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[Q] How to install OTA if rooted?

I've searched and searched and can't find this topic so here goes...
I have the DE and it is rooted. I'd like to install the OTA as I'm still running stock otherwise. Do I have to unroot to get it to install? For fun I tried loading it with CWM and that just locked it up.
Thoughts or threads I've missed?

im curious too :/ the only way i could update was unrooting and for that the only way i could do so, was restoring a backup from CWM, i couldnt falsha RUU or ZIP :/
would be great if some one help us to find out how to unroot (an easier way) or apply OTA even rooted (guess this is not possible :/)

eltoffer said:
im curious too :/ the only way i could update was unrooting and for that the only way i could do so, was restoring a backup from CWM, i couldnt falsha RUU or ZIP :/
would be great if some one help us to find out how to unroot (an easier way) or apply OTA even rooted (guess this is not possible :/)
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As far as I know, OTA should work fine if you have ONLY rooted and NOT installed any custom recovery. So I believe restoring stock recovery could make your phone receive the OTA. I could be wrong too.

shahul_555 said:
As far as I know, OTA should work fine if you have ONLY rooted and NOT installed any custom recovery. So I believe restoring stock recovery could make your phone receive the OTA. I could be wrong too.
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Hmmm then I'm a bit confused, I believe I have stock recovery installed, I haven't done anything other than backup and root. I just tried running the update from the prompt and it sends me to CWM. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what stock recovery is?

thepktrckt said:
Hmmm then I'm a bit confused, I believe I have stock recovery installed, I haven't done anything other than backup and root. I just tried running the update from the prompt and it sends me to CWM. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what stock recovery is?
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CWM is a custom recovery, hence why it's not working
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EddyOS said:
CWM is a custom recovery, hence why it's not working
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D'oh! My bad.
In attempt to get the stock recovery back I've tried the RUU that should be for the 64GB DE edition but it keeps throwing an error. Is Brightstar US WWE RUU 3.4.10 v4.1 1.29.1540.3 the wrong one?

thepktrckt said:
D'oh! My bad.
In attempt to get the stock recovery back I've tried the RUU that should be for the 64GB DE edition but it keeps throwing an error. Is Brightstar US WWE RUU 3.4.10 v4.1 1.29.1540.3 the wrong one?
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First things first is your phone the developer edition? Sorry to ask a silly question just want to make sure you are not trying to flash the wrong firmware to your phone.
You can find the stock recovery under the development thread and you can flash this with fastboot flash recovery recovery.img (in fastboot mode of course)

for a DE, you have to lock its bootloader and then using RUU to get it back to stock, or just fastboot flash the stock recoery image to override your custom recovery, both are working to update OTA according to my test.
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I posted this in another section a couple days ago on how I did the OTA with my DE.
Now you do have to push a stock recovery to get it working but then after you load the OTA you can go back and push TWRP or CWM. I then reflashed supersu but not sure if I needed to or not.
You don't need to lock the bootloader on the DE edition.
MG

moregadget said:
I posted this in another section a couple days ago on how I did the OTA with my DE.
Now you do have to push a stock recovery to get it working but then after you load the OTA you can go back and push TWRP or CWM. I then reflashed supersu but not sure if I needed to or not.
You don't need to lock the bootloader on the DE edition.
MG
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relocking bootloader is needed for the RUU way, for reflashing stock recovery way, it is not necessary.
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zhangke said:
relocking bootloader is needed for the RUU way, for reflashing stock recovery way, it is not necessary.
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I don't understand why you'd have to lock a bootloader for a device that came with it unlocked from the factory? Even the ruu from HTC for the DE requires you to lock the bootloader?
MG

moregadget said:
I don't understand why you'd have to lock a bootloader for a device that came with it unlocked from the factory? Even the ruu from HTC for the DE requires you to lock the bootloader?
MG
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Actually I don't understand either, but it is true, I failed several times to use RUU gettting back stock before re-locking my DE, I guess HTC developer does not apply any special code for the DE RUU program, you can have a try if you have a chance to do so.

Dang I already relocated and RUU'd it... Oh well next time.
Thanks though!!
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Stock recovery

Hi,
Does anyone know where I can find the stock recovery for the Sprint Moto X? I have TWRP right now and I want to prepare for the Kit Kat update.
Its my understanding that I will need to fastboot flash the stock recovery to take the update. I don't have much faith that a flashable 4.4 rom will happen anytime soon.
Any help would be appreciated.
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No one?
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Well, you could consider visiting -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ghost/list.php See if there is a copy of the ROM your phone is currently on... If so, download it and unzip it.
And since you have TWRP installed, I'm going to say you've unlocked your bootloader, and likely rooted.. That also might impact the install of 4.4. Did you remove any bloat, mess with system files, or freeze any apps with something like Titanium Backup? That too can impact the install of 4.4.
If you're interested take a look at -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2536735

KidJoe said:
Well, you could consider visiting -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ghost/list.php See if there is a copy of the ROM your phone is currently on... If so, download it and unzip it.
And since you have TWRP installed, I'm going to say you've unlocked your bootloader, and likely rooted.. That also might impact the install of 4.4. Did you remove any bloat, mess with system files, or freeze any apps with something like Titanium Backup? That too can impact the install of 4.4.
If you're interested take a look at -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2536735
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Is the link with the sbf files for consumer devices only? I have a dev edition on its way and thought I read if you flash the non dev sbf you will also install security stuff for non dev edition devices you don't want. Thanks in advance!

KidJoe said:
Well, you could consider visiting -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ghost/list.php See if there is a copy of the ROM your phone is currently on... If so, download it and unzip it.
And since you have TWRP installed, I'm going to say you've unlocked your bootloader, and likely rooted.. That also might impact the install of 4.4. Did you remove any bloat, mess with system files, or freeze any apps with something like Titanium Backup? That too can impact the install of 4.4.
If you're interested take a look at -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2536735
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I did uninstall some apps, but not much. My plan was to reinstall the factory recovery, then factory reset before accepting the ota.
This being my first Moto device, I'm not really familiar with all this .sbf stuff. Are you saying the stock recovery would be part of it?
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MichaelMcEntire said:
I did uninstall some apps, but not much. My plan was to reinstall the factory recovery, then factory reset before accepting the ota.
This being my first Moto device, I'm not really familiar with all this .sbf stuff. Are you saying the stock recovery would be part of it?
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The stick recovery can be found in the sbf zips
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Travisdroidx2 said:
Is the link with the sbf files for consumer devices only? I have a dev edition on its way and thought I read if you flash the non dev sbf you will also install security stuff for non dev edition devices you don't want. Thanks in advance!
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There was talk/speculation that when flashing the Dev edition with "non-dev" SDF/FXZ files you'd revert to a "consumer"/Locked device. I am not aware of that being confirmed as 100% true.
When I first got my Dev X, I rooted with RockMyMoto and ran for a week or so before unlocking the bootloader. At the time unlocking the boot loader voided the warranty and I wanted to make sure there were no issues before voiding the warranty. To prep for Kit Kat, I did flash it back using the only 4.2.2 SBF out there, that was for the "consumer" devices. It didn't hurt. I was still able to unlock my boot loader.
At this point, Moto does have the KK dev edition SBFs available for request on their web site if you don't trust using other SBF's. But they do appear to be the same as the "non-dev" sbf files.
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MichaelMcEntire said:
I did uninstall some apps, but not much. My plan was to reinstall the factory recovery, then factory reset before accepting the ota.
This being my first Moto device, I'm not really familiar with all this .sbf stuff. Are you saying the stock recovery would be part of it?
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Factory reset will not restore any apps you removed from the phone (i.e. if you deleted the APKs).
SBF and FXZ files are firmware files for Moto. RSDLite is the tool to fully flash an SBF or FXZ file.
The thread I linked earlier (said if you are interested... read...) has several options to return to stock, and explains options for using RSDLite to flash a full SBF/FXZ, as well as mfastboot to flash only parts of the ROM file, which will get you back to stock.
Most of the Moto updates perform checks for files, and specific versions of files before installing. If they don't match stock, or files it expects to be there are missing, the OTA wont install, or get the phone stuck in a boot loop.

Rogers Moto X- HOW CAN I ROOT or UPDATE?

Hey so im pretty new to flashing/rooting as well as new to the moto x (Got it today!). I've done some reading and tried the Pwnmymoto and Motoroot apk's and they both did not install, so im assuming my moto x has taken the OTA updates (i bought it second hand so i didnt know). I am just wondering if theres a way I can root it at this point?? I tried the Root script method using cydia impactor and Telnet kept failing. SO I then was looking at just flashing CWM via fastboot and then installing superuser zip from there as well as flashing a rom. Can anyone tell me if that's safe after the OTA or if theres another way to root? Any help will be mich appreciated as I am really overwhelmed!

I was in the same boat you were but apparently the Rogers update is "coming soon". However if you're impatient like me follow these steps:
1. Unlock your boot loader from Motorola
2. Download rsdlite
3. Download mfastboot
4. Download the sbf for T-Mobile 4.4 retail
5. Download the sbf for the Brasil 4.4 retail
6. Download cwmrecovery
7. Download original Moto boot image
Seems like a lot but here's what you need to do after you have all that stuff assuming you have a windows PC.
1. After the boot loader is unlocked install the custom recovery (I use cwm) via fastboot
fastboot flash recovery cwm.file.name
2. Search the forums for how to flash moto software using rsdlite (don't have the links since I'm on my phone) and flash the T-Mobile files AFTER modifying the XML file like in the instructions.
3. Search my posts and find how to flash the Rogers radio using the Brasil radio files (extract them from the zip)
4. After unlocking the bootloader it'll leave you with a nasty boot image, flash the boot image from the original moto (again search the forums) and it'll go away.
Then you'll have a Moto X on Rogers that has Kit Kat and LTE band 7 working and gets all its updates straight from Motorola! Hope that helps!
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After unlocking your bootloader then you can flash cwm and install supersu via the install zip feature
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No no no.
Look for a thread in General subforum. Rogers root. Very simple. Very easy.
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I did just that and it worked thanks a lot. Anyone reccomend any decent KitKat Roms that retain moto x features?
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There are no roms nor are there any reasons for them. Root install xposed, install gravity box. Done. This is not a flashaholics phone.

I'd never flash a custom rom on this phone....no reason to with xposed, as said above.
When we stop getting updates, then maybe. Maybe. My n7 is still on 4.2.2. Yes....I am cured of my flashaholism.
Flashaholics should not get the Moto x for sure. Lol
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agree with all the above.
but perhaps OP could use more info on Xposed and Gravity Box?

[Q] Moto X DE Is 4.4.2 worth it?

Moto X DE rooted. VZW native tether hack. Replaced the "warning unlocked bootloader" message. The rest is stock. Is the 4.4.2 update worth it? I don't see anything that appears to be much different from 4.4

I have a Dev X and pretty much in the same boat as you.... Unlocked, Rooted, changed logo.bin, but I'm using Wifi Tether for root app rather than the entitlement apk hack.
I took the OTA when it hit my phone. I can't say that I notice anything really different after the upgrade. No negative impacts at least.
It was easy to take because I was basically stock... just flash stock recovery back on, and take the OTA. Since it sounds like you did the entitlement apk replacement, you'd need to undo that.
I didn't lose root, and write protection stayed disabled (due to unlocked bootloader). So I just had to reflash my custom logo.bin, and I haven't put custom recovery back on, I don't need to right now. Only issue would be, if I do find a bug that wasn't there in 4.4, I can't downgrade now due to the bootloader update.

KidJoe said:
I have a Dev X and pretty much in the same boat as you.... Unlocked, Rooted, changed logo.bin, but I'm using Wifi Tether for root app rather than the entitlement apk hack.
I took the OTA when it hit my phone. I can't say that I notice anything really different after the upgrade. No negative impacts at least.
It was easy to take because I was basically stock... just flash stock recovery back on, and take the OTA. Since it sounds like you did the entitlement apk replacement, you'd need to undo that.
I didn't lose root, and write protection stayed disabled (due to unlocked bootloader). So I just had to reflash my custom logo.bin, and I haven't put custom recovery back on, I don't need to right now. Only issue would be, if I do find a bug that wasn't there in 4.4, I can downgrade now due to the bootloader update.
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You don't have root unless you put the custom recovery back on there.
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KidJoe said:
Only issue would be, if I do find a bug that wasn't there in 4.4, I can downgrade now due to the bootloader update.
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Not to nag, but probably important to correct... you CAN'T downgrade now.
Updated last night. I did it cause I wanted to be on latest and greatest, plus I think the camera does take better low-light pictures now.

Schaweet said:
You don't have root unless you put the custom recovery back on there.
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No, you'll keep root after taking the update. You do not need to reinstall TWRP to have root. Root is root, a recovery is a recovery. If you lost root, you'd need to install a recovery that allows you to install root, but you don't lose root from taking the OTA.

cw18306 said:
Moto X DE rooted. VZW native tether hack. Replaced the "warning unlocked bootloader" message. The rest is stock. Is the 4.4.2 update worth it? I don't see anything that appears to be much different from 4.4
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Not much different, you can always update everything but motoboot and gpt so you can still downgrade if you don't like...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/xt1060-164-55-2-unofficial-fxz-unlocked-t2659682
FWIW, The only things I notice are that USB OTG works in 4.4.2 and static in bluetooth headphones when using wifi is gone.

Schaweet said:
You don't have root unless you put the custom recovery back on there.
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I beg to differ. Root Explore, Greenify, Wifi Tether for Root... all work, as do going into system and renaming files, and downloading/installing the hosts file in AdAway from BigTinCan.com (which survive power off/on, so helps to tell me write protection is still disabled).
On an unlocked bootloader, once you have rooted, you can use whatever recovery you like.
Now, for LOCKED bootloader on the X which are rooted via RockMyMoto or SlapMyMoto without using MotoWPNoMo, you might need to keep that "recovery trick" in place so you can boot with write protect disabled. In that case you would loose the ability to boot with write protect disabled (which makes root useless) when you put stock recovery back on, but that is different and doesn't "unroot" you.
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Mike7143 said:
Not to nag, but probably important to correct... you CAN'T downgrade now.
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You are right. that is a Typo that I need to fix!!!

cw18306 said:
Moto X DE rooted. VZW native tether hack. Replaced the "warning unlocked bootloader" message. The rest is stock. Is the 4.4.2 update worth it? I don't see anything that appears to be much different from 4.4
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It took me about an hour to do the update because I am a novice and had to do a bunch of stuff first but I did it and my phone is back to its current state...except now I am using the xposed wifi tether instead of the hack (And the xposed one is better). So it was worth it just to have the latest and get rid of that wifi mod that i never liked to begin with. Apparently the upate makes battery life better but my battery life was already awesome considering I came from Gnex. So I guess the question is why not update? If you know what you are doing it shouldnt take 5-10 minutes.

from what people are saying it seems 4.4.2 makes a huge difference for battery life, i don't have it yet on my xt1058 so i can't say for sure...

Yeah I really only root for the tether hack and tibackup. Both of which I've used less and less since I got this phone. I've never had any issues with the phone and battery life is awesome so I'll probably just wait for some more feedback on the update before I go through the hassle of doing it.

How do you get rid of the unlocked bootloader message? Just flashing logo.bin?

jawest12 said:
How do you get right of the unlocked bootloader message? Just flashing logo.bin?
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Yes replacing logo.bin. the logo.bin's I made for 4.4 work on 4.4.2 too.
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If you are rooted and locked on 4.4 using SlapMyMoto and MotoWPNoMo, can you downgrade to 4.2.2 and use PwnMyMoto then RockMyMoto then SlapMyMoto 0.5c to get the "recovery trick" back? Or is the ability to do that gone once you have used MotoWPNoMo?
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I am not sure since I have a Dev Edition with an unlocked bootloader, so I never used them... only read about them.

KidJoe said:
Yes replacing logo.bin. the logo.bin's I made for 4.4 work on 4.4.2 too.
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I am not sure since I have a Dev Edition with an unlocked bootloader, so I never used them... only read about them.
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Thank you for the response. Where can I download your logo.bin to flash?

tcrews said:
No, you'll keep root after taking the update. You do not need to reinstall TWRP to have root. Root is root, a recovery is a recovery. If you lost root, you'd need to install a recovery that allows you to install root, but you don't lose root from taking the OTA.
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For a n00b,,,,,English please?!

jawest12 said:
Thank you for the response. Where can I download your logo.bin to flash?
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See the "edit" section of Post #150 in this thread -> Moto X Boot Logos The post also has info how they were made and a link to a zip that contains a little more than 25 LOGO.BIN files, and matching BMP's so you can see what they look like first (or use to flash clogo if you have never unlocked your bootloader). they do include the 0-3% battery indication too.
I'm using Logo-prettydev2.png.bin included in the zip file.

PennyKnight said:
For a n00b,,,,,English please?!
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Moto X Developer Edition only....as this thread title states a DE model.
The OTA doesn't remove ROOT. You need the stock recovery to install the OTA so you have to flash the stock recovery.img back to the phone to install the OTA. Once the OTA is done.....you do NOT need to install TWRP or any other recovery to have root. You never lost root.
All of this is assuming you had previously installed TWRP to root a Moto X Developer Edition (DE) and want the OTA to 4.4.2.

tcrews said:
Moto X Developer Edition only....as this thread title states a DE model.
The OTA doesn't remove ROOT. You need the stock recovery to install the OTA so you have to flash the stock recovery.img back to the phone to install the OTA. Once the OTA is done.....you do NOT need to install TWRP or any other recovery to have root. You never lost root.
All of this is assuming you had previously installed TWRP to root a Moto X Developer Edition (DE) and want the OTA to 4.4.2.
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Also for noobs, how do I flash the stock recovery?

Also, does flashing stock recovery erase any data? (Like messages/pictures/etc..? If not, what actions actually erase this data... I feel like I never know)
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zackiv31 said:
Also, does flashing stock recovery erase any data? (Like messages/pictures/etc..? If not, what actions actually erase this data... I feel like I never know)
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No. Flashing Recovery does NOT erase data. Using RSDLite to flash an entire SBF/XML file (without editing it) will erase data.. or giving the following command via PC with your phone in fastboot mode will erase data... mfastboot erase data

KidJoe said:
I have a Dev X and pretty much in the same boat as you.... Unlocked, Rooted, changed logo.bin, but I'm using Wifi Tether for root app rather than the entitlement apk hack.
It was easy to take because I was basically stock... just flash stock recovery back on, and take the OTA. Since it sounds like you did the entitlement apk replacement, you'd need to undo that.
How do I undo the entitlement apk. I tried to reverse it but messed it up.
Not good at that stuff.
Thanks
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Best way to root latest 5.1 pure edition OTA?

What are people doing to root the newest official 5.1 pure OTA? I saw a couple of threads about root floating around, but cf autoroot seems to have failed for a few people. What are you guys using to root?
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Completing this question by adding one more bit that is there any root method which supports easy unrooting like Kitkat days where we don't have to go through hassles and risks of flashing whole stock ROM again?

I rooted 5.1 by booting twrp and flashing latest supersu. I haven't tried yet to full unroot but it should work.

Nicolae-Daniel said:
I rooted 5.1 by booting twrp and flashing latest supersu. I haven't tried yet to full unroot but it should work.
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How did you boot twrp??,,, . Using windroid?
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rohithksaj said:
How did you boot twrp??,,, . Using windroid?
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Via fastboot. I just unrooted my device,although bootloader says "Software status : Modified" so i don't think it's safe to OTA update.

Be careful with this method though. Cause as of now there is no full image of 5.1. Therefore no stock recovery if you want to flash everything back like stock , unless you go back to 5.0 and then flash ota, hence the potential risk.

kristof95 said:
Be careful with this method though. Cause as of now there is no full image of 5.1. Therefore no stock recovery if you want to flash everything back like stock , unless you go back to 5.0 and then flash ota, hence the potential risk.
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Yep. Kinda stuck as I didn't backup before rooting

Doesn't the factory reset convert the phone back into the stock? Like what used to happen in previous Android versions?

Jack Sparrow xda said:
Doesn't the factory reset convert the phone back into the stock? Like what used to happen in previous Android versions?
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No, that's never been a thing. It only wipes /data and doesn't touch /system at all.
For that to work, they'd have to take up valuable phone space with system images.
As for root, getting it is virtually unchanged since 4.4.4. Use Cf-Auto-Root or let twrp do it.

Anybody tried re locking the boot loader.???
I tried every method but failed....
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rohithksaj said:
Anybody tried re locking the boot loader.???
I tried every method but failed....
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Can't be done.

rohithksaj said:
Anybody tried re locking the boot loader.???
I tried every method but failed....
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It's pointless to do. There is no valid reason to relock it.
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the topic gone wrong, what is the best way to root latest ota? does cf-auto-root work?
since there is full image of latest 5.1 ota for pure edition, there are low risks of rooting.
any suggestion?

pro.gangster said:
the topic gone wrong, what is the best way to root latest ota? does cf-auto-root work?
since there is full image of latest 5.1 ota for pure edition, there are low risks of rooting.
any suggestion?
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Just flash TWRP and root that way... If you don't want to overwrite the default recovery, boot TWRP. No real risks, it hasn't changed from 5.0.
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