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Problem charging

One of my Tilts suddenly won't charge on some chargers:
HTC AC charger - OK
USB to PC - charge and sync OK
HTC compatible car charger - no charge
Blackberry AC charger - no charge
My second Tilt is OK on all four chargers (as expected).
I am suspecting a problem with the usb connector but looking for a reason why some chargers work and others don't.
Any insights would be appreciated.
Thanks

I saw a few weeks back a thread on this very forum that examines this problem in detail -- keep searching

Problem Charging
I think I 've read everything relevant. I am looking for someone who has h/w insight into the Kaiser charging scenarios. I suspect mini-usb damage.
I am somewhat familiar with HTC's pin 4-5 implementation to detect a true charger as opposed to a usb connection that can also apply power.
I want to eliminate software possibilities.
How can a Kaiser charge from an HTC AC charger and also charge from a USB connection to a PC....but not recognize a car charger or a third party AC charger that does not implememt the pin 4-5 grounding technique to identify a charger (and not a generic USB connection).
That is where I am lost.
Looking for "inside-out" knowledge...not "outside-in", if you catch my drift.

charging problems
If the car charger worked before, you can do an easy test. Just put in the car charger and do a soft reset. If it starts charging than, its only a software issue. I did a modification on a charger myself. Because I have different chargers using a normal USB cable, my device didn't charge alway as well. I modified a standard miniUSB cable by connecting the 5th pin to ground. When I use this cable for charging I never have a problem anymore. Succes.
xboomer55 said:
I think I 've read everything relevant. I am looking for someone who has h/w insight into the Kaiser charging scenarios. I suspect mini-usb damage.
I am somewhat familiar with HTC's pin 4-5 implementation to detect a true charger as opposed to a usb connection that can also apply power.
I want to eliminate software possibilities.
How can a Kaiser charge from an HTC AC charger and also charge from a USB connection to a PC....but not recognize a car charger or a third party AC charger that does not implememt the pin 4-5 grounding technique to identify a charger (and not a generic USB connection).
That is where I am lost.
Looking for "inside-out" knowledge...not "outside-in", if you catch my drift.
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xboomer55 said:
One of my Tilts suddenly won't charge on some chargers:
HTC AC charger - OK
USB to PC - charge and sync OK
HTC compatible car charger - no charge
Blackberry AC charger - no charge
My second Tilt is OK on all four chargers (as expected).
I am suspecting a problem with the usb connector but looking for a reason why some chargers work and others don't.
Any insights would be appreciated.
Thanks
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I had exactly the same problem after I tried to re-set my device by poking the stylus in the mini-usb port instead of the re-set hole (tryng to do three things at once!). The port was mangled, and once i'd pushed it all back it wouldn't take a charge from the genric car charger. I bought an HTC branded car charger and it charges as good as a wall adapter.
I imagine that your suspicion of USB port damage is correct.

Kaiser Won't charge,except with a car charger

HI Guys
I have a Tytn II and recently I went abroad, and the phone said MM#6 phone not allowed.
Now I'm back in my home country, but now my phone will not charger from any charger ( I have tried more than 1), however it will charge ok using a car charger.
If I plug it into the PC , it does not detect the phone, I done a hard reset, and that didn't fix it.
Can anyone help me with this problem or any trouble shooting idea's.
Oh and I took the battery out and put it back in.
Thanks

xltsport said:
HI Guys
I have a Tytn II and recently I went abroad, and the phone said MM#6 phone not allowed.
Now I'm back in my home country, but now my phone will not charger from any charger ( I have tried more than 1), however it will charge ok using a car charger.
If I plug it into the PC , it does not detect the phone, I done a hard reset, and that didn't fix it.
Can anyone help me with this problem or any trouble shooting idea's.
Oh and I took the battery out and put it back in.
Thanks
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The PC should charge it regardless if the OS knows what is going on. The phone will just pull the 5V off of the USB and charge the phone. It is not like some other phones (my motorola IDEN i335) that require a PC driver to be installed to charge. There may be something wrong with your PC or cable if it's not charging up. Have you tried wiggling the cable or blowing out the port? I have a few USB cables that require some attention in order to work. Hope that helps.

Hi there, thanks for your help.
I tried several USB cables, and chargers, some HTC chargers and a generic one, but none of them charge the phone up. I've tried wiggling the cable , blown air in it etc.
Its weird as it charges from the car charger no problem at all, just not off the PC , or a normal charger....arghh don't know what to do with it.

xltsport said:
Hi there, thanks for your help.
I tried several USB cables, and chargers, some HTC chargers and a generic one, but none of them charge the phone up. I've tried wiggling the cable , blown air in it etc.
Its weird as it charges from the car charger no problem at all, just not off the PC , or a normal charger....arghh don't know what to do with it.
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it won't charge off of a normal charger either?! Sounds like you have some black magic goin on

Hey there....
Nope wont charge off a normal charger
Wont charge off a USB cable
but WILL charge off a car charger.

Have you checked the HTC website? I was just there on another issue and seem to recall seeing something in the FAQs about this issue.

nope
thanks for the help bud, but that FAQ if for phones that charge off AC adapters but not of usb
mine doesnt charge ofan AC or a USB...ONLY a car charger

Hey there Xlt, What contry did you go to and what country are you from?
If you went to a country with a 220v and your charger only supports 110v you may of damage the charger and the phone with the voltage difference and vice visa.
The car charger may work because it is only coming from a 12v power supply, you could buy a adapter that lets you use the car charger in the home socket and then see if it works to see if it was the volt difference.
Hope that Helps

Will not charger of wall charger.

My 18 month old Tytn is not longer charger via the wall chager or car charge. But strangely it will charge is connected to the PC. I have tried a few different wall chargers including the original one and also test the wall charger on other charge by USB plug devices.
I have done a hard reset and also re-installed the stock rom.
Any other idea's ?

Same strange thing happens to me since 2 weeks.
No Charge with power adapter, tried different modells.
No Charge in car
But Charge via USB from PC . And Activesync works...
Any Idea would be very helpful.

tytn2user said:
My 18 month old Tytn is not longer charger via the wall chager or car charge. But strangely it will charge is connected to the PC. I have tried a few different wall chargers including the original one and also test the wall charger on other charge by USB plug devices.
I have done a hard reset and also re-installed the stock rom.
Any other idea's ?
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Same here, no fix, just dealing with it, hoping the charge by usb doesn't crap out.

A few months ago I receive a wallcharger from a friend who had a HTC TOUCH, as I inspected the voltage on my original TYTN II charger and the touch charger I figured out the touch charger would do the job, so I plugged in and for a brief moment the amber light go on, but almost inmediately it went of, so I guess it would not work with my phone.
But I rechecked the voltage and got me thinking what could be wrong, and after messing around a little bit with the charger and the usb plug I found out that for some reason if I plug the usb jack all the way down it doesn't make contact with the phone usb, so I have to plug it half way to make it contact and charge the phone.
Maybe that would be your case.
Good Luck.

in my situation the yellow loading light of the TytnII is even switching on when I connect the power charger . But even after being yellow=loading for a full night .
No Change in battery status
Freecall

My Tilt had a loose Mini-USB connector thing.
:S

OK. After reading people having the same problem I decided to pull mine down and take a look. Expecting to find a blown SM fuse on the circuit board. To my surprise I did not find any SM fuses in that area of the USB plug. While I had it apart I noticed some damage to the USB socket, viewable from the outside without having to pull it apart . I re-assembled the unit and VERY VERY carefully tweaked the damaged pin (pin 1 in my case) with the tiniest sewing needle I could find in the sewing kit. I bent the gold color wire back into a position matching the other 4 and pulled it into a wall charger and it started charging. So the problem in my case was a damaged pin 1 in the USB plug visible from the outside.
Charging is done by the two outside pins.
For the pinouts check out http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml Picture on the left hand side of the screen called MINI is the same as looking at the plug on the tytn from the outside.
While looking at the plug with a magnifier I could clearly see that pin 1 was collapsed into the plastic center part and would not be making contact with the USB charger when inserted.
I will need to take more care when inserting a USB plug from now on and reduce the amount of time I used the plug. I have been geocaching with my TytnII the last few weeks and it has resulted in a lot of plugging in each time when returning to the car. This practice will have to stop for me if I want to get more millage out of my tytnII.

[Q] Whats With Charging This Thing?

When I first got the phone earlier this week, I could plug it into the charger in the wall just fine with no issues, it would just charge. Now suddenly it started telling me USB connected and goes to the MTP screen and of course locks up the phone.
I can of course bypass this by switching the phone to mass storage mode, but since I have Kies and use it occasionally, it would be nice to not have to switch that setting each time depending on my charging/syncing situation.
Why would it have not locked it up with the MTP screen originally when charging from the wall but now it does? The results are the same whether its plugged into the wall or the USB port on the computer. I have two Captivates bought brand new on a family plan, both do this now with any combination of chargers and USB cables, wall USB port, or car charger. Neither one has a common application installed since the other is my girlfriends who hasnt done much to it yet, so Im blaming the phone itself for now...
~T.J.

Interesting. I just checked with my BB charger and they dont do it using that charger, but they do it as soon as I connect the stock charger again.
Im wondering if its a voltage sensing circuit thats tripping due to the different voltages which should be applied - either wall charger or USB port. Maybe for some reason my wall chargers arent putting out enough voltage and its thinking its a USB port, but the BB charger is putting the right amount of voltage out?
Am I on base as to how it differentiates between wall or USB port? The number of pins obviously doesnt matter as all the cables have all the pins in them, unlike some charger cables which only have the power and ground. The only thing I can think of is that it uses the amount of voltage/current to tell the difference and create its reaction.
~T.J.

Sounds like a problem with the stock charger, maybe usb cable alignment. My iphone wall adapter does this with the samsung cable but the samsung wall adapter doesn't, same with my car charger from att. Also I have a $5 walmart car charger that has a cable that splits into both a mini usb and a micro usb that isn't a real usb cable, it's charge only. That cable has no problem on any wall or car adapter. I believe the phone detects if its connected by checking voltage on a data pin (just a guess really) so if a nonstock charger is used it assumes that it is a computer. But it may also be a data signal that is given off by the charger.
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did you try a new charger and if so, did it work? I've had my captivate since Thursday and on Thursday it charged and everything fine, but then yesterday,
a) no computer I connect it to while recognize it, no matter what I have it set too and have latest drivers installed
b) if I charge it, after I unplug it, it locks up to black screen and I have to remove the battery to get it to work
c) I also have an in-dash touchscreen monitor in my car that has a usb port because it works with an ipod. I plugged the usb into to use it as a car charger, unplugged it, same thing
d) it did say usb connected after it was unplugged, but I switched from mass storage to ask on connection and it went away
so is an actual wall charger the solution?
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and now I unplug it, and if it locks, it will not unlock, just black screen
I have to take out the battery and then only way to get it to turn back on, is to plug it back in the wall
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^^^Ouch that's not right, if you can't figure it out you may need to re-flash or just bring it back under warranty, or insurance
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[Q] Z3c won't charge on DK48 dock

So, I have the official Sony DK48 dock for my Z3 Compact (no case). The phone will recognize that it is connected to the dock by giving the notification sound, but the battery will not charge while on it. I've tried wiggling it all sorts of different ways, and tried at least 3 different USB cables, but still no dice.
Is anyone else having this issue?

Have you used original cable? I had this problem with some poor quality cables, they were too thin inside for the designed current

plug it in the mains...

techguyone said:
plug it in the mains...
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With 'mains' you can mean so many things.
I guess you mean plug the cable in an electrical outlet, rather then in a computer. I believe that I had the same issue. (Worked fine in an outlet)

The DK48 will only charge the phone when power comes from the mains. It does not charge the phone when connected to a USB port of a PC or laptop.
Use the original charger and the original cable that came with your phone and the Z3/Z3C should charge just fine in the DK48; that's at least what my does.

Yes all of my attempts occurred while plugging the dock into the AC adapter that came with the phone.

I guess then it seems like its a faulty DK48...
It should work with the original cable, adapter and electric outlet (not a PC).

Why wouldn't the DK48 charge through PC? How does it know? Amperes?

The input from the computer is too low even when you plug the USB to 3.0 port... Unfortunately you MUST use wall charger for the DK48 to be working.

Lazer72 said:
Why wouldn't the DK48 charge through PC? How does it know? Amperes?
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I am a bit late in this thread, but I will post it anyway in case somebody has the same problem. Dk48 won't charge phone while connected to PC, because it checks if data lanes in Micro USB port are used. If they are, charging is stopped. If someone wants to charge phone using dock connected to PC (I for example connect it to my active USB hub, which is connected to my PC) it is necessary to use Micro USB cable, which doesn't use data lanes, just charging ones.
I hope it will help somebody.