do better at 61mb, Unlocked at 56mb.
I'll be in a long drive heading to Hershey, PA and will have access to both again.
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Wow really? I was, contemplating between unlocked as well. But since it wasn't available in orchid grey I decided to go for the tmobile variant. But I don't mind getting black to trade for better download / reception.
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Question for those with the unlocked SM-N950U Snapdragon version on the unlocked no carrier bloat firmware. Does it have the "Mobile Data" toggle when you pull down the notifications?
Does anyone have a guide to flashing the unlocked firmware/software on the T-Mobile version?
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Does anyone have a guide to flashing the unlocked firmware/software on the T-Mobile version?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/stock-recovery-odin-recovery-software-t3671615
Use the Prince Comsy's Odin and edit the config file from 0 to 1 for UMS/patch...run as administrator...bl in bl, ap in ap, cp in cp, csc in csc (not home_csc)...leave UMS slot empty...
Note 8 Unlocked International (Dual) version on T-Mobile
Marmaduke said have the US Unlocked version running on T-Mobile and runs fine.
1) Will like to know how run the Note 8 Unlocked International (Dual) version on T-Mobile
2) Does any one installed T-Mobile ROM on the Unlocked International (Dual) version (not on the unlocked version)
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Marmaduke said have the US Unlocked version running on T-Mobile and runs fine.
1) Will like to know how run the Note 8 Unlocked International (Dual) version on T-Mobile
2) Does any one installed T-Mobile ROM on the Unlocked International (Dual) version (not on the unlocked version)
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I had a T-mobile Galaxy S8+ and, 4 months ago, switched to Factory Unlocked Galaxy Note 8. What I have noticed is that GN8 has weaker signal... I rarely get 5 bars unless I am in the heart of Phoenix or Scottsdale, or Chandler, etc. I live in a rural Arizona City (Maricopa City)... and I rarely pull more than 2 bars out here... My wife has one of the big ZTE phones and her's gets 4 bars in our house.. you know why? Because it uses the T-mobile extended antennae that T-mobile sent me, a year ago, when I had my S8+. Obviously, my GN8 is not connecting to this antennae... That is why I barely get 2 bars, and she gets 4-5... sucks and i have to figure out a way around this issue.
@wphend00
Why don't you use wifi calling at home?