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I have S-off how do I downgrade with an RUU?

I'm running converted GE with 1.54 Google Hboot on my AT&T M7 (S-Off)
in order to go back to stock with the RUU I have to first load the 2.17 firmware Vomer provided in his thread.
If I don't do that I get error 155 when using the RUU.
I lock my bootloader before running it.
What am I missing. I thought S-off and SuperCID bypassed the checks and RUU's just worked.
Thanks for any advice.

Why are you locking your bootloader? You don't need to do that with s-off, I thought.
I wonder if there is some sort of check in the GE bootloader that isn't s-on/s-off dependent.

iElvis said:
Why are you locking your bootloader? You don't need to do that with s-off, I thought.
I wonder if there is some sort of check in the GE bootloader that isn't s-on/s-off dependent.
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I found RUU failed with it unlocked.
I'm very confused at this point and just wonder if HTC changed things up on us.

gunnyman said:
I found RUU failed with it unlocked.
I'm very confused at this point and just wonder if HTC changed things up on us.
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Well, the new 1.54 hboot thwarts the s-off exploit, as you know. It could be HTC introduced some elements with it that restore some type of security checks. It might explain the weird things going on in the s-off threads.
I know there are some substantial differences between the 2.17 hboot and 2.24 hboot even though the version number is the same.

iElvis said:
Well, the new 1.54 hboot thwarts the s-off exploit, as you know. It could be HTC introduced some elements with it that restore some type of security checks. It might explain the weird things going on in the s-off threads.
I know there are some substantial differences between the 2.17 hboot and 2.24 hboot even though the version number is the same.
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SO maybe it isn't me.
Good to know.
Should I be able to just flash a 1.44 HBoot to get around this? Because either the one I have is corrupt, or it doesn't work thanks to the new 1.54 HBoot.
Lucky for me, the 2.17 firmwre.zip installs and things work after that.

gunnyman said:
SO maybe it isn't me.
Good to know.
Should I be able to just flash a 1.44 HBoot to get around this? Because either the one I have is corrupt, or it doesn't work thanks to the new 1.54 HBoot.
Lucky for me, the 2.17 firmwre.zip installs and things work after that.
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You might try sticking with the 2.17 hboot and see if that helps.

iElvis said:
You might try sticking with the 2.17 hboot and see if that helps.
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I have it on the Google Edition HBoot for OTA updates but heck that OTA might make reversal impossible.
*eek*

gunnyman said:
I have it on the Google Edition HBoot for OTA updates but heck that OTA might make reversal impossible.
*eek*
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Must be the GE hboot or perhaps hboot 1.54 from 2.24 in general. I had a AT&T device with the new firmware and hboot 1.54 (from 2.17) I was able to run the RUU with s-off and bootloader still unlocked.

My fear is an ota for the ge would break the ability to downgrade hboot. The 2.17 works because it is the same 1.54

Okay I'm not sure about GE but when I had 2.24 and HBOOT 1.54.0000 I just ran the 1.28.401.7 RUU and it all went fine. I'm S-OFF of course.

Rex2369 said:
Okay I'm not sure about GE but when I had 2.24 and HBOOT 1.54.0000 I just ran the 1.28.401.7 RUU and it all went fine. I'm S-OFF of course.
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weird.
I've calmed my own fears I was able to flash sneakyghost's provided 1.44Hboot. I'm safe.

gunnyman said:
weird.
I've calmed my own fears I was able to flash sneakyghost's provided 1.44Hboot. I'm safe.
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Coming from full GE experience (1.54 hboot, GE recovery and ROM), I had to flash just the 1.44 hboot and relock my bootloader before the Dev RUU worked for me.
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So clearly HTC changed something about what S-off means and what you can and can't do with it.

HBOOT question

So I had an issue with a HTC One, but I got a replacement! I turned S-OFF, flashed the shipped ROM, locked the bootloader and turned S-ON.
Worked perfectly and looks like new!
Anyhow, during this, I found out that revone doesn't work with newer HBOOT versions.
I have a new HTC One and it has the compatible version of HBOOT so I am in luck.
I want to flash custom ROM's such as ARHD but I don't want to update the hboot.
Does a newer version of HBOOT come with ARHD, or is that something only OTA updates include? Does ARHD stick with older HBOOT?
If it does update hboot,
If I turn S-OFF right away, will I be protected in-case a new HBOOT comes through? Will I be able to flash an older HBOOT version in case I need to turn S-ON?
Is it safe to turn S-OFF right now, and just leave it off, just in the case if my hboot gets updated or something - I can always revert to an older version.
I would also like to say thank you for all of your posts! I am an old time iPhone user for 5 years and I'm glad I switched to Android. There is just so much more you can do.
Your posts really help, contributors! It helped me return my device to new status, without 'relocked' and 'tampered' flags in the bootloader!
So thumbs up to XDA! :good:

rowebil said:
So I had an issue with a HTC One, but I got a replacement! I turned S-OFF, flashed the shipped ROM, locked the bootloader and turned S-ON.
Worked perfectly and looks like new!
Anyhow, during this, I found out that revone doesn't work with newer HBOOT versions.
I have a new HTC One and it has the compatible version of HBOOT so I am in luck.
I want to flash custom ROM's such as ARHD but I don't want to update the hboot.
Does a newer version of HBOOT come with ARHD, or is that something only OTA updates include?
If I turn S-OFF, will I be protected in-case a new HBOOT comes through? Will I be able to flash an older HBOOT version?
I would also like to say thank you for all of your posts! I am an old time iPhone user for 5 years and I'm glad I switched to Android. There is just so much more you can do.
Your posts really help, contributors! It helped me return my device to new status, without 'relocked' and 'tampered' flags in the bootloader!
So thumbs up to XDA! :good:
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I have never update the hboot when using ARHD, I just gave it a flash.
As to updating via ota, the only thing close to that for me is when I did a gpe conversion to hboot 1.54 but I could go back.
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squabbi said:
I have never update the hboot when using ARHD, I just gave it a flash.
As to updating via ota, the only thing close to that for me is when I did a gpe conversion to hboot 1.54 but I could go back.
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It is just in the case that I need to do this replacement all over again. I don't want to update to another HBOOT accidentally through a ROM, and then find out I can't get S-OFF/S-ON and I'm stuck lol.
I can't get my words out too clear tonight! I'm not really sure as of why.
If I have S-OFF, and my HBOOT updates somehow, can I go back and flash another HBOOT?
Then another thought comes, I don't want to turn S-OFF because the thread says may not work with all ROM's, which is why I asked if ARHD will update my HBOOT.
Also, thanks for your AIO toolkit! I was looking for it earlier today. I used it when I bought my phone and worked great! Thanks for that!

rowebil said:
It is just in the case that I need to do this replacement all over again. I don't want to update to another HBOOT accidentally through a ROM, and then find out I can't get S-OFF/S-ON and I'm stuck lol.
I can't get my words out too clear tonight! I'm not really sure as of why.
If I have S-OFF, and my HBOOT updates somehow, can I go back and flash another HBOOT?
Then another thought comes, I don't want to turn S-OFF because the thread says may not work with all ROM's, which is why I asked if ARHD will update my HBOOT.
Also, thanks for your AIO toolkit! I was looking for it earlier today. I used it when I bought my phone and worked great! Thanks for that!
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If you want to go back to S-ON you should use an ruu to go back to stock then use the S-ON command.
I'm sure you can downgrade back to hboot 1.44 but some say you can't, but it worked for the Google edition conversion and I returned to 1.44.
I'm glad the toolkit worked for you!
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squabbi said:
If you want to go back to S-ON you should use an ruu to go back to stock then use the S-ON command.
I'm sure you can downgrade back to hboot 1.44 but some say you can't, but it worked for the Google edition conversion and I returned to 1.44.
I'm glad the toolkit worked for you!
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Ah okay, I didn't think about that!
So an RUU will also downgrade hboot?
I don't want to be stuck with a junk hboot that is locked down.
It is going to work for me again, when I unlock this new phone!

It's safe to go S-Off now and leave it off. hboot updates won't cause S-On
ARHD won't update your hboot.
If your hboot is updated, you must be already S-Off to downgrade.

You are on 1.44 right now. If you go s-off now, you will remain s-off even after accepting OTAs, and you can downgrade your hboot whenever you feel like. On the other hand, if you are s-on right now, and accept an OTA, you'll be upgraded to the locked down 1.54, on which you can't get s-off, nor can you downgrade.. What I suggest is going s-off right now, and doing whatever flashing you want to do.. Beware, with s-off, you can permanently brick(hard brick) your phone. If you ever want to go back to s-on, flash an RUU of ONLY 4.1.2. All roms work with s-off, so no need to worry
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rowebil said:
Ah okay, I didn't think about that!
So an RUU will also downgrade hboot?
I don't want to be stuck with a junk hboot that is locked down.
It is going to work for me again, when I unlock this new phone!
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An ruu should, but if you don't want to factory restore, you can just flash the ruu.
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[Q] Downgrade Hboot 1.54 to 1.44?

Ok so i have searched but unable to find an answer to my question.
I want to downgrade my Hboot from 1.54 back to 1.44. I do have s-off. I s-offed when my hboot was on 1.44 using revone. My hboot was upgraded after doing a firmware update.
So i need to send my phone in for repairs (the infamous purple camera) and i want to downgrade so I can return to stock, remove "tampered" and relock.
As stated I am currently S-off and have read its possible to downgrade if you are s-off, just need to be pointed in the right direction

broli-zn said:
Ok so i have searched but unable to find an answer to my question.
I want to downgrade my Hboot from 1.54 back to 1.44. I do have s-off. I s-offed when my hboot was on 1.44 using revone. My hboot was upgraded after doing a firmware update.
So i need to send my phone in for repairs (the infamous purple camera) and i want to downgrade so I can return to stock, remove "tampered" and relock.
As stated I am currently S-off and have read its possible to downgrade if you are s-off, just need to be pointed in the right direction
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I wouldn't downgrade and s-on for warranty, it isn't necessary, they won't check and you will regret it because you will get back your phone s-on and upgraded to hboot 1.54, so non-s-offable for now. I did it too without any problems.
Just make you phone stock again (install a stock ruu is it is available), lock (not relock) your phone and remove tampered flag (running an ruu would remove it, if there is no ruu do it first because revone won't work without root on hboot 1.54)
BTW purple camera is just software whitebalance problem not a hardware problem

You just need to downgradethe firmware. It contains the hboot.
But as @godutch said, it's not necessary.
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Ok cool, thanks guys, so I just need a flash a firmware zip containing 1.44 Hboot and im good to go?
Basically i just want to get rid of the tampered flag.
Iv done the 4.3 upgrades with supposedly fix the camera but its made no effect on mine :crying: so the only other option I have to try and get them to change the camera module.
Thanks again guys. Much appreciated. You will get a thanks each

you don't need to downgrade. h-boot 1.54 is normal and considerated STOCK for devices who made OTA update.
don't do stupid thing's
i removed tampared flag with revone -t

criszz said:
you don't need to downgrade. h-boot 1.54 is normal and considerated STOCK for devices who made OTA update.
don't do stupid thing's
i removed tampared flag with revone -t
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i flashed firmware using ADB, revone doesnt work with 1.54 unfortunately

broli-zn said:
i flashed firmware using ADB, revone doesnt work with 1.54 unfortunately
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it does but you need to be s-off and rooted for it to work but you don't have to do what you are trying to do and you will regret it later....

just try with 1.54 , multiple times

hboot 1.55
godutch said:
I wouldn't downgrade and s-on for warranty, it isn't necessary, they won't check and you will regret it because you will get back your phone s-on and upgraded to hboot 1.54, so non-s-offable for now. I did it too without any problems.
Just make you phone stock again (install a stock ruu is it is available), lock (not relock) your phone and remove tampered flag (running an ruu would remove it, if there is no ruu do it first because revone won't work without root on hboot 1.54)
BTW purple camera is just software whitebalance problem not a hardware problem
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I had my phone repaired twice and they didn't say any thing about the boot loader being unlock. However, since that I have s-off and the phone needs to go to repair for the microphone not working and I wonder if I could either s-on and lock the boot loader with hboot 1.55? If you have any advice, I would appreciate it. Thanks.

amauryaa said:
I had my phone repaired twice and they didn't say any thing about the boot loader being unlock. However, since that I have s-off and the phone needs to go to repair for the microphone not working and I wonder if I could either s-on and lock the boot loader with hboot 1.55? If you have any advice, I would appreciate it. Thanks.
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not recommended, as far as i've seen, going from s-off to s-on (on 100% stock everything), after a few reboots, has a high chance of resulting in "tamper detected - rebooting" and the TAMPERED sign is back.

Downgrade Hboot to 1.44 to achive s-off? Interesting tutorial that a dude made...

Hi, so I got my HTCOne black edition and it had 4.2.2 Sense and I just saw that it has hboot 1.54 and s-on
I want to root but I want to be able to lock my bootloader (make it say locked and not relocked) incase I get into warranty problems...
So I came across this: http://htc-one.wonderhowto.com/how-...one-into-htc-one-with-sense-no-bloat-0148220/
He shows how to get Sense on Google Edition but on Step two he says that you need to downgrade 1.54 to 1.44 for this to be able to work
He changes the cid to make the bootloader think he can downgrade it (he says)
So can I do the same thing by
1. Unlocking my bootloader, root and then downgrade the hboot?
2. Unlock bootloader, root and turn my phone into google edition --> Downgrade to 1.44 ---> Reinstall Sense RUU or Rom or whatever to get it back?
3. Any other way?
I searched a bit but could not find anything about this so I hope we can keep a nice discussion here for people like me who are stuck on 1.54 with s-on (thanks htc for sending me a new HTCOne, except that it is s-on and on 1.54 and on 4.2.2 :/ )
Thanks in advance

sopaj96 said:
Hi, so I got my HTCOne black edition and it had 4.2.2 Sense and I just saw that it has hboot 1.54 and s-on
I want to root but I want to be able to lock my bootloader (make it say locked and not relocked) incase I get into warranty problems...
So I came across this: http://htc-one.wonderhowto.com/how-...one-into-htc-one-with-sense-no-bloat-0148220/
He shows how to get Sense on Google Edition but on Step two he says that you need to downgrade 1.54 to 1.44 for this to be able to work
He changes the cid to make the bootloader think he can downgrade it (he says)
So can I do the same thing by
1. Unlocking my bootloader, root and then downgrade the hboot?
2. Unlock bootloader, root and turn my phone into google edition --> Downgrade to 1.44 ---> Reinstall Sense RUU or Rom or whatever to get it back?
3. Any other way?
I searched a bit but could not find anything about this so I hope we can keep a nice discussion here for people like me who are stuck on 1.54 with s-on (thanks htc for sending me a new HTCOne, except that it is s-on and on 1.54 and on 4.2.2 :/ )
Thanks in advance
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Changing CID (to allow RUUs that are not for your phone) is not possible with S-ON. So that guide requires S-OFF.... S-ON + hboot 1.54 = No S-OFF untill exploit is revealed. Sorry.
Thread for attempts to get S-OFF on hboot 1.54 -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46263968
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First comment on the guide you linked to states the following which is correct:
For #1, using your instructions, the CID will not change. it seems that i need to set S-Off....
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sopaj96 said:
Hi, so I got my HTCOne black edition and it had 4.2.2 Sense and I just saw that it has hboot 1.54 and s-on
I want to root but I want to be able to lock my bootloader (make it say locked and not relocked) incase I get into warranty problems...
So I came across this: http://htc-one.wonderhowto.com/how-...one-into-htc-one-with-sense-no-bloat-0148220/
He shows how to get Sense on Google Edition but on Step two he says that you need to downgrade 1.54 to 1.44 for this to be able to work
He changes the cid to make the bootloader think he can downgrade it (he says)
So can I do the same thing by
1. Unlocking my bootloader, root and then downgrade the hboot?
2. Unlock bootloader, root and turn my phone into google edition --> Downgrade to 1.44 ---> Reinstall Sense RUU or Rom or whatever to get it back?
3. Any other way?
I searched a bit but could not find anything about this so I hope we can keep a nice discussion here for people like me who are stuck on 1.54 with s-on (thanks htc for sending me a new HTCOne, except that it is s-on and on 1.54 and on 4.2.2 :/ )
Thanks in advance
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Won't work, you already have to be S-Off to downgrade hboot, the tutorial should have stated that at the beginning. Sorry

TwinAdk said:
Changing CID (to allow RUUs that are not for your phone) is not possible with S-ON. So that guide requires S-OFF.... S-ON + hboot 1.54 = No S-OFF untill exploit is revealed. Sorry.
Thread for attempts to get S-OFF on hboot 1.54 -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46263968
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First comment on the guide you linked to states the following which is correct:
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But... How did he get s-off with a Google Edition phone when he had 1.54? Mu thoughts are that Google Edition has s-off... So maybe if we root and turn our phone to a google edition phone and then do what he does...then put it back on sense?
I want to root so badly lol xd

GPe are s-on. He probably had an s-off device converted to GPe.
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CoryTallman said:
GPe are s-on. He probably had an s-off device converted to GPe.
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Well that sucks if its true :/
Do you think I should root anyway?
As of now I dont have any problems with my phone and by the time it takes for it to break, if it even breaks or defects or something, maybe someone has made some tool or have hacked 1.54... It cant take more than 1 year right?

They're looking for an exploit for hboot 1.55 not 1.54. And it may never come. No one knows till someone finds it. There's always the java card option though.
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Unlocked, S-OFF, SuperCID. Flash hboot 1.44?

Hi all. I just unlocked my HTC m7 (GSM) with HTCdev.com and then installed TWRP and used that to install SuperSU. After that, I ran Sunshine to get S-OFF, and then I ran Guru Bootloader Reset in order to remove the "tampered" flag. Then I set SuperCID to 11111111, and I think I'm ready to flash a rom (I"m looking at ViperOne, since I used it on my Sensation and liked it).
I'm on hboot 1.61. Is it worth downgrading to 1.44 so that I can easily get s-on/s-off in the future? If so, should I flash the new hboot before or after the rom? Does it matter?
Thanks all. I spent quite a bit of time flashing and testing roms on my HTC Touch Pro and then my HTC Sensation. I've held off for a couple of years, but I'm looking forward to playing around with my M7 again!

MPenguin said:
(...), I ran Sunshine to get S-OFF
(...)
I'm on hboot 1.61. Is it worth downgrading to 1.44 so that I can easily get s-on/s-off in the future? If so, should I flash the new hboot before or after the rom? Does it matter?
Thanks all. I spent quite a bit of time flashing and testing roms on my HTC Touch Pro and then my HTC Sensation. I've held off for a couple of years, but I'm looking forward to playing around with my M7 again!
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Your phone is already S-OFF why would you want to turn it back S-ON? Never go back S-ON, the only time it should be done is before sending the phone for repair under warranty. Going back S-ON is the same as intentionally locking your car with the keys left inside... And even if you go back S-ON why hboot 1.44 should make it easier to achieve S-OFF again? You just paid for Sunshine, you can use it as many time as you want on that phone + If you already have paid for Sunshine, its actually the easiest method to S-OFF your phone on any hboot version.
If I buy a SunShine license, can I use it on multiple phones?
No - one license is good for one device. You can reuse SunShine on that device, if necessary, we however NEVER recommending setting your device S-ON
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ref: http://theroot.ninja/faq.html
Another thing to know is that hboot 1.44 is incompatible with windows 8 and 10, so say goodbye to fastboot connectivity (fastboot commands) after flashing it, unless you are using a Mac, Win7 or Linux.
For your last question, it doesn't matter when you flash the hboot, if you need to flash one. Would recommend to stay on 1.61