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I Suppose I Just Bricked My MotoX?

Hello everyone! As most of you may know, AT&T pushed out an update today for the MotoX. A few weeks ago, I so happened to root my MotoX using PwnMyMoto. I installed the OTA update, without knowing this would **** my phone up as I had read that if you update using OTA it will just undo the root. Now my phone is in a constant boot loop. I can't do anything. By the time the phone gets loaded up and connects to WiFi or anything it reboots.
I suppose I'm screwed? Thanks.

NicholasJohnson said:
Hello everyone! As most of you may know, AT&T pushed out an update today for the MotoX. A few weeks ago, I so happened to root my MotoX using PwnMyMoto. I installed the OTA update, without knowing this would **** my phone up as I had read that if you update using OTA it will just undo the root. Now my phone is in a constant boot loop. I can't do anything. By the time the phone gets loaded up and connects to WiFi or anything it reboots.
I suppose I'm screwed? Thanks.
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So many threads already covering this issue. Search, read, and also post to Q&A forum if you have a question.
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NicholasJohnson said:
Hello everyone! As most of you may know, AT&T pushed out an update today for the MotoX. A few weeks ago, I so happened to root my MotoX using PwnMyMoto. I installed the OTA update, without knowing this would **** my phone up as I had read that if you update using OTA it will just undo the root. Now my phone is in a constant boot loop. I can't do anything. By the time the phone gets loaded up and connects to WiFi or anything it reboots.
I suppose I'm screwed? Thanks.
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So any luck with this? Im trying to figure out how to save the phone if possible myself. Couldn't find the threads mentioned by ^ post.

ronVnor said:
So any luck with this? Im trying to figure out how to save the phone if possible myself. Couldn't find the threads mentioned by ^ post.
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Since your phone is now a useless brick can I buy it from you for $20?
Sent from my Moto X.

Please ignore people who are not considerate enough to link to a post when saying "please search" as if they have actually tried using the search to find information. Because if they had, they could have easily linked you to the corresponding topic, and the discussion would have been over, or they would have found (like i did) limited results on the matter.
Here's an image that should be flashable that includes OTA (cannot revert, or root afterwards at this point)
[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471975]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471975[/URL]
I won't claim to know alot, especially about this device, i'm mainly researching because it is my next device I'm purchasing (very soon). Right now there's not alot of information, but there should be official flashable images available for the phone floating around on XDA or some of the other forums.
I wish i could do more to help you in this situation, the last time i bricked a device (HTC Incredible) i was lucky to find an original image to restore it. This is the best method because an unrooted working phone is better than no phone at all, if that AT&T OTA image doesn't flash, my best recommendation is to look for an original motorola firmware and flash it using fastboot, i don't own the device (yet) so i don't have any specific instructions to help you with.

Destreyf said:
Please ignore people who are not considerate enough to link to a post when saying "please search" as if they have actually tried using the search to find information. Because if they had, they could have easily linked you to the corresponding topic, and the discussion would have been over, or they would have found (like i did) limited results on the matter.
Here's an image that should be flashable that includes OTA (cannot revert, or root afterwards at this point)
[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471975]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471975[/URL]
I won't claim to know alot, especially about this device, i'm mainly researching because it is my next device I'm purchasing (very soon). Right now there's not alot of information, but there should be official flashable images available for the phone floating around on XDA or some of the other forums.
I wish i could do more to help you in this situation, the last time i bricked a device (HTC Incredible) i was lucky to find an original image to restore it. This is the best method because an unrooted working phone is better than no phone at all, if that AT&T OTA image doesn't flash, my best recommendation is to look for an original motorola firmware and flash it using fastboot, i don't own the device (yet) so i don't have any specific instructions to help you with.
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Teach a man to search and he will have near infinite knowledge. Give a man the answer and he will bug the **** out of you every time his brain farts. Jesus said something similar to that. Good stuff.
Lesson: XDA search sucks. Use Google to search XDA. For example use this search phrase: "moto x bootloop after update root site:forum.xda-developers.com"
Consequentially the first result is the one that would get the OP out of his infinite loop of sadness.
Dont cripple people by saying its ok to ask before searching. No one wins.

mentose457 said:
Teach a man to search and he will have near infinite knowledge. Give a man the answer and he will bug the **** out of you every time his brain farts. Jesus said something similar to that. Good stuff.
Lesson: XDA search sucks. Use Google to search XDA. For example use this search phrase: "moto x bootloop after update root site:forum.xda-developers.com"
Consequentially the first result is the one that would get the OP out of his infinite loop of sadness.
Dont cripple people by saying its ok to ask before searching. No one wins.
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Well in this case as you said yourself, "XDA Search Sucks" even i didn't think of that (and i've been using XDA for several years now) so everyone can learn something by asking questions. (also thank you for the info because now i know a better way to search XDA)

mentose457 said:
Since your phone is now a useless brick can I buy it from you for $20?
Sent from my Moto X.
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Psshhhh...I'll give you $50, OP.
Anyway, you need to delete the update from cache. If you can't stay booted long enough to do this from the system, you may have to do it from fastboot (use the command "fastboot erase cache" without the quotes).

[Q] Restore Stock Recovery without a computer?

Is there any way to restore stock recovery without using a computer?
I bought a Verizon Moto X developer edition used and the guy has TWRP on it. So now I can't update to 4.4 with that on here.
I don't care if I lose all data in the process.
I'm just having a ridiculously hard time getting anything to recognize my phone on windows 8.1 and I don't have a ton of time in the first place.
I tried a factory reset from twrp but twrp didn't go away.
I DO have an old laptop with... xp on it if anyone has a step by step guide that works 100% they could point me to?
came from galaxy nexus btw.

TheBungle said:
Is there any way to restore stock recovery without using a computer?
I bought a Verizon Moto X developer edition used and the guy has TWRP on it. So now I can't update to 4.4 with that on here.
I don't care if I lose all data in the process.
I'm just having a ridiculously hard time getting anything to recognize my phone on windows 8.1 and I don't have a ton of time in the first place.
I tried a factory reset from twrp but twrp didn't go away.
I DO have an old laptop with... xp on it if anyone has a step by step guide that works 100% they could point me to?
came from galaxy nexus btw.
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My phone was recognized by windows 8.1 and 7. Sounds like you have an issue with your drivers if its not recognizing the phone.

TheBungle said:
Is there any way to restore stock recovery without using a computer?
I bought a Verizon Moto X developer edition used and the guy has TWRP on it. So now I can't update to 4.4 with that on here.
I don't care if I lose all data in the process.
I'm just having a ridiculously hard time getting anything to recognize my phone on windows 8.1 and I don't have a ton of time in the first place.
I tried a factory reset from twrp but twrp didn't go away.
I DO have an old laptop with... xp on it if anyone has a step by step guide that works 100% they could point me to?
came from galaxy nexus btw.
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you should use the last version of fastboot (or mfastboot), and you can set fastboot.exe to run in win7 compatibility mode

waiflih said:
you should use the last version of fastboot (or mfastboot), and you can set fastboot.exe to run in win7 compatibility mode
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Think you could link me to the best directions for this phone? I'm reading a lot of different threads and must be way over my head. I do remember it being a hassle with my droid x all those years ago

TheBungle said:
Think you could link me to the best directions for this phone? I'm reading a lot of different threads and must be way over my head. I do remember it being a hassle with my droid x all those years ago
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These directions for returning to stock using RSD Lite look pretty good, and include a video:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515

kclantz said:
These directions for returning to stock using RSD Lite look pretty good, and include a video:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
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OK so I've gotten adb working but can't get RSD lite to recognize my device. Can I just use ADB?
I'm so paranoid of bricking my new device that I fought to activate for two weeks. God damn verizon.
edit to add:
I think RDSlite is the way to go. any commonly known way to get it to find my device?

So i use: adb reboot bootloader
from there if I do: adb devices
it comes up blank like there's nothing attatched.
any ideas?
if there's a donate feature, I'll gladly donate a couple beers to anyone that can help me get this working in the next half hour...
It's not much but...

So I got everything working.... I think. RSD Lite seemed to work fine. Letting everything settle in before attempting the 4.4 update...
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
I thought a dev edition would have been a bit more... nexus-ey behind the scenes. Oh well, great device so far...

TheBungle said:
So I got everything working.... I think. RSD Lite seemed to work fine. Letting everything settle in before attempting the 4.4 update...
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
I thought a dev edition would have been a bit more... nexus-ey behind the scenes. Oh well, great device so far...
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Glad you got it figured out, sorry I kind of left you hanging, I got busy at work.
I spent the last two weeks or so bricked and its definitely fun. Be glad you have the Dev edition. My MAXX is not, so I had to wait for the FXZ file to be released, couldn't flash anything else. Not getting the Dev edition was a huge mistake.

[Q] How would you root? I'm on day FOUR of unsuccessful attempts

It started here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530605
I followed this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509676
Got nowhere because of the puttytel window timeout problem.
Related to this post was this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47749358#post47749358
I have an unlocked bootloader on Moto X from sprint. I just need the easiest way to root.
This looked confusing. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2536200. Gotta be another way.
Have considered restoring to stock and taking the dang thing back http://atsgadgets.com/how-to-restor...lite-att-t-mobile-sprint-verizon-us-cellular/. So frustrated.
I've offered paypal to those who can do it successfully. I am so burnt out on trying to make this work. This PITA is not worth android. I have a one click jailbroken phone now. And I have successfully rooted and installed custom roms before but this is totally out of hand how complex this is for me. Maybe I'm just remedial but it seems several are having trouble with this model. For open source, this should not be this tough.
/rant. Almost ready to throw in the towel, but still listening.....
Sorry for the multiple posts. Just trying to get some new opinions. HTC Evo 4 g was done in 10 minutes. This has taken 4 days.
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bullpen7979 said:
I have an unlocked bootloader on Moto X from sprint. I just need the easiest way to root.
This looked confusing. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2536200. Gotta be another way.
Have considered restoring to stock and taking the dang thing back http://atsgadgets.com/how-to-restor...lite-att-t-mobile-sprint-verizon-us-cellular/. So frustrated.
I've offered paypal to those who can do it successfully. I am so burnt out on trying to make this work. This PITA is not worth android. I have a one click jailbroken phone now. And I have successfully rooted and installed custom roms before but this is totally out of hand how complex this is for me. Maybe I'm just remedial but it seems several are having trouble with this model. For open source, this should not be this tough.
/rant. Almost ready to throw in the towel, but still listening.....
Sorry for the multiple posts. Just trying to get some new opinions. HTC Evo 4 g was done in 10 minutes. This has taken 4 days.
:crying:
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Are you on 4.4 and what computer OS are you using?

I am on android version 4.2.2 and windows xp SP 3. thanks for your response, sir.

bullpen7979 said:
I am on android version 4.2.2 and windows xp SP 3. thanks for your response, sir.
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Here, go into Settings -> About Phone and tell me what your Build Number is (at the very bottom).

Do not put in the cmd window mfastboot, just try fastboot flash recovery twrp 2.6.3.1-ghost-4.4.img. Now also put the recovery image in the same folder as fast boot, I believe its SDK tools folder
Sent on my Moto X

bullpen7979 said:
I am on android version 4.2.2 and windows xp SP 3. thanks for your response, sir.
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The method that you thought was confusing, is the one you should use. If I have time, I could try helping you with it.

ALU0506, the build number is 13.9.0Q2.X-116-MX-17-57-1. Thanks everyone for your help.

I have downloaded the files mentioned in the thread. Thats as far as i have gotten. If you have time to help, that would be great. I mean like over the top great

bullpen7979 said:
I have downloaded the files mentioned in the thread. Thats as far as i have gotten. If you have time to help, that would be great. I mean like over the top great
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I can try helping over gtalk.

bullpen7979 said:
I have downloaded the files mentioned in the thread. Thats as far as i have gotten. If you have time to help, that would be great. I mean like over the top great
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Plug in your phone and put it into fastboot by typing adb reboot bootloader then type fastboot devices does it show that you are connected?

I will try that as soon as I can and get back to you. I have two computers one at my hotel and one here. I'm not sure I have the ADB tools on my netbook
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bullpen7979 said:
I will try that as soon as I can and get back to you. I have two computers one at my hotel and one here. I'm not sure I have the ADB tools on my netbook
Sent from my XT1056 using xda app-developers app
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if you are still looking for help i can help you get this done on gtalk as well. send me a pm with your username. it will take virtually no time at all

jayboyyyy said:
if you are still looking for help i can help you get this done on gtalk as well. send me a pm with your username. it will take virtually no time at all
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especially since he already unlocked the bootloader. Just flash recovery, then flash supersu.zip.

aooga said:
especially since he already unlocked the bootloader. Just flash recovery, then flash supersu.zip.
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ya during his four days of misery, he could have just read for 1 hour on the stuff so it would seem confusing anymore and then he would have had a rooted phone. But either way, his problem is solvable with a few simple instructions.

OK Jay/Aooga.
Finally back from work.
Plug in your phone and put it into fastboot by typing adb reboot bootloader then type fastboot devices does it show that you are connected?
open cmd window, typed adb reboot bootloader, and got:
T063202TFL and fastboot, and then a prompt.

OK Jay/Aooga.
Finally back from work.
Plug in your phone and put it into fastboot by typing adb reboot bootloader then type fastboot devices does it show that you are connected?
open cmd window, typed adb reboot bootloader, and got:
T063202TFL and fastboot, and then a prompt.
Phone is in fastboot mode with white, yellow green text.
Device is unlocked. Status code 3.
Battery OK Charging
Transfer mode USB connected.
It looked as though I had to be able to accept the 4.4 kitkat OTA in order to get this done. but when i went to the usual spot to look for system updates it said there were none available.
Anyhow, I am super grateful for your help. Sorry to be such a remedial doofus

Looks like we can wait till tomorrow. Or today. Or whatever timeline it is.

[Q] Having trouble upgrading to 4.4.2 stock on Verizon

I have a Moto X Developer Edition rooted on Verizon with TWRP 2.6.3.1 and stock Android 4.4 on it. I have been trying to upgrade to 4.4.2 without doing the OTA, and without having to reflash TWRP.
So far, I have been unsuccessful.
I have tried Blur_Version.140.45.5.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US.zip (approximate file size 150MB) from multiple sources as all the posts I read keep saying that is what works. I have also tried a ~650MB version I found somewhere. In addition, I tried the upgrade located here: sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0 which is called VZW_XT1060_4.4.2-KXA20.16-1.25.2_CFC_1FF.xml.zip (It's the 4.4.2 upgrade listed under Verizon US).
All of these fail. In TWRP, about 2-3 steps after it verified md5, it simply says "Failed" with no explanation as to why.
Here is my question:
How can I upgrade to 4.4.2 without a data wipe, and without having to reflash TWRP?
I have no interest in going to a ROM, I want to stay stock, and if I must, I will reflash the recovery if I have to, but I *really* don't want to.

Flash stock recovery, take the OTA, flash TWRP again.
It's so simple, so painless, so quick and it will not wipe your data.

tcrews said:
Flash stock recovery, take the OTA, flash TWRP again.
It's so simple, so painless, so quick and it will not wipe your data.
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I was hoping to avoid that (Yep, I really am that lazy...) but that's what I was going to do tonight if I couldn't get my hands on a .zip to flash.
Ironically, I bought the Dev Edition specifically so things like this would be easy.

It is easy.....just need to do it.
I support my sister, her husband and my wife (as well as my own) who all have Moto X's. 2 seconds to flash recovery, however long it takes for the OTA to install and reboot and then 2 seconds to flash TWRP again. Heck...I'd just leave the stock recovery in place since it's not needed if you don't plan on flashing any ROMs. The OTA doesn't even remove root.

tcrews said:
It is easy.....just need to do it.
I support my sister, her husband and my wife (as well as my own) who all have Moto X's. 2 seconds to flash recovery, however long it takes for the OTA to install and reboot and then 2 seconds to flash TWRP again. Heck...I'd just leave the stock recovery in place since it's not needed if you don't plan on flashing any ROMs. The OTA doesn't even remove root.
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Oh, that last bit is good to know! Well, I think even if it did remove root, getting it back is easy on the DE.
I think you're right though, I probably won't install TWRP again, I specifically got the Moto X because I was tired of messing around with stuff when I all I want is a rooted, stock Android experience.

So, after several hours of messing with this, and thinking the stock recovery had gotten messed up because the instructions I had for getting in to it were wrong, I finally got the OTA installing...
and it fails.
I don't know why, I haven't seen the error (I'm not looking at the phone when it fails).
So... Awesome.

Taegost said:
So, after several hours of messing with this, and thinking the stock recovery had gotten messed up because the instructions I had for getting in to it were wrong, I finally got the OTA installing...
and it fails.
I don't know why, I haven't seen the error (I'm not looking at the phone when it fails).
So... Awesome.
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Are there files out so you can just flash 4.4.2 with mfastboot? Would be easiest.

kj2112 said:
Are there files out so you can just flash 4.4.2 with mfastboot? Would be easiest.
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I assume so, but I haven't found any instructions specifically saying how to do that, except for the ones that tell you how to return to stock without using RSD Lite.
Unfortunately, I don't know enough about how all this stuff works to be able to figure out which bits and pieces to put together to get upgraded without wiping my data.
What really pisses me off is that I specifically bought this phone so I wouldn't have issues like this, and here I am...
BTW: The only thing the error says is "Error". That's it, nothing else.

Taegost said:
I assume so, but I haven't found any instructions specifically saying how to do that, except for the ones that tell you how to return to stock without using RSD Lite.
Unfortunately, I don't know enough about how all this stuff works to be able to figure out which bits and pieces to put together to get upgraded without wiping my data.
What really pisses me off is that I specifically bought this phone so I wouldn't have issues like this, and here I am...
BTW: The only thing the error says is "Error". That's it, nothing else.
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This guide has a return to stock section. It will tell you how to flash the stock firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
Unfortunately the moto x is not a simple phone for tinkering with, like say a nexus, even the dev edition.
It can be easier once you do fully understand everything. Just gotta know what applies to you...meaning mostly the locked versus unlocked methods for everything.
After owning an s2, a moto x and now an n5 (n7 too...but I don't tinker with it really....its a family device) I've come to the mind set that for flashers and rooters.....nothing at all beats owning a nexus. Every other device has some limitations that a nexus won't have.

kj2112 said:
This guide has a return to stock section. It will tell you how to flash the stock firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
Unfortunately the moto x is not a simple phone for tinkering with, like say a nexus, even the dev edition.
It can be easier once you do fully understand everything. Just gotta know what applies to you...meaning mostly the locked versus unlocked methods for everything.
After owning an s2, a moto x and now an n5 (n7 too...but I don't tinker with it really....its a family device) I've come to the mind set that for flashers and rooters.....nothing at all beats owning a nexus. Every other device has some limitations that a nexus won't have.
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Yeah, that's the page I was talking about when I said I found the full instructions...
I specifically bought this phone because I didn't want to mess around with it like this, I just wanted to root it so I could use Titantium Backup and be done with it... and now I'm stuck at a halfway point.... Again...
I'll probably end up just doing the full wipe and manually flash to 4.4.2 (RSD Lite doesn't see my device... yay), since I have gone from my mute button not working (with 4.2.2), to a really bad echo for whomever I'm talking to when it's on speakerphone (Even when speakerphone is muted... THAT made for a fun conference call...).

Taegost said:
Yeah, that's the page I was talking about when I said I found the full instructions...
I specifically bought this phone because I didn't want to mess around with it like this, I just wanted to root it so I could use Titantium Backup and be done with it... and now I'm stuck at a halfway point.... Again...
I'll probably end up just doing the full wipe and manually flash to 4.4.2 (RSD Lite doesn't see my device... yay), since I have gone from my mute button not working (with 4.2.2), to a really bad echo for whomever I'm talking to when it's on speakerphone (Even when speakerphone is muted... THAT made for a fun conference call...).
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Flashing stock and rooting on an unlocked Moto x is basically the same as a nexus. It really is simple, once you are familiar with fastboot.
I guess there are toolkits that automate everything....like Samsung's Odin, and there's a few for nexus....but it really doesn't help anyone learn. And that's kinda what this hobby is all about.
But, I am sorry you're having trouble. Not sure what else to add. The guides are there, and they work. Usually. I can't think of anything to add to whats already been said.
Hope it works out for you!

kj2112 said:
Flashing stock and rooting on an unlocked Moto x is basically the same as a nexus. It really is simple, once you are familiar with fastboot.
I guess there are toolkits that automate everything....like Samsung's Odin, and there's a few for nexus....but it really doesn't help anyone learn. And that's kinda what this hobby is all about.
But, I am sorry you're having trouble. Not sure what else to add. The guides are there, and they work. Usually. I can't think of anything to add to whats already been said.
Hope it works out for you!
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I don't think I'm articulating my issue properly. I understand how to do everything in the guides you mentioned, they're a piece of cake. That doesn't solve my problem.
My problem is that I want to get to 4.4.2 WITHOUT wiping my data, but can't do the update via OTA or flashing in recovery. RSD Lite doesn't work either.
The ONLY option I have available to me is to manually push the update with fastboot, which I can definitely do with the instructions provided... But those instructions require me to wipe my data.
I know it's possible to apply the update with fastboot without requiring me to wipe my data, but I don't know enough about the inner workings to know which steps to skip, and which need to be modified, in order to make that happen.

Taegost said:
I don't think I'm articulating my issue properly. I understand how to do everything in the guides you mentioned, they're a piece of cake. That doesn't solve my problem.
My problem is that I want to get to 4.4.2 WITHOUT wiping my data, but can't do the update via OTA or flashing in recovery. RSD Lite doesn't work either.
The ONLY option I have available to me is to manually push the update with fastboot, which I can definitely do with the instructions provided... But those instructions require me to wipe my data.
I know it's possible to apply the update with fastboot without requiring me to wipe my data, but I don't know enough about the inner workings to know which steps to skip, and which need to be modified, in order to make that happen.
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It says right at the bottom of the return to stock section in the guide I linked too.....you can skip
Fastboot erase user data
fastboot erase cache
Though if you have any problems after, you might have to do it again and do erase those, before spending time trying to figure out what's wrong.

kj2112 said:
It says right at the bottom of the return to stock section in the guide I linked too.....you can skip
Fastboot erase user data
fastboot erase cache
Though if you have any problems after, you might have to do it again and do erase those, before spending time trying to figure out what's wrong.
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Wow... Attention to detail -5
Sorry about that, when I looked through that article, I skimmed through and saw that the "Return to Stock" section was (almost) identical to the other instructions I was reading...But I missed that last paragraph when I looked at the link you provided, the directions I was using referenced that article but did not include that last bit...
Thank you for your patients, I feel like a dumbass now *sheepish grin*

Taegost said:
Wow... Attention to detail -5
Sorry about that, when I looked through that article, I skimmed through and saw that the "Return to Stock" section was (almost) identical to the other instructions I was reading...But I missed that last paragraph when I looked at the link you provided, the directions I was using referenced that article but did not include that last bit...
Thank you for your patients, I feel like a dumbass now *sheepish grin*
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No worries!! .
And sorry, its userdata. My keyboard split the words up.
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And, you may very well have issues doing that way. But its worth a shot first. If you do have issues, then you can erase those and repeat the process.

if using fastboot/mfastboot, I would still erase cache, as it doesn't touch your data/apps/config.
Another tip, use this mfastboot -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/X-STUFF/Mfastboot-4.4.zip
or you can use RSDlite to flash the SBF, but there is a corresponding line for "erase data"
Two helpful links that will help explain what you saw...
Taking the OTA -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-OTA.html
various ways to Return to stock -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-ReturnToStock.html

kj2112 said:
No worries!! .
And sorry, its userdata. My keyboard split the words up.
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And, you may very well have issues doing that way. But its worth a shot first. If you do have issues, then you can erase those and repeat the process.
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Alrighty, well I was able to successfully flash to 4.4.2 using the Fastboot instructions. Flashed TWRP afterwards and got root right back. Now that I know, this won't be a trial in the future (fingers crossed!)
Thanks for your help and patience

unrootable (prototype N6)

hey everyone just picked up a prototype N6 from a buddy and having serious issues rooting this verion. i have rooted my other N6 with no issues but this build (shamu-userdebug l lrw80j 1454210 dev-keys) just wont seem to work if anyone can point me in the right direction that would be great ty. this version included a power button on the back of the phone which was nice and why it caught my eye.

What have you tried and where does it fail?
Root is usually unlock bootloader, flash recovery, flash supersu from recovery.
The problem you may have if the hardware is different is that the kernel would then be different, meaning there wont be a version of TWRP with a bootable kernel for your device. So just like you cannot run TWRP for a HTC on the Nexus 6, that could be the same case.

oh ok i see what you mean. everytime it gets to the try to temp load twrp it never seems to boot up im using the toolkit .and now it seems that i can't even boot into the system anymore just into fast boot but i can still use the flash boot flash options in root tool kit and i think you are so right about the kernel but just dont know which one to use i tried restoring /baseband /boot/system with a orignal factory 6.0 but individually but not working . is there a different method you think i can try? ty for your help.

sunnybwoy1 said:
oh ok i see what you mean. everytime it gets to the try to temp load twrp it never seems to boot up im using the toolkit .and now it seems that i can't even boot into the system anymore just fast boot. is there a different method you think i can try? ty for your help
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If you're going to root, recovery is important.
There are apps that can root once booted into android, but you're playing with fire, especially if there hardware is different - as that means you will not have a factory image to flash either. These things are best kept untouched.

Great and I just messed up this systems IMG. cause I'm just stuck at the fastboot now I hope there is away around this. I had a feeling I shouldn't have gotten this version but wanted to be different now it just cost me smfh. Here are the pics of the phone and info

Here are some pics of the phone and build number

sunnybwoy1 said:
Here are some pics of the phone and build number
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I cant think of a way around it. You could try flashing a stock system.img via fastboot but I cant say I'm hopeful and likely will make things worse. Without custom recovery, it is unlikely that you can repair it.
You can of course try and factory reset it. Who knows, may make it boot?

Yea flashing the system. IMG in fastboot made it worst well I used the new android m system so maybe that's why. Not looking good I hope I can get some answers soon or if maybe someone can mod a system. IMG I can use with this hardware .

sunnybwoy1 said:
Yea flashing the system. IMG in fastboot made it worst well I used the new android m system so maybe that's why. Not looking good I hope I can get some answers soon or if maybe someone can mod a system. IMG I can use with this hardware .
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I don't think you'll get help here.

to me, it doesnt look like a n6, it looks like a moto x pro..

simms22 said:
to me, it doesnt look like a n6, it looks like a moto x pro..
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It does, but it definitely does have an engineering bootloader and says shamu XT1103, so it's another one of "those"

danarama said:
It does, but it definitely does have an engineering bootloader and says shamu XT1103, so it's another one of "those"
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yup. i bet it was the moto x pro, but in development still. they probably used all the shamu software on it at first. im curious whether it would take the moto x pro software.

I'm going to try to flash a stock N6 ROM to see if it will load.

Is this prototype the one with fingerprints sensor on the back?

It has a power button on the back.

sunnybwoy1 said:
Great and I just messed up this systems IMG. cause I'm just stuck at the fastboot now I hope there is away around this. I had a feeling I shouldn't have gotten this version but wanted to be different now it just cost me smfh. Here are the pics of the phone and info
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PM Me if you decide to "part" with it.