Hello I have two questions... First is if I can charge all the phones with the fast 1500mah charger of Xperia Z1???
To my old Xperia sp, charger was 850 mah, can I charge an Xperia SP with 1500mah charger?
Yes your phone.will only take as much.current as it needs
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nobby00900 said:
Yes your phone.will only take as much.current as it needs
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so i can charge with the 1500 mah charger a battery that is 1650mah capacity ? but it wil charge FASTER than a normal charger ? that's the point ?
Wait, you are mixing things up! Your Xperia Z1 Charger does supply 1500 mA (which means 1,5 Ampere) of current at 5,0V DC.
Your Xperia S Battery has a Capacity of 1650 mAh (or 1,65 Ampere Hours) which means that it can supply 1,65 Ampere of continuous current for 1 hour (at 5V, I guess)
So: Yes, you can use a bigger charger and it will charge your phone faster, in this case nearly twice as fast. This will not damage your phone, as it will (as already said) just take the maximum current it can make use of.
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So: Yes, you can use a bigger charger and it will charge your phone faster, in this case nearly twice as fast. This will not damage your phone, as it will (as already said) just take the maximum current it can make use of.
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I thought it was the chipset/kernel which had fast charge capabilities, not the charger?
If the phone only takes the maximum current it will make use of, it doesn't matter what the charger is spitting out, the phone will only draw what it needs to.
I could be wrong, but my Nexus 4 charged at exactly the same speed when I used my Nexus 7 charger as it did with the stock charger.
El Presidente81 said:
I thought it was the chipset/kernel which had fast charge capabilities, not the charger?
If the phone only takes the maximum current it will make use of, it doesn't matter what the charger is spitting out, the phone will only draw what it needs to.
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You are perfectly right! And it's also what I wanted to say. Of course if your phone is not able to draw more than 750 mA, a bigger Charger is useless.
But one can safely try it out!
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My phone charger broke and now it connects to the phone with a lot of difficulty, so I can hardly charge the phone. Do you happen to have any link to original charger where I can buy?
Here-
Amazon - http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson...?ie=UTF8&qid=1344437610&sr=8-1&keywords=ep800
eBay - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-So...ccessories&hash=item19ce80b4d1#ht_1477wt_1154
Just go down to any nearest Sony Ericsson service center, there you can get original charger..
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nightshroud.petrov7 said:
My phone charger broke and now it connects to the phone with a lot of difficulty, so I can hardly charge the phone. Do you happen to have any link to original charger where I can buy?
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also can charge from other android phones charger. most of the androids has micro usb charging.
I charge my phone with my dad HTC wildfire S charger!:laugh:
I charge using BlackBerry charger, and it charged. :laugh:
When you use a charger for another device you must be sure that the Output Amperes are equal or less than the ones of the original charger
of your device because you will propably damage your device!!
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When you use a charger for another device you must be sure that the Output Amperes are equal or less than the ones of the original charger
of your device because you will propably damage your device!!
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MICROUSB are all same....(I think so)
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MICROUSB are all same....(I think so)
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no they are not all same
samsung provides 850mA current while our charger has 1A.
as our battery is 1200mAh we can give max 1.2A current to it (considering 1C discharge)
so i recommend to use any USB charger with 5V and 1A rating. apple chargers also use the same.
also buy a good company charger. dont use any china charger as they lack in overvoltage protection and all (i am not offending any chinese people in xda ).
and our PC USB port provides 5V 500mA, so we can use it also but it will take time to charge phone.
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mayurcools said:
no they are not all same
samsung provides 850mA current while our charger has 1A.
as our battery is 1200mAh we can give max 1.2A current to it (considering 1C discharge)
so i recommend to use any USB charger with 5V and 1A rating. apple chargers also use the same.
also buy a good company charger. dont use any china charger as they lack in overvoltage protection and all (i am not offending any chinese people in xda ).
and our PC USB port provides 5V 500mA, so we can use it also but it will take time to charge phone.
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jst a query.....doesnt our x8 charger(ep800 greenheart) outputs 850mA...???????
though charging with 1A provides fast charging.....good or bad?
vikalstha said:
jst a query.....doesnt our x8 charger(ep800 greenheart) outputs 850mA...???????
though charging with 1A provides fast charging.....good or bad?
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every phone has built in charging IC and it provides high current with fast charging and when battery is about to charge full it reduces current and charges device normally so that there will not be any overcharging.
and our battery is LiPo not LiIon so we have advantages over more current draw and fast charging. also we can charge battery at ny time, it is not needed to charge it when battery is about to die to extend its life like in other batteries.
so you do not need to worry.
and my W8 original greenheart charger rating is 5V 1A
mayurcools said:
every phone has built in charging IC and it provides high current with fast charging and when battery is about to charge full it reduces current and charges device normally so that there will not be any overcharging.
and our battery is LiPo not LiIon so we have advantages over more current draw and fast charging. also we can charge battery at ny time, it is not needed to charge it when battery is about to die to extend its life like in other batteries.
so you do not need to worry.
and my W8 original greenheart charger rating is 5V 1A
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thanks for d info....means i can charge my x8 with no mind-bugging query with other chrgers dat provide 1A?....woooooooooolaaaa...:highfive:
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When you use a charger for another device you must be sure that the Output Amperes are equal or less than the ones of the original charger
of your device because you will propably damage your device!!
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Quite wrong there.The only thing that will happen is that the phone will take longer to charge if the mAmperes are less than the original chargers.If they are more it wont have any problem or it may even charge faster depending on the internal charge controller.
Just so you keep it in mind, the mAmps a charger states, is the MAXIMUM it can provide, not the mAmps it FORCES into the device.Every device drains as much power as it is configured to drain when it was built.
Its the OUTPUT voltage you must be careful at, though every charger the last 8 years outputs 5-7 volts which is fine. :laugh:
@above
True.. The phone will only draw the power it requires even if the charger has a higher rating..
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Use samsung charger, better battery life...
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Use samsung charger, better battery life...
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Well in this case you write nonsense ...
Sony Ericsson is the Sony Ericsson and not combined with other devices.
But if the charger fits why not a battery but it does not improve in the same way as other charges
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Well in this case you write nonsense ...
Sony Ericsson is the Sony Ericsson and not combined with other devices.
But if the charger fits why not a battery but it does not improve in the same way as other charges
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Nonsense is not a very polite word, i d prefer inaccurate.
In this case both statements are wrong.There is no manufacturer constrain when using smartphones and chargers, as long as they both have the same plug (aka micro usb).
The chargers are not actually chargers, they are power supplies.As stated above each phone only takes the amount of power its charge controller IC dictates it to.So there is no better life with samsung charger nor SE for SE phones and not combining with other devices.
Use whatever charger you can find (as long as it is of some brand) and it will do the trick.If it says many mAs(like 1000 or more) good for, you, faster charge if the phone allows it, if it says less mAs you ll just have to wait more, but the battery wont get damaged, whatever charger you use!
Theorw said:
Nonsense is not a very polite word, i d prefer inaccurate.
In this case both statements are wrong.There is no manufacturer constrain when using smartphones and chargers, as long as they both have the same plug (aka micro usb).
The chargers are not actually chargers, they are power supplies.As stated above each phone only takes the amount of power its charge controller IC dictates it to.So there is no better life with samsung charger nor SE for SE phones and not combining with other devices.
Use whatever charger you can find (as long as it is of some brand) and it will do the trick.If it says many mAs(like 1000 or more) good for, you, faster charge if the phone allows it, if it says less mAs you ll just have to wait more, but the battery wont get damaged, whatever charger you use!
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O rly?
According to your logic
There must be charger that charges X8 in just 1 minute :silly:
see boot animation without rebooting
Gogeta said:
O rly?
According to your logic
There must be charger that charges X8 in just 1 minute :silly:
see boot animation without rebooting
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Why dont you grab a 70Ah charger and try and tell us your results then? :good:
In the meantime read carefully what i posted. i stated :' if the phone allows it". Meaning you can put a 2Ah charger but unless the phones charge controller allows it you cant charge in that rate.Ofc you shouldnt charge Lithium batteries with more than 1C in the first place but thats another story.
Finally i ve converted old cellphone chargers i had in a shelf to have USB output and they all work great, though they charge slower since they are 500mAh rated.
We all know that charging with the stock charger is very very slow so i was wondering if i can use a charger that outputs A) 5.2V/2.4A B) 5.1V/2.1A C) 5.0V/1.2A these are all charger that i have which one is the best to use without damaging the battery ????
none, as long as the charger your using isnt weaker than the stock charger, it'll make no difference. Having a 2amp charger might produce more current, but the phones going to accept only what its programmed for, which is what the stock charger outputs.
Its safest to use the stock charger with the stock cable, and if your phones fairly new, don't worry, charging speeds up after a week or two.
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I just got the device the day before yesterday and it takes around 4 hours to charge full from 5%
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I just got the device the day before yesterday and it takes around 4 hours to charge full from 5%
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Phone has power supply control chip that limits the maximum charging current (1A in case of HTC One). Unlike fast USB charging maximum charging current is not something that is possible to be changed from any software.
This might be the stupidest question i have ever asked in XDA forum but..... I really want to know the answer to make sure it won't do anything bad to my Z1.
I used galaxy note 2 charging adapter which is a bit stronger than the original z1 charger (1500mA Vs 2000mA) and found out that charging time difference is quite noticeable. i guess 500mA difference is huge.
Since I read few news that people were experiencing fire or explosion while they were charging (or something, which i don't know if it's 100percent true) i want to know if putting too much power is bad for the Z1.
the charge for z1 is 2A. You can plugin 3A, but it wont take that extra, can only accept max 2A.
Generally speaking having extra 1A wwill heat up device but wont cause fire, unless you put in 1000A then it will explode
long1988 said:
the charge for z1 is 2A. You can plugin 3A, but it wont take that extra, can only accept max 2A.
Generally speaking having extra 1A wwill heat up device but wont cause fire, unless you put in 1000A then it will explode
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wait..what?
.... my charger says 5.0vdc == 1500mA
choihan06 said:
I used galaxy note 2 charging adapter which is a bit stronger than the original z1 charger (1500mA Vs 2000mA) and found out that charging time difference is quite noticeable. i guess 500mA difference is huge.
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Use whichever charger you have. Using a 2A charger will of course decrease charge time. Using a 3A charger will do nothing for you, because phone only accepts 2A if I remember correctly.
long1988 said:
the charge for z1 is 2A. You can plugin 3A, but it wont take that extra, can only accept max 2A.
Generally speaking having extra 1A wwill heat up device but wont cause fire, unless you put in 1000A then it will explode
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Using a 1000A or 3A charger will not make a difference. Phone will not heat up more than using a 2A charger. The phone will draw those 2A and nothing more. Unless there's a custom kernel parameter we can change to increase charging current.
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wait..what?
.... my charger says 5.0vdc == 1500mA
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That is correct. Stock supplied charger is 1.5A, at least in the scandinavian countries.
I charge my Z1 with N7 charger (2.0) and everything is O.K.
Just like guys said - Z1 can use up to 2.0 and it's perfectly safe to use it but make sure charger is good, if you use junk for 1$ you could damage your device.
If we gave 1000$ for device we can pay 10$ more for good charger.
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I only ever use the 1.5A factory charger if I'm leaving it overnight. Its too slow otherwise so I also use a 2A charger from my Asus transformer
Hey you who pretend to know it all, let me clarify
You are saying the official charge is 1.5, but also say it take 2a as well, let me ask you, why do you think the phone can only overcharge up to 2 a and not to 3a as you were denying me?
My charger say it is 2a, it is official, dont being rude and frankly deny other opinion, at least try "from my poimt of view"
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U might have a real special packaging as it usually comes with only 1.5mA
Also snapdragon 800 supports quickcharge 3.0 which allows chargers up to 4.0mA
These chargers will release in 2014
the attached charger with z1 is a 1500mAh charger and i bought a 2100mAh charger which charges faster for sure.I wanna know does this harm the battery?i mean if it was ok why the sony didnt attached a 2100mAh or higher with its flagship!?
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the attached charger with z1 is a 1500mAh charger and i bought a 2100mAh charger which charges faster for sure.I wanna know does this harm the battery?i mean if it was ok why the sony didnt attached a 2100mAh or higher with its flagship!?
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mAh tell you about the capacity of the battery. You can even use 1 million mAh.
..and no it won't harm the phone
It does reduce the battery life. Or at least have a little impact on it.
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It does reduce the battery life. Or at least have a little impact on it.
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Battery life has nothing to to with the capacity of the portable battery? What are you talking about.
Every charging reduces the battery life. That's why it is recommended to only charge the phone when it is at 10-20% and try to charge it to full.
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It does reduce the battery life. Or at least have a little impact on it.
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what exactly impacts the battery ? how a 1500mAh charger doesnt harm it and a 2100 does while its a 3000mah?
NiM72NiK said:
the attached charger with z1 is a 1500mAh charger and i bought a 2100mAh charger which charges faster for sure.I wanna know does this harm the battery?i mean if it was ok why the sony didnt attached a 2100mAh or higher with its flagship!?
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no it won't
it will just charge your phone slightly faster,
if there's more than 2000 input then the phone will put a limit on it. so it should be fine
The discharge rate.
I might be wrong though cause I didn't read properly.
But voltage does have some impact.
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no it won't
it will just charge your phone slightly faster,
if there's more than 2000 input then the phone will put a limit on it. so it should be fine
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why 2000? what wrong with 2500mAh??!! I think 3000should be the limitation because more than that is going to harm it! isnt it right?
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why 2000? what wrong with 2500mAh??!! I think 3000should be the limitation because more than that is going to harm it! isnt it right?
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Well the phone is designed that way, i mean sony engineers should be smarter than us so i assume its a best option.
When i use 2.0A galaxy note3 charger on my z1 it takes about 1500-1700mah but no more than 1700.
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I use a 12000mAh portable charger from New Trent and my phone battery is in perfect shape. It does not harm it in any way. I don't understand where the confusion is coming from.
http://www.amazon.com/New-Trent-iCarrier-Smartphones-Micro-USB/dp/B003ZBZ64Q
mAh is a capacity measure , the bigger the capacity the more times you can charge the phone on a single charge (and usually also the bigger and more expensive the battery)
It's the Amperes which are Voltage/ sec given to your phone that you should worry about. Pretty much all portable chargers are suited to mobile phones and should not cause any harm.
I thought you were talking about travel adapter charger..
Yes current provided and voltage matters.
Silly me I was confused between mah and Amperes..
Thanks man!
But I think he's refering to amperes. Cause the one provided with z1 is 1.5 amp. And the portable battery is 5 ah. So he bought a 2.1 ampere charger.
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the attached charger with z1 is a 1500mAh charger and i bought a 2100mAh charger which charges faster for sure.I wanna know does this harm the battery?i mean if it was ok why the sony didnt attached a 2100mAh or higher with its flagship!?
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There seem to be quite alot of confusion here. I am sure you mean the output of the charger, but if you mean the capacity of a portable charger, then it doesn't matter if it is 1000mAh or 1000,000mAh. But if you mean the output of the charger, then we don't really have a clear answer as this was asked few times in the forum, but I will try to explain the conclusion we came to.
our phone is supposed to support quick charge 2.0 which means in theory, we can use chargers with ~4.0 A (if I remembered correctly). why sony used 1.5 A is not clear, but I don't think using 2.0 A would have any effect except slightly faster charging time. I have been using my SGS4 charger (with 2.0 A output) since I got my Z1 (since release date). Last time I looked for even more powerful chargers ~3 months ago, I found that chargers with 4.0 A output has not been released yet and will be released early 2014. When they are released, i will contact sony and see if I can use it with my Z1 as in theory this should mean half charging time. I hope this helps
it won't harm the battery
The higher mAh rating might not have a direct affect on your phone... But what you said that the battery charges faster is a cause of concern. Do check the output of the charger you got with the battery. If the current rating is higher than your stock charger then maybe you're phone circuits may have problems.
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shem2409 said:
Battery life has nothing to to with the capacity of the portable battery? What are you talking about.
Every charging reduces the battery life. That's why it is recommended to only charge the phone when it is at 10-20% and try to charge it to full.
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Its the other way around, avoid going down to ~10% and try to keep it above 50%
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The higher charger will increase HEAT and heating is the battery most bigger enemy .. Thats it.
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I'm sure he meant the charge rate of the charger.
Maybe it won't affect at all since the charge current rate is set by the battery chip, not by the charger. What the charger label says is the max output current, not necessarily the actual rate.
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Higher current may hurt abit, higher voltage hurts more
Been using the blackberry rapid charger but not overcharging the phone and its been fine, been using it for years. FYI, chargers are measured in volts and amps. The bb one is 2amp and 5 volts.
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You cannot judge or decide anything, except you know what electronic part used by that phone which have specific normal rating and resist maximum ampere. So, everything you do with your charger is Gambling!! But, I suggest not too much the different
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Hi there, I just wanted to try something...
I see that my Z3C charges very slow with the original UK charger. It charges 800mah every sec9nd. So I tried with the iPad charger and it is still the same.. maybe abit lower, at 600mah. what is going on? it takes almost 3-3.5 ahours to charge this phone... seriouslly? Sometimes I forget to charge it overnight and chargin it at day is like charging though a USB port...
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Maths.
2600 mAh battery.
800 mA charger.
2600/800 = 3.25 or 3 hours and 15 minutes.
Today, I don't think this phone can accept anything like 2A charger (don't really know) . Else, it would take 1.3h or 1 hour and 18 minutes.
Get a 2A charger, disconnect every electrical equipment and charge your phone.
Mazzeru said:
Maths.
2600 mAh battery.
800 mA charger.
2600/800 = 3.25 or 3 hours and 15 minutes.
Today, I don't think this phone can accept anything like 2A charger (don't really know) . Else, it would take 1.3h or 1 hour and 18 minutes.
Get a 2A charger, disconnect every electrical equipment and charge your phone.
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But this is strange....If the stock charger says it gives 1.5A, then why is it charging so much slower? at 600 or 800 mah? thats like USB pc speed... Isnt this device supported for quick charge 2.0? I may be able to buy a quick charge capable charger so it charges faster? any solution?
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Ever thought about your phone using power too? Plus some power is lost in heat.
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But this is strange....If the stock charger says it gives 1.5A, then why is it charging so much slower? at 600 or 800 mah? thats like USB pc speed... Isnt this device supported for quick charge 2.0? I may be able to buy a quick charge capable charger so it charges faster? any solution?
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Yes Quickcharging will improve charging time. But as stated above it also depends if you use your phone in the meantime and its idel consumption. The fastest charging time will be if you turn of your phone and then start charging.
I'm getting over 1600mA (according to cooltool), phone charges in 1.5 hours... Factory 1500mA charger, its the same with regular usb and magnetic connector. Rooted 4.4.4
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I'm getting over 1600mA (according to cooltool), phone charges in 1.5 hours... Factory 1500mA charger, its the same with regular usb and magnetic connector. Rooted 4.4.4
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WOW, 1.5 hours, thats just impossible for me. I wonder what is going on... I will check on cooltool
Turn off and charge your phone, and check how fast its charging, mine takes about 1.45hrs with 1.5A factory charger.
Guys I bought a supposed quick charger for my Sony Z3C. When it arrived i read the specs on it and they were 5V 2A. Is it safe to use with my Z3C? If so will it actually make charging quicker?
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It sure is safe (and quick), charge on
so is the stock charger charging at what? it says 1.5A; 800 or as stated 1.5?