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Hi All,
I have my G900F handset for some days by now and I thought it would be good to share my view about it.
About me, I am a heavy mobile user. my recent handsets in sequence are as follows... SonyEricsson Arc s, Samsung Note 1, HTC sensation, Sony Acro S, HTC one X+, and finally Samsung Galaxy S5 G900F.
Design:
- The device looks normal, nothing fancy (pass)
- The used materials don't really look expensive, it is a plastic handset (negative)
- The battery cover cracks some times if I try to squeeze the phone (negative)
- It's light, thin, and comfortable to hold/use (positive)
Performance:
- Doesn't really feel that I am using a 2.5 quad core processed phone except when I run games. (negative)
- RAM usage doesn't make sense, it is more than what I expected. (negative)
- Still it is quite fast but it would be faster (I feel that my previous HTC One X+ is faster). (pass)
- Battery performance is really good, and it gets charged really quick. (positive)
Screen:
- Screen brightness is amazing (positive)
- Picture quality is really good in general (positive)
- Touch screen is very responsive (positive)
Sensors:
- auto brightness response is really disappointing (negative - used Lux application which makes it much better).
- response of proximity sensor of HTC One X+ was faster, but still not bad in S5 (pass)
- disappointing experience with the proximity sensor when using S View cover (negative).
User interface:
- HTC sense was better and more friendly (pass)
Sound quality:
- people hear me well but can be better (pass).
- I hear people loud, but not Crystal clear (pass)
- loud speaker quality is above average but not amazing (pass).
Hope it helps.
Thanks,
why dont you just go and buy HTC ONE (M8)
All of a sudden, everyone is an expert* critic * reviewer*
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a_k_gano said:
Performance:
- Doesn't really feel that I am using a 2.5 quad core processed phone except when I run games. (negative)
- Still it is quite fast but it would be faster (I feel that my previous HTC One X+ is faster). (pass)
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You are giving 2 different ratings for the same thing? Also i dont know, its blazing fast for me. Seems to m that when someone complains about the speed of the S5 they mean how the UI feels. Try disabling Animations.
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- RAM usage doesn't make sense, it is more than what I expected. (negative)
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And here i dont think you know what you are talking about. High RAM usage is in no way bad. You want as much data stored in the RAM as possible for quick access.
I was comparing between both before buying. My reasons were related to the technical specs some how... and to have some change since my last mobile was htc.
too late now.. money is spent
pnr2020 said:
why dont you just go and buy HTC ONE (M8)
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Yes, i am talking about how the ui feels.
the ram usage means the ui and the running applications are consuming alot. Yes, the main function of ram is to keep but the main function of the ui and the apps is not to exhaust the ram
inexcf said:
You are giving 2 different ratings for the same thing? Also i dont know, its blazing fast for me. Seems to m that when someone complains about the speed of the S5 they mean how the UI feels. Try disabling Animations.
And here i dont think you know what you are talking about. High RAM usage is in no way bad. You want as much data stored in the RAM as possible for quick access.
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What an addition
Tomo1971 said:
All of a sudden, everyone is an expert* critic * reviewer*
*delete as appropriate
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a_k_gano said:
What an addition
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Well it's not as if you've owned a lot of high end phones to compare with is it?
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No worries... this is my experience based on what i expected and what i found.
the comparison is based on comparing with my previous handset, and what i expected.
Anyway, I have it now and will have to enjoy it
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Well it's not as if you've owned a lot of high end phones to compare with is it?
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not exactly two rates... one is a comparison and the other one is a general experience
inexcf said:
You are giving 2 different ratings for the same thing? Also i dont know, its blazing fast for me. Seems to m that when someone complains about the speed of the S5 they mean how the UI feels. Try disabling Animations.
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You say about the casing creaking when you squeeze it... Has the s5 got a built in juice maker? Why on earth do you need to squeeze it?
Of course the good thing about been mainly plastic is that plastic is more plyable.... I had a z2 last week and within 3 days of ownership the glass back had cracked. I suspect due to the heat from the camera... But if it was a knock it was something that would never of damaged the s5 due to been a plastic plyable frame.
For every negative one sees, another sees it as a positive.
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a_k_gano said:
Yes, i am talking about how the ui feels.
the ram usage means the ui and the running applications are consuming alot. Yes, the main function of ram is to keep but the main function of the ui and the apps is not to exhaust the ram
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Dont use TouchWiz. In fact for some reasons most Samsung apps seem a tiny bit slower than others dont know why. One thing that is a bit annoying is the home button. Open something and close it with the back button and then do the same thing but close it with the home button. The homebutton takes significantly longer, because its waiting to decide if it is a short press or if it should wait to launch the long press action. There should be a way to change that though. And try disabling the Animations or at least make them shorter. When people talk about the M8 having a smoother AI and they talk about lag on the S5 it seems like the Animation speed on the S5 is longer which makes it feel like it lags in comparison.
And considering the RAM:
Having as much as possible loaded in the RAM just is a good thing. Free RAM is just a waste. And looking at the RAM usage of each app there doesnt seem to be anything that exhaust the RAM. After a cold boot my RAM is filled about 60% and with almost every App already loaded to the memory. As long as there arent different apps that need to run and exceed the 2GB limit at the same time you wont notice anything. RAM full and you start a new app? An old process gets killed or suspended and you will only notice that the RAM was exhausted when you do extreme multitasking and constantly switch back to suspended apps.
Tomo1971 said:
You say about the casing creaking when you squeeze it... Has the s5 got a built in juice maker? Why on earth do you need to squeeze it?
Of course the good thing about been mainly plastic is that plastic is more plyable.... I had a z2 last week and within 3 days of ownership the glass back had cracked. I suspect due to the heat from the camera... But if it was a knock it was something that would never of damaged the s5 due to been a plastic plyable frame.
For every negative one sees, another sees it as a positive.
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Ok
inexcf said:
Dont use TouchWiz. In fact for some reasons most Samsung apps seem a tiny bit slower than others dont know why. One thing that is a bit annoying is the home button. Open something and close it with the back button and then do the same thing but close it with the home button. The homebutton takes significantly longer, because its waiting to decide if it is a short press or if it should wait to launch the long press action. There should be a way to change that though. And try disabling the Animations or at least make them shorter. When people talk about the M8 having a smoother AI and they talk about lag on the S5 it seems like the Animation speed on the S5 is longer which makes it feel like it lags in comparison.
And considering the RAM:
Having as much as possible loaded in the RAM just is a good thing. Free RAM is just a waste. And looking at the RAM usage of each app there doesnt seem to be anything that exhaust the RAM. After a cold boot my RAM is filled about 60% and with almost every App already loaded to the memory. As long as there arent different apps that need to run and exceed the 2GB limit at the same time you wont notice anything. RAM full and you start a new app? An old process gets killed or suspended and you will only notice that the RAM was exhausted when you do extreme multitasking and constantly switch back to suspended apps.
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thanks tomo
Ditch touchwiz and replace it with Apex or Nova. Quicker and uses about 550MB less RAM. Also, turn off all the animations in developer settings.
If you *really* cared about specs, you should've gone for the Note 3 (Which is much better) or waited for the S5 Prime.
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when you do extreme multitasking.
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I like that line. Almost sounds like a sport.
-Airax
ShadowLea said:
If you *really* cared about specs, you should've gone for the Note 3 (Which is much better) or waited for the S5 Prime.
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There's a huge thread debating this... *much* better is very subjective.
Both have their advantages and disadvantages. I found the S5 Touchwiz a marked improvement thanks to less bloat and much cleaner aesthetics. Camera is much better, screen is better (more advanced version of AMOLED) and battery is equal or better.
Plus for me the choice was between the Exynos variants and the Note 3 is at a huge disadvantage due to the S5 having global task scheduling and a much better audio chip (Wolfson), I had the S2 and swore I'd never buy another phone with a Yamaha DAC.
Memory is the largest advantage of the N3, S Pen and screen size (depends on personal taste), which kinda makes this whole thing a zero-sum depending on who you ask..
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There's a huge thread debating this... *much* better is very subjective.
Both have their advantages and disadvantages. I found the S5 Touchwiz a marked improvement thanks to less bloat and much cleaner aesthetics. Camera is much better, screen is better (more advanced version of AMOLED) and battery is equal or better.
Plus for me the choice was between the Exynos variants and the Note 3 is at a huge disadvantage due to the S5 having global task scheduling and a much better audio chip (Wolfson), I had the S2 and swore I'd never buy another phone with a Yamaha DAC.
Memory is the largest advantage of the N3, S Pen and screen size (depends on personal taste), which kinda makes this whole thing a zero-sum depending on who you ask..
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For me I didn't consider the Note 3 as the big screen reflects into a big size. The Note 3 size for me is not comfortable to use in hand.
Also, did anyone face problems with the S-view cover... and how about the auto brightness response...
Go buy an IPhone, pointless thread.
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Hello from North Carolina, US.
After carrying the Note 2 for two years, I am over the large phone form factor and was considering the Z3c back when it was released. But, I'm on Verizon (CDMA) and it just wasn't a good time to shift to TMobile. My Note 2 died, and I started carrying my wife's old Galaxy S3, which confirmed my preference for a smaller handset. Since my contract with Verizon is over in June, I figured I would carry the S3 until then, see what phones were announced at MWC and make my next phone decision based on that.
Frankly, for my use cases... MWC was MEH.
The S6/edge and HTC One M9 are both lovely phones, but I don't feel like they meet my needs as well as the Z3c. With the Z3c, I love the small form factor, the waterproofiness, the battery and the dedicated shutter button. Also, an S6 with as much storage as the SD card I already own will be hundreds of dollars more expensive than the Z3c.
That said, is it crazy to buy a 6 month old phone? Considering my use cases (primarily utilitarian - music, email, rss, news/weather, social, navigation, camera - no processor intensive games) and considering how surprisingly well the S3 is still running with these use cases at nearly three years old, I am thinking the Z3c may still be a good fit for me. And, I don't want to wait as long as the rumors are saying I would need to wait for the Z4 series (autumn 2015).
What about you, would you still buy the Z3c today? Do you think, based on how I've described my uses, that it would be a good fit for me? Is there another small form factor device I should be considering? Should I suck it up and wait for autumn and the Z4's?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this.
Cheers
Jack
JackinNC said:
Hello from North Carolina, US.
After carrying the Note 2 for two years, I am over the large phone form factor and was considering the Z3c back when it was released. But, I'm on Verizon (CDMA) and it just wasn't a good time to shift to TMobile. My Note 2 died, and I started carrying my wife's old Galaxy S3, which confirmed my preference for a smaller handset. Since my contract with Verizon is over in June, I figured I would carry the S3 until then, see what phones were announced at MWC and make my next phone decision based on that.
Frankly, for my use cases... MWC was MEH.
The S6/edge and HTC One M9 are both lovely phones, but I don't feel like they meet my needs as well as the Z3c. With the Z3c, I love the small form factor, the waterproofiness, the battery and the dedicated shutter button. Also, an S6 with as much storage as the SD card I already own will be hundreds of dollars more expensive than the Z3c.
That said, is it crazy to buy a 6 month old phone? Considering my use cases (primarily utilitarian - music, email, rss, news/weather, social, navigation, camera - no processor intensive games) and considering how surprisingly well the S3 is still running with these use cases at nearly three years old, I am thinking the Z3c may still be a good fit for me. And, I don't want to wait as long as the rumors are saying I would need to wait for the Z4 series (autumn 2015).
What about you, would you still buy the Z3c today? Do you think, based on how I've described my uses, that it would be a good fit for me? Is there another small form factor device I should be considering? Should I suck it up and wait for autumn and the Z4's?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this.
Cheers
Jack
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For sure I'd still buy the Z3C today.
You're using your wife's S3 which is over 3 years old, so calling a 6 month old phone 'old' is kind of bs (No offense @ all)
As for the Z4, well.... there is no word about a Z4C and based on what Sony previously did, there shouldn't be a Z4C, but a Z5C (if ever).
The Z3C is a great phone, besides the occasional build flaws and bad camera under low light conditions.
That's great feedback, thank you.
Dsteppa said:
You're using your wife's S3 which is over 3 years old, so calling a 6 month old phone 'old' is kind of bs (No offense @ all)
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None taken. The last 5 phones I've bought for myself or my wife have been purchased within 2 weeks of release, sometimes by me standing in line on release day. I buy them early, use them for 2 years when I can contractually upgrade and get a new one and start the cycle over. I typically use a phone for two years and it starts to feel "old" to me at ~18-20 months when a couple new cycles of phones and android versions have been released. My concern is not that the phone is "old" now, rather that, being 6 months old now, it may start to feel old at 12-14 months rather than 18-20.
Btw, I followed your photo link from another post of yours. Like you comments here, your sample photos are really helpful.
Thanks again
Jack
JackinNC said:
That's great feedback, thank you.
None taken. The last 5 phones I've bought for myself or my wife have been purchased within 2 weeks of release, sometimes by me standing in line on release day. I buy them early, use them for 2 years when I can contractually upgrade and get a new one and start the cycle over. I typically use a phone for two years and it starts to feel "old" to me at ~18-20 months when a couple new cycles of phones and android versions have been released. My concern is not that the phone is "old" now, rather that, being 6 months old now, it may start to feel old at 12-14 months rather than 18-20.
Btw, I followed your photo link from another post of yours. Like you comments here, your sample photos are really helpful.
Thanks again
Jack
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Thank you.
Well I don't know, in terms of specs I don't see much changing any time soon, unless all manufacturers decide to make 64bit phones or use a new type of battery that either lasts long and/or charges super fast.
In the end as long as you're doing 'normal' things the phone should be your companion for at least 2 years without you really noticing a difference between your phone and other people's.
Z3 and Z3 compact are best options on android right now.
implying you don't want a phablet.
new phones like GS6 and ONE M9 are cool but you can find a Z3 for 500€/$ and a Z3C for 400, (gs6 and one ~750$)
you'll have same software 5.0.2 with better UI, and better battery, only the camera will be a bit behind but still excellent.
so unless you have money to waste just go for it it's a good deal
I love my z3 compact but if I were to buy a new phone now, I would get the galaxy s6 edge.
The biggest issue I have with the z3c is the speaker. Currently if I am in a semi loud surrounding, I can hardly hear the other person on the line.
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As usual it depends on what you need. Me personally there is no other phone than the Z3c atm. Size/hardware/design... its perfect for me.
So if you're looking for a smaller phone (one hand use) with excellent battery life and fast hardware just go for it there is nothing that comes even close in that department.
I'm very torn right now, I'm frustrated that I would have to use the bloated stock software to get decent camera quality (no barrel distortion and better low light) and that CM12, while it runs decently doesn't support the features locked away by DRM. I'm contemplating reverting back to a Nexus 5...I think my biggest issue would be the camera, I thought it would be superb but in reality it only matches my nexus considering the distortion. And Sony's DRM and bootloader locking nonsense seems ridiculous to me.
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I'm very torn right now, I'm frustrated that I would have to use the bloated stock software to get decent camera quality (no barrel distortion and better low light) and that CM12, while it runs decently doesn't support the features locked away by DRM. I'm contemplating reverting back to a Nexus 5...I think my biggest issue would be the camera, I thought it would be superb but in reality it only matches my nexus considering the distortion. And Sony's DRM and bootloader locking nonsense seems ridiculous to me.
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you can just root and then debloat.
2mal16 said:
you can just root and then debloat.
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That's easy...the hard part is losing all the customizations. I went to stock 5.0.2 rooted, system R/W support isn't there, I lose all sorts of little features like expanded desktop, quick unlock, navigation customization...
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That's easy...the hard part is losing all the customizations. I went to stock 5.0.2 rooted, system R/W support isn't there, I lose all sorts of little features like expanded desktop, quick unlock, navigation customization...
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Rw is already fixed though you wont like the process if you want to Stay on locked bl. Those features will be implemented either by Sony or more likely xposed working. Just give it some time
2mal16 said:
Rw is already fixed though you wont like the process if you want to Stay on locked bl. Those features will be implemented either by Sony or more likely xposed working. Just give it some time
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Pretty sure Sony is done with us after this update, minus maybe a couple security patches there won't be any new features. I already tried CM12 for a good month, just couldn't stand the camera and the bugs were a bit too much for a DD. Hoping for xposed and working recoveries on lollipop...that's about all I can do right now.
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Pretty sure Sony is done with us after this update, minus maybe a couple security patches there won't be any new features. I already tried CM12 for a good month, just couldn't stand the camera and the bugs were a bit too much for a DD. Hoping for xposed and working recoveries on lollipop...that's about all I can do right now.
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Jeah it will Come soon enough, I mean lolli was just released and recoveries,custom Kernels and a working xposed will all make their way on this device sooner or later. Just play the waiting game... again
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Pretty sure Sony is done with us after this update, minus maybe a couple security patches there won't be any new features. I already tried CM12 for a good month, just couldn't stand the camera and the bugs were a bit too much for a DD. Hoping for xposed and working recoveries on lollipop...that's about all I can do right now.
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Let's see... The Xperia Z that has been released for about 2 years also received the Lollipop update, why would you think that Sony would stop update a phone that's just been out 6 month's. Can you please tell me your logic?
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Nice Features
There are some things which are so nice. Most of the new phones arent waterproof. Phones are getting bigger and bigger. But the z3c is smaller but quite good.
I certainly would buy the Z3C again, the biggest gripe I have is the lack of Quality Case choices. Great phone IMO, size, battery, speed and takes above average pictures(Auto mode) and if you take the time to use the manual settings it can take excellent pictures.
So far, Sony Z3C has no real competition. In android world. I just bought one.
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Let's see... The Xperia Z that has been released for about 2 years also received the Lollipop update, why would you think that Sony would stop update a phone that's just been out 6 month's. Can you please tell me your logic?
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Well with the persisting rumors that Sony is either scaling back or dropping their mobile division...I just have a gut feeling.
And I guess I changed my mind. Just ordered a replacement Nexus 5 like my old one. I will miss the size and it is a sharp looking phone, but the broken features that can never be fixed (mostly camera stuff) and the DRM nonsense really turned me off of this phone. I may be an oddball but I just don't like that I'm missing all the little customizations and things on CM12 when I'm on stock, and Xposed will probably only fix about half of those features. Miss Privacy Guard, Quick unlock, all that good stuff. And I just don't like the UI design choices. Plus all the no-name "device reporting" and "anonymous reporting" services running in the background that can't be disabled.
I'm sure in a few months CM12 will have the microphone & other issues ironed out, but what's the point of having a 20MP camera that has distortion and poor image quality that (from what I've read) can never be fixed in an AOSP rom?
I would recommend it to my fiancee that doesn't use her phone for much more than texting and Youtube, but not for a tinkerer like myself.
FOR SURE! Unless you want to wait for a Z4 Compact to even be announced, and then eventually come out, I'd say the Z3 Compact remains the best phone at it's size from anyone, still to this day. The Galaxy S5 Mini just came out recently, and it's a Snapdragon 400! The Z3 Compact has a great, waterproof build, MicroSD, Camera Button, and 801 processor. Nothing else comes close unless you're okay with a leviathan of a phone I love my Z3 Compact and really do not desire a new phone or ever again something larger...
Would definitely still buy again. Just ticks so many boxes that other devices don't (size, speed, battery, microSD, camera). It really has no competition. I'm not sure we'll see a Z4 compact at all - doubt z3 compact is a big seller and with Sony in such a mess, they may just focus on the Z4. If that happens, we're in bad shape for fully spec'd < 5" Android devices. The good news is that the hardware is advancing so slowly now, the z3c will probably be a viable platform for quite awhile.
My Galaxy S4 (two generations old!) still runs CM12 perfectly fine. It's an SD600!
I'm planning on upgrading in a few weeks. My question is for folks who went from the S5 to the S6.....
Is it worth it? Can't pull the battery. No SD card slot.
Are you impressed? Pissed? I've done a lot of reading on the S6, but, I would rather hear it first hand from yall.
I came from a Note 4. I am happy with the S6. Have not rooted yet. Just waiting to see more thoughts and app support for 64 bit. Screen is clear and very bright. It's very manageable in my hand. Easy to text. I got the 64gb version
Because I take a ton of pics. I think with a little dev support. This phone will fly faster then how it is now. Do get a case though. I think I cam honestly wait till the S7 whenever that comes down the road. Camera is amazing.
Overall I'm very happy.
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Would love some sickness over here.
I will more than likely be here in a few weeks.
also had a Note 4, and pretty much agree with the other poster; fantastic display, ultra smooth and fast,(not using touchwiz), battery is fine after a few days, and the built in wireless charging makes keeping the battery charged a breeze, camera is incredible, and I thought I would miss the ext sd card, but with a 64/128 gig phone, and such easy access to large cloud storage, its a non issue for me.
Rooted easily, not much dev yet, but its only been out "officially" for a couple of weeks, so not concerned about that.
Zero regrets at this point..
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also had a Note 4, and pretty much agree with the other poster; fantastic display, ultra smooth and fast,(not using touchwiz), battery is fine after a few days, and the built in wireless charging makes keeping the battery charged a breeze, camera is incredible, and I thought I would miss the ext sd card, but with a 64/128 gig phone, and such easy access to large cloud storage, its a non issue for me.
Rooted easily, not much dev yet, but its only been out "officially" for a couple of weeks, so not concerned about that.
Zero regrets at this point..
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Pretty much this for me too.
I had a G3. The stock rom was ok and Xposed tweaks made it better, but development never picked up like I had hoped. When the S6 came out, I sold the G3 and got a regular S6 64 GB. I thought I would miss expandable memory, but I haven't. The G3 camera was awesome but the S6 camera is even better. The screen is phenomenal — it blows everything else out of the water. The fingerprint scanner actually works and isn't some janky wannabe that was tacked on at the last minute. Touchwiz is...tolerable. I never thought I would say that about TW because every other Samsung phone I've owned made me want to flash another rom within a day of using it. TW has been toned down a notch. It won't sway anyone from stock android, but Samsung has definitely taken a step in the right direction. The S6 battery life sucked for the first few days, but then I read about the wifi calling & VoLTE bugs, so I disabled those and battery life has been better. I do miss having a removable battery. I bought wireless chargers for my bedroom and for work, and they do the job. Plus, the quick charge feature really helps. I have gradually changed my expectations regarding battery life. So instead of being irritated that the S6 does not have exceptional stamina, I just enjoy it for what it does offer.
If you typically get more than 24 hours on your S5, then you might make it to bedtime with the S6.
If you are a heavy user and don't want to (or can't) bump charge during the day, then you will probably be disappointed. But if you don't mind plugging in during the day, then I would say go for it.
The Sickness! That alone makes me absolutely thrilled that I jumped to the s6! Your an AMAZING developer!
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The Sickness! That alone makes me absolutely thrilled that I jumped to the s6! Your an AMAZING developer!
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Thanks man. Hopefully I can continue my Twisted Lollipop here very soon.
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Thanks man. Hopefully I can continue my Twisted Lollipop here very soon.
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Bro, luv this phone! Just went on vacation last week with the family took some priceless pictures! Feel, screen, lag free, battery is way better than expected! Just have to keep running the things you use not the things you don't. No different from the s2,s3,s4,or the s5. Went for the plane Jane s6. The edge was tempting, but I'm a diesel tech of 18 years, when I held it, I felt that no case out there would protect my abuse - just too exposed. Extremely happy with this device! Short of the Sickness touch of course! Love some direction on how to donate to you, YOUR why my decision to the s6 from the s5 was so difficult. That aside, IMO, overall this puts the s5 to shame.
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Bro, luv this phone! Just went on vacation last week with the family took some priceless pictures! Feel, screen, lag free, battery is way better than expected! Just have to keep running the things you use not the things you don't. No different from the s2,s3,s4,or the s5. Went for the plane Jane s6. The edge was tempting, but I'm a diesel tech of 18 years, when I held it, I felt that no case out there would protect my abuse - just too exposed. Extremely happy with this device! Short of the Sickness touch of course! Love some direction on how to donate to you, YOUR why my decision to the s6 from the s5 was so difficult. That aside, IMO, overall this puts the s5 to shame.
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Under my info is a yellow button that says Donate to me.....it will take you to PayPal. You can see the button in Web view, not the XDA app.
I'll be here. Just have to sell my S4. I have a deal with my wife on upgrading. Long story.
Coming from s4 to note 4 now s6. S4 was awesome but now laggy for it's time also battery was horrendous. Not 4 was awesome the battery was amazing it lasted for ever. The screen was so crisp. My only issue was it was tooo big. I found myself fumbling in one handed operation. And my thumbs were pulling muscles. Coming from those devices i feel this phone is unstopable as far as speed/lag. The camera is way better as far as clarity and speed. The quick double press of the home button to open the camera is genius. No regrets accept the larger screen was nice for movies and web browsing but i would rather be able to one hand it. Sd card is no issue with 64 gig plus. The memory is much faster and shows in performance. Battery pull is a non issue with power and volume down. Does the reset just fine. The battery life on the s6 is fantastic. Very close to the note 4. I cant compare to the s5 but i get way better battery life than the s4. One thing I am not fond of is the new TW app drawer. You have to hit an alphabetical sorting button every time you add apps other wise it just adds them to the end. Also you cant scoll through apps past the letter z. It wont go to A. You have to scroll left through all the apps backwords. Also it groups tons of apps by folders, like google apps in one and social apps in another. No way to change it. Yes i know there is nova and others but i liked the old touchwiz the way it was. Nova cant scroll past letter Z either. All in all I think you are going to be very pleased with this new upgrade. I cant wait to see what you can do with it. It will be SICK.
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Coming from s4 to note 4 now s6. S4 was awesome but now laggy for it's time also battery was horrendous. Not 4 was awesome the battery was amazing it lasted for ever. The screen was so crisp. My only issue was it was tooo big. I found myself fumbling in one handed operation. And my thumbs were pulling muscles. Coming from those devices i feel this phone is unstopable as far as speed/lag. The camera is way better as far as clarity and speed. The quick double press of the home button to open the camera is genius. No regrets accept the larger screen was nice for movies and web browsing but i would rather be able to one hand it. Sd card is no issue with 64 gig plus. The memory is much faster and shows in performance. Battery pull is a non issue with power and volume down. Does the reset just fine. The battery life on the s6 is fantastic. Very close to the note 4. I cant compare to the s5 but i get way better battery life than the s4. One thing I am not fond of is the new TW app drawer. You have to hit an alphabetical sorting button every time you add apps other wise it just adds them to the end. Also you cant scoll through apps past the letter z. It wont go to A. You have to scroll left through all the apps backwords. Also it groups tons of apps by folders, like google apps in one and social apps in another. No way to change it. Yes i know there is nova and others but i liked the old touchwiz the way it was. Nova cant scroll past letter Z either. All in all I think you are going to be very pleased with this new upgrade. I cant wait to see what you can do with it. It will be SICK.
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Are s6's will be totally awesome with some sickness. Hell yeah buddy!!!
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I'm ready ☺
I'm waiting for my S4 to sell and I'll be picking up the S6 that day. Super freaking stoked!!! Also looking forward to some Sickness!
hs420 said:
I'm waiting for my S4 to sell and I'll be picking up the S6 that day. Super freaking stoked!!! Also looking forward to some Sickness!
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Just sold mine last night
jonahtriangle said:
One thing I am not fond of is the new TW app drawer....you cant scoll through apps past the letter z. It wont go to A. You have to scroll left through all the apps backwords. Yes i know there is nova and others but i liked the old touchwiz the way it was. Nova cant scroll past letter Z either.
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Do you mean scrolling from Z back to A? Nova does that. Under Nova Settings > Drawer > Infinite Scroll
@The Sickness
I never had a S4 or S5 but I saw your rom features, and it looks pretty sweet. One thing though: Is it possible to mod the stock messaging app with option to delay sending sms for a few seconds? CM has this feature, which is the only thing I miss from CM.
Edit: Never mind. Textra offers delayed sending, I will try that.
Get it sickness, this phone is awesome.. I honestly didn't expect to love my GS6 this much.. Best decision I've made, definitely worth the upgrade, the camera is f*ckin awesome.. Touchwiz has been scaled back significantly and not to mention how sexy this phone is..
EDIT: plus the finger scanner makes much more sense this time around lol, battery life was good IMO, when I first got the phone I noticed significant battery drain, but the more I use the phone it seems like the battery life is getting better, the only thing I miss from my s5 is the waterproofing, that was one less thing to worry about, also this phone has a glass back, so I'd suggest you had a case or some kind of glass protector for the back, and a screen protector on the front
I got my S6 today. I've only had it for about 5 hours so far but holy cow this thing is amazing!! The screen and the camera are ridiculously clear, apps load way fast, and so far the battery is holding up better than my S4 did with similar usage. @The Sickness you won't be disappointed!!
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Just sold mine last night
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So did you actually get yhe s6? Or did you choose another brand?
Still getting the S6.....just waiting on some stuff to be settled with PayPal
Hi everyone,
I'm using the xiaomi mi2 today and all in all happy. It got wet and screen is broken so I have to think of an alternative soon before it dies completely.
I came across the Z3c and was charmed by the similar size and great battery life.
I kind of disappointed it only have 2gb ram, okay camera, no ir.. But it's very good looking water resistant phone.
My limit is 5".
I thought maybe to wait for the z4c because of the 1080p screen, 3gb ram probably but kind of stressed by the fact it will host the problematic 810 snapdragon,which warms up AZ everyone in the Internet reports.
Should I buy it now or wait? Would you buy it today even that its almost one year out, and maybe there's better options today?
I'm also a bit amazed I can't root the phone without losing the already not so great camera quality.
How is the development community here? Is it planned to have 5.1? would you recommend CM and other roms as a good option or is it buggy and bad battery life?
I bought one today.
1080p is nice (I had Nexus 4 which is 720p and went to HTC M7 which is 1080p, it is no thaaaaaaaat difference)
2Gb of ram is enough
I don't think there are better options, and with SD810 things are getting "hotter".
You can root without loosing camera quality
5.1 is planned to arrive on July by sony.
Im buying mine next month. Same Price of G3 but that 2k display made me run away lol
And love sony too
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would you recommend CM and other roms as a good option or is it buggy and bad battery life?
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I tried CM nightlies, performance and battery life is good. But battery life is better at stock rom because of power saving algorithms of sony.
Biggest down side is the camera in custom roms like CM. You should unlock bootloader to flash custom roms and this action removes DRM keys, resulting in bad camera quality. There is also the wide lens issue, images get distorted in camera apps other than stock sony camera app. I would like to use CM but as far as I know there is no fix for bad camera in Cm (or in other custom roms).
But the good thing is that you can restore drm keys if you have backed up drm keys with a tool in the forums, and return to rooted stock roms and regain the not-so-great-but-absolutely-better-than-cm image quality for camera.
Ok, zihinsiz say all good things, but if i can tell you something... Take care of you mi4, because with our z3c you will have no real benefits (ok, battery A LITTLE better, screen and resolution A LITTLE better) but nothing really really better that you can see as really different as your actually situation
zihinsiz, Thanks for the input. Is it possible to root without removing DRM keys (which actually means, without unlocking the bootlaoder?) , and then to have CM with the sony camera, which does all the PP and thus not losing image quality? beacuse if not, it actually means I should never exchange roms...not being able to remove embedded bloatware (which is done easily with root)
PeppeBove, I have the mi2 (bought it when it first got out, almost 3 years ago!), did you mistype and think I have the mi2, and claim there's no big difference comparing both, or did you misread and think I have the mi4?
I also have another question, Where can I find the differences between both Z3C models D5803, D5833? Which one is the "international" one?
And how is the speaker phone & speakers volume? Is it good enough?
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zihinsiz, Thanks for the input. Is it possible to root without removing DRM keys (which actually means, without unlocking the bootlaoder?) , and then to have CM with the sony camera, which does all the PP and thus not losing image quality? beacuse if not, it actually means I should never exchange roms...not being able to remove embedded bloatware (which is done easily with root)
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Yes, you can have root without unlocking the bootloader and without losing drm related functions. So, you can debloat the stock rom, flash mods and use xposed framework without losing any function.
And trying cm or other roms is also possible after unlocking bootloader and returning to fully functional stock rom is possible with drm restore and bootloader relocking. Unfortunately Sony camera app only works in stock roms, that is the disadvantage I talked about. You should forget camera if you have a custom rom installed, that bad is the quality I think.
Camera quality is the only thing gets bad while bootloader is unlocked? and in any case, using any other camera app will get bad results?
gps and all other sensors behave OK no matter what?
Is it possible to get google dialer or some of the stock feeling of aosp/cm roms?
As a Z3C owners can you see any other competitor with better specs at this dimensions (< 13CM height) ?
Im already looking at the devilcase metal bumper...
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Camera quality is the only thing gets bad while bootloader is unlocked? and in any case, using any other camera app will get bad results?
gps and all other sensors behave OK no matter what?
Is it possible to get google dialer or some of the stock feeling of aosp/cm roms?
As a Z3C owners can you see any other competitor with better specs at this dimensions (< 13CM height) ?
Im already looking at the devilcase metal bumper...
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You can look at the topic in my signature for example pictures. I think my pictures are at the last or 1 before last page.
I took the pictures with Camera FV-5 and an unlocked bootloader.
They really aren't bad in my opinion, you will probably only notice a difference with low light.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4928&idPhone2=6538. Thats a spec to spec comparison. I just got the z3 compact too and have had to switch over since my m7 decided to conveniently die on me without any warning sign. Overall I cant really tell the difference in the resolution partly because in day today applications it doesn't really matter. I suggest investing in a magnetic charger as well in order to maintain the water- resistance of the phone. The battery life is yet to be put through the paces but it's already shaping up to be much better than my heavily customized m7 was. Both my phones had 2 gigs of ram and I never saw myself using more than 1.5 gigs at the most. Overall I'd say it was worth the upgrade especially since I got my z3c for 300 AUD . Also the bluetooth low energy is handy if you use bluetooth headphones or if your car supports it. After the oneplus one, this is the second best phone in terms of price to specs to the fact that it is actually small enough to call a phone. My 2 cents would be not to wait since sony supports their devices for 18 months so you do get Android M and possibly the next iteration as well so really you've got all bases covered here
i wouldn't buy one today. it feels more sluggish than my wife's galaxy alpha, so i would go with an S6, even having the battery+screen size+water proofness penalty.
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i wouldn't buy one today. it feels more sluggish than my wife's galaxy alpha, so i would go with an S6, even having the battery+screen size+water proofness penalty.
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Unless you are running the exact same apps on each phone it's very hard to justify a sluggish statement. You can certainly have a rogue app bogging down your phone.
I'd buy the Z3c again as there really isn't anything else to compare it to in the sub 5" category. While I'd like the camera on the S6 I'm not sure I could deal with the decrease in battery life and the overall size..as well as TouchWiz.
I saw this on ebay which is really cheap, i don't know if its some deal or sale, do y'all think its worth it? Here is the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-XZ3D58...858?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f4e0b155a
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-XZ3D58...929?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item487f6513b9
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-XZ3D58...931?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item487f6513bb
The Z3c is a decent enough phone that feels snappy, is the perfect size and has amazing battery life, but it has its quirks . If I were in the market today I'd wait to see what the Galaxy S6 Mini brings to the table. I might even sell my Z3c if the S6 Mini packs as much performance as the regular S6.
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I saw this on ebay which is really cheap, i don't know if its some deal or sale, do y'all think its worth it? Here is the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-XZ3D58...858?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f4e0b155a
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-XZ3D58...929?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item487f6513b9
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-XZ3D58...931?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item487f6513bb
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These are Seller refurbished, not factory refurbs either. I personally wouldn't chance it, but thats up to you. Also it states that there could be signs of use. I'd either buy new or keep an eye out on swappa.
I've been debating on getting a z3c myself but i might wait for z3+c possibly even s6 mini. Its a tough call.
The problem with Samsung is that their devices is always very "tall", because of the hardware buttons, plus no sdcard, no water proof...
maybe the camera will be a plus.
Im going to buy the Z3C. I made up my mind
Now I struggle where to buy it from.
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The problem with Samsung is that their devices is always very "tall", because of the hardware buttons, plus no sdcard, no water proof...
maybe the camera will be a plus.
Im going to buy the Z3C. I made up my mind
Now I struggle where to buy it from.
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Not sure where you are located but amazon and fleabay seem to have some of the best prices on new device.
I'm itching to buy one myself and kills me that there is no word on when to expect the z3+c. I think id rather have the new version but it will also come with a higher premium as well. My guess would be Sept release
Things that bother me most about the z3c are poor indoor shots, cap over charging port, and the docking pins on the side.
Don't hold your breath for a Z3c+ to be released. Mini/Compact phones are going the way of the Dodo Bird (sadly). Get the Z3C now or possibly even the Samsung Alpha. The Galaxy S6 mini could be awesome (minus touchwiz) or it could be crippled like the previous mini versions have been. If you can wait, do so, so you won't have any regrets. The price will only get lower.
I bought my 1st in November white color, Sold it to some1 last month and bought green one. Giving it to my wife next month and again buying new white one next month. Its the perfect phone.
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Not sure where you are located but amazon and fleabay seem to have some of the best prices on new device.
I'm itching to buy one myself and kills me that there is no word on when to expect the z3+c. I think id rather have the new version but it will also come with a higher premium as well. My guess would be Sept release
Things that bother me most about the z3c are poor indoor shots, cap over charging port, and the docking pins on the side.
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Here in Portugal most of stores aren't getting more Z3C.
I asked about 3 or 4 stores and they either say they don't have stock for some months or that the device was discontinued, that's why I bought it now.
Best prices here are around 256-370eur on unknow stores, but on orange (it's a store from expansys group) at 389eur (discount code deal10). On physical stores the best price I saw was 411 or 550eur with the sony smartwatch.
On international stores like dvdandorra you can get it at 339eur .
Hey guys I'm about to buy a refurbished Xperia Z from Amazon, but I'd like you guys to give me some advice. Do you recommend me? My main concerns are battery, display(they say blacks are grayish), camera and sound. I come from a galaxy s3 and lumia 640 XL(maybe someone has/had one of these smartphones and could give me some thoughts). I suppose the performance is great. I also noticed the device has some pretty good community and development(which the s3 lacks a bit)-which is also very important to me... am I right? Also, how does AOSP-based lollipop(may I dare and also say marshmallow ) run on it? Sorry guys for too many questions and also sorry for my english.
Best regards!!
What can I say...
FIRST- if you're buying it for $100 or less maybe it is till a good deal, otherwise maybe it is better to see at other low-to-mid-range
SECOND- yes, the performance is good, even better with lollipop, screen looks better now (maybe sonybravia got better, maybe because lollipop has more white in it and the white is being displayed better), but anyway you have to UNDERCLOCK it in order to get a decent battery life
THIRD- battery life is very disappointing, you HAVE to underclock it and root it and greenify it to get any good battery life, unless you can charge it every 12 hours
FOURTH - the device is getting older and so the interest in this device (im talking about support from devs)
FIFTH - the phone gets hot, like really really hot when you're using it playing games (unless you underclock it), and since the back cover is only a adhesive line, when it gets hotter with the help off the Nfc antenna (which is set to push against the backcover) the backcover gets up and looses its waterproofness
SIX- the flaps - the damn flaps- they're everywhere - and you need to open them every-time you charge the phone, put on the headphones, remove the sim, remove the microSD, and they tend to get loose with time especially the one of the charger since you need to charge it frequently
NOW... that I told you about it downsides, its not a bad phone nowdays, it has a big and very beautiful display, connectivity is like the best i've ever tried, performance is pretty good (cpu + gpu ), camera performs really well - especially in macro, dev support for now is good.
Overall for someone who has it I think it can take another one or two years, but I personally would not buy it unless I find it for cheap or cannot buy a used phone. Personally I would look into a HTC M8 or a LG G3, maybe even used.
You decide
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What can I say...
FIRST- if you're buying it for $100 or less maybe it is till a good deal, otherwise maybe it is better to see at other low-to-mid-range
SECOND- yes, the performance is good, even better with lollipop, screen looks better now (maybe sonybravia got better, maybe because lollipop has more white in it and the white is being displayed better), but anyway you have to UNDERCLOCK it in order to get a decent battery life
THIRD- battery life is very disappointing, you HAVE to underclock it and root it and greenify it to get any good battery life, unless you can charge it every 12 hours
FOURTH - the device is getting older and so the interest in this device (im talking about support from devs)
FIFTH - the phone gets hot, like really really hot when you're using it playing games (unless you underclock it), and since the back cover is only a adhesive line, when it gets hotter with the help off the Nfc antenna (which is set to push against the backcover) the backcover gets up and looses its waterproofness
SIX- the flaps - the damn flaps- they're everywhere - and you need to open them every-time you charge the phone, put on the headphones, remove the sim, remove the microSD, and they tend to get loose with time especially the one of the charger since you need to charge it frequently
NOW... that I told you about it downsides, its not a bad phone nowdays, it has a big and very beautiful display, connectivity is like the best i've ever tried, performance is pretty good (cpu + gpu ), camera performs really well - especially in macro, dev support for now is good.
Overall for someone who has it I think it can take another one or two years, but I personally would not buy it unless I find it for cheap or cannot buy a used phone. Personally I would look into a HTC M8 or a LG G3, maybe even used.
You decide
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Thank you so much for your elaborated answer You really made me think about it.
FIRST- it costs me about $160(in a very good condition) and I really can't pay any more than this for a smartphone. It's actually a pretty good deal for what it normally costs in my country. If you/somebody could recommend me a better phone for this price point(taking into consideration the development community)...
SECOND- good to know.
THIRD- well I have to say it sounds dissapointing. Underclocking...doesn't sound that good to me... although I'd have no problem using greenify. 12 hours with 4g on? What's the usage?(heavy...moderate...)
FOURTH- this is the first thing I look when looking for an android device. If it doesn't allow custom ROMs and doesn't have a decent community behind then I don't buy it.
FIFTH- the "gettin really hot" thing sounds also really dissapointin. I'm not a heavy gamer but I do like to play graphic-intensive games from time to time. So is it really that annoing? About the waterproofness... really not important to me.
SIX- pretty annoing huh? Especially the headphones thing. What if you cut them out? You think there'd be any inconvenience on doing this aside from loosing the waterproof thing(and design of course)?
Well... so yeah some bad news for me here. But I can't find a decent phone wich also has community behind for this price. And another which makes me go for it are the 2GB of RAM.
So I wait for some other answers too guys
Also read my first post's EDIT.
Buying today XZ is stupid... seriously.
When I bought my XZ price of Z1compact was almost the same and it still is, its 20$-30$ difference for most of time(New XZ cost about 180$ z1c 200$)
And for that price you can buy WAY better phones, starting from Galaxy S4 to LG G series. And you want to stick to Sony you can get even z1 or used z2
As far as I love this phone I would not recommend it to anyone, battery is below average, camera is worst than my old Arc S, and those cover flaps are pain in the A##
This is best example of phone that look good, but those small bugs in everyday usage make it annoying to use...
And yes I still use it :] Because after using new phones... I found out that most of them are the same: average battery, and looots of small bugs that make them annoying after some time. So I decide to change phones once per 3-4 years...
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For that price NO! Performance with LP is good, camera not so good even with LP. Didnt have issues with overheating, connectivity is good. Screen and colors looks pretty nice for me.
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Thank you so much for your elaborated answer You really made me think about it.
FIRST- it costs me about $160(in a very good condition) and I really can't pay any more than this for a smartphone. It's actually a pretty good deal for what it normally costs in my country. If you/somebody could recommend me a better phone for this price point(taking into consideration the development community)...
SECOND- good to know.
THIRD- well I have to say it sounds dissapointing. Underclocking...doesn't sound that good to me... although I'd have no problem using greenify. 12 hours with 4g on? What's the usage?(heavy...moderate...)
FOURTH- this is the first thing I look when looking for an android device. If it doesn't allow custom ROMs and doesn't have a decent community behind then I don't buy it.
FIFTH- the "gettin really hot" thing sounds also really dissapointin. I'm not a heavy gamer but I do like to play graphic-intensive games from time to time. So is it really that annoing? About the waterproofness... really not important to me.
SIX- pretty annoing huh? Especially the headphones thing. What if you cut them out? You think there'd be any inconvenience on doing this aside from loosing the waterproof thing(and design of course)?
Well... so yeah some bad news for me here. But I can't find a decent phone wich also has community behind for this price. And another which makes me go for it are the 2GB of RAM.
So I wait for some other answers too guys
Also read my first post's EDIT.
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Well,
ONE - if you want a phone with good Dev community support and with that budget you'll have to take a look at ex-flagship devices, like HTC One M7 (this one remains IMHO one of the best devices ever), LG G2(very good camera from what I've been told, and powerful cpu), Samsung Galaxy S4(well because it is a Samsung and everybody has one so many developers...)
THREE - Underclock means you lower the frequency of the Cpu (example. it goes from 1.5 Ghz quad-core to 1.1 Ghz quad-core), I like more uncerclock than greenify, and underclocking at 1.1 Ghz in my opinion gives the best performance/battery life/heat ratio. Usage is normal, 1 hour browsing; 1 hour listening to songs (in 3g, even when 4g is available I disable it); 1 hour 9gag and gets at evening with 30-35%...
FOUR - many custom roms for now, and quality is really good, im using currently the 5.1.1 modified and runs pretty good.
FIVE- when you underclock (which I recommend!) you give your device better battery life but also it heats less. If you don't mind the waterproofness then it's better because I wouldn't call Waterproof a really thin bezel of adhesive (They're crazy !!!)
SIX- yeah, they're annoying but anyway you can live with that, and design is really good and would be a shame if you removed them.
So my list woud be;
1.Htc One m7
2.Lg g2
3.Samsung S4 or Xperia Z
(and btw where do you live? maybe i can see smth for you)
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For that price NO! Performance with LP is good, camera not so good even with LP. Didnt have issues with overheating, connectivity is good. Screen and colors looks pretty nice for me.
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Well it seems the camera is not that good as I thought. Do you think moto g 2/3 has better camera? Although they only have 1GB or RAM.
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Well it seems the camera is not that good as I thought. Do you think moto g 2/3 has better camera? Although they only have 1GB or RAM.
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As an XZ owner i would definitely recommend you to go with Moto G2/3. Beside better camera there will be MM support for both the 2gen and 3gen Moto, while not for XZ.
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Well,
ONE - if you want a phone with good Dev community support and with that budget you'll have to take a look at ex-flagship devices, like HTC One M7 (this one remains IMHO one of the best devices ever), LG G2(very good camera from what I've been told, and powerful cpu), Samsung Galaxy S4(well because it is a Samsung and everybody has one so many developers...)
THREE - Underclock means you lower the frequency of the Cpu (example. it goes from 1.5 Ghz quad-core to 1.1 Ghz quad-core), I like more uncerclock than greenify, and underclocking at 1.1 Ghz in my opinion gives the best performance/battery life/heat ratio. Usage is normal, 1 hour browsing; 1 hour listening to songs (in 3g, even when 4g is available I disable it); 1 hour 9gag and gets at evening with 30-35%...
FOUR - many custom roms for now, and quality is really good, im using currently the 5.1.1 modified and runs pretty good.
FIVE- when you underclock (which I recommend!) you give your device better battery life but also it heats less. If you don't mind the waterproofness then it's better because I wouldn't call Waterproof a really thin bezel of adhesive (They're crazy !!!)
SIX- yeah, they're annoying but anyway you can live with that, and design is really good and would be a shame if you removed them.
So my list woud be;
1.Htc One m7
2.Lg g2
3.Samsung S4 or Xperia Z
(and btw where do you live? maybe i can see smth for you)
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It seems the decision is getting harder and harder, although I already bought it because I don't wanna loose the deal. It's not available anymore at this price after buying it. I'm waiting for it to arrive in about two days I'll test it and if it doesn't satisfy me I'll return it.
ONE - Those devices are about $50 more expensive.
THREE - Maybe underclock could do the job, but will it still run smooth at lets say 1.2ghz? Anyway I think for the usage you described the battery doesn't sound that bad.
FOUR - Yeah, I'm looking at the hacking section and I'm stunned
FIVE - well, I'll happily underclock it if it doesn't affect performance too much. Maybe setting to the normal clock when gaming. And for the waterproofness thing... I'm shocked Anyway... I don't mind.
SIX - I guess...
From those devices you mentioned the only one I can afford is the Xperia Z. I really can't pay more than that for a device.
So, do you think I should buy a low end device from this or last year like the moto g 2014? I'm scared of the 1GB of RAM.
I live in Spain and price is a bit high here in Europe. I can buy from Amazon.es/fr/de/it... but I think I only have two options: buy a low-end device with no support from community or an exflagship device with support like the Xperia Z. I also think having 2GB of RAM is important right? I can't spend more than 150€/$160... ad I guess I'm asking too much from a device for this price. I really appreciate your help.
icrunchbanger said:
As an XZ owner i would definitely recommend you to go with Moto G2/3. Beside better camera there will be MM support for both the 2gen and 3gen Moto, while not for XZ.
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Isn't 1GB of RAM too low nowadays?
Akinaro said:
Buying today XZ is stupid... seriously.
When I bought my XZ price of Z1compact was almost the same and it still is, its 20$-30$ difference for most of time(New XZ cost about 180$ z1c 200$)
And for that price you can buy WAY better phones, starting from Galaxy S4 to LG G series. And you want to stick to Sony you can get even z1 or used z2
As far as I love this phone I would not recommend it to anyone, battery is below average, camera is worst than my old Arc S, and those cover flaps are pain in the A##
This is best example of phone that look good, but those small bugs in everyday usage make it annoying to use...
And yes I still use it :] Because after using new phones... I found out that most of them are the same: average battery, and looots of small bugs that make them annoying after some time. So I decide to change phones once per 3-4 years...
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Unfortunately I can't afford those devices. I barely can afford the Xperia Z because I found a good deal.
MultiPDev said:
Isn't 1GB of RAM too low nowadays?
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It all depends of usage but i wouldn't worry about it so much. Motorola comes with almost pure Android.
icrunchbanger said:
It all depends of usage but i wouldn't worry about it so much. Motorola comes with almost pure Android.
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Thanks, I'm considering the moto g 2.
MultiPDev said:
Thanks, I'm considering the moto g 2.
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Moto G (2nd generation) doesn't stand a chance to Xperia Z!
XZ has better specs, better screen, better CPU, more Ram, more internal memory ecc.
Yes, the Moto G (2nd generation) is being updated to Marshmallow but really with all the support from the Dev's we can still get unofficial AOSP Marshmallow Roms.
PS.: one more thing, I currently live in Italy and in big cities it is really easy to find used phones from people that sell them at a local website. I've been checking the prices for some time because I wanted to get a better phone and phones like the LG G3 go as low as 200 euro. Htc One M7 can be found for 150 euro in really good condition, one thing is that you don't have warranty, only if they give you the bill of the phone, then it is as you had bought it(be careful though not giving you a printed bill from the internet.) if you can live with that, that would get you a really good phone with low money.
aaronkatrini said:
Moto G (2nd generation) doesn't stand a chance to Xperia Z!
XZ has better specs, better screen, better CPU, more Ram, more internal memory ecc.
Yes, the Moto G (2nd generation) is being updated to Marshmallow but really with all the support from the Dev's we can still get unofficial AOSP Marshmallow Roms.
PS.: one more thing, I currently live in Italy and in big cities it is really easy to find used phones from people that sell them at a local website. I've been checking the prices for some time because I wanted to get a better phone and phones like the LG G3 go as low as 200 euro. Htc One M7 can be found for 150 euro in really good condition, one thing is that you don't have warranty, only if they give you the bill of the phone, then it is as you had bought it(be careful though not giving you a printed bill from the internet.) if you can live with that, that would get you a really good phone with low money.
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Yeah, XZ specs are really impressive for me, but the problems mentioned worry me. The screen seems a bit poor to me from what I read. Maybe the Moto G has a better screen and battery(camera also? I doubt it). Anyway... the XZ is on its way and I can't wait to test it!!!
The biggest problem I have with buying a used phone from people is, aside from the warranty- which is also important, the fact that I can't return it if it doesn't satisfy me. Thank God for Amazon!! lol :victory:
Hey what about speakers sound?
Yeah amazon has its benefits.
Sound speakers? Hah! That tiny little thing that barely makes a sound? ?
aaronkatrini said:
Yeah amazon has its benefits.
Sound speakers? Hah! That tiny little thing that barely makes a sound? ��
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Disappointing. It seems the device has lots of flaws.
MultiPDev said:
Unfortunately I can't afford those devices. I barely can afford the Xperia Z because I found a good deal.
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In that case welcome to the club
icrunchbanger said:
In that case welcome to the club
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Thanks buddy I hope I stay here for long
aaronkatrini said:
What can I say...
FIRST- if you're buying it for $100 or less maybe it is till a good deal, otherwise maybe it is better to see at other low-to-mid-range
SECOND- yes, the performance is good, even better with lollipop, screen looks better now (maybe sonybravia got better, maybe because lollipop has more white in it and the white is being displayed better), but anyway you have to UNDERCLOCK it in order to get a decent battery life
THIRD- battery life is very disappointing, you HAVE to underclock it and root it and greenify it to get any good battery life, unless you can charge it every 12 hours
FOURTH - the device is getting older and so the interest in this device (im talking about support from devs)
FIFTH - the phone gets hot, like really really hot when you're using it playing games (unless you underclock it), and since the back cover is only a adhesive line, when it gets hotter with the help off the Nfc antenna (which is set to push against the backcover) the backcover gets up and looses its waterproofness
SIX- the flaps - the damn flaps- they're everywhere - and you need to open them every-time you charge the phone, put on the headphones, remove the sim, remove the microSD, and they tend to get loose with time especially the one of the charger since you need to charge it frequently
NOW... that I told you about it downsides, its not a bad phone nowdays, it has a big and very beautiful display, connectivity is like the best i've ever tried, performance is pretty good (cpu + gpu ), camera performs really well - especially in macro, dev support for now is good.
Overall for someone who has it I think it can take another one or two years, but I personally would not buy it unless I find it for cheap or cannot buy a used phone. Personally I would look into a HTC M8 or a LG G3, maybe even used.
You decide
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in my country a NEW xperia z costs around 280-300 euro, i think people still prefer it