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EZCast is a competing technology, in some cases it's packaging is just a clone
Dongle acts as ap/wireless router in order to use it.
Client app connects to EZCast wifi and EZCast dongle is connected to home/office wifi network.
EZCast dongle examples:
EZCast M2 III
Measy A2W
Tronsmart T1000
Vsmart v5II
and dozen of others, some even with external antennas.
These dongles are often advertised as Miracast dongles.
Click HERE to view list of XDA threads tagged Miracast
Specification
OS: EZCast ROM(Linux OS) updated mothly
Source code for dongle or apps have never been released.
Majority of EZCast dongles use the same operating system!(regardless of manufacturer)
RAM: DDR3 128MB (or 256MB)
Storage: Single-level cell (SLC) NAND Flash memory: 128 MB
Chipset: Actions-Micro AM8251 600 MHz (or 1GHz)
Networking: Realtek RTL8188 Wifi Module 2.4Ghz. 802.11 B/G/N(150Mb) - WEP/WPA/WPA2, unfortunately WPS is enabled.
Video Outputs: 480p (HDMI), 720p (HDMI), 1080p (HDMI)
Support Video-formats: avi, divx, mkv, ts, dat, vob, mpg, mpeg, mov, mp4, rm, rmvb, wmv, etc.
Support Subtitles: ..smi , *.srt, *.cdg on Android and iOS, on PC Windows platform it's not supported yet.
Support Audio-formats: MP1, MP2, MP3， WMA, OGG, ADPCM-WAV, PCM-WAV, AAC etc
Support Picture-formats: JPEG, BMP, PNG etc.
Support File-formats: Adobe PDF, MS Word, Ms Excel, Ms Powerpoint, etc.
Standards: Ezcast, Miracast(its not possible to use it directly with Intel WiDi/Windows 8 built features, it requires EZCast windows app), DLNA, Airplay
Power Input: 5.0V- 0,3A to 1.0A depends on dongle, usually 0,5A
power adapter: USB powered
System Requirements: Requires a laptop, smartphone, or tablet support Miracast wireless display; HDTV with available HDMI input
software inside:
BIND 9.9.2-P1 (Jan 22 2013)
thttpd/2.25b 29dec2003
hostapd v0.6.9 20009-03-23
udhcpd
Unboxing and review VIDEOs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGFFJJxMaWI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loDi34vbqeE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9768N0-Ilg
Chromecast vs EZCast(tronsmart t1000) review
http://liliputing.com/2013/12/tronsmart-t1000-miracast-wireless-display-adapter-giveaway.html
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Security - In terms of security both products are flawed:
*Chromecast acts as open AP if is not connected to, in case of rooted it allows to steal your ESSID and PASSPHRASE
*EZCast(Measy A2W in my case but it's just EZCast standard)
EZCast is by default protected by WPA2 and 8 digit passphrase which is fair.
Dongle acts as ap/wireless router in order to use it. Client app connects to EZCast wifi and EZCast dongle is connected to main wifi network.
1. EZCast Dongle has for some unknown reason WPS enabled.
WPS is broken/hackable via WASH/REAVER since December 2011. Fixed in firmware 13886 (Aug 2015)
2. EZCast has always the same ESSID(should be an option to change it), also 32 characters limitation.(fixed in 2015)
3. It's not possible to hide ESSID broadcasting.
4. Passphrase to it's network is always limited to 8 ASCII characters, which is too short, should beup to 63ascii/64hex characters.
5. AP that EZCast can connect to has to be about ESSID 16 character long/16 characters long, should be ESSID 32 chanracter long and passphrase 63 ascii or if 64 hex character long.
6. After dongle factory reset initial WPA2 passphrase is always the same(returns to stock value), should be randomized.
7. I find it strange that iezvu .com collects unique ESSID, email, IP, while default WPA2 password is the same after each dongle reset.
Probably there is a correlation between ESSID, MAC and passphrase - guys from RouterKeygen are good at finding this....
https://code.google.com/p/android-thomson-key-solver/
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For mirroring desktop/expanding desktop EZCast is superior to Chromecast Stream can be about 30 - 35Mbps.
You may stream up to 4 desktops at once to one screen1/ split 2/split 4, I have tried only 2 at time.
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If it comes to playing movies (nearly all formats supported) with EZCast Windows it runs fluid in Video Mode, but without subtitles.
It's also possible to watch movie with subtitles with screen mirroring but it's not so enjoyable - slightly tearing.
You may also stream audio files.
It's supposed to be better from Android phone but i just have tried audio/video/camera live stream
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Video cloud storage playback is available in android and it is fully enjoyable. YT, Vimeo, around 50 sites supported. It works in similar way as chromecast.
Even more sites supported for Chinese consumers.
For cloud video streaming for this moment Chromecast may be a winner, but EZCast is in active development - monthly cycle. Chromecast development is still slow.
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Price of EZCast dongle is about $30-$35 so it's very similar to Chromecast price.
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Links:
Main EZCast technology site:
http://www.iezvu.com/index.php?l=en
EZCast on Google+:
https://plus.google.com/100070160405847243669/posts
https://plus.google.com/communities/112623351806986703053
EZCast on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/iezcast
Latest FW changelog:
http://www.iezvu.com/upgrade/ezcast/appupgrade/update.php?&al=US
ROM is definitely moddable.
Main link of ezCast OS 11283:
http://www.iezvu.com/upgrade/ezcast/ezcast.bin
Client EZCast Apps:
http://www.iezvu.com/index.php?m=download&a=index&id=29&l=en
Android EZCast app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.actionsmicro.ezcast
EZCast forum:
http://www.iezvu.com/bbs-en/
Manuals:
http://www.iezvu.com/bbs-en/viewforum.php?f=3&sid=f8f72e91923e869d137e256a638fb1c6
http://www.ezcast-wifidisplay.com/manual/EZCast-quick-installation-guide.pdf
Why to post is in Chromecast subforum? The product fills the gap that CC fails to fill yet.
PS: I am not affiliated with iezvu.com in any way.
measy a2w + mtk6577
I have the measy a2w. miracast works well with android 4.2.
But for my 3 phones/phablets with mtk6577 chip and running android 4.1. It was difficult. The EZcast app wouldn't install. I figured out how finally. I had to add the .apk app file to /data/app manually and set permission to rw-r--r--, then reboot.
The manual is a joke, as always. It doesn't even talk about miracast.
settings > display > wireless display > search device > connect
That's all it takes for android 4.2.
Ok this kinda suck then if subs dont work the way it has to.
I'm half deaf and I need subs to understand what they are saying.
If they can't fix this, then it's not worth to buy it.
I've seen the video on Youtube and it's just a tutorial how to get it work and that's it.
Some functions are not explained well...or if it exist.
It's more like 'look we got a chromecast copy and this are the functions and some will not work''.
If they want to sell a product, then they have to take the time to show it so people can say WOW...worth the money.
But no you get questions after questions.
Anyway...lets hope most video player apps will add chromecast support asap since Google released the developers kit.
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Ok this kinda suck then if subs dont work the way it has to.
I'm half deaf and I need subs to understand what they are saying.
If they can't fix this, then it's not worth to buy it.
I've seen the video on Youtube and it's just a tutorial how to get it work and that's it.
Some functions are not explained well...or if it exist.
It's more like 'look we got a chromecast copy and this are the functions and some will not work''.
If they want to sell a product, then they have to take the time to show it so people can say WOW...worth the money.
But no you get questions after questions.
Anyway...lets hope most video player apps will add chromecast support asap since Google released the developers kit.
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In full screen mirroring its possible to watch with subs, its just not too enjoyable while dynamical motion, its much better than chromecast full screen or tab mirroring.
mathorv said:
In full screen mirroring its possible to watch with subs, its just not too enjoyable while dynamical motion, its much better than chromecast full screen or tab mirroring.
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AH I forgot about the mirroring!
But the quality won't be that good if you have to mirror it instead of streaming the video.
The other thing with EZcast is that it doesn't take over all the work like Chromecast does.
So your phone is still consuming power to run the media? Correct me if I'm wrong.
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AH I forgot about the mirroring!
But the quality won't be that good if you have to mirror it instead of streaming the video.
The other thing with EZcast is that it doesn't take over all the work like Chromecast does.
So your phone is still consuming power to run the media? Correct me if I'm wrong.
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You are probably right(i have not tested it with android.) You may ask on their (iezvu) forum. I bought Measy A2W (EZCast dongle) because of decent screen mirroring and flawless movie playback with any format(on PC i did not succeeded to use subs) , things that Chromecast is totally missing.
Added plenty of info on the subect
Also Chromecast vs EZCast (Tronesmart T1000) review.
http://liliputing.com/2013/12/tronsmart-t1000-miracast-wireless-display-adapter-giveaway.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhOrJHdWgTY
I have the Ezcast M2 and it works flawless if I'm near my wifi router, but if I'm downstair, there are massive lags when viewing in 720p and higher. It kept buffering. I believe Miracast acts more like bluetooth which is based on distance I wish there's a way to improve this. If anyone have any idea how to fix this lag, please chime in.
xterminater07 said:
I have the Ezcast M2 and it works flawless if I'm near my wifi router, but if I'm downstair, there are massive lags when viewing in 720p and higher. It kept buffering. I believe Miracast acts more like bluetooth which is based on distance I wish there's a way to improve this. If anyone have any idea how to fix this lag, please chime in.
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Be sure it's updated to 11391, place it not too close to the wall/floor, you may use hdmi extender for tests.
Generally this device should be placed in line of sight not another floor.
It depends on how good is wifi adapter is used. If its not in 802.11n(150Mbps+) or newer such as 802.11ac card there is high chance for lags.
Cast movies via Video mode not mirror screen mode.
mathorv said:
Be sure it's updated to 11391, place it not too close to the wall/floor, you may use hdmi extender for tests.
Generally this device should be placed in line of sight not another floor.
It depends on how good is wifi adapter is used. If its not in 802.11n(150Mbps+) or newer such as 802.11ac card there is high chance for lags.
Cast movies via Video mode not mirror screen mode.
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I have my ezcast plugged into my Yamaha receiver to have surround sound, and the router I have is a linksys e2500 dual band. I have most stuff connected through the 5ghz channel, leaving the 2ghz dedicated to guest and ezcast or any other devices. Both bands are on wireless N only, and it's not pointed toward the wall or on the floor, it's sitting on top of my tv stand. My router is fine I have no issues with the roku 2 xs, just the ezcast is always buffering on 720p when streaming from youtube, and 1080p as well. I have the latest firmware and the app update as well. Any more suggestion?
xterminater07 said:
I have my ezcast plugged into my Yamaha receiver to have surround sound, and the router I have is a linksys e2500 dual band. I have most stuff connected through the 5ghz channel, leaving the 2ghz dedicated to guest and ezcast or any other devices. Both bands are on wireless N only, and it's not pointed toward the wall or on the floor, it's sitting on top of my tv stand. My router is fine I have no issues with the roku 2 xs, just the ezcast is always buffering on 720p when streaming from youtube, and 1080p as well. I have the latest firmware and the app update as well. Any more suggestion?
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Not much(I doubt it will help):
Update routers firmware.
Experiment with router position - should not be too close to wall/floor or other high density objects.
Be sure you use 40MHz channel width and experiment with different wireless channels.
cheap signal booster example, it'll be hard to direct it between floors
http://lifehacker.com/5839243/use-an-aluminum-can-as-a-wi+fi-extender
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZD3MZZTpeY
http://lifehacker.com/296367/boost-your-wireless-signal-with-a-homemade-wifi-extender
Alternatively just forget about it.
mathorv said:
Be sure it's updated to 11391, place it not too close to the wall/floor, you may use hdmi extender for tests.
Generally this device should be placed in line of sight not another floor.
It depends on how good is wifi adapter is used. If its not in 802.11n(150Mbps+) or newer such as 802.11ac card there is high chance for lags.
Cast movies via Video mode not mirror screen mode.
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mathorv said:
Not much(I doubt it will help):
Update routers firmware.
Experiment with router position - should not be too close to wall/floor or other high density objects.
Be sure you use 40MHz channel width and experiment with different wireless channels.
cheap signal booster example, it'll be hard to direct it between floors
http://lifehacker.com/5839243/use-an-aluminum-can-as-a-wi+fi-extender
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZD3MZZTpeY
http://lifehacker.com/296367/boost-your-wireless-signal-with-a-homemade-wifi-extender
Alternatively just forget about it.
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It's working so far, but I noticed my ios youtube native app no longer can airplay to the ezcast! It keep telling me playback error, however if i use the "web" function of the ezcast app it works flawless.
a quick update on this... I tried the ezmirror using my laptop and it plays 720p and 1080p perfect! I don't know why when playing over tablet or iphone it lags so much! Any experts in here know how to sniff out the protocol it uses?
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a quick update on this... I tried the ezmirror using my laptop and it plays 720p and 1080p perfect! I don't know why when playing over tablet or iphone it lags so much! Any experts in here know how to sniff out the protocol it uses?
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Be sure that you use latest version of app.
EZCast 1.1.150 Feb 01, 2014 https://itunes.apple.com/en/app/ezcast/id677053215
It requires iOS 6.1 or later and is optimized for iPhone 5.
Use Wireshark on Linux or OS X platform if you want to " sniff out the protocol it uses"
https://www.wireshark.org/download.html
Alternatively read specs and manuals from links in OP(Opening post).
Or even visit their forum that's linked in OP and ask there.
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That's cool that I helped to solve your problems.
You didn't mention what worked and you don't even bother to say thank you.
mathorv said:
Be sure that you use latest version of app.
EZCast 1.1.150 Feb 01, 2014 https://itunes.apple.com/en/app/ezcast/id677053215
It requires iOS 6.1 or later and is optimized for iPhone 5.
Use Wireshark on Linux or OS X platform if you want to " sniff out the protocol it uses"
https://www.wireshark.org/download.html
Alternatively read specs and manuals from links in OP(Opening post).
Or even visit their forum that's linked in OP and ask there.
P.S.
That's cool that I helped to solve your problems.
You didn't mention what worked and you don't even bother to say thank you.
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I have iphone 5 but running ios 7. I am on windows lapto so I can't use that wireshark! Also I have not forget to say thank u to u, just we have not finished solving this issue that is all eheeeh don't misunderstand! I greatly appreciate all anyone does to help troubleshoot!
xterminater07 said:
I have iphone 5 but running ios 7. I am on windows lapto so I can't use that wireshark! Also I have not forget to say thank u to u, just we have not finished solving this issue that is all eheeeh don't misunderstand! I greatly appreciate all anyone does to help troubleshoot!
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Two answers at once:
1. Technologies used on iOS - Ezair(Airplay)
2. There are known issues on iOS 7 with no workaround.
According to developer "yuanwei" it should be fixed within a month. SOURCE
Thank u! I did see their forums but it looks very inactive thats why I didnt bother posting there! Odd how it worked before on native youtube app but not anymore! It's like random.... Also I wish they have a stronger antenna bc I cannot connect to any other channel besides auto! It also took me awhile to connect to the tv via my laptop, but it connected fine now. Major lags within the windows OS when using ezmirror but youtube stream and flash contents are on sync with the laptop!
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...and the router I have is a linksys e2500 dual band. I have most stuff connected through the 5ghz channel, leaving the 2ghz dedicated to guest and ezcast or any other device
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It's worth to read about linksys routers vulnerability
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/17/linksys_vuln_confirmed_as_a_hnap1_bug/
I have the Tronsmart T1000 and have been using it for a couple of months to stream from both Android and Windows.
I have used both Miracast with Android and also using the devices built in WiFi network to stream from Android and Windows. Miracast is a little laggy and buggy but typically works fine. Sometimes with larger video files there is a .5 second sync issue with audio and video but it is not present at all times.
The Tronsmart (and devices like it) really do fill a gap that the CC doesn't. If anyone has any questions about the Tronsmart T1000 let me know!
@mathorv
I'm waiting for my Measy A2W right now. Can you tell me how is the situation with multichannel sound? I see on my Galaxy Note 2 (Android 4.3) that there is option for surround sound on HDMI output, but I guess it's just some kind of Virtual Surround. At least I didn't get any DTS or Dolby Digitial signs on my amplituner (I was using mhl adapter). Would I be able to get proper 5.1 surround sound out of Measy A2W with GN2 or will I have to stick to Dolby Prologic? I've heard that Chromecast can output multichannel sound so maybe this baby can do this too?
I have a lg smart TV with miracast and even though it shows my moto x as available it won't connect. The moto x does not show the TV available, miracast on the tv does the device search but the moto does not search for a device. Any one tried to use miracast?
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You should be searching devices from your phone. Go to settings display wireless display and try to search while miracast is enabled on your TV you're basically setting up a hotspot from phone to TV
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That's what i did and the phone does not find the TV but if use the TV WiFi direct search it finds the phone and will attempt to connect fails. So why will the phone not find the TV but the tv will the find the phone?
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kenrw7 said:
That's what i did and the phone does not find the TV but if use the TV WiFi direct search it finds the phone and will attempt to connect fails. So why will the phone not find the TV but the tv will the find the phone?
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My smart tv is a bit finicky like that. Try going into the app you want on the tv and you should be presented with a way to connect to it through the browser. ie. when I use the youtube app to cast to my tv I have to scan a barcode first that is provided through the tv's youtube app interface before I can begin casting. Once I disconnect from my tv I have to do the process all over again. Maybe yours is the same way? Doesn't hurt to troubleshoot and see what options you have available.
I want to share my pictures or even video taken on the phone but there is not a share option to share with a TV available. I hoped to play on the phone and share via miracast to the TV. And not having a HDMI or mhl connection is a deal breaker for me ( thought miracast would make up for the lack of hdmi /mhl). What a waste of money this phone has been!, its a phone I can't recommend until a solution is available.
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Further information
1) Is the TV's firmware up to date?* yes
2) Are you using an app to get the two devices to talk to one another, or just the native Android Miracast support? native
3) Are you using the Wireless Display settings or Cast Screen - because Cast Screen is just for Chromecast.* Wireless display setting, getting closer now as I've turned off the TV's widi option and using wifi direct the phone finds the TV and TV responds requesting to accept phone connection but after about 45-60 seconds of the 120 this fails.
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kenrw7 said:
Further information
1) Is the TV's firmware up to date?* yes
2) Are you using an app to get the two devices to talk to one another, or just the native Android Miracast support? native
3) Are you using the Wireless Display settings or Cast Screen - because Cast Screen is just for Chromecast.* Wireless display setting, getting closer now as I've turned off the TV's widi option and using wifi direct the phone finds the TV and TV responds requesting to accept phone connection but after about 45-60 seconds of the 120 this fails.
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So there's no solution what a shame thought this was a great phone until now what a big let down a Motorola fail.
Note to self Buy a phone that has a HDMI !
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Note to self,buy miracast certified tv/dongle.clearly the problem is your tv,search for solución un tv's manual. My miracast dongle works perfectly
ganasiff said:
Note to self,buy miracast certified tv/dongle.clearly the problem is your tv,search for solución un tv's manual. My miracast dongle works perfectly
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The TV is Miracast certified.
http://www.wi-fi.org/content/search-page?keys=32LS
4 Wi-Fi CERTIFIED™ products matching "32LS" | See All
LED LCD TV
LG Electronics 32LS575S-ZD LED LCD TV
LG Electronics 32LS575T-ZD LED LCD TV mine
LG Electronics 32LS5700-UA LED LCD TV
LG Electronics 32LS570T-ZA
So getting a dongle would be added expense with NO guarantee that it would work, being wifi certified is no guarantee
It is a phone problem I initiate using the , the TV accepts and responds with request from phone to connect but the phone does not respond.
kenrw7 said:
The TV is Miracast certified.
http://www.wi-fi.org/content/search-page?keys=32LS
4 Wi-Fi CERTIFIED™ products matching "32LS" | See All
LED LCD TV
LG Electronics 32LS575S-ZD LED LCD TV
LG Electronics 32LS575T-ZD LED LCD TV mine
LG Electronics 32LS5700-UA LED LCD TV
LG Electronics 32LS570T-ZA
So getting a dongle would be added expense with NO guarantee that it would work, being wifi certified is no guarantee
It is a phone problem I initiate using the , the TV accepts and responds with request from phone to connect but the phone does not respond.
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You need to search for the TV from your phone go look on YouTube maybe get really close and try again.
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kenrw7 said:
The TV is Miracast certified.
http://www.wi-fi.org/content/search-page?keys=32LS
4 Wi-Fi CERTIFIED™ products matching "32LS" | See All
LED LCD TV
LG Electronics 32LS575S-ZD LED LCD TV
LG Electronics 32LS575T-ZD LED LCD TV mine
LG Electronics 32LS5700-UA LED LCD TV
LG Electronics 32LS570T-ZA
So getting a dongle would be added expense with NO guarantee that it would work, being wifi certified is no guarantee
It is a phone problem I initiate using the , the TV accepts and responds with request from phone to connect but the phone does not respond.
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What exactly are you looking to do? Since you mention Miracast, I'm guessing you want to "share" or "stream" your X's display onto your TV.
As for the certification for your TV.. Please look closer at the certification certificate for that TV... -> http://certifications.prod.wi-fi.org/pdf/certificate/public/download?cid=WFA15025 while it lists various WIFI certifications (like for basic wifi connectivity needed to connect to a hot spot and use the SmartTV & DLNA features), it does not list Miracast. Where as the certificate for a TV such as the LG 55LB6300 -> http://certifications.prod.wi-fi.org/pdf/certificate/public/download?cid=WFA52662 DOES list Miracast.
LG's web site -> http://www.lg.com/uk/tvs/lg-32LS575T-smart-tvs doesn't list Miracast, but does show WIDI and Wifi display, which as far as I understand, are different than Miracast.
So like Bluetooth, WIFI certification does not mean that ALL possible features/protocols are included in the certified device.
I don't believe the X supports WIDI or Wifi Display. But it is supposed to support Wifi Direct (according to its certification certificate)
Since your TV supports Wifi Direct, shouldn't it be able to be used? Well, from my understanding, you can transfer content via Wifi direct, but I don't think you can "stream" them from your phone to TV's screen this way. (Samsung illustrates the process of Wifi Direct here -> http://www.samsung.com/us/support/howtoguide/N0000005/7954/53595 and it only transfers files, you'd then need to navigate the "target" device's internal storage to locate and play the content that was transferred). However this Sony video -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_QrYSEN2Vo implies you can play a video or picture on your phone, and have it show on your TV. I'll have to try that later today when I get a chance.
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What exactly are you looking to do? Since you mention Miracast, I'm guessing you want to "share" or "stream" your X's display onto your TV.
As for the certification for your TV.. Please look closer at the certification certificate for that TV... -> http://certifications.prod.wi-fi.org/pdf/certificate/public/download?cid=WFA15025 while it lists various WIFI certifications (like for basic wifi connectivity needed to connect to a hot spot and use the SmartTV & DLNA features), it does not list Miracast. Where as the certificate for a TV such as the LG 55LB6300 -> http://certifications.prod.wi-fi.org/pdf/certificate/public/download?cid=WFA52662 DOES list Miracast.
LG's web site -> http://www.lg.com/uk/tvs/lg-32LS575T-smart-tvs doesn't list Miracast, but does show WIDI and Wifi display, which as far as I understand, are different than Miracast.
So like Bluetooth, WIFI certification does not mean that ALL possible features/protocols are included in the certified device.
I don't believe the X supports WIDI or Wifi Display. But it is supposed to support Wifi Direct (according to its certification certificate)
Since your TV supports Wifi Direct, shouldn't it be able to be used? Well, from my understanding, you can transfer content via Wifi direct, but I don't think you can "stream" them from your phone to TV's screen this way. (Samsung illustrates the process of Wifi Direct here -> http://www.samsung.com/us/support/howtoguide/N0000005/7954/53595 and it only transfers files, you'd then need to navigate the "target" device's internal storage to locate and play the content that was transferred).
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Thank you for your comments.
I understand that Miracast is limited to Wi-Fi Direct supported devices.
I want to mirror the phone display on the TV and by that means stream video on the phone to the TV.
You quote "I don't believe the X supports WIDI or Wifi Display." so why in phone settings is Wireless Display option, this what used with the TV wireless display on (under the Widi option trying to connect to the phone I get get on phone saying widi is not supported).
The phone searches for the TV shows available tap option to connect phone show waiting for connection, at this time the TV shows phone available tick and select TV asks do you wish to connect yes next screen is waiting for connection time limit to connect is 120 seconds.
Phone responds after about 80-110 seconds connection failed.
I agree LG do not show the TV as miracast enabled but do state it has wireless display connectivity ( and widi connectivity), so I may be quote miracast in error.
Also both the TV and the moto X are list by the Wifi Alliance as certified for wireless display connectivity which is widi or miracast.
So having devices certified is not a prerequisite to connectivity, so what is the point of the wifi alliance.
I was naive to believe that devices that are have wifi alliance approvals would also connect to each other, it either LG or it Motorola, I've the question with LG support they blame Motorola. I've got no answer from the Motorola support.
So I'll not be changing the TV but I can change the phone (unless someone can provide a solution
the only true way to mirror the phone on the TV is HDMIor MHL so the next phone will have either a HDMI or MHL connectivity, wireless display just does not work, there are too many industry standards, the wifi alliance is not providing a prerequisite that all devices connect.
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Thank you for your comments.
I understand that Miracast is limited to Wi-Fi Direct supported devices.
I want to mirror the phone display on the TV and by that means stream video on the phone to the TV.
You quote "I don't believe the X supports WIDI or Wifi Display." so why in phone settings is Wireless Display option, this what used with the TV wireless display on (under the Widi option trying to connect to the phone I get get on phone saying widi is not supported).
The phone searches for the TV shows available tap option to connect phone show waiting for connection, at this time the TV shows phone available tick and select TV asks do you wish to connect yes next screen is waiting for connection time limit to connect is 120 seconds.
Phone responds after about 80-110 seconds connection failed.
I agree LG do not show the TV as miracast enabled but do state it has wireless display connectivity ( and widi connectivity), so I may be quote miracast in error.
Also both the TV and the moto X are list by the Wifi Alliance as certified for wireless display connectivity which is widi or miracast.
So having devices certified is not a prerequisite to connectivity, so what is the point of the wifi alliance.
I was naive to believe that devices that are have wifi alliance approvals would also connect to each other, it either LG or it Motorola, I've the question with LG support they blame Motorola. I've got no answer from the Motorola support.
So I'll not be changing the TV but I can change the phone (unless someone can provide a solution
the only true way to mirror the phone on the TV is HDMIor MHL so the next phone will have either a HDMI or MHL connectivity, wireless display just does not work, there are too many industry standards, the wifi alliance is not providing a prerequisite that all devices connect.
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You need to look into it further. The Wireless display option on the X under App Drawer -> Settings -> Display -> Wireless Display... the learn more link takes me to -> http://help.motorola.com/hc/apps/wd/10/en-us/lm-wireless.html which states "To get started, you need a Miracast™ compatible HDTV or a Miracast wireless display adapter to connect to your HDTV"
As for the Wifi Alliance and certification... there are basic wifi connection standards which ensure interoperability between devices, brands, etc. And then there are wifi features that can be add on. This doesn't mean every Wireless N device supports all the same features (look at Wifi N.. you can have 2.4ghz or dualband 2.4Ghz+5Ghz Wifi N).
To help explain that better, think of Bluetooth and phones.. something OLD I wrote up -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/BT-PHONE.htm all the phones listed on that page are BT certified... But notice the different profiles each support? Same thing with wifi and wifi certification.
for the rest, I'm late for my son's T-ball game, so I'll reply later when I get a chance...
LG have sent email TV network setting and disable soft AP as miracast works when disabled. I've yet to find that setting option when do I'll report back
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LG have sent email TV network setting and disable soft AP as miracast works when disabled. I've yet to find that setting option when do I'll report back
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edit not found AP setting.
But easily connected my windows tablet to the TV using Intelwidi
KidJoe
Thank you for time taken and advice given. Ive resigned myself to the fact that I'm unable to connect the phone to the TV. As said earlier it is easier to change the phone, no matter how good the moto x is (which it is) it may be a lg fault but I'm not I'm not getting the functuallity I want.
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Now that I have some time, I just want to dive into this a little more so we both understand this a little better... I'm no expert on this stuff, I'm just learning...
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I understand that Miracast is limited to Wi-Fi Direct supported devices.
I want to mirror the phone display on the TV and by that means stream video on the phone to the TV.
You quote "I don't believe the X supports WIDI or Wifi Display." so why in phone settings is Wireless Display option, this what used with the TV wireless display on (under the Widi option trying to connect to the phone I get get on phone saying widi is not supported).
The phone searches for the TV shows available tap option to connect phone show waiting for connection, at this time the TV shows phone available tick and select TV asks do you wish to connect yes next screen is waiting for connection time limit to connect is 120 seconds.
Phone responds after about 80-110 seconds connection failed.
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From what I've been able to find and read on the subject, Wifi Display, WiDi, and WiFi Direct are different. WiDi is an intel standard that has been out for a few years. Its used by intel based PC's and laptops to use a TV as a monitor without wires. Wifi Direct can connect two wifi devices directly, and can be used to transfer files. Wifi Display I'm still learning about as it appears to just be an underlying component to Miracast and Miracast Certification, not something used separately.
from the 5 Frequently Asked Questions on -> http://www.wi-fi.org/content/search-page?keys=Wifi display#.U2-IAIFdUhE
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[B]What is the difference between Miracast and Wi-Fi Display?[/B]
Miracast is the brand for the certification program operated by Wi-Fi Alliance. Devices that pass this certification testing can be referred to as “Miracast devices”. Miracast certification is based on the Wi-Fi Alliance Wi-Fi Display Specification. This is the underlying technological specification developed by Wi-Fi Alliance members, and is copyrighted and owned by Wi-Fi Alliance.
[b]How is Miracast related to Wi-Fi Direct?[/b]
Wi-Fi Direct allows devices to connect directly to each other, without the need for a Wi-Fi AP, and requiring just the push of a button, the entry of a PIN, or tapping two NFC-capable devices together. Wi-Fi Direct allows source and display devices to discover one another and provides the underlying device-to-device connectivity for Miracast. Miracast builds upon Wi-Fi Direct with mechanisms to negotiate video capabilities, setup content protection (if needed), stream content, and maintain the video session.
kenrw7 said:
I agree LG do not show the TV as miracast enabled but do state it has wireless display connectivity ( and widi connectivity), so I may be quote miracast in error.
Also both the TV and the moto X are list by the Wifi Alliance as certified for wireless display connectivity which is widi or miracast.
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Widi is NOT Miracast, see the above WiDi link I supplied. WiDi and Wifi Display are not listed on the certification documents for your TV and the X, only Wifi-Direct. In addition to Wifi-Direct, the certification sheet for the X also lists Miracast-Source.
So with the LG web site claiming Widi and Wifi Display, they might not have received certification for it. Why can they show the wifi alliance certificaiton on their box? Maybe because they received certifications for the other parts (like wifi-direct and connectivity)?
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So having devices certified is not a prerequisite to connectivity, so what is the point of the wifi alliance.
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There are various levels of Wifi Alliance certification. Basic connection, Basic interoperability standards, backwards compatibility, etc. They ensure that you pick up a Wireless G card from belkin and it connects to your Netgear Wireless G router, or that your wireless N card can work with your B, G, or N router properly, etc. Just that "connect" needs Wifi Alliance certification, and that is enough to bare the symbol on the box. Then there are the "add-ons" like Wifi Direct, Miracast, etc.
My older LG BD390 and BD570 bluray players have the Wifi Certification logo on the box. Only wireless they can do is make a connection to a B, G, or N access point.
Think of it this way... You can buy a Buick Verano... get it equipped with or without Nav, with our without leather type interior, with or without sunroof... but any way you buy it, its a Buick Verano. Yeah, its not the best analogy, but I hope it, and the bluetooth link for the older phones I provided, illustrates different configuration possibilities while still being able to have the "certification" logo.
Oh, and there is similar dis-function in the DLNA certification process!! (even though my BD390 and BD570 received DLNA certification and have the logo on the sides of their boxes, they do not properly adhere to DLNA standards so some DLNA servers like Serviio and others don't properly work with them)
kenrw7 said:
I was naive to believe that devices that are have wifi alliance approvals would also connect to each other, it either LG or it Motorola, I've the question with LG support they blame Motorola. I've got no answer from the Motorola support.
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Each vendor is going to blame the other. That is how it goes. They build their devices to a "standard" and get it "certified" so they think it must be the other guy's fault.
kenrw7 said:
So I'll not be changing the TV but I can change the phone (unless someone can provide a solution
the only true way to mirror the phone on the TV is HDMIor MHL so the next phone will have either a HDMI or MHL connectivity, wireless display just does not work, there are too many industry standards, the wifi alliance is not providing a prerequisite that all devices connect.
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As suggested earlier, you could buy a real Miracast dongle for your TV. It will probably be more cost effective than replacing the phone.
Or you could by a Samsung phone. I think they still support MHL on the S5. Or they support their AllCast Share (which would need a device for your TV to make work).
All that being said, the Wifi Alliance Certification certificate for my Sony KDL-5HX750 is very similar to yours, except your TV supports 5Ghz A band wifi, where mine does not. Both only list WPA/WPA2 Security, Wifi B, G, N, Wifi-Direct, WMM, and WPS.
The X (XT1060/XT1050/XT941L) lists those plus support for Wifi Direct and Miracast Source.
So in the interest of this discussion, and to see what is possible, I tried Wifi Direct via the following -> http://www.sony-asia.com/microsite/bravia_i-manuals/FY11/GA/eng/HX920_DS/nt_wfdirect.html and I can make the connection. If I follow -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0wnkZUVDKs I get to the 1:20 mark just fine, and the connection is established. The video then demonstrates "throwing" content from the device. The built in video player and photo gallery apps on the X do not have these options, unless I can find an add on app in the store?
I need to better understand the statement of "media remote" in the video since Sony does have a Media Remote app in the PlayStore, but that has been replaced by what looks like a TV remote only app. Installing the older Media Remote (OLD) app from the play store, In DEMO MODE I do get throw/catch options on my phone. I will have to get time to try and use this while connected to my TV. Its Mothers day, so that will have to wait.
Ivy did know there is a difference between wifi direct (file transfer) wifi display (streaming) widi (Intel streaming). I have widi working with my Intel tablet. But ive not got WiFi display working with TV/phone may be because the tv is not branded as miracast. Reading your post I read as there are 2 WiFi display standards, one of which is the miracast brand the other unbranded and from my experience you can't make connectivity between the two. TV ( WiFi display) will not connect to moto x (miracast) even both are certified. So miracast:miracast or WiFi display:WiFi display only
But not WiFi display:miracast
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I've got an LG Smart TV and Miracast works flawlessly with it any time I want to use it.
My Nexus 5 was very flaky and wouldn't connect properly but the Moto X is perfect.
Wutang200 which model number is your LG?
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I have the Turbo 64gb and I'm using Microsoft's Wireless Display Adaptor. I'm able to stream movies from other movie sites perfectly,but I get only audio and NO video with Netflix. Thanks!
That's not bad... I've been using my droid turbo with Chromecast seamlessly.
Movietube.co is my go to for GoT
Chromecast
I was unable to Use Chromecast with my Droid Turbo so, I bought Microsoft's Wireless Display Adaptor. I just got off the phone with Microsoft. There seems to be a problem with Netflix and the larger displays.
Hi, Netflix newer versions are with hdcp protection, download may/16 version from apkmirror.
Hello, I´ve acquired recently an used Xperia Z1, I know I can use MHL to output video to my TV but I want to do that wirelessly. So I want to know before I buy a miracast adapter if the phone supports simultaneous screen mirroring (over wifi direct or miracast) and mantain a wifi internet connection.
An example of what I want to do is to screen mirror the phone screen on my tv while I stream a movie over WiFi and have the phone near my couch so I can pause, skip, etc... and control the movie with the phone in my hands instead of having to walk over to the phone mhl connected to the TV.
I ask this because I´ve read that the xperia Z can´t do it and couldn´t find if the Z1 suffers the same issue.
No native english speaker so please forgive the bad grammar. Thanks in advance.
wolfnightmare said:
Hello, I´ve acquired recently an used Xperia Z1, I know I can use MHL to output video to my TV but I want to do that wirelessly. So I want to know before I buy a miracast adapter if the phone supports simultaneous screen mirroring (over wifi direct or miracast) and mantain a wifi internet connection.
An example of what I want to do is to screen mirror the phone screen on my tv while I stream a movie over WiFi and have the phone near my couch so I can pause, skip, etc... and control the movie with the phone in my hands instead of having to walk over to the phone mhl connected to the TV.
I ask this because I´ve read that the xperia Z can´t do it and couldn´t find if the Z1 suffers the same issue.
No native english speaker so please forgive the bad grammar. Thanks in advance.
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Yes, that's what called Miracast
I'm don't know about TV, but I test my Z1 to connect Lenovo projector, it's works really well with Miracast + streaming from Youtube :3
Just make sure, your TV support Z1 Miracast, since I need update Lenovo projector software, so I can connect it with my Z1.
Yenkazu said:
Yes, that's what called Miracast
I'm don't know about TV, but I test my Z1 to connect Lenovo projector, it's works really well with Miracast + streaming from Youtube :3
Just make sure, your TV support Z1 Miracast, since I need update Lenovo projector software, so I can connect it with my Z1.
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Thank you so much for your quick reply, I plan to use a EZcast adapter/dongle connected to my TV hdmi port, I would like to know if your Lenovo projector was connected to the internet too (maybe a Wi-Fi capable projector?) Or if you were using an adapter/dongle connected to the hdmi port in the projector. Thanks.
wolfnightmare said:
Thank you so much for your quick reply, I plan to use a EZcast adapter/dongle connected to my TV hdmi port, I would like to know if your Lenovo projector was connected to the internet too (maybe a Wi-Fi capable projector?) Or if you were using an adapter/dongle connected to the hdmi port in the projector. Thanks.
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My pleasure :3
Hmm, you can test that, since Google Cast use the same way :3
Eh, it didn't connect to wifi, because it's used by miracast, I'm afraid my projector didn't capable to do that ( I didn't test it ), but you can switch to connect to your router (if you need update the software or you can also use your router for streaming like phone> router> projector ).
I'm not using any adapter, since the projector used in built Miracast and wifi too.
You should test your adapter first, for compatible test :3
Hello,
I hope you have a solution and can help me.
I just can not get the screen of the X4 mirrored on another device.
Whether it's Chromecast, Fire TV Stick or just my Smart TV ...
With my old Nexus 5 it works, with my Umi Plus-E too.
Have already tried Miracast Apps, but it just does not work.
By default Moto X4 supporting chrome cast devices(I didn't tried) but not Miracast, Then i have unlocked the boot loader and change the value of build.prop file of wireless display(deleted the #). Now i am able to cast my screen in Miracast devices as well.
Ok, thanks, now I've been able to connect to Chromecast.
With the original smartphone, it is not possible to connect to the Fire TV?