Bay Trail + tab casting? - Google Chromecast

I am wondering if anyone has a Windows 8(.1) Bay Trail (quad-core Atom) device yet? I am curious if these have enough processing power to cast tabs smoothly from Chrome, even if just at standard definition.
I was contemplating that I might buy the Asus T100 tablet/netbook when it comes out and relegate my old laptop and first-gen netbook to the donation bin. Of course, yes, I can also just plug the device straight into the TV.

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apple tv

anybody got any exp with it?
was thinking about getting one mainly for
having an easy access to music from the pc
in the livingroom for partys where i guess
the easyness of apple would be handy if you
had a bit of a drink
and maybe the odd yourTube click for fun
and a few video clicps not too many so i guess
the 40gb would be enough
apple TV sucks, especially the value of it. Its simply too expensive for its features. I rather buy a home media centre PC for the living room TV.
I quite like them
Dont expect to get every youtube clip on it though, they are currently somewhat limited.
Certainly when 'modified' they become great little boxes capable of playing XVID encoded videos.
A friend of mine (www.semthex.com) developed a kernel for it that allows Tiger 10.4 to run natively!
Well worth the money IMHO.
buy a used macmini add $20 adapter
mini duo +
dvi- hdmi
or dvi to s
4 usb ports
usb to s-video nad sound
i or 2 firewire ports to all of the above including dvi hdmi
all white apple adapters frys
assuming that mac tcv is still over priced
mini is mac tv skills and adapter (no skills if you can listen to a guy at the apple store)
assuming mactv is still $$$$
ebay mini duo $300 xp upgrade $0 Toshiba dvd player with usb port and divx on it$40
or even $20 linksys wireless gaming device to tv
yu got options
i dont really want another pc
what i want is a device with 0 boottime
and zero hassel
that my gf and or guests can operate without
having to mess about

HDMI cable?

Cab anyone recommend a UK sourced HDMI cable which can be used with the special USB slot in the Nook Colour please? Thinking of getting Netflix
From what I recall, previous discussions pretty much ended with
"not possible"
If someone can correct me I'd be extremely pleased.
Nope, Nook doesn't have the hardware to support it.
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Yea, I don't think that's possible, plus the nook is pretty slow when it comes to netflix anyway, just HDMI connect a laptop if you have one, or game console. I would recommend a Dynex wire, cheap, but I've had 4 for the last two months for all of my hd consoles and tv's, no problems and exceptional video quality.
Newegg has cheap HDMI cables too.
MeatyMcSausage said:
Yea, I don't think that's possible, plus the nook is pretty slow when it comes to netflix anyway, just HDMI connect a laptop if you have one, or game console. I would recommend a Dynex wire, cheap, but I've had 4 for the last two months for all of my hd consoles and tv's, no problems and exceptional video quality.
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My NC runs Netflix flawlessly on CM7. Returning to the topic, it is not possible.
jgaf said:
My NC runs Netflix flawlessly on CM7. Returning to the topic, it is not possible.
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Same here! Flawless...
...back on topic...
...NO HDMI.
Yeah, I wanted to try this awhile back. Here are some links I found looking into the topic;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061856
https://sites.google.com/site/voyageofbeagleboard/Home/displaylink-for-android
http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
Essentially, it looks like there is a way to get android to write the framebuffer to the USB port, and some converters to get that out as a display, but I do not have anywhere near the skills to get it working and the adapters were prohibitively expensive for the gain.
My verdict is; Possible, but very unlikely.
You could get a Raspberry Pi and connect it to your Nook (or any tablet without HDMI) through WiFi. At only $35 or so (assuming you already have a WiFi router to plug it into), it's a very affordable solution. The software side would be tricky. I suppose you could just install Linux and a VNC server on the Raspberry Pi...
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You could get a Raspberry Pi and connect it to your Nook (or any tablet without HDMI) through WiFi. At only $35 or so (assuming you already have a WiFi router to plug it into), it's a very affordable solution. The software side would be tricky. I suppose you could just install Linux and a VNC server on the Raspberry Pi...
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For a good streamer. I am using modded atv2 (appletv) it supports netflix w/o anything else, plug and play. I use it everyday and with my NC supporting airplay .

Ok so whats your honest opinion of the chromcast

So wondering what you all think of your chromcasts, I like mine but I can't say its the best thing ever. It feels almost useless. Now don't get me wrong, what it does do, it does extremely well and ts my favorite way of watching youtube but it doesn't do much.
I mean there are just so many devices that can stream youtube and netflix. And both youtube and netflix could already be controlled remotely way before the chromecast. The only thing its super useful for is for those who invested a lot of money in google play music and movies and I personally havn't due to their prices usually being more.
Then again it was only $43 after shipping and taxes and it should have plenty more features on the way I hope. Hopefully google will finish the sdk soon and we can get some real use out of it. Though its hard to justify buying something on what it might do in the future.
I guess I don't regret buying it, but its hard to recommend it to someone right now.
How do you all feel about it?
I love mine, but I only paid $35 (amazon free shipping, and no tax where I live), and I got the three months free Netflix (already a member).
I have a Vizio smart TV, and the Netflix app is bad. It hasn't been updated in three years. Cannot enable closed captions. Cannot view all episodes for a TV series with more than 100 episodes. Plus, it's slow. So the Chromecast was an easy way to upgrade my Netflix experience.
I was going to use it to stream local stuff to my TV, but instead I just hooked up my computer directly to the TV and set up plex for other TVs.
I would like to see being able to cast the browser from a phone. Plus support for plex or other DLNA streaming would be nice.
At $43, it's too close to $55 for a Roku XS, personally. I don't see it as a Roku or Apple TV competitor. Nor, in its current state, a replacement for either or them. But, I think it's a much better play at getting to TV service than the Q was. I'm interested to see what Google does with it in the next year.
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firesoul453 said:
So wondering what you all think of your chromcasts, I like mine but I can't say its the best thing ever. It feels almost useless. Now don't get me wrong, what it does do, it does extremely well and ts my favorite way of watching youtube but it doesn't do much.
I mean there are just so many devices that can stream youtube and netflix. And both youtube and netflix could already be controlled remotely way before the chromecast. The only thing its super useful for is for those who invested a lot of money in google play music and movies and I personally havn't due to their prices usually being more.
Then again it was only $43 after shipping and taxes and it should have plenty more features on the way I hope. Hopefully google will finish the sdk soon and we can get some real use out of it. Though its hard to justify buying something on what it might do in the future.
I guess I don't regret buying it, but its hard to recommend it to someone right now.
How do you all feel about it?
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I pretty much agree with you on all points. For about 6 years i have had a HTPC hooked up to our main home TV screen. With a wireless keyboard attached, it does pretty much everything that chromecast/roku/internet tv's/xbox 360/etc will do and more. I have been a XBMC user since back in the softmodded xbox 1 days. I switched to my HTPC when high def video releases became more common and I needed more horsepower.
Using my tablet to browse and cast youtube videos has been pretty fun. Chromecast caused me to take the time to get my tablet (iconia a500) on a updated and stable ROM. I had been ignoring it for some time and the previous rom I had was crashy and frustrating.
Mostly, i bought Chromecast because i believe the dev community will eventually do some fun stuff with it.
Chromecast was next to free when i bought it since I got the netflix deal. I wish I would have bought at least 10 more. they seem to be going for double on Seattle Craigslist.
firesoul453 said:
So wondering what you all think of your chromcasts, I like mine but I can't say its the best thing ever. It feels almost useless. Now don't get me wrong, what it does do, it does extremely well and ts my favorite way of watching youtube but it doesn't do much.
I mean there are just so many devices that can stream youtube and netflix. And both youtube and netflix could already be controlled remotely way before the chromecast. The only thing its super useful for is for those who invested a lot of money in google play music and movies and I personally havn't due to their prices usually being more.
Then again it was only $43 after shipping and taxes and it should have plenty more features on the way I hope. Hopefully google will finish the sdk soon and we can get some real use out of it. Though its hard to justify buying something on what it might do in the future.
I guess I don't regret buying it, but its hard to recommend it to someone right now.
How do you all feel about it?
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I like mine a lot. But, then, i like my Toast-r-Oven a lot also. Is my Toast-r-Oven the same as a full sized oven? No. Is it the same as a microwave oven? No. But that doesn't mean that I won't have all three and use them differently.
The best feature about the Chromecast is that it's literally plug and play. Type in a wifi password and you're done. About as easy a technology product to use that I've ever seen. This will make it a big hit. I would have no problem giving this to any friend that knows absolutely nothing about technology.
I've used an HTPC as my primary mode of content delivery for years and I've been always searching for a better way to completely eliminate the need for a mouse/kb. My remote and tablet both fully XBMC for all the things I download. But my other big source of content has been Netflix, for which there has been no good way to access without using a mouse at the very least. That's been a big annoyance to me for some time, so being able to fully control Netflix, while getting the highest HD and 5.1 stream possible, has been huge.
I'm hoping that HBO Go will be implemented soon. Hopefully the Xfinity will get support, as well. I'm not going to hold my breath, but maybe someday Amazon will finally release a true Android app and they'll put in Chromecast support. I'm looking forward to the expansion of content, but for me, just putting the control of Netflix onto my tablet has made the product a winner.
a better way to completely eliminate the need for a mouse/kb. My remote and tablet both fully XBMC for all the things I download. But my other big source of content has been Netflix, for which there has been no good way to access without using a mouse at the very least.
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Off the main subject, but...
Have you tried the gmote app? it sort of accomplishes the same thing as turning your tablet or android phone into a touchpad. You have to run a little server app on the HTPC though.
Another workaround I came up with is to used a wireless keyboard with a mouse (roller ball or touchpad) built in. These are no good for gaming, bit they are a little handier than a separate mouse and keyboard. I have tried both of these and they have been decent.
lenovo multimedia remote/keyboard
Iogear multimedia remote/keyboard
mudsloth said:
I've used an HTPC as my primary mode of content delivery for years and I've been always searching for a better way to completely eliminate the need for a mouse/kb. My remote and tablet both fully XBMC for all the things I download. But my other big source of content has been Netflix, for which there has been no good way to access without using a mouse at the very least. That's been a big annoyance to me for some time, so being able to fully control Netflix, while getting the highest HD and 5.1 stream possible, has been huge.
I'm hoping that HBO Go will be implemented soon. Hopefully the Xfinity will get support, as well. I'm not going to hold my breath, but maybe someday Amazon will finally release a true Android app and they'll put in Chromecast support. I'm looking forward to the expansion of content, but for me, just putting the control of Netflix onto my tablet has made the product a winner.
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Apple TV (version 3) and Roku 3 are both 1080p and have on-screen browsing, which is obviously better than dinking around with a tablet. And they are only $100, so there is no barrier to just getting one.
I have a htpc, too, and it sits now. It's just too much easier and better to browse with a remote.
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To those using XBMC get yatse. Its a remote for XBMC and you can "share" youtube vids with your XBMC from your phone or tablet
It's very hit or miss.... Having an HDMI to your PC is way better. And cheaper. Maybe once hackers fix all the ludicrous functionality gaffs..... My advice: wait to buy till it's useful.
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It's by far the best netflix streaming experience I've had.
It looks great in 1080p, and I don't have to use yet another remote control to navigate a clunky interface from 10 feet away.
I'm very pleased with it and it will only get better as more developers add support to their applications.
Right now... Not worth $35, however long term once we get Pandora, HBO go, etc support. Then I believe it will be a perfect media device. Am I disappointed with mine? No. Do I use it often? Yes. My only gripe is the lack of app support and some bugginess when streaming from chrome.
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The way they showed it work on Google's press conference. It was almost instant mine doesn't work like that. It sometimes takes a little while to load. And it seems to slow down the netflix app on my phone. Anyone else experience this?
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I'm with you guys. I have a Mac Mini running XBMC and after that kind of an experience, this is a pretty big let down. I have been eyeing an Ouya running XBMC for a while now, and I was hoping to have that modded onto this, but I don't think that's going to happen now.
Furthermore, format support is really not there for such a single purpose device, it no doubt has the horsepower to decode more. I was hopeful when I found I could stream stuff directly to it without some sort of transcoding, but instantly disappointed with no AC3 audio, which is a bit of a deal breaker.
Yatse on my Android phone with some sort of XBMC remote is a lot more up my alley. I suppose this is nice for Netflix, which I can't get on there, but I have an XBox currently capable of doing it.
One last thing, my Chromecast interferes with my over the air signal. I don't know why or how, but if that sucker is plugged in anywhere close to my TV, no over the air channels receive at all. Mind you, I already have plenty of wifi, bluetooth, and other wireless gadgets over there.
Waiting for more dev support
I have Logitech Revue (which is just awesome since I got it for 99bucks). I love that it has physical keyboard, and plays everything that Chromecast does and more and has better controls (thanks to the keyboard). Also,Chromecast currently does not support live streaming on youtube, which sucks. The main reason I purchased it was I got 3 months free Netflix (which I am a member anyway) and the possible dev support in future. I pretty much knew what I was buying, so did not have any more expectations.
Am ok with it
its not the jesus streamer but it covers 97% of what i would like it to do. Changing to mp4 isn't deal breaker. streams well enough from youtube and excellently from netflix. hopfully more to come
I have mine connected to our office TV (second of 2 TVs in our house). That TV does not have a cable box connected to it because we could not justify the cost of the cable box for the limited amount that we would use it. I did get a Roku 3 for that TV but returned it the day before Chromecast was announced because it was having trouble staying connected to our network. Chromecast does exactly what I want it do do. I can start streams from any of our devices and and I have had no issues (other than a minor installation hiccup). I would like other services to work with it like HBO Go and MLB.TV, but those should be coming and I am content for now. There are a lot of little things that could be improved to make this an exceptional product, but it is still a very god product as it presently stands.
Actually no, onscreen controls are NOT obviously better than dinking around with a tablet.
everyone needs to wake up, a roku is triple the price of this thing, you can't buy a ipod or hell a watch that can do any of what this can do for 35.00. in a simple term this is a Netflix/youtube streamer. routers, modems, download speeds are all going to impact things. I have a Roku 2 XS , Roku is clunky and unpolished. I don't care who you are but Roku is no speed demon, it does a ok job at 50 bucks I got on a accomidation. Chromecast is working for me like the demo. I have a beefed up Asus router, I'm about 4 feet from my router with my tv and I run Cat 6 across all my connections. Chrome cast is fast and snappy. My setup was smooth too. Everyone is going to have a different experience. The only thing close to this is a raspberry PI. at 35.00 I may want the Pi for other things but for playing my content you won't find any streamer with the hardware or Dev support community this little device has. It's one of a kind whether you choose to accept that or not. a plex plugin is in the works also. It's all simple I can buy a 200 dollar nexus 7 or a 330 dollar ipad mini. build quality will be a bit better on the ipad the camera sharper. and more accessories and gadgets. so why to I get the nexus 7? because anyone can buy a ipad if you had the money and 2 the open experience. I can't crack open roku and flash a new OS. with chromecast it's endless since chrome browser can have anything built on it making it your own.
Mine works fine out the box, no issues. I can't see how anyone can complain about the out-the-box features. It IS lacking features, which is why I wasn't gonna buy one. But once I realized the possibilities and the fact that it was only around eleven dollars after the Netflix promo, I snapped one up on faith that Google would open it up to things like what Koush is doing. But even if that never happens, I can't complain. I'm still left with a painless way to use services on my TV that I use everyday.
Long story short, if you have real issues getting to work, your complaints are valid. But if you bought one and you're unsatisfied with the features, you have no one to blame but yourself.
I have an old TV & stereo in my garage / workshop that I wanted to project to from my phone, mainly for the Google Play Music app. I used to use an Airport Express but switched to Android so that was no longer an option. For me, Chromecast is awesome. I had to get an adapter to connect the audio to the stereo, but the Chromecast + Adapter was still cheaper than the Airport Express was. I was looking for something similar to Airplay and for me this was by far the best option. No, it's not an HTPC or even a Roku, but if you realize it's a dumb stick aimed at people who have no idea what anyvody on XDA is talking about, it's a great little device.
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[Q] Live streaming?

I am interested in getting a Chromecast, but I wanted to know if it copes with live flash streaming well or not?
Lostlam said:
I am interested in getting a Chromecast, but I wanted to know if it copes with live flash streaming well or not?
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Live streaming what?
Odds are if you can get your live stream in a Chrome Tab it will cast to the Chromecast(though with reduced video quality). The chromecast itself will only work with listed approved apps at the moment so odds are that without a chrome tab you will not get it tow work.
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Live streaming what?
Odds are if you can get your live stream in a Chrome Tab it will cast to the Chromecast(though with reduced video quality). The chromecast itself will only work with listed approved apps at the moment so odds are that without a chrome tab you will not get it tow work.
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I live in the UK, so I would use it for Sky Go, Virgin TV Anywhere, and even live football streams. Would it be worth getting then?
Chrome tab casting relies on the computer to transcode what's displayed on the tab to a Chromecast-friendly format and send it over. It requires a reasonable amount of CPU horsepower for video, because the CPU is not only decompressing the Internet stream for display, it's then recompressing that to send to the Chromecast - all in real-time.
Personally I would look more toward a wireless HDMI solution that would let you connect your computer "directly" to your TV wirelessly. Of course that'll cost significantly more than Chromecast.
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Chrome tab casting relies on the computer to transcode what's displayed on the tab to a Chromecast-friendly format and send it over. It requires a reasonable amount of CPU horsepower for video, because the CPU is not only decompressing the Internet stream for display, it's then recompressing that to send to the Chromecast - all in real-time.
Personally I would look more toward a wireless HDMI solution that would let you connect your computer "directly" to your TV wirelessly. Of course that'll cost significantly more than Chromecast.
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Thanks for the info mate. I thought it was too good to be true. I probably look into getting a Wireless HDMI transmitter, but as you said; it will be much more expensive for a good one.
Lostlam said:
Thanks for the info mate. I thought it was too good to be true. I probably look into getting a Wireless HDMI transmitter, but as you said; it will be much more expensive for a good one.
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If it isn't something you need to do right now I'd wait until after the Dec 7/8 Google Chromecast Hackathon to see what they say about Chromecast in other countries and providers.
Unless of course there's some irresistable Black Friday or Cyber Monday deal on an HDMI transmitter...
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If it isn't something you need to do right now I'd wait until after the Dec 7/8 Google Chromecast Hackathon to see what they say about Chromecast in other countries and providers.
Unless of course there's some irresistable Black Friday or Cyber Monday deal on an HDMI transmitter...
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I live in the UK mate, so the Chromecast isn't even officially out over here. I am not sure what the hold up is as some UK companies are selling it themselves, but Google aren't. I will have to wait and see what the best option is around.
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I live in the UK mate, so the Chromecast isn't even officially out over here. I am not sure what the hold up is as some UK companies are selling it themselves, but Google aren't. I will have to wait and see what the best option is around.
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Interesting... The other option is a small form-factor (SFF) PC. I have an Acer Aspire Revo R3700 as my HTPC for playing DVDs and BDs... It'll barely keep up for Flash stuff, but I do use my Chromecast a lot for HBO Go and the convenience of queuing YouTube from the couch.
I'm sure some of the UK TV providers will get on board, but they're probably waiting to see how Chromecast does over here in the states, err, colonies.

Chromecast + Chromebook

Hi All,
Bought a Chromecast the other day, Connected up fine.
If I try to cast High or Extreme quality off my Acer C710 Chromebook (upgraded to 4gb ram) it becomes very juddery (the picture) the sound is fine though. I haven't yet tried this with my Acer laptop with Ubuntu. If I switch it to normal quality its fine however.
Using Sky Fibre connection (Apple Airport Extreme router).
Any ideas? Is it that the Chromebook isn't upto streaming it in that quality? (Im planning on getting the Toshiba Chromebook 13 anyway)
AndrewJB88 said:
Hi All,
Bought a Chromecast the other day, Connected up fine.
If I try to cast High or Extreme quality off my Acer C710 Chromebook (upgraded to 4gb ram) it becomes very juddery (the picture) the sound is fine though. I haven't yet tried this with my Acer laptop with Ubuntu. If I switch it to normal quality its fine however.
Using Sky Fibre connection (Apple Airport Extreme router).
Any ideas? Is it that the Chromebook isn't upto streaming it in that quality? (Im planning on getting the Toshiba Chromebook 13 anyway)
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Could be the wireless connectivity to Chromecast, could be the Chromebook, could be the router...
In general the tab/desktop casting is not very efficient though. Screen mirroring isn't Chromecast's primary function.
Also, what generation of Airport Extreme do you have? There were many that share the same name, but not he same features/performance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airport_Extreme
Chromebooks in general are not designed with video encoding in mind, which is an extremely demanding task. I would say that your Chromebook's CPU is bottle-necked.
It's a Celeron processor. It's not strong enough for the encoding burden required at higher bitrates.
I had a feeling it would be the Chromebook, It plays fine at normal quality.
I wont bother with higher quality's till I get a new Chromebook.
Airport Extreme is a 5th generation one I think

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