Hello everyone,
I switched my 16 months old 4x to CyanogenMod 10.1 about 2 months ago, and updated to 10.1.3 about a week after the release. About a week later, I had my first problems with rapid battery draining. I have switched kernels thrice, now running the most recent optimus prime for CM, and have tried fiddling with the values TricksterMOD provides, but I haven't found a way to get any decent battery life out of the device ever since. Last night, the battery drained 50% in about 12 hours of non-use (phone was left with display off in my jacket pocket, and that's not even the worst drain I witnessed in the last two weeks.
I'm running BetterBatteryStats to get a clue about the origin of this drainage, and can see that my device seems to me awake far too long when I'm not using it. At the moment, I'm looking at 44.6% awake, 55.4% Deep Sleep after 2.5 hours of not using the phone once (I was driving home from work half of the time). In "Kernel Wakelocks", I see "wlan_rx_wake" with 21:03 minutes on top, in "Partial wakelocks", the highest value is 20 seconds for "AlarmManager".
I have the usual suspects of communication/networking apps - Facebook (set to 2hr update), Google+, K-9 Mail, WhatsApp, plus AndroidWeather (set to 30min update) - and news apps which are allowed to send push messages. I use wifi, but no bluetooth. I never watch movies, play games or listen to music with my phone.
I have attached a BetterBatteryStats log from the 50% drain in 12 idle hours I mentioned. View attachment BetterBatteryStats-2013-10-17_092335401.txt
Can anybody give me any pointers as to what I going wrong here? I really would like to use my phone without having to plug in the power supply every few hours. If you need any additional information, I'll gladly try to provide it.
Anyway, thanks in advance for any help.
Cheers, Pit.
only 3 letters. O M G ! this battery report just made me like this face here
u cant flash kernels one after another. there are bugs this way. dont all kernels use the same names for files. leftover files will cause problems. do the whole procedure. go to recovery , format data, reboot to recovery and install new rom
kessaras said:
only 3 letters. O M G ! this battery report just made me like this face here
u cant flash kernels one after another. there are bugs this way. dont all kernels use the same names for files. leftover files will cause problems. do the whole procedure. go to recovery , format data, reboot to recovery and install new rom
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You mean you cant flash Android roms one after another. You can freely flash kernels one after another without wiping anything, Its completely modular.
JoinTheRealms said:
You mean you cant flash Android roms one after another. You can freely flash kernels one after another without wiping anything, Its completely modular.
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then explain his situation... he said he flashed kernels not roms. why does he have such a bad battery drain during night sleep ? in his report i didnt see he has any so "bad" app.... (just asking out of curiosity, its good to have knowledge generally)
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then explain his situation... he said he flashed kernels not roms. why does he have such a bad battery drain during night sleep ? in his report i didnt see he has any so "bad" app.... (just asking out of curiosity, its good to have knowledge generally)
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Not sure about the battery drain, it could be caused by a kernel, but its not because hes flashed multiple kernels.
some background:
Android kernels are packaged into boot.img's (these .imgs can be placed in .zips with instructions on how the custom recovery should handle flashing it) Inside a boot.img you will find a zImage (kernel) and a initrd.img (This stands for initial ram disk, its simply a basic file system that the kernel mounts, containing mainly scripts that handle mounting all the necessary partitions etc, then handing control over to Android. )
The boot.img is stored in a emmc partition (/dev/block/mmcblk0p*). When you press the power button, the bootloader is initialized , it then powers on necessary hardware devices, the bootloader than pulls the boot.img from its partition, extracts it and boots the zImage(kernel), which will start initializing less necessary hardware, but mainly mounts the initrd.img and runs the containing instructions.
Bootloader -> Kernel --------------------->
.........................Initrd.img-> ........Android
To move back on track, the zImage and initrd.img only operate within RAM, they only lie in emmc when they are achieved as a boot.img. When you shut your device down, nothing from the kernel persists in the next boot (maybe /proc/last_kmsg ), this is why you dont need to wipe anything on your device between kernel flashes.
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Not sure about the battery drain, it could be caused by a kernel, but it's not because he's flashed multiple kernels.
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Thanks for clarifying that; it saves me some trouble.
Does the BatteryStats log give any indication as to why the phone is awake half of the time?
Cheers, Pit.
Dont know, but maybe O Prime is one of these kernel which hides the xmm baseband wakelock.... that would be the missing awake time in your log
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Dont know, but maybe O Prime is one of these kernel which hides the xmm baseband wakelock.... that would be the missing awake time in your log
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Yep optimus prime hides the baseband wakelock
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OnAir783 said:
Dont know, but maybe O Prime is one of these kernel which hides the xmm baseband wakelock.... that would be the missing awake time in your log
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Is there a different kernel you would recommend I should try out? I selected the OPrime because it claims to be focussing on stability and battery life instead of raw power.
Furthermore, what would the baseband wakelock tell us in terms of how the fast drain happens?
Cheers, Pit.
Hello all,
just to try it one more time: is there any way I can get decent battery life out of CM10.1.3 on my 4x? This is my profile from today, where I unplugged my phone from the charger around 7:30 a.m. and didn't use my phone thereafter until 5:30 p.m. where the phone was down to 38% already (stats taken around 8:30 p.m.) . The governor is set to conservative and the max frequency to 1.1 GHz, which already makes the UI a bit sluggish. The other settings are unchanged from above.
Secondly, if there really is no chance of improvement under CM10.1.3, which ROM (and kernel) would you suggest for my phone, so that I can at least get a full 24 hours of battery life when I'm not using my phone most of the time?
Thanks in advance, Pit.
Format SD card and wipe everything before flashing new ROM. When I say everything I mean : catche - dalvik - format system - format sd card (sd card is 11gb internal memory of device and external sd card is your inserted sd card). Try latest liquid rom i have good battery life with its stock kernel.
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The baseband wakelock is hidden at his kernel
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Try rebooting again after first reboot installing kernel
I'm not sure why but when wiping dalvik and cache the phone has trouble going into sleep
Flash -> wipe cache/dalvik -> Reboot -> Reboot again
Hi everyone,
well, that was a bust. After spending the better part of a day formatting and installing over and over again, I'm now running CarbonRom [20131023] - and having the same battery problems as before.
I tried LiquidSmooth (2.23), but I never got it to work properly; after installing I always got "application someName was teriminated" every few seconds (while the Play Store app was redownloading and reinstalling my apps, but also when I tried to activate SwiftKey, which calls the settings app at one point, which abruptly quits before I can type in anything. I then tried
ParanoidAndroid (3.99, which I didn't like UI-wise)
and SlimBeam (1.9, where the Google apps I downloaded as stated would install fine, but then not appear for some reason - at that point I didn't spend much time trying to fix it, because I was already fed up with it all)
before finally installing CarbomRom, which worked fine. Thus, after downloading my apps, I tried out my battery again. I unplugged the phone, turned the display off, and went shopping for about two hours, touching the phone just once for a few seconds.
The result is again about 30% awake time during these two hours, losing 10% battery in the process (BetterBatteryStat included). That is pretty much unchanged from my experiences with CM10.1.
What am I repeatedly doing wrong that I don't get halfway decent battery runtime out of my 4x (which used to run fine battery-wise for a year when I used the original LG firmware (which had other issues, but could last 36 to 48 hours, depending on usage? As I don't see hordes of 4x owners throwing the device against the wall in frustration, I must do something other don't. But I haven't got the slightest clue what that might be.
I will try PACman (nightly 20131021) next, but if anyone has any pointers, please please help! I'm running out of ideas.
This was my procedure, by the way:
Reboot into CWM
Format system, cache, data, sd card
flashing ROM
Rebooting
after bootup reboot again into CWM
add the Google apps
reboot again
After bootup, reboot again into CWM
just to be sure, reset to factory defaults
reboot, connect with Wifi and Google and start redownloading the other apps
Frustrated greetings, Pit.
Hi again,
PACman is even worse. First off all, the UI is laggy as h*ll; sometimes, it takes more than two seconds for a button touch to be recognized.
That would be somewhat tolerable if the battery life was better. But in 2.5 hours of leaving the device lying idly on my table (display turned off), more than 50% of the time, the phone was active. BetterBatteryStats are again included as an attachment; perhaps someone can find out what the problem is with them. At least, this kernel doesn't hide the xmm_baseband wakelock, though I have no idea what that means whatsoever.
This is getting ridiculous - is there really no way to get the phone to last more than ten hours (doing nothing with it - when I use it even for occasional browsing/e-mail checks, it's way less than that) anymore? Why is no one else having problems on that scale?
Typing this post cost 3% of my battery. And I'm typing it on my computer, not on my phone.
Depressed greetings, Pit.
When i watch your battery stats its your wifi did your try to install then wifi update of demetris? Try then samething with your wifi off i think it would increase slot of your battery
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moneyvirus said:
When i watch your battery stats its your wifi did your try to install then wifi update of demetris? Try then samething with your wifi off i think it would increase slot of your battery.
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Thanks, for the info, I will investigate that, though I haven't found this "wifi update of demetris" on first Google try yet, just recommendations what to do with your WLAN router and PC settings.
But I my second-to-last try - where I was out shopping - the wlan_rx wakelock wasn't the problem, rather the xmm_baseband wakelock, where I still am clueless as to what that means at all. I fear that getting rid of the wlan wakelocks wouldn't help my general problems, just the problems I had at home last night in my last try.
Furthermore, if I can use the phone only by carefully switching off and on wlan manually whenever I leave the house, the phone will become pretty much useless to me. Yesterday alone, I forgot switching wifi back on twice. That way, either notifications would go through mobile data connection or not happen at all.
I will reflash my device again this morning - as the PACman UI lags are unbearable for me - and see what I can do about the wlan drain. I cannot reconfigure all the wifi networks I connect to, as some of them aren't mine to configure.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2425455
Look in the seccond post your will zee a long story but at then and of that story you see 3 zip files flash then then nvida 4.3+ broadcom driver update by cwm dunno if it solves your probleme for me its great
Goodluck
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I don have any problems with liquid rom. Also I flash gaps imidiatly after flashing rom without reboot. Try flashing 4.2.2 android it is better for our prone then 4.3 builds.
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I don have any problems with liquid rom. Also I flash gaps imidiatly after flashing rom without reboot. Try flashing 4.2.2 android it is better for our prone then 4.3 builds.
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I tried that earlier today, and the LiquidSmooth 2.9 (Android 4.2.2) installed fine by your instructions. But it didn't help at all with the battery usage. Phone is running on conservative governor limite to 1 GHz, and I even tried the Broadcom Wifi Update mentioned here earlier (otherwise, I'm on the LS standard kernel).
It all doesn't help, the BetterBatteryStats are still full of wlan wakelocks (even though I switched to static IP as someone mentioned that might help). Result: 10,8% battery drop per hour of leaving the phone with display off on the table.
Before I flash another ROM for the 14th time this weekend, I will collect some results with wifi turned off. Not that that would be a feasible option for me, but I want to get to the bottom of this.
Cheers, Pit.
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I have a problem with my Milestone - it's getting incredibly hot and the battery is draining from completely charged to device shutting itself off in few hours.
I have installed the latest CyanogenMod 7.2.0 RC1 +gapps, wiped everything (data, caches, dalvik) and only logged in with a google account. There are no more apps installed, everything is in stock condition. Memory card is basically empty. I've tried everything - rebooting, wiping everything clean, yet the phone is still running incredibly hot. Even on stock CM7 without any apps installed, the phone is getting hot.
Attaching logcat dumps:
http://pastebin.com/7Qg5TPBL from yesterday (100% charge)
http://pastebin.com/8s4ut5wY from this morning (phone died during the night and I'm charging it) -- Wi-Fi and Data are turned off.
http://pastebin.com/7q11siSD from now - for few hours on idle the battery was down to 60%.
I would appreciate any help.
Thank you.
Switch to 2g or turn off data. Until I can see the log. Some app is persistent on using the Internet connection, I had that but I was really annoyed and uninstalled a lot of applications, and didn't quite know which is responsible but i suspect it was Facebook.
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update,
the logcat can't be seen, some html code instead, don't know if xda or your fault is
Hello.
The phone is in completely wiped condition - no apps are installed, only those that ship with kabaldan's CM7. Data is turned off, not quite sure about 3G.
I edited the OP with working links, it should be okay now.
Thank you for helping!
Another update - the phone does not enter Deep Sleep mode. Since the previous post, the phone has been 8 hours on 250MHz, 1 hour on 400MHz, 31 mins on 1GHz and 11 mins on Deep Sleep, according to CPU Spy. Could it be related?
Check Battery usage graph
Go to Settings -> About Phone -> Battery Use.
Check the battery graph. If you see a sharp drop somewhere, then it might be that your phone's battery is in disrepair. The original battery on my milestone drops from ~70% to 40% within a second and then again drops to 19% in a few hours. The spare battery that I have works well.
Normally when my phone was hot, it was because of the 3g or some app open in background, restart it and enable Airplane mode, if it still hot after a while with the screen off, them try another rom.
If it continues try installing the stock rom with an .sbf and try again.
If it continues, try finding another battery to try, some motorla phones like the dext have the same battery.
If it continues, I dont know, buy a new phone
Go into OR, fufu recommended, and hit fix permissions.
Sorry don't have much time to study your log. This is one of the problem I saw this morning at 5 30 in 10 minutes of reading, it has some permission problems among others or try a reflash (and wipe ext partition also ) .
Post another log after fix if you do this to see if are any changes.
I saw another one also but don't remember now, busy day.
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Go into OR, fufu recommended, and hit fix permissions.
Sorry don't have much time to study your log. This is one of the problem I saw this morning at 5 30 in 10 minutes of reading, it has some permission problems among others or try a reflash (and wipe ext partition also ) .
Post another log after fix if you do this to see if are any changes.
I saw another one also but don't remember now, busy day.
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To be honest, I've never looked through a logcat log before, but I'm seeing a bunch of these in yours:
D/SntpClient( 2091): request time failed: java.net.UnknownHostException: europe.pool.ntp.org
I wonder if simply disabling the 'automatic' option in settings -> date and time would do the trick. That line would keep your data open, and your phone awake, especially with as often as it shows up in your logs.
Hi there. Thank you all for your replies.
For some reason, the issue is gone now, the phone successfully goes to deep sleep and the battery lasts ages again.
I don't know what fixed the issue - the only thing I did is to enable 'use only 2G networks', but it shouldn't make any difference - I disabled the data connection.
Which baseband is the default in Europe?
I can't find permissions fixer in FuFu's OR. Any alternative to that?
I would just use from manager to fix permissions
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I would just use from manager to fix permissions
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I believe that you are talking about ROM manager, but it auto corrected to from
Thank you anyway! It fixed a lot of wrong permissions.
Device: Samsung Galaxy S GT i9000
Symptoms:
When Charging Device is hot to the Touch in the upper half of the screen and on the rear between the camera and the heat vent.
Battery drains at around 15-25% per hour when IDLE. 15% when in deep sleep in airplane mode with ALL APPS KILLED. 25% when I leave ALL network connections open and allow sync.
Phone was new less than 2 months ago. Still under warranty and I will send it back if no ideas come from this but wanted to see if anyone had a solution as I have noticed HUNDREDS of similar posts all vaguely scattered through different threads on different sites around the web and this seems like the definitive place to come to see if anyone can put their finger on it.
When did this occur?:
A short while after (days) of flashing CM9 nightly from the beginning of June (05/06 I think but can't recall exactly).
Tests performed:
Purchased new battery and fully charged - no change.
Flashed stock GB ROMs where the issue had not occured - no change.
Cleared battery stats several times - no change.
Tried different modems/radios including Nexus S radios- no result
Current ROM: CM 7.2
Kernel: Glitch 13.1
Other ROMs/Kernels where the same results were achieved...
CM9 (latest nightlies)
Stock JVU, JVS, JW4 and JW5
Semaphore Kernel, Devils Kernel
I use Voodoo Sound/Colour kernels apart from the testing I did with stock ROMs
Will leave it on over night after clearing stats so you can see for yourselves.
Any questions ask away.
I should add:
Used OS Monitor and one of the more detailed CPU monitors to look at what was going on.
Did not appear at any time to be using what I would consider high CPU utilisation, typically trending between 0 and 30ish. No background apps running, all radios turned off.
The only anomaly that stuck out at me is that system_server was using ~105% of RAM which I would have thought was rather difficult. Made me wonder if there was something loading/unloading itself from RAM.
As I am a heavy music user I have tested the Mediaserver issue where corrupt files are continually scanned by mediaserver process. Removed all media files from both my external and internal storage then formatted both while on a stock ROM (JVU and JW4). There was no change.
EDIT: I should add - The thing that makes this so strange to me is that the battery decreases at a rapid rate when Battery stats regarding usage DO NOT CHANGE. The percentages for the apps that WERE using the battery - i.e. winamp/mediaserver/android system do not change.
The reason I have posted this is that i have seen literally HUNDREDS of people posting this very same issue but never in the same place and never getting an answer.
Also - Thankyou to the kind mod/admin who approved my account so I can edit stuff. It was getting a bit annoying for the first week there.
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Hi,
To be honest I never heard/read of the problem you are describing. Most users report high battery drain on a certain ROM/kernel/modem but you say you have tried quite a lot.
If the phone is new, the only thing that comes to mind is that the USB charging socket is faulty. It may not charge properly or even have some bad connectors that are damaging the battery.
In any case, Samsung support is the way to go here.
Hope this helps
OMG, im having the same exact problem... the phone is super hot on the back where the sim card is inserted. I did everything as you, still no change, my battery lasts like 7 hours on deep sleep. Guess our phone is broken. super crap.
Anyone knows how to fix this? Is there anyway that my phone has some files from previous custom roms even though used odin to flash samsung original ones?
Had the same problem when my device was only 6 months old, the battery was becoming faulty, got a new battery and problem solved.
I bought a new battery and i still have the same problem... which battery did u get?
streakpt said:
I bought a new battery and i still have the same problem... which battery did u get?
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An official samsung battery from Amazon, re flash you device with another rom and wipe battery stats.
Did all that, the problem still continues... mega battery drain and the phone is at 44C degrees... is there any tool i can use to diagnose the problem?
Hi snaleman,
You could try BetterBatteryStats, to help diagnose your issue further, there is a paid version on the market (Google Play Store). There is also a thread on this forum, from the dev....hint
I tried winamp for android, ages ago, but had similar issues. (This player might well be your issue.) So I now use "PowerAmp". Neutron MP is cool too.
Also, do you use lippol94's kernel cleaning script. I use this every kernel/ROM change.
Search here for this:
ultimate_kernel_cleaning_script
Hope this info helps your baby.
Hey
U can try to flash a stock rom from sammmobile.com..
Use it for a few days and check...may help u..
Cheers
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Backup your apps with titanium backup or something else.
Make a backup from CWM recovery
Wipe data/cache/dalvik
Restore user apps and not system app
If your problem is not fixed you can restore your CWM backup
Nothing you guys posted worked... battery lasts 11 hours on sleep...
Another problem that im facing is that when im on a phone call, theres is alot of breaks in the other persons voice and sometimes the voice call goes out and i lose all my network signal.
If you are using the Voodoo sound app that may be the cause. I've noticed on my phone that deep sleep no longer works when the voodoo app is installed, most likely the app is holding a partial wake lock and not releasing it.
See if it happens with the app uninstalled or frozen.
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Signal Strength¿
streakpt said:
Another problem that im facing is that when im on a phone call, theres is alot of breaks in the other persons voice and sometimes the voice call goes out and i lose all my network signal.
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You've just made me think of something else that it may be.
Do you have 4 or 5 bars of signal strength?
I've found when in certain areas (very close to "deadspots" in network reception), that if I use another frequency, [eg. 900 & 2100 (for my network), yours may be different] I can get a better signal, also much better battery life, as the phone is not struggling to reach the network.
If you use your dialer to enter this code
*#*#197328640#*#*
Then
[1] DEBUG SCREEN
THEN
[8] PHONE CONTROL
then
[7] NETWORK CONTROL
then
[2] BAND SELECTION
you will then have a selection of frequencies available. The asterisk * will tell you what one(s) is/are active.
"Google" your network service providers frequency bands. I found mine were on a "Wiki" page.
I know there are countless threads/topics regarding high battery usage re p880, but I didn't want to resurrect an old thread, or hijack someone else's, so if I'm wrong in creating this thread, then I apologise.Can someone please tell me what exactly this service is/does, as it seems to be the biggest problem regarding my lousy battery life.. phone just sees it as android system (pic 3) where as BS+ sees system back up service. As i have backup disabled, this is puzzling me.
Thanks in advance,
Edit: in the time it took to write this message, ive lost 14% in battery, including the time it took to screenshot.
Edit 2: Ah, now im back on PC i can type properly.
been playing around, disabling system backup service, but a new process just gets launched in its place, from key chain, to LocMgrProvider...seems as you disable one, another replaces it, all using same battery. Must i just accept, that the android system is just going to eat my battery?..like cookie monster at the biscuit counter?
If it helps, im running stock 4.0.3, freshly flashed, with F/reset, unrooted.
Thanks in advance, and any help is very much appreciated,
Sun
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SunHounD said:
I know there are countless threads/topics regarding high battery usage re p880, but I didn't want to resurrect an old thread, or hijack someone else's, so if I'm wrong in creating this thread, then I apologise.Can someone please tell me what exactly this service is/does, as it seems to be the biggest problem regarding my lousy battery life.. phone just sees it as android system (pic 3) where as BS+ sees system back up service. As i have backup disabled, this is puzzling me.
Thanks in advance,
Edit: in the time it took to write this message, ive lost 14% in battery, including the time it took to screenshot.
Edit 2: Ah, now im back on PC i can type properly.
been playing around, disabling system backup service, but a new process just gets launched in its place, from key chain, to LocMgrProvider...seems as you disable one, another replaces it, all using same battery. Must i just accept, that the android system is just going to eat my battery?..like cookie monster at the biscuit counter?
If it helps, im running stock 4.0.3, freshly flashed, with F/reset, unrooted.
Thanks in advance, and any help is very much appreciated,
Sun
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that's... waaaaaay too much. why are you on ICS anyway?
my suggestion is - factory reset from stock recovery (warning: your internal sd card will be fully formatted). in case you don't care about ICS, i strongly suggest JB. if you don't care about voiding warranty, i strongly suggest unlocked bootloader + custom rom and kernel. oh and also, grab better battery stats app, it shows an easier-to-understand overview when compared to apps you used
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that's... waaaaaay too much. why are you on ICS anyway?
my suggestion is - factory reset from stock recovery (warning: your internal sd card will be fully formatted). in case you don't care about ICS, i strongly suggest JB. if you don't care about voiding warranty, i strongly suggest unlocked bootloader + custom rom and kernel. oh and also, grab better battery stats app, it shows an easier-to-understand overview when compared to apps you used
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Thanks for such a quick reply.
I'll tell you the scenario, as quick as i can make it.
had the phone 2 weeks, got it on a 24mnth contract ( i know, sigh)
anyway, updated it to JB (4.1.2?) through LG pc suite, but thought the battery life seemed to be worse, so i downgraded with LG flash tool, to ics.
after a F/reset, i rooted, then F/Reset again, but it seemed sluggish.
the long and short of it is, ive gone up to JB twice, and down to ICS twice, rooted and unrooted twice, disabled a whole HOST of stock bloatware, and am still left with similar results as posted in the pics.
ATM ive a clean ICS and im at a loss as to what to do. ive been reading all the threads about improving battery, culling the bloatware apps etc before i decided to post.
as for bootloader, i will probably do that sometime in the future, when im more knowledgeable on the subject. at present, i dont want to be left with a 2 year contract to a brick
thanks again,
ps: you say better battery stats is better than battery stats plus?...will download now, thanks
Sun
interesting situation. it's strange that sluggishness persisted between factory resets and .dz flashes back to 10x version.
first off, how does the phone behave when you're not using it? is it draining battery bad? is it going into deep sleep? what are the percentages of cpu states (you can check this in better battery stats, as battery stats plus seems to be too clunky for me to read proper info)?
if it's deep sleeping properly, then yeah, the issue is with something sucking up the juice while screen is on. next off, check cpu states - if it's locked at 1.5ghz often, when you have screen on but doing nothing, it's significant info.
what i've noticed with display, you can count up to 3:30 hours of onscreen time with stock rom (this is with very conservative use of wifi and data during this period, and no heavy gaming for example) - that's around 200 minutes of on screen time, meaning you should get around 2 minutes of screen on per 1% of reduction in battery - how far are you from this result?
i hope we manage to get to the bottom of this, but i still recommend unlocking bootloader and flashing custom kernel and/or rom. you can't really brick o4x while unlocking bootloader afaik, and you've done more complex operations when switching from 20a to 10h than bootloader unlock is.
I would go the other way to be honest. If you do a full factory reset, install no apps, no Google account or anything and still get a similar problem with the battery drain then I would take the phone back for replacement as that is abnormal.
No point running a risk with your warranty when might be a hardware fault.
It's midnight here now so can't really test it till.morning now. When phone is in standby, it seems to hold.its juice ok. I'm sat here now, with nothing switched on except WiFi, screen at 23% brightness , and am just using tapatalk and I'm getting 2-3 mins per 1% screen. Less if I play in the menus. First thing tomorrow, I'll reset the phone again, before dl'ing any apps. Then I'll only download BBS and see how I get on. I'll also.monitor battery loss over night.
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after i wrote the above last night, i decided to watch a movie on my phone in bed.(headphones, dont wanna disturb the missus ) and i managed to watch a movie of 2hrs 10 mins, with 23% battery drain, on stock video player, yet just browsing through the phones menus/ light web surfing, eats the juice like crazy.
left phone off charge over night, and didnt even have a 1% drop in 7 hours (wifi off,sync off, data always off(dont use it)) and phone set to 2g mode
Sun
current set up
Right,
I've performed another F/reset, and rooted. Installed TB pro, and uninstalled/frozen a skew of apps/services as listed per the thread in my sig.
Installed better battery stats, charged phone to 100% took off charge, and am just waiting to see how it goes now. Would you recommend using phone as normal while BBS collects its info, or to let the phone alone for a while?
thanks again,
Sun
SunHounD said:
Right,
I've performed another F/reset, and rooted. Installed TB pro, and uninstalled/frozen a skew of apps/services as listed per the thread in my sig.
Installed better battery stats, charged phone to 100% took off charge, and am just waiting to see how it goes now. Would you recommend using phone as normal while BBS collects its info, or to let the phone alone for a while?
thanks again,
Sun
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you can leave it alnoe during night to check if it deep sleeps properly, right now you're interested in cpu states option in bbs, to see if it uses too much cpu when doing normal tasks such as surfing, reading, watching/listening media etc. your goal is to get over 2 mins per 1% drain (in the end, over 3 hours of onscreen time with no heavy gaming). with those stats, your can say that your phone is draining normally, just that lg reports stupid stuff (f.e., stock roms report screen as using 20% of the battery, while in reality screen is using waaay more, the most actually)
Thanks Flying_Bear, I'll refrain from doing any more resets etc for the rest of the day, see how the readings progress and post on that tomorrow, after overnight analysis.
This piece of one of your previous posts just stuck in my mind:
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i hope we manage to get to the bottom of this, but i still recommend unlocking bootloader and flashing custom kernel and/or rom. you can't really brick o4x while unlocking bootloader afaik, and you've done more complex operations when switching from 20a to 10h than bootloader unlock is.
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TBH, from everything I've been reading on it, it kind of scared me off the subject, but to see you say it was less complicated than what I've already done, has got me to thinking.
The biggest thing for me at the minute, before considering that, it to rule out faulty hardware. At least if thats the case, i still have warranty intact.
Is the performance increase really that noticeble after flashing custom kernels/roms?
Thanks again for your time,
Sun
no.
apart from everyone here praising custom roms and kernels, DON'T flash a custom rom, when you are concerned about battery.
the best rom out there regarding battery life is by far a stock rom, be it 4.0.3 or 4.1.2.
the worst thing about the custom roms is WiFi. with stock i was able to let WiFi run through the night with less than 1% loss per hour.
on every custom rom my battery needs at least 5% per hour for WiFi, but most of the time even more. its just not useable.
shortly followed by 3g network, which has a much bigger battery drain than stock, too.
i am on CM and different kernels for some month now and i consider going back to stock, because i want to leave WiFi on in the night, otherwise my phone eats up my 100MB free 3G traffic way too fast.
BUT...
the reason for your battery hungry phone is not the ROM, the kernel or the phone itself.
your battery drain is absolutely absurd for stock ROM and can only be caused by badly programmed apps you have running.
OR:
you have your phone relatively new and play with it EVERY FRICKIN MINUTE, which would be an explanation, too.
you said, you were able to watch a whole 2h movie with only 23% loss, that sounds like the stock ROM i know. on custom you would lose around 50% for this. but when your phone loses battery when you "play with the launcher", you maybe have installed a 3rd party launcher, that eats your power, are using facebook/skype/whatsapp/(insert any other badly coded program, that has no push mode), or have just fiddled with the developer settings a bit too much.
Because you noticed your battery drain with 4.1.2, too, then i suspect a badly coded app. these are the reason for nearly every battery drain (and the reason for wakelocks, too) apart from bad drivers in custom kernels, like the WiFi desaster all the custom rom users have here.
I think the only reason I would consider custom roms, is a performance increase.... If it wont give me one, then I see no point in going down that route.
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i am on CM and different kernels for some month now and i consider going back to stock, because i want to leave WiFi on in the night, otherwise my phone eats up my 100MB free 3G traffic way too fast.
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Totally agree, its why I refuse to enable data in the first place.
the reason for your battery hungry phone is not the ROM, the kernel or the phone itself.
your battery drain is absolutely absurd for stock ROM and can only be caused by badly programmed apps you have running.
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when I took the original screenies, in OP, I didnt really have much in the way of apps on it. I'd not long before done a clean flash, then removed some of the bloatware that came with it.
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you have your phone relatively new and play with it EVERY FRICKIN MINUTE, which would be an explanation, too.
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At first yes... hey it was a new toy at the time. Novelty wore off about day 3 though.
you said, you were able to watch a whole 2h movie with only 23% loss, that sounds like the stock ROM i know. on custom you would lose around 50% for this. but when your phone loses battery when you "play with the launcher", you maybe have installed a 3rd party launcher, that eats your power, are using facebook/skype/whatsapp/(insert any other badly coded program, that has no push mode), or have just fiddled with the developer settings a bit too much.
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yeah, it handled a movie quite well, I was quite pleased with this. When i said messing with the menu, I just meant exploring the phone; no custom/3rd party launchers, no messing with Dev stuff.
At the minute now, the only extra apps on my phone are XDA Dev app, tapatalk4, BBS, TB-pro and root uninstaller pro.
Oh, and can I ask.... aside form the ability to "pimp" your phone out, or the extra customization, is there any benefit to flashing custom roms? As it cant be for better performance....
thanks
Sun
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no.
apart from everyone here praising custom roms and kernels, DON'T flash a custom rom, when you are concerned about battery.
the best rom out there regarding battery life is by far a stock rom, be it 4.0.3 or 4.1.2.
the worst thing about the custom roms is WiFi. with stock i was able to let WiFi run through the night with less than 1% loss per hour.
on every custom rom my battery needs at least 5% per hour for WiFi, but most of the time even more. its just not useable.
shortly followed by 3g network, which has a much bigger battery drain than stock, too.
i am on CM and different kernels for some month now and i consider going back to stock, because i want to leave WiFi on in the night, otherwise my phone eats up my 100MB free 3G traffic way too fast.
BUT...
the reason for your battery hungry phone is not the ROM, the kernel or the phone itself.
your battery drain is absolutely absurd for stock ROM and can only be caused by badly programmed apps you have running.
OR:
you have your phone relatively new and play with it EVERY FRICKIN MINUTE, which would be an explanation, too.
you said, you were able to watch a whole 2h movie with only 23% loss, that sounds like the stock ROM i know. on custom you would lose around 50% for this. but when your phone loses battery when you "play with the launcher", you maybe have installed a 3rd party launcher, that eats your power, are using facebook/skype/whatsapp/(insert any other badly coded program, that has no push mode), or have just fiddled with the developer settings a bit too much.
Because you noticed your battery drain with 4.1.2, too, then i suspect a badly coded app. these are the reason for nearly every battery drain (and the reason for wakelocks, too) apart from bad drivers in custom kernels, like the WiFi desaster all the custom rom users have here.
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yeah wifi can drain too much, but i had almost same stats on custom as on stock - 3-4% per hour if wifi is left on, with sync on and push notifications and blabla. you've got things going great if you have 1% per hour with wifi on.
lg has crammed up a whole lot of **** inside their stock rom - apart from useful stuff like proper mhl drivers, quickmemo, nice gallery & video apps, it's bloated to hell - mlt logging, ****ty launcher (imo), widgets that only work on stock launcher, "smart log service", RIDICULOUS throttling etc). you can root and uninstall most of these, but even then you might not get what you're looking for.
my best onscreen time on stock 4.1.2 20a/20b was 3 hours 3 minutes. that's with conservative use of wifi, 3g and almost no gaming. on custom rom & kernel, today i pumped out 3 hours 37 minutes, and was on 17% battery, when i plugged it in in order to recharge it. that was an obvious increase for me (keep in mind there were custom rom/kernel combinations that had me pulling barely 2 hours onscreen time).
you need unlocked bootloader for custom kernels, and say what you say but proper kernels ARE battery savers and performance enhancers. stock kernel has for some people insane issues with baseband_xmm wakelock (for me it was rediculous, 6% per hour drain when not using a phone and no deep sleep at all) and wipes didn't help with that; only custom kernel fixed it. it has RIDICULOUS (for emphasys) throttling effect, slowing your cores down to 1ghz each when battery hits 43 degrees celsius (which for me was around 20 seconds of normal usage on a hot day outside), which leaves you crippled if you're planning on doing any complex action with your phone.
alternative is - unlock bootloader, check custom roms and see if you like'em (Zaiben is f.e. debloated and improved stock, something OP might like, or he can go cm, or carbon or any other if he prefers custom features). if you don't, it's easy to flash a .kdz file back.
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yeah wifi can drain too much, but i had almost same stats on custom as on stock - 3-4% per hour if wifi is left on, with sync on and push notifications and blabla. you've got things going great if you have 1% per hour with wifi on.
lg has crammed up a whole lot of **** inside their stock rom - apart from useful stuff like proper mhl drivers, quickmemo, nice gallery & video apps, it's bloated to hell - mlt logging, ****ty launcher (imo), widgets that only work on stock launcher, "smart log service", RIDICULOUS throttling etc). you can root and uninstall most of these, but even then you might not get what you're looking for.
my best onscreen time on stock 4.1.2 20a/20b was 3 hours 3 minutes. that's with conservative use of wifi, 3g and almost no gaming. on custom rom & kernel, today i pumped out 3 hours 37 minutes, and was on 17% battery, when i plugged it in in order to recharge it. that was an obvious increase for me (keep in mind there were custom rom/kernel combinations that had me pulling barely 2 hours onscreen time).
you need unlocked bootloader for custom kernels, and say what you say but proper kernels ARE battery savers and performance enhancers. stock kernel has for some people insane issues with baseband_xmm wakelock (for me it was rediculous, 6% per hour drain when not using a phone and no deep sleep at all) and wipes didn't help with that; only custom kernel fixed it. it has RIDICULOUS (for emphasys) throttling effect, slowing your cores down to 1ghz each when battery hits 43 degrees celsius (which for me was around 20 seconds of normal usage on a hot day outside), which leaves you crippled if you're planning on doing any complex action with your phone.
alternative is - unlock bootloader, check custom roms and see if you like'em (Zaiben is f.e. debloated and improved stock, something OP might like, or he can go cm, or carbon or any other if he prefers custom features). if you don't, it's easy to flash a .kdz file back.
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Hi Flying_ Bear, can you pl confirm what combo of rom and kernel is giving you 3 hr 37 min of screen on time and which ones to avoid (ones that gave you 2 hrs)?
Carbon rom 4.2.2 version with iodak v7 had the best onsceen. Id say stock was worst, 2hrs 45mins of onscreen with no gaming and low brightness, with stock kernel
Hello, I've been looking for solutions to this problem for a while now. Basically when my screen is on and system is awake the top part of my screen and backside will heat up to about 50C, it burns on the touch. Betterbatterystats gave a temperature of 52C and avg of 50. Needless to say, my battery also runs out very quickly like this, also dropping about 5% an hour when the screen is off.
Another thing I've noticed is that SDcard takes 25% of my battery usage, and when I go to storage settings, it will infinitely calculate. I mounted my storages and chkdsked them, fixed some corrupted files but the problem still persists. The only storage I haven't mounted is the internal storage, which I'm unable to do. I can't seem to connect to adb from recovery and mounting /data alone does nothing. After about 10 mins of using the phone, it becomes too hot(burns my hand) and it will shut down.
I've replaced 2 batteries so it's very unlikely that it's a battery issue. Also tried other chargers and wiping everything.
Phone OS: 4.1.2 stock LT5 before.
Did factory wipe/dalvik wipe + flash to CM11 4.4.4 and the problem is still present.
Betterbatterystats doesn't indicate a draining app, just high temperature.
Removing the external SD card and sim card had no impact.
I'm getting deep sleep when I turn off the screen, so it's not media scan being stuck. Mediascan disabled and problem still persists.
Pretty much out of ideas here, and hoping that you guys could help me out.
Any help is very much appreciated.
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Hello, I've been looking for solutions to this problem for a while now. Basically when my screen is on and system is awake the top part of my screen and backside will heat up to about 50C, it burns on the touch.....
Pretty much out of ideas here, and hoping that you guys could help me out.
Any help is very much appreciated.
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It's not just you. I experienced the same, as have others, for example see http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note/help/process-bug-kitkat-roms-t2834819.
If you really need Kitkat I suggest Omnirom as it didn't have the heat issues when I most recently tried it out again, about a week or two ago. The other Kitkat ROMs I tried all turned my GT-N7000 into a hand warmer/hot plate, as did some older ROMs. There are good reasons why GT-N7000 is no longer officially supported in CM - really serious bugs with very few people still willing to try to fix them. Otherwise stock Samsung + root works great with no killer bugs and huge battery life Anyone still remember when this device first appeared and it was famous for having longest battery life of any smart phone? Run stock Samsung, rooted or not, and disable all the stuff you don't use, enable the power saving mode and it still is one of the best. Not kewl tho.....:laugh:
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It's not just you. I experienced the same, as have others, for example see http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note/help/process-bug-kitkat-roms-t2834819.
If you really need Kitkat I suggest Omnirom as it didn't have the heat issues when I most recently tried it out again, about a week or two ago. The other Kitkat ROMs I tried all turned my GT-N7000 into a hand warmer/hot plate, as did some older ROMs. There are good reasons why GT-N7000 is no longer officially supported in CM - really serious bugs with very few people still willing to try to fix them. Otherwise stock Samsung + root works great with no killer bugs and huge battery life Anyone still remember when this device first appeared and it was famous for having longest battery life of any smart phone? Run stock Samsung, rooted or not, and disable all the stuff you don't use, enable the power saving mode and it still is one of the best. Not kewl tho.....:laugh:
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Thanks for your response. I wasn't aware of this situation. But I was having this heating problem on Samsung stock firmware 4.1.2 too?
edit: just flashed to omnirom and it's still burning my hand.
In the team win recovery repairing internal storage gives me the error: unable to repair /emmc, so I just wiped it, problem is still there.
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Thanks for your response. I wasn't aware of this situation. But I was having this heating problem on Samsung stock firmware 4.1.2 too?
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The heat comes when the CPU is working at max. This should be quite rare but can occasionally go on for a long time, for example if there is a lot of media content to be indexed. This would usually happen for just a few minutes after booting. Example: I use Archos video player and it indexes 1000s of movies on my home LAN via smb or upnp - this adds some overhead at startup but then settles to zero impact. It can also happen on connection changes as these are a trigger for lots of apps/services to activate/phone home/update profiles or content and so on. You could also experience heavy load on CPU if your 3G connection and/or wifi signals are poor and the device is constantly seeking better signal.
Some stuff you can do:
in stock Samsung enable power save mode - this limits the max CPU state to 1000MHz.
in a rooted custom ROM you can use any of several utilities to do the same.
This makes near enough no difference to normal use but will just throttle back the CPU when it is trying to max out.
You can disable notifications for open wifi networks.
In stock Samsung you can safely disable any of the apps that you don't use.
In rooted custom ROM you can do the same but you also have the ability to disable stuff which you need just to boot to a working environment so be careful.
Disable GPS when you don't need it. Disable bluetooth if you don't need it.
and so on....
If you use an external microSDHC card try it formatted as exfat instead of fat32/vfat. There is a horrible bug with spontaneous unmounting of the extra cards but it works better if they are formatted exfat.
On rooted stock Samsung my Note runs nice and cool and just warms up a bit if I spend hours playing games. It never gets hot like it did with custom ROMS. If I get into a mega brain dead bug eyed game session with sound high and screen on and very bright I get about 6 hours battery life. If I use it a bit more normally I get anything from 10 to 17 hours between battery changes, with screen time between 3 and 6 hours, and that includes using batteries that are a couple of years old. I never even got close to this kind of performance with custom ROMs. YMMV etc.
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The heat comes when the CPU is working at max. This should be quite rare but can occasionally go on for a long time, for example if there is a lot of media content to be indexed. This would usually happen for just a few minutes after booting. Example: I use Archos video player and it indexes 1000s of movies on my home LAN via smb or upnp - this adds some overhead at startup but then settles to zero impact. It can also happen on connection changes as these are a trigger for lots of apps/services to activate/phone home/update profiles or content and so on. You could also experience heavy load on CPU if your 3G connection and/or wifi signals are poor and the device is constantly seeking better signal.
Some stuff you can do:
in stock Samsung enable power save mode - this limits the max CPU state to 1000MHz.
in a rooted custom ROM you can use any of several utilities to do the same.
This makes near enough no difference to normal use but will just throttle back the CPU when it is trying to max out.
You can disable notifications for open wifi networks.
In stock Samsung you can safely disable any of the apps that you don't use.
In rooted custom ROM you can do the same but you also have the ability to disable stuff which you need just to boot to a working environment so be careful.
Disable GPS when you don't need it. Disable bluetooth if you don't need it.
and so on....
If you use an external microSDHC card try it formatted as exfat instead of fat32/vfat. There is a horrible bug with spontaneous unmounting of the extra cards but it works better if they are formatted exfat.
On rooted stock Samsung my Note runs nice and cool and just warms up a bit if I spend hours playing games. It never gets hot like it did with custom ROMS. If I get into a mega brain dead bug eyed game session with sound high and screen on and very bright I get about 6 hours battery life. If I use it a bit more normally I get anything from 10 to 17 hours between battery changes, with screen time between 3 and 6 hours, and that includes using batteries that are a couple of years old. I never even got close to this kind of performance with custom ROMs. YMMV etc.
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Thanks for taking your time to write this. I've already disabled GPS/sync and turned on power saving. Clearing the storage now lets android calculate properly, and the Media/sdcard is gone from battery usage. But it's still running very hot and draining. CPUspy says 20% on 1400 and the rest on 800mhz when I'm using it. The system is freezing often and generally really slow.
EDIT: just used eMMC check and it says I'm brickbugged :'(
type VYL00M
Ran the test but it says passed.
Temperature seems to drop to a reasonable 35C when I'm in airplane mode.
With everything on and sync off it's not going above 40C even when watching videos or something, so I guess it's all good now.
So basically what I've done to fix it:
Wipe internal storage and repair all partitions
Flash to OmniROM
Turn off Sync/GPS
Problem seemed to be mainly on the internal storage corruption, maybe related to my bugged chip.
Poopfeast said:
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EDIT: just used eMMC check and it says I'm brickbugged :'(
type VYL00M
Ran the test but it says passed.......maybe related to my bugged chip.
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According to eMMC Brickbug Check my Note is exactly the same as yours - supposedly "Insane chip" but Memory check passed with no problems, and guess what? It works 100% perfectly running 4.1.2 rooted. I have the full capacity of storage available to me, apps do not freeze, everything works as good as new. It is absolutely stable and reliable and terribly boring (just how I like it). It never surprises me or does any weird stuff at boot or crashes or freezes. All the hardware features work, all the supported video and audio codecs and formats work, the networking is rock solid, I can rely on my VPN when away from home, GPS gets a fix in no time, battery life is excellent, video playback is great etc. etc..
I bought my 16GB GT-N7000 a few months ago, a used item on ebay. It is an unlocked retail UK item (boxed with all manuals, paperwork, accessories etc) so no network/vendor bloatware but it was supplied by the seller with Supernexus ROM installed and was obviously suffering from the usual problems often described by users of custom ROMs on exynos. After various frustrating episodes and trials of different ROMs I used ODIN 3.09 to flash an official Samsung ICS 4.04 firmware and 16GB pit file to restore the partition table and stock firmware. Then I ran Kies on Windows XP on the "virgin" restoration. It recognised the hardware and the firmware and notified me of the update to 4.1.2. I went ahead and updated over ethernet and also captured the official 4.1.2 firmware for purpose of backup.
Since then I have tried out various ROMs and have always been able to revert to stock Samsung 4.1.2 via ODIN and without going back to the scary brickbug "insane" ICS versions. As far as I can tell the brick bug is irrelevant if you aren't stuck on ICS. After trying numerous ROMs of various android versions I am in no doubt at all that if you spend half the time setting up a rooted stock Samsung firmware as most people spend setting up ROM X/Y/Z you actually get a much more reliable and useful device.
If you need a known-good pit file for a 16GB GT-N7000 you can use this: ftp://takla.linuxd.org/Q1_20110914_16GB.pit
I had a similar issue lately. Go to developer settings and activate the cpu load display. Processes and their cpu load along with a bar graph will appear on the screen. I found out that google's music app was hanging on my phone. This did not show up in BetterBatteryStats!!!
Hey guys
I already posted my problem in the thread related to LineageOS, but since the issue couldn't be solved I want to try it this way.
So what is my problem?
While using my phone it gets very hot. According to Powerful Monitor the CPU gets up to 65 °C and battery up to 35 °C, while under load. Besides this my battery goes down rapidly. So watching 10 minutes of YouTube sucks up 8-9 % battery. Just a plain normal video.
What is my setup?
I9295, running LineageOS 14.1-2017-06-06-UNOFFICIAL-jactivelte, OpenGApps 06-07-17 nano, only apps installed manually are GeekBench, Powerful Monitor and YouTube. Baseband is I9295XXUDOB4 (German unbranded DBT). I bought a new original Samsung battery and currently using it. So it's basically stock LineageOS.
What have I already tried?
- flashed stock firmware (all available for Germany that are unbranded). With and without erasing NAND, with different Odin versions. Last time I flashed I used Odin 3.07
- different batteries: the old ones the phone came with (bought it used), the new one I bought separately, a new one from PowerCell with higher capacity (2900 mAh)
- different phones. I have a second I9295 from a friend, that worked definitely without any issues. Same problem.
- different custom ROMs: now I'm running LineageOS, but I also tried CM13 (20161228), CM12.1, MIUI and Super WizCyan (everything from xda)
Is it possible break something ciritcal when disassembling the phone? Both phones came with broken covers for the USB port, so I opened it, but only removed the screws and the mid-frame (?) and replaced the cover. Nothing was damaged, at least I was very carefully and didn't see anything that looked suspicious.
Another very strange thing I noticed:
If I use the phone a lot (lets say 30 minutes, so almost 25 % battery!) and after that the phone is not in use for an hour or so, the battery goes up for up to 7-8 %. How it that possible?
I really have no idea what else to do.
Any help is appreciated.
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Hey guys
While using my phone it gets very hot.
I bought a new original Samsung battery and currently using it. So it's basically stock LineageOS.
Any help is appreciated.
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Hey there. Well, there are tons of possible reasons why your phone acts like that. My modest opinion is that you have some sort of wakelock active in background. Install both Wakelock Detector and Gsam Battery Monitor, grant all the permissions and let it obtain data for some minutes. Than look at the results, and check if there's any Wakelock active. If instead Gsam shows an excessive consume by the kernel, try in terminal the following commands:
Code:
su
setenforce 1
setenforce 0
Then see if there's still the drain (you have to wait some minutes).
If it still doesn't work, I'd advice you to update to the latest stock firmware (doesn't matter which Country, just select a non-branded one), reinstall LOS again and verify if with nothing installed you still get the battery drain.
Anyway, IMHO it's not an hardware related problem, even messing up with the components this shouldn't happen. The only hardware fault could be the battery short-life, but 1st you said you just replaced it, 2nd it would not justify the thermal overload. Let us know
Thank you very much for your answer. I'm quite short on time next days but maybe I have a few minutes on sunday.
On the matter latest stock firmware: already tried that on monday, still too much battery drain, but I didn't install LOS till now. Maybe sunday.
But still thank you
Finally I found some time to try your suggestions
I skipped the part of trying it on the old setup, so I flashed everything new with latest stock(UDOB4-DBT, not the last one but still Android 5.0.1), then TWRP 3.1.0, after that LOS 14.1-20170606 and OpenGApps 7.1 nano from 17-06-06. Only apps I installed beside that are GSam Battery and Wakelock Detector. Root activated and granted where asked and needed.
Here I uploaded the pictures I took from GSam Battery.
So what seems strange to me:
- why is Phone Radio used at all? I don't have a SIM card inserted...?! It's on a very high level, even if the screen isn't on.
- The battery gets hot quite fast. If it's not in use, everything is fine. But as soon as I use the phone it gets hot.
- As you said: kernel usage seems quite high, tried to install "Terminal Emulator" and executed the commands - no difference.
According wakelock: where do I check that?
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- Why is Phone Radio used at all? I don't have a SIM card inserted...?! It's on a very high level, even if the screen isn't on.
- The battery gets hot quite fast. If it's not in use, everything is fine. But as soon as I use the phone it gets hot.
- As you said: kernel usage seems quite high, tried to install "Terminal Emulator" and executed the commands - no difference.
According wakelock: where do I check that?
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Sorry for the delay, but if you do not quote/reply me I cannot see the message cause I'm not extremely active on XDA. Anyway...
- Phone Radio is used even without SIM, at least in TouchWiz, dunno in LOS, but it looks like so. The only way to disable it is Airplane Mode.
- It gets hot due to kernel usage, what I still do not understand is why it does so.
- Those commands where the only commands I think could be useful in this case (they set SELinux Permissive/Enforcing)
But if you say you get the Drain on TouchWiz too, the problem is serious and there's a (little?) chanche it would be HW related.
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Sorry for the delay, but if you do not quote/reply me I cannot see the message cause I'm not extremely active on XDA. Anyway...
- Phone Radio is used even without SIM, at least in TouchWiz, dunno in LOS, but it looks like so. The only way to disable it is Airplane Mode.
- It gets hot due to kernel usage, what I still do not understand is why it does so.
- Those commands where the only commands I think could be useful in this case (they set SELinux Permissive/Enforcing)
But if you say you get the Drain on TouchWiz too, the problem is serious and there's a (little?) chanche it would be HW related.
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No need to apologise, you're doing this in your free time...
Besides that, I wasn't at home all week, so I couldn't try anything even if you had answered.
So, how do I get the kernel to calm down and stop draining my battery? I mean, I didn't install anything besides clean LOS and GApps. So what could lead to so much kernel usage? Are there any further information that could help you?
dotnano said:
Thank you very much for your answer. On the matter latest stock firmware: already tried that on monday, still too much battery drain, but I didn't install LOS till now.
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I didn't read this post before, the points are two:
- No need to write Thanks, there's a button for it. It's free and very grateful
- If it drains even on stock it's a serious problem.
dotnano said:
So, how do I get the kernel to calm down and stop draining my battery? I mean, I didn't install anything besides clean LOS and GApps. So what could lead to so much kernel usage? Are there any further information that could help you?
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The situation is very weird. Let's analyze.
1) TW/LOS doesn't matter. Battery drain in both
2) No apps installed which could cause wakelocks
3) Battery SHOULDN'T be the problem
4) The drain is recognised as kernel "usage", though it couldn't be real 'cause of point 1
5) Neither Permissive nor Enforcing SELinux mods helped
At this point it doesn't look so much a SW problem, but more an HW one. About:
dotnano said:
If I use the phone a lot (lets say 30 minutes, so almost 25 % battery!) and after that the phone is not in use for an hour or so, the battery goes up for up to 7-8 %. How it that possible?
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Well, sometimes the discharge happens so fast the battery doesn't calculate the remaining capacity so well, and after some minutes the real charged cells are more than the "estimated" ones. It would explain the "goes up" of the percentage, but still not the drain.
It's very strange and very rare, but there's an infinitesimal possibility that the thermal paste went to the hell. And in this case there's not that much to do.
That's pretty pessimist though. I'd advice you to format everything, reinstall the latest stock TW and stick with it, and if it still doesn't work, try with some apps like Greenify and ForceDoze (this one works just with 6.0+) in order to at least TRY to reduce the drain.
I'm sorry I cannot help you more, if anyone has some suggestion, please let us know.
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I didn't read this post before, the points are two:
- No need to write Thanks, there's a button for it. It's free and very grateful
- If it drains even on stock it's a serious problem.
The situation is very weird. Let's analyze.
1) TW/LOS doesn't matter. Battery drain in both
2) No apps installed which could cause wakelocks
3) Battery SHOULDN'T be the problem
4) The drain is recognised as kernel "usage", though it couldn't be real 'cause of point 1
5) Neither Permissive nor Enforcing SELinux mods helped
At this point it doesn't look so much a SW problem, but more an HW one. About: Well, sometimes the discharge happens so fast the battery doesn't calculate the remaining capacity so well, and after some minutes the real charged cells are more than the "estimated" ones. It would explain the "goes up" of the percentage, but still not the drain.
It's very strange and very rare, but there's an infinitesimal possibility that the thermal paste went to the hell. And in this case there's not that much to do.
That's pretty pessimist though. I'd advice you to format everything, reinstall the latest stock TW and stick with it, and if it still doesn't work, try with some apps like Greenify and ForceDoze (this one works just with 6.0+) in order to at least TRY to reduce the drain.
I'm sorry I cannot help you more, if anyone has some suggestion, please let us know.
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Next strange thing is, I have two S4 Active devices, both have the same problems. Am I just unlucky enough to get two broken phones?
Still, the device I got from I friend was ok the moment he gave it to me. He said battery lasted for only one day, but that would be ok. So it has to be something I did with the phone.
Youre are not alone. My Phone was/is also getting hot.
Then I did a full wipe ( format also internal memory partition!)
I'm current running cm13 (CM13 (20161228)). Batterie works now / normal ok / 1 / 2 Day s ( no great usage ). But when i telephone with someone it's getting hot in 15 min. Modem Version is I2995XXUDPB3.
dotnano said:
Next strange thing is, I have two S4 Active devices, both have the same problems. Am I just unlucky enough to get two broken phones?
Still, the device I got from I friend was ok the moment he gave it to me. He said battery lasted for only one day, but that would be ok. So it has to be something I did with the phone.
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Have you flashed any custom ROM? Try downloading an entire stock firmware for your country / carrier from sammobile and flash through odin 3.09 and check. The S4 active generally gets hot on usage but should not get very hot. You can also try using powersave mode that limits cpu max freq and prevents heating. Battery on normal usage shoukd last for little under a day to a day with normal usage unless you are using data (otherwise set mobile networks to GSM only which saves battery and reduces heat)
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Have you flashed any custom ROM? Try downloading an entire stock firmware for your country / carrier from sammobile and flash through odin 3.09 and check. The S4 active generally gets hot on usage but should not get very hot. You can also try using powersave mode that limits cpu max freq and prevents heating. Battery on normal usage shoukd last for little under a day to a day with normal usage unless you are using data (otherwise set mobile networks to GSM only which saves battery and reduces heat)
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I have flashed the latest DBT (unbranded German) and I have the same problems. Does the version of Odin make a significant difference? I used 3.10.6.
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I have flashed the latest DBT (unbranded German) and I have the same problems. Does the version of Odin make a significant difference? I used 3.10.6.
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Normally i have seen issues flashing through odin 3.10 and prefer 3.07 or 3.09. If the firmware flashed correctly and you do not have any issues then it should be fine.
CPU temp of 65% without powersave mode is fine and watching youtube videos does consume battery. Try a different charger / cable combination as that too can have issues. If the battery gets charged quickly (on stock kernel under 2 - 2.5 hours from 0 to 100) then there is definitely an issue with the charger and it will drain quickly too.
JASONRR said:
Normally i have seen issues flashing through odin 3.10 and prefer 3.07 or 3.09. If the firmware flashed correctly and you do not have any issues then it should be fine.
CPU temp of 65% without powersave mode is fine and watching youtube videos does consume battery. Try a different charger / cable combination as that too can have issues. If the battery gets charged quickly (on stock kernel under 2 - 2.5 hours from 0 to 100) then there is definitely an issue with the charger and it will drain quickly too.
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I tried 3.10, 3.12 and 3.07 so far. Not successfully. Tried 3.09 now, we'll see.
I have a Sony Xperia Z1C as comparison, YouTube needs maybe 1% for 5 Minutes.
Cables/Chargers shouldn't be the problem. I have the original Samsung, also cable. Charged to 0 to 75 % in 90 Minutes. Same with cable and charger from Anker. So should be fine?
So no new ideas?
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So no new ideas?
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I have no idea too but i have the same Trouble with mine BUT I'm still using the original Rom and didn't flash it. So maybe it is an Hardware issue.
My Battery is getting old, yes, but it is the third one. The Phone gets hotter than in its first years.
I hope you'll find a reason!
My i9295 always has been like this: 1 minute on-screen time = 1% battery loss. So this basically is a 2 hour phone... Stock or custom rom didn't matter. A friends i9505 used a lot less power, therefore I assume that the LCD (instead of the S4's AMOLED) is the problem.
Vardion said:
My i9295 always has been like this: 1 minute on-screen time = 1% battery loss. So this basically is a 2 hour phone... Stock or custom rom didn't matter. A friends i9505 used a lot less power, therefore I assume that the LCD (instead of the S4's AMOLED) is the problem.
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Nah, why should it? There are a lot of i9295 users that don't have any problems.