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iPhone Power User to Android Noob: Few Questions...

Sorry I'm a little noobish when it comes to Androids (trying to come over from an iPhone).
I understand rooting. But... Can you tell me advantages/disadvantages of all these ROMS? Do some have the latest radio firwmare and some don't? I thought I read I could also modify these ROMs as well. I would appreciate some insight. Thanks

legaleye2005 said:
Sorry I'm a little noobish when it comes to Androids (trying to come over from an iPhone).
I understand rooting. But... Can you tell me advantages/disadvantages of all these ROMS? Do some have the latest radio firwmare and some don't? I thought I read I could also modify these ROMs as well. I would appreciate some insight. Thanks
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You can do anything. If you read the forums you will learn a lot more than any 1 person here could ever teach you in one post. Happy reading.
P.s. posts like this are frowned upon around where when you could have searched.

ROMs are just modified versions of the standard firmware the developers that make them bundle certain apps with them and make some slight changes. IIRC they are all rooted.
I think the radio firmware can be updated seperatly as i downloaded the HTC radio directly from the HTC website.

There is a thread here that tries to chart the differences between builds (the name "rom" is kind of a misnomer).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517506
Also, for community ("hacked"/"rooted") builds, they generally don't include the radio. You would update the radio and bootloader separately. The official builds tend to include radio and or bootloader updates.

http://allshadow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5692
This should help you out with any information on Firmwares, its alot better then a stupid chart.

Just do yourself a favor.. Do not Flash before you read the entire thread. Because you may find your new G1 is a brick.
If you want something or want to upgrade SPL or Recovery or Rom Make sure you competely read the thread you may find that other users that have previously flashed that particular item will give feedback.

Mast3rmatt said:
http://allshadow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5692
This should help you out with any information on Firmwares, its alot better then a stupid chart.
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that link also links to the same "stupid" chart. btw that chart is great for deciding which build suits your needs the best

I was sorta kindling.....
My thread has all the information and MORE. The chart is helpful but you can't get any helpful links with it. My thread has information/my thoughts/ and updates on how to find the newest firmware.

*slaps himself in the back of the head

How to root?

Telus LG optimus Black
Android version 2.2.2
LG-P970G-V10A
Tried using Superoneclick computer freezes on Very first step 3.

did you know, that the best netuser's friend is........research ? don't you wonder if one of previous of hundreds users asked for this before you ?

From what i searched came up with nothing pertaining to this phone.
Ive done phones before this but no LG product.

oh com'on, that means you didn't search well in this p970 forum. at least google should do it, but whatever, take a look at my thread or nooby's one in general section

Found a lot of dead links, phone seems hard for a lot of others. I got it though using LG Esteem ROOT.
Could not find a lot of other files to try. Gingerbreak which alot used just found bad links or ones that wanted to install other programs.

nice.
if you found dead links, you could report them to their respective authors. just know that you can find every needed things in the kit I provide. also, take a look at my shares (link in signature)

Is your post the one i saw it said to use "Gingerbreak"? cause i could not find that link either. Unless it was under a different name?

Thread moved
It seems you have a lot of research to do, by reading through the various stickies in General and Development, and posting questions in Q&A.

Hi, you can find more information here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487105
I recomend you BlackJack to root your device.

EAP-SIM

Hi,
I was wondering if some one could help me out by explaining to me why my P990 doesn't supports the EAP-SIM method??
Is it a ROM issue? a Kernel issue? = Driver issue?; or is it really a hardware issue? and i should consider changing my phone...
I have been looking around and it would seem to me that it is just a software, hence it can be added to different phones.
For example, in France this method is given by the rom provider (FREE) for SG3; people have managed to get the needed files and have patched the SG2 to make it work too with EAP-SIM...
So, would it be possible to make it for the P990 knowing that a ROM exist for the LG optimus L9 here
I mean, can we extract the configuration that is used in this kernel-ROM and apply it on another one?
Thanks for your help and or explanations

wrong forum
u're asking the same question in several dev threads - wrong again

60nine said:
wrong forum
u're asking the same question in several dev threads - wrong again
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Ups... sorry about that.
Maybe if I restate my question it gets more linked to this forum
Can I use the ROM of LG Optimus L9 with my LG Optimus 2x?
Or how can I extract the EAP-SIM information of one and use it in the other one? (is this possible?)
Sorry again about my multiple posting.

emilic said:
Ups... sorry about that.
Maybe if I restate my question it gets more linked to this forum
Can I use the ROM of LG Optimus L9 with my LG Optimus 2x?
Or how can I extract the EAP-SIM information of one and use it in the other one? (is this possible?)
Sorry again about my multiple posting.
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If this is a software issue, you should try to request it at CyanogenMod. There's more chance they would implement it than with LG itself. But you would have to root your phone, and change to the CyanogenMod ROM, which is pretty good.

Update Andro-id rc3- With Kernel

Here's the latest Kernel for Andro-id-RC3 by Abenagial. This is an update package for this ROM, so you should be on this ROM to flash it.
It includes
-kernel 35.14
- gpu update
- gui update..
HERE IS THE LINK
NOTE:- Please make a Nandroid backup before flashing this, in case anything goes wrong. Also I am not responsible for anything happens to your device. Flash on your own risk.
credit goes to @ABenagial who posted this on Facebook. Abenagial

thanks for the update. is this by Tjstyle?

leoaeries said:
thanks for the update. is this by Tjstyle?
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By Aben..
visit Techlions.in for latest tech news..

when it is already posted in respective thread, why you created another thread ?????? don't waste forum space...........
refer this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39101610&postcount=176

vivekb said:
when it is already posted in respective thread, why you created another thread ?????? don't waste forum space...........
refer this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39101610&postcount=176
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Because I haven't seen it. This is a new kernel source, which require better publishing so our devs can work through it. I haven't copied it from your post. I got it on our facebook page for mi-410. Thank you.
visit Techlions.in for latest tech news..

gautam.is.sharma said:
Because I haven't seen it. This is a new kernel source, which require better publishing so our devs can work through it. I haven't copied it from your post. I got it on our facebook page for mi-410. Thank you.
visit Techlions.in for latest tech news..
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I am not saying that you copied from my post... even I took it from facebook page and as this kernel is only for RC 3 I posted in that thread... if check thread carefully you will find on last between page only....no need to post separately .... anyway my point is in regards to forum space which is wasting because of repeated post and thread....and its two month old ... no point in posting separate after such a long time ...

Besides the pushing of that old topic, I've tried a number of the newer/recent firmwares and they all have one or the other bug. Something is not working, crashes, or screws up. Nasty stuff sometimes. I am back to the 2.3 series, and perhaps I may refresh my now very old MacLite with a Sharp version. Depends a bit on my time, but I think it's still the better firmware for our phone. That is, one where everything works!

mmaacc said:
Besides the pushing of that old topic, I've tried a number of the newer/recent firmwares and they all have one or the other bug. Something is not working, crashes, or screws up. Nasty stuff sometimes. I am back to the 2.3 series, and perhaps I may refresh my now very old MacLite with a Sharp version. Depends a bit on my time, but I think it's still the better firmware for our phone. That is, one where everything works!
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Yeah it's true that we are still struggling to get a good, nicely working ICS+ ROM. But without trying new ones, it's impossible to fully utilize our device capabilities.
Hope for the best bro.
And yeah Sharp is a great ROM.
visit Techlions.in for latest tech news..

thanks for this post gautam .... i didn't knew there is .14 version kernel available for our device ... and whatever i try my permanent rom is a gingerbread , so thank you for posting ....
please give some details about functionality .... is everything working like wifi, gsm data , tethering etc.

Yes everything is working except some people having issues with front camera force closing...

[Q]Walkaround flashing and ulocking bootloader for Root>Unroot

Guys i need to know if its possible to root the phone and unroot / take it back to warranty condition WITHOUT reflashing and unlocking bootloader.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCChDxc2_HE heres what i've found about unroot... but i am not sure in this method will it completely remove root binary and take phone back to warrantyN mode ?

Is it that hard question ?

tuncay_93 said:
Is it that hard question ?
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No, but we get sick and tired of people asking the same questions over and over again because they are too lazy to actually put the effort in to searching and reading properly
Also, don't 'bump' your own thread within 24 hours - read the rules if you're not sure why.

SimonTS said:
No, but we get sick and tired of people asking the same questions over and over again because they are too lazy to actually put the effort in to searching and reading properly
Also, don't 'bump' your own thread within 24 hours - read the rules if you're not sure why.
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Ok, Boss then lets don't ask questions in this section and rename it to MrKnowItAll section ok?
I just couldt find how to root and unroot without unlocking and flashing and made a thread in questions section to ask if you do not mind...

tuncay_93 said:
MrKnowItAll
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That's the whole idea of a Q&A.. With every new (original) question the knowledge database grows. This allows other people to just search through the threads to find their answer. It's actually an easier way to find answers then creating a new thread, since you don't have to wait for reactions and usually the follow up questions are already elaborately discussed..
On topic: I believe some superusers have an option to unroot? And otherwise just reflashing stock is just as easy.
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balloon27 said:
That's the whole idea of a Q&A.. With every new (original) question the knowledge database grows. This allows other people to just search through the threads to find their answer. It's actually an easier way to find answers then creating a new thread, since you don't have to wait for reactions and usually the follow up questions are already elaborately discussed..
On topic: I believe some superusers have an option to unroot? And otherwise just reflashing stock is just as easy.
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Alright then i renamed the thread. Because my question is about walkaround reflashing and unlocking bootloader.
Is it possible simply to root and unroot without reflashing and unlocking ?

When you root phone your root file is on system partition and you need to format it If you want to remove root.Hard reset don't format partition so that won't work.Update software should work but I am not sure.SuperS have ability to remove itself so if you root your phone with it you can done it fastest way.Also don't be smartass and mock people who are telling you to search for answer before posting topic and asking for help.It I is not polite.After all you are asking for help from us not the way around.
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dimi89 said:
When you root phone your root file is on system partition and you need to format it If you want to remove root.Hard reset don't format partition so that won't work.Update software should work but I am not sure.SuperS have ability to remove itself so if you root your phone with it you can done it fastest way.Also don't be smartass and mock people who are telling you to search for answer before posting topic and asking for help.It I is not polite.After all you are asking for help from us not the way around.
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on topic: So i am on latest 4.1.2 if i force the support tool (from LG) will it reflash the phone with stock frimware after root ?
As i remember i read somewhere that actually it is possible to use some kind of "upgrade recovery" option with this tool which reflash phone.
off topic: Im not playing it smartass i've searched and couldn't find what i need to know. then i posted this thread.
So maybe someone should check if a thread exist actually without beign too lazy. before saying that he's sick of people.
And also renamed my thread to be more suitable to people who will be searching.

tuncay_93 said:
off topic: Im not playing it smartass i've searched and couldn't find what i need to know. then i posted this thread.
So maybe someone should check if a thread exist actually without beign too lazy. before saying that he's sick of people.
And also renamed my thread to be more suitable to people who will be searching.
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You did NOT search!! Put the word "unroot" into Q&A forum search box and you get 60 hits, at least 5 of which on the first page give the answer.

SimonTS said:
You did NOT search!! Put the word "unroot" into Q&A forum search box and you get 60 hits, at least 5 of which on the first page give the answer.
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simon its too late mate... i renamed my thread alredy and i think you did not read that its about walkaound flashing and unlocking.

@tuncay93 in LG update tool should be option "force update" or something like that.BTW I think easiest method is just to flesh.dz file since it will format system partition for sure and you need only drivers that you must install even if you want to update regularly your software.Download SuperSu it should replace your current root app and then from SuperSu choose "remove SuperSu" .That is all I can think off.
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tuncay_93 said:
simon its too late mate... i renamed my thread alredy and i think you did not read that its about walkaound flashing and unlocking.
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What is "[Q]Walkaround flashing and ulocking bootloader for Root>Unroot" supposed to mean? I walk around with my phone while I do it?
Changing the title of the thread doesn't change your laziness or your attitude.

SimonTS said:
What is "[Q]Walkaround flashing and ulocking bootloader for Root>Unroot" supposed to mean? I walk around with my phone while I do it?
Changing the title of the thread doesn't change your laziness or your attitude.
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I don't want to be mean but just STFU you can't tell me where i can post and when i can not.
And also you can't tell me what i can post and what i can not. ok ? now go QQ.

tuncay_93 said:
I don't want to be mean but just STFU you can't tell me where i can post and when i can not.
And also you can't tell me what i can post and what i can not. ok ? now go QQ.
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Really? Simon is a long time member and he know what he's talking about. He might sound a bit mean sometimes but he's right!
I for myself created like one thread asking a question and the other things I sorted out myself with brief searching, reading and trying.
This question here has been answered already.
You're asking how to unroot without flashing back the stock ROM or unlocking bootloader.
It has been answered in this thread as well and a search (not just on XDA but on Google as well) would've get you to the same answers.
Simon can't tell you where to post and where not but he does as he is trying to get newer or ignorant XDA members to follow the rules.
And one of those rules is to search.
Not just a five minute look but a brief search even in related threads etc.
You won't learn anything by just asking and asking again but by trying and figuring out yourself.
So please do us a favor and stop posting unnecessary questions.
@laufersteppenwolf
I think this has gone way too far.
I know you're in hospital as far as I remember but maybe you can clean this thread if you get time to do so.
Thanks
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Omario-242 said:
Really? Simon is a long time member and he know what he's talking about. He might sound a bit mean sometimes but he's right!
I for myself created like one thread asking a question and the other things I sorted out myself with brief searching, reading and trying.
This question here has been answered already.
You're asking how to unroot without flashing back the stock ROM or unlocking bootloader.
It has been answered in this thread as well and a search (not just on XDA but on Google as well) would've get you to the same answers.
Simon can't tell you where to post and where not but he does as he is trying to get newer or ignorant XDA members to follow the rules.
And one of those rules is to search.
Not just a five minute look but a brief search even in related threads etc.
You won't learn anything by just asking and asking again but by trying and figuring out yourself.
So please do us a favor and stop posting unnecessary questions.
@laufersteppenwolf
I think this has gone way too far.
I know you're in hospital as far as I remember but maybe you can clean this thread if you get time to do so.
Thanks
Sent from my LG-P880 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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1.By the first few words you said i suspect that you define the pople by their registration date at XDA.
2. I didn't found answer to my question thats why i made thread. [Ans. It is actually possible SuperSu will remove root [not sure what kind of remove but still....[ Flashing with support tool is the way but is still flashing]
3. I am not ignorant and new at XDA. I am new to 4x HD section. Also without reading and asking you can't learn anything. Thats the point of the forum.
4. And i think it was necessary question. Since i've searched and couldn't find what i needed to know.
Finding related threads about "How to root", "How to unroot" all say just unlock reflash and relock. Why ? I've just find out today that i can simply run support tool and all will be fine. (Also mine is 446-92 FW I'm not sure if relockable yet.)
Also that standing behind someone just because he says few words that he has read at "Rules" In wrong place....
And just because its old member it's not cool mate im sorry but thats what i think.
Now if moderators think this is unnecesery thread can remove it.

dimi89 said:
@tuncay93 in LG update tool should be option "force update" or something like that.BTW I think easiest method is just to flesh.dz file since it will format system partition for sure and you need only drivers that you must install even if you want to update regularly your software.Download SuperSu it should replace your current root app and then from SuperSu choose "remove SuperSu" .That is all I can think off.
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Ye thats what i find out today theres walkaround for flashing and unlocking bootloader.
In lg support tool click options then upgrade recovery and you are good to go for warranty or whatever you need it for.

tuncay_93 said:
1.By the first few words you said i suspect that you define the pople by their registration date at XDA.
2. I didn't found answer to my question thats why i made thread. [Ans. It is actually possible SuperSu will remove root [not sure what kind of remove but still....[ Flashing with support tool is the way but is still flashing]
3. I am not ignorant and new at XDA. I am new to 4x HD section. Also without reading and asking you can't learn anything. Thats the point of the forum.
4. And i think it was necessary question. Since i've searched and couldn't find what i needed to know.
Finding related threads about "How to root", "How to unroot" all say just unlock reflash and relock. Why ? I've just find out today that i can simply run support tool and all will be fine. (Also mine is 446-92 FW I'm not sure if relockable yet.)
Also that standing behind someone just because he says few words that he has read at "Rules" In wrong place....
And just because its old member it's not cool mate im sorry but thats what i think.
Now if moderators think this is unnecesery thread can remove it.
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Let's get behind this rules etc thing but if you'd read more about root function and flashing a stock firmware you would've know that root is installed in system and that a simple reflash unroots your system.
That's what I mean with reading and understanding the way your modified android device works.
I don't know if it's just me but I did know nearly everything about root before even bothering to root my device just in case if something goes wrong I exactly know what to do.
The answers are out there. Most questions can be solved by searching but many users don't do it or they don't have enough knowledge of Android to understand the given output of their searches.
And no I don't define people by their registration date but by the way they post on XDA.
And I'm not supporting Simon because he has said a few words about rules. I'm supporting him because he's been a long time member and follows the rules.
And sorry but if somebody is criticizing your thread in a forum like XDA and you're responding with "STFU" shows me that you're ignorant and lacking respect.
The fact that Simon is doing this is to keep people from posting 10 threads about the same question (like they tend to do) but search and know what they are doing.
The problem with the community is that most new users just follow tutorials but don't know what to do if something goes wrong (and believe me there always will be something that goes wrong) and then they create threads like "help I bricked my 4X HD".
Like I said if you'd know what rooting actually does inside your device you'd know what to do with information you get when you search for unroot.
Let's assume you are a new user and you now install SuperSU and somehow it messes something up.
What will you do? Do you know enough to mess with an android device? I really don't want you to take it personal but that's the way you should think about it.
And I have one question: Why do you want to unroot your device without reflashing stock firmware and think that unlocking boot loader would be necessary to unroot?
(and just one hint: it's not "walkaround" but workaround what you mean I guess)
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Omario-242 said:
Let's get behind this rules etc thing but if you'd read more about root function and flashing a stock firmware you would've know that root is installed in system and that a simple reflash unroots your system.
That's what I mean with reading and understanding the way your modified android device works.
I don't know if it's just me but I did know nearly everything about root before even bothering to root my device just in case if something goes wrong I exactly know what to do.
The answers are out there. Most questions can be solved by searching but many users don't do it or they don't have enough knowledge of Android to understand the given output of their searches.
And no I don't define people by their registration date but by the way they post on XDA.
And I'm not supporting Simon because he has said a few words about rules. I'm supporting him because he's been a long time member and follows the rules.
And sorry but if somebody is criticizing your thread in a forum like XDA and you're responding with "STFU" shows me that you're ignorant and lacking respect.
The fact that Simon is doing this is to keep people from posting 10 threads about the same question (like they tend to do) but search and know what they are doing.
The problem with the community is that most new users just follow tutorials but don't know what to do if something goes wrong (and believe me there always will be something that goes wrong) and then they create threads like "help I bricked my 4X HD".
Like I said if you'd know what rooting actually does inside your device you'd know what to do with information you get when you search for unroot.
Let's assume you are a new user and you now install SuperSU and somehow it messes something up.
What will you do? Do you know enough to mess with an android device? I really don't want you to take it personal but that's the way you should think about it.
And I have one question: Why do you want to unroot your device without reflashing stock firmware and think that unlocking boot loader would be necessary to unroot?
(and just one hint: it's not "walkaround" but workaround what you mean I guess)
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Okey I know what Root is. I have been rooting and unlocking all my phones i've used to switch roms. (I know that reflashing is the solution)
But the problem is as i said my 4x HD isn't EUR-XXX it's 446-92 (Asian one i suspect)
So unlocking is possible but couldn't really find info about relocking.
And i was in need of workaround as you said (My english is not good) Because my power button its not responsive and the phone still has warranty and that button its going to brick it keeps going more and more unresponsive.
So i didn't wanted to unlock and reflash because i may void my warranty in that case i still need it.

tuncay_93 said:
Okey I know what Root is. I have been rooting and unlocking all my phones i've used to switch roms. (I know that reflashing is the solution)
But the problem is as i said my 4x HD isn't EUR-XXX it's 446-92 (Asian one i suspect)
So unlocking is possible but couldn't really find info about relocking.
And i was in need of workaround as you said (My english is not good) Because my power button its not responsive and the phone still has warranty and that button its going to brick it keeps going more and more unresponsive.
So i didn't wanted to unlock and reflash because i may void my warranty in that case i still need it.
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You don't need to unlock anything in order to reflash the stock firmware with LG Support Tool.
That's what I was talking about. You don't know this because you didn't read enough about this device.
And about your warranty: if you'd search in that topic you may acknowledge that rooting doesn't void your warranty in most places as long as the failure (in your case the power button) isn't related to the slight software modification.
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Omario-242 said:
You don't need to unlock anything in order to reflash the stock firmware with LG Support Tool.
That's what I was talking about. You don't know this because you didn't read enough about this device.
And about your warranty: if you'd search in that topic you may acknowledge that rooting doesn't void your warranty in most places as long as the failure (in your case the power button) isn't related to the slight software modification.
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Ye but i know here in my country all warranty providers are just looking for something that may void it and just root will void it i am sure.
But never thought support tool works after rooting or modification on software. i did not even think about searching for that you are right now.