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[Q] Rooting MJ5

I am new to android with the Galaxy Note 3 so I apologize for any ignorance in my thread. I have been reading the XDA forums for AT&T Note 3 root methods and I am getting discouraged as it seems that since the MJ5 OTA update all methods dont work. I have also been reading about Kingo and how they are "mining" IMEI and Serial numbers. I am not sure that it matters to me but I am a little paranoid that my "Social Security Number" of my cell phone could be mined and used for evil purposes.
Basically I want to root to
Get rid of all the ATT/Sammy Bloatware
Use tasker to its full potential
add other apps to Pen window
I hope i don't sound like too much of a n00b but I appreciate any assistance any of the great XDA dev's can provide (I have learned a lot about android just reading the forums).

jellis98 said:
I am new to android with the Galaxy Note 3 so I apologize for any ignorance in my thread. I have been reading the XDA forums for AT&T Note 3 root methods and I am getting discouraged as it seems that since the MJ5 OTA update all methods dont work. I have also been reading about Kingo and how they are "mining" IMEI and Serial numbers. I am not sure that it matters to me but I am a little paranoid that my "Social Security Number" of my cell phone could be mined and used for evil purposes.
Basically I want to root to
Get rid of all the ATT/Sammy Bloatware
Use tasker to its full potential
add other apps to Pen window
I hope i don't sound like too much of a n00b but I appreciate any assistance any of the great XDA dev's can provide (I have learned a lot about android just reading the forums).
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Basically you have 2 options... You can either root with Kingo, or you won't have root at all. They seem to stand beside they don't send your IMEI out for bad reasons, but that's totally up to you. Many have rooted with Kingo and so far no complaints that I know of.

It worked for me...No problems

Agent said:
Basically you have 2 options... You can either root with Kingo, or you won't have root at all. They seem to stand beside they don't send your IMEI out for bad reasons, but that's totally up to you. Many have rooted with Kingo and so far no complaints that I know of.
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Do you know if any one is working on a non-toolkit method for rooting?
In general are the XDA devs Ok with Kingo since they came out and publically apologized for the IMEI nonsense and promised to remove it in v2
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I used kingo. Working fine
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jellis98 said:
I am new to android with the Galaxy Note 3 so I apologize for any ignorance in my thread. I have been reading the XDA forums for AT&T Note 3 root methods and I am getting discouraged as it seems that since the MJ5 OTA update all methods dont work. I have also been reading about Kingo and how they are "mining" IMEI and Serial numbers. I am not sure that it matters to me but I am a little paranoid that my "Social Security Number" of my cell phone could be mined and used for evil purposes.
Basically I want to root to
Get rid of all the ATT/Sammy Bloatware
Use tasker to its full potential
add other apps to Pen window
I hope i don't sound like too much of a n00b but I appreciate any assistance any of the great XDA dev's can provide (I have learned a lot about android just reading the forums).
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Basically you have 2 options... You can either root with Kingo, or you won't have root at all. They seem to stand beside they don't send your IMEI out for bad reasons, but that's totally up to you. Many have rooted with Kingo and so far no complaints that I know of.

blopez24 said:
I used kingo. Working fine
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Did it trip Knox?

jellis98 said:
Did it trip Knox?
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Kingo does not trip knox... I have it on my 900A right now..

Solarenemy68 said:
Kingo does not trip knox... I have it on my 900A right now..
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Ok so I downloaded Kingo Root 1.1.5 and its asking me to put the phone in USB Debug mode but its telling me to select my OS which is 4.3 and it only gives me choices for 4.2.2
Nevermind got usb debug mode

Well I went the Kingo Method .... It worked and did NOT trip knox.
Now I am off to start tinkering!!
Anyone have any suggestions for things to do with ROOT? I am about to write some Tasker Profiles to disable pattern lock at secure locations.

DeBloat your tab S (with or without root!!!!)

This tool will allow you to remove the Bloatware from your tab S, it works if your rooted or not. I have used this tool on my Verizon note 4 and my Verizon tab S without problem. THIS IS NOT MY WORK! the developer is "gatesjunior" here on XDA, please thank him if you use it.http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294

What about knix? Is it safe?

No it does not trip knox, since it is only Disabling the app not removing it. You can also use it to disable updates and knox itself.

droid fetish said:
No it does not trip knox, since it is only Disabling the app not removing it. You can also use it to disable updates and knox itself.
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Oh it is disabling apps? So it isn't debloating since no apps are being removed from the device. we can freeze/disable apps through the app manager...

You cannot disable some apps. Using the app. Manager, such as Samsung apps. And some verizon apps. You cannot disabled Knox using the app. Manager. You can with this tool, that is why we are so lucky to have devs. Like gatesjunior.
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droid fetish said:
You cannot disable some apps. Using the app. Manager, such as Samsung apps. And some verizon apps. You cannot disabled Knox using the app. Manager. You can with this tool, that is why we are so lucky to have devs. Like gatesjunior.
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Oh that's good to know, thanks for sharing it mate.

Would be awesome to know what each app does and if it's safe to freeze. There are so many apk's that show up on the list.
I know many are safe to freeze, but it might hinder some other process.

Just do what I did, I froze the same ones that I froze on my note 4, then the ones that were in question I just disabled one at a time using my tablet for a while to make sure nothing was screwy. Like I said you can always do a factory reset to set everything back to the defaults in case you Bork it, it's pretty much foolproof. That being said please no one prove me wrong! Lol!
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Also you can always Google processes to see what they do
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cjw_101 said:
Would be awesome to know what each app does and if it's safe to freeze. There are so many apk's that show up on the list.
I know many are safe to freeze, but it might hinder some other process.
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For your question you have this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/help/list-bloated-apps-to-uninstall-sm-t700-t2861180
I love this program
I had to unroot my device because some apps did not run. Now, with the use of debloater (and the above link) I can do what I basicly did with Titanium BU.

droid fetish said:
This tool will allow you to remove the Bloatware from your tab S, it works if your rooted or not. I have used this tool on my Verizon note 4 and my Verizon tab S without problem. THIS IS NOT MY WORK! the developer is "gatesjunior" here on XDA, please thank him if you use it.http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
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Will it give me the ability to also REMOVE the apps without root?
Thanks!

Some apps can't be removed without root, but you can freeze them so that they cannot use system resources.
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Will disabling apps help with battery life? I don't have much problem with lag but I would like to extend batter life

In theory, it should. what I mean is disabling an app that you never used will do nothing for battery, but if you disable say, a Samsung app such as Knox or a Samsung app updater, keeping it from using system resources you should see improvement . The problem with comparing battery stats is you would have to use your tablet in the same area using the same apps for the same amount of time every day. That's why you see some user's of custom Roms saying battery life sucks while others say that it's great, apple's to apple's and so on .
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Ok I just wanted to say that this tool is really worth it if you don't want to root (lost of warranty). It is possible to disable a lot of crap, hence more free RAM. I froze more than 100 so called apps and my RAM is around 1.2GB with 0 active applications. I also froze all the apps related to knox and I do feel the tablet is faster. It did not trip Knox.
Actually I wonder if it might be a way to bypass Knox to root, install a custom recovery and so on... If someone wants to root his tablet anyway (no care about the warranty), it would be great to try to freeze Knox first to see if it works. I'm sure it would help the community a lot !

bibihub said:
Ok I just wanted to say that this tool is really worth it if you don't want to root (lost of warranty). It is possible to disable a lot of crap, hence more free RAM. I froze more than 100 so called apps and my RAM is around 1.2GB with 0 active applications. I also froze all the apps related to knox and I do feel the tablet is faster. It did not trip Knox.
Actually I wonder if it might be a way to bypass Knox to root, install a custom recovery and so on... If someone wants to root his tablet anyway (no care about the warranty), it would be great to try to freeze Knox first to see if it works. I'm sure it would help the community a lot !
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So far to the best of my knowledge reading about Knox on other devices, you cannot root with blowing the efuse (Knox). It's irreversible once blown.

Hi ! Did anyone try this tool with the new update 5.0.2 ? My tablet runs very smoothly when disabling all that bloatware and I don't want to be stuck on Lollipop with that crap.

OK so I did the test and it doesn't work anymore with lollipop. But the developer is working on an update

droid fetish said:
This tool will allow you to remove the Bloatware from your tab S, it works if your rooted or not. I have used this tool on my Verizon note 4 and my Verizon tab S without problem. THIS IS NOT MY WORK! the developer is "gatesjunior" here on XDA, please thank him if you use it.http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
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Ok, help it dont work for me?
Tab S 8.4, T707A, 4.4.2, AT&T LTE,
Loaded driver, V1.5.45, Win 7, plug it in and I can access the Tab internal and external drives,
When I launch debloater, the Tab will not connect, any ideas?
I tried launching with Tab S plugged in USB, and launch app then plug in Tab

Did you enable USB debugging in developers options (after tapping 7 times on build number in "about device")

[Q] Should I root or not

Ok so I just switched from an iPhone 6 plus to the note 4 and I love it but I keep seeing all the post about rooting and I don't know if it's for me I have jailbroken my iPhone before but I see so many different stuff like roms and am kind of lost and don't know where I would start and what to choose what's the difference between them and if it's even worth it any info and comments would be appreciated. Thanks

Dude, if you have a brain in your head. And a computer or laptop at home. WHAT are you waiting for??! Rooting and custom roms are always going to be my sht lol. Thus why when I get my laptop I am rooting right away. And start to learn to code android with a bunch of programs. Eventually i will bring out a rom myself. It's all about the love for the "sport". Only reason I haven't rooted is because the current computer I have sucks so bad, so slow. But once this taxes come in baby its on!

I haven't found the need to root just yet. If Lollipop releases before the official T-Mobile release, then may-be.

no... simple

But I still don't know why I should root and I I was going to root which one should I use and what does it mean when I see people are rooted and then they flash roms or something I don't want to brick my phone and will I still be able to jump because I hear that it will show that it's been rooted or something about Knox?
twe90kid said:
no... simple
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The need to root should come before doing it. If you don't know what you're doing it for then you don't need it.

bigpapa2001 said:
But I still don't know why I should root and I I was going to root which one should I use and what does it mean when I see people are rooted and then they flash roms or something I don't want to brick my phone and will I still be able to jump because I hear that it will show that it's been rooted or something about Knox?
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Based on your questions, you have ALOT of reading up to do before you should even attempt to root..Its super easy, but until you know what you are doing, and how to recover in case something goes wrong, don't be in a hurry to do anything...

Start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2903733

I'd recommend firekat for your first rom. I'm switching to some version of cm12 today, but you can work on that later when you are more comfortable with Odin and team win recovery.

I guess my main question is what can I do if I root that I can't do unrooted. I have unrooted a phone before thanks to this forum and the help users provided. I wouldn't do anything until I read and was sure of what I was doing but the curiosity has me thinking of doing it and as I read the post on these forums like everyone and their mother is rooted.

You won't brick. These phones are hard to brick. Just follow the instructions. They don't check if Knox is tripped to jump.

Ad blockers like adfree and adaway are big reasons for me. Makes it so you can use free apps without suffering through the ads. It's most important for me with free games and the CNN app:

You can see in that same picture cachemate. Using it and other cleaners requires root access.

Sd maid is another cleaner that needs root access to be fully functional. In the picture you can also see root browser which let's you see more of the phone than my files:

Titanium backup let's you remove the Tmobile bloat:
It requires root access.

Android_Monsters said:
You can see in that same picture cachemate. Using it and other cleaners requires root access.
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you should stop advertising root to him.. LOL

Free tethering.

Ok well so far the only thing I would do it for would be for the hotspot what else could I benefit from and thanks for all the comments and info
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Why would you say that?
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Why would you say that
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I have tripped my knox

I happen to have bought the at&t s6 which couldn't work in my environ. I gave it to a fool who rooted some way so I could use a different carrier. Then I tried to activate my knox and the phone went into a boot loop. I had to do a reset. After several in depth online analysis.i knew I was f***ed. My problem is this..
1. How do I get my knox to work again
2. How do i install the new android m. If it's an ota or custom.
Please note am a newbie but I understand a bit of the terminologies. Keep it really straight forward. Thank you all.
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1. You don't.
2. No one knows just yet...

samson007 said:
I happen to have bought the at&t s6 which couldn't work in my environ. I gave it to a fool who rooted some way so I could use a different carrier. Then I tried to activate my knox and the phone went into a boot loop. I had to do a reset. After several in depth online analysis.i knew I was f***ed. My problem is this..
1. How do I get my knox to work again
2. How do i install the new android m. If it's an ota or custom.
Please note am a newbie but I understand a bit of the terminologies. Keep it really straight forward. Thank you all.
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Are you sure your Knox bit is tripped? It sounds like you are now on a custom ROM. It's my understanding that Knox will not work on custom roms (I haven't personally tried it) even though the Knox warranty bit is still 0x0. Get the "phone info Samsung" app on the play store to check Knox status.
If your Knox bit is tripped (not 0x0) it is tripped permanently. If not, flash a stock ROM in Odin to use Knox again. Of course it sounds like you need a custom ROM to use the phone, so that may not help you.

Samsung and other evil company's are retard support one plus 2 to set the world free from slavery i will never buy Samsung or apple for the rest of life

tazaga said:
Samsung and other evil company's are retard support one plus 2 to set the world free from slavery i will never buy Samsung or apple for the rest of life
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No thanks, to many compromises. I use NFC a lot, and quick charging.
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Root without tripping knox.

So as we all know if you root your device it troops knox which than breaks samsung pay. I know ir was done on the s6. I b was wondering if there is any news about rooting note5 n able to keep samsung pay?.
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egren58 said:
So as we all know if you root your device it troops knox which than breaks samsung pay. I know ir was done on the s6. I b was wondering if there is any news about rooting note5 n able to keep samsung pay?.
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Really hoping for this too. I'm on verizon so no chance of root unless there's a way to do it without tripping KNOX.

Any android phone without root is a battery drainer.

K.0.0.L. said:
Any android phone without root is a battery drainer.
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That has got to be the silliest (and most incorrect) thing I've seen posted on XDA in 9 years. Oh, wait.. no.. there was something sillier. I remember when someone suggested that Samsung was going to be developer-friendly.

My Samsung Tablet non rooted says it currently has 18 days left on the battery. It has been on for 3 days. I use it for games at night. Not a phone but ehh close enough

garyd9 said:
That has got to be the silliest (and most incorrect) thing I've seen posted on XDA in 9 years. Oh, wait.. no.. there was something sillier. I remember when someone suggested that Samsung was going to be developer-friendly.
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Fully agree!!!
Go for package disabler pro and you can turn off almost any process on your puppy...

garyd9 said:
That has got to be the silliest (and most incorrect) thing I've seen posted on XDA in 9 years. Oh, wait.. no.. there was something sillier. I remember when someone suggested that Samsung was going to be developer-friendly.
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I'm speaking from experience. Of course, everyone has its own opinion.

I think we are distracted from the topic.

i am also a note 5 user, and up until now, i haven't rooted it. i don't know why i don't carry that enthusiasm when i got the phone, unlike when i owned the Note 3 and note 4. maybe because my note 5 is already buttery smooth, or i am afraid to root it now since i can't find any safer way to root it, or maybe i am just being confused of the way we root it now. anyhow, when i was using the note 3, i also have the problem with s-health not working when i rooted note 3. so what i did was, i rooted the damn phone anyway, installed system app mover, backed up s-health applications, then move it off to system app to user application. rebooted the phone and open s-health, well what do you know? it worked. but i don't tried this on samsung pay since i don't have it on my phone, because of our region. anyway, try that solution maybe it will work for you, and if it worked, just keep in my mind that there will be no guarantee about your samsung pay security.
good luck.

Is there a way to get temporary root so it then won't trip knox?

I work at Samsung UK and rooting is possible to do, but I would make sure you find someone who has already done it. It is not just Samsung Pay that stops working, most Banking apps will stop working also as it won't be able to authenticate your device. You will also Void your Samsung Warranty.
Proceed carefully.

wra01 said:
I work at Samsung UK and rooting is possible to do, but I would make sure you find someone who has already done it. It is not just Samsung Pay that stops working, most Banking apps will stop working also as it won't be able to authenticate your device. You will also Void your Samsung Warranty.
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I don't mean to be rude (it happens naturally without any effort whatsoever), but what is the purpose of this post? To warn people against rooting, or to suggest that it's possible to root without tripping KNOX?
If the former, that's pretty much a given (and the community has found ways around many of those issues.) If the latter, your post could be considered by many to be a troll without giving real information.

I'd donate for a root on my note 5 that doesnt trip knox.

Yeah I'll pay for this to I'll set down $30 to whoever can get this and prove it and what not.

plz
Get me a root that doesent trip knox coz my name...

Has this been done yet?
WARNING: YOU WILL LOSE ALL OF YOUR DATA SO MAKE SURE YOU BACKUP ANY IMPORTANT FILES
I found a way to root without tripping Knox. Well, kinda. Root as normal (yes you will trip Knox) install twrp, and use twrp to wipe all partitions (except the recovery partition of course), and then re-install the stock files with Odin and flash the super su binary with TWRP BEFORE BOOTING INTO ANDROID the results should be a rooted Note 5 with a Knox counter of 0 no one try this just yet, but I'm 90% sure that's how I did it before. Once I get home from vacation I'll double check and write up a more detailed guide. :good:

ThePhxRises said:
... Root as normal (yes you will trip Knox) install twrp...
... the results should be a rooted Note 5 with a Knox counter of 0
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KNOX will still be tripped. There's no known way to "untrip" knox. It's like a fuse. Even if it doesn't show as modified inside of android's settings, it will still show in ODIN mode.

garyd9 said:
KNOX will still be tripped. There's no known way to "untrip" knox. It's like a fuse. Even if it doesn't show as modified inside of android's settings, it will still show in ODIN mode.
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I've done this before, works fine for me, as far as Samsung pay goes it still works

ThePhxRises said:
I've done this before, works fine for me, as far as Samsung pay goes it still works
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Sure. Okay.

garyd9 said:
Sure. Okay.
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Whether or not it logically should work doesn't really matter, all that matters is it has worked for me in the past. Maybe it was just a random occurrence, but as soon as I have the chance I'll see if I can recreate the results