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Root without having to install custom recovery?

so the title says it all. is there anyway I can root my HTC One without installing a custom recovery first? I want to be able to do OTA updates and with a custom recovery it is not possible. if there is a way to root without installing a custom recovery, can you please provide me a step by step tutorial on how to? thanks in advance.

samanbabah said:
so the title says it all. is there anyway I can root my HTC One without installing a custom recovery first? I want to be able to do OTA updates and with a custom recovery it is not possible. if there is a way to root without installing a custom recovery, can you please provide me a step by step tutorial on how to? thanks in advance.
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Can you get OTA updates if you are rooted? I thought you had to be stock

deeevan said:
Can you get OTA updates if you are rooted? I thought you had to be stock
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I do get OTA updates, and it downloads just fine, but as soon as I try to install it, it reboots into the custom recovery and nothing happens. when I had Sense 5 ROM I would simply install the stock recovery.img and installed the OTA update, but right now I'm on stock Android 4.3 google edition and I can't find a stock google edition 4.3 recovery.img

samanbabah said:
I do get OTA updates, and it downloads just fine, but as soon as I try to install it, it reboots into the custom recovery and nothing happens. when I had Sense 5 ROM I would simply install the stock recovery.img and installed the OTA update, but right now I'm on stock Android 4.3 google edition and I can't find a stock google edition 4.3 recovery.img
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Go to the GPe convention thread. Its in the development section. Download the ruu. Pull the recovery.img, and flash it.
Or ignore the ota, its a minor update anyway. No noticeable changes.
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[Q] Dev Edition - Root but keep OTA?

I have sucessfully converted my AT&T HTC One to the Developers Edition. If install TWRP and root the device, then re-install the stock recovery, can I maintain the ability to receive OTA Updates?
Also can someone confirm that the 4.06.1540 recovery is the latest for 4.4.2 sense 6? (Found Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2545227)
Or if there is a better way to accomplish root etc.
Thank you in advance.

sednafx said:
I have sucessfully converted my AT&T HTC One to the Developers Edition. If install TWRP and root the device, then re-install the stock recovery, can I maintain the ability to receive OTA Updates?
Also can someone confirm that the 4.06.1540 recovery is the latest for 4.4.2 sense 6? (Found Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2545227)
Or if there is a better way to accomplish root etc.
Thank you in advance.
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That is a good recovery to have in place *before* you start checking for the latest 5.x.x.x OTA. Technically it's not the "latest" (the latest one would be the one you will end up with *after* the OTA) but it's the right one for your situation.
Overall the short answer to your question is yes, you can get OTA's with this plan.
If you remove anything from /system you might not.
If you do more stuff (like downgrading HBOOT, installing a custom kernel, whatever) you might not.
But for most people in your situation, you'll get OTA's.
Generally.
Enjoy.

sednafx said:
I have sucessfully converted my AT&T HTC One to the Developers Edition. If install TWRP and root the device, then re-install the stock recovery, can I maintain the ability to receive OTA Updates?
Also can someone confirm that the 4.06.1540 recovery is the latest for 4.4.2 sense 6? (Found Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2545227)
Or if there is a better way to accomplish root etc.
Thank you in advance.
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The best thing to do is a nandroid of your stock rom & recovery prior to installing TWRP and obtaining root. If you need to go back to stock you will have it. I haven't seen the stock recovery for 4.4.2 sense 6, it should be 5.11.1540.9.

majmoz said:
The best thing to do is a nandroid of your stock rom & recovery prior to installing TWRP and obtaining root. If you need to go back to stock you will have it. I haven't seen the stock recovery for 4.4.2 sense 6, it should be 5.11.1540.9.
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Sure it is but unfortunately if has not been possible to (fastboot boot recovery.zip) since hboot 1.44
The best most people can do is after taking the update reflash TWRP and make a backup including recovery. then download and keep the stock recovery with it.

Thank you all for the response. Here is what I would like to do:
1. Backup my existing recovery through adb using the #dd command. Anyone know the correct syntax?
2. Install TWRP and backup the existing unrooted ROM.
3. Root the device. Do not remove any files from /system, no custom kernels (doesn't really matter since I will restore backup). Simply use titanium back to restore my apks and freeze the ones I don't use. I would like to install Xposed though.....
4. See OTA Update. Backup apks, restore unrooted. Restore stock recovery through adb. Anyone know why the syntax??
5. Run the OTA Update.
6. Profit.... Go back to step 1.
What do you all think? Any help with the syntax to dump and restore stock recovery?
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sednafx said:
1. Backup my existing recovery through adb using the #dd command. Anyone know the correct syntax?
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doesn't know the #dd command but recovery can be extracted from the firmware package inside the ota.zip
anyway, I have all the latest dev edition recovery so you'll save a little time:
4.06.1540.2 MD5: 2bb3d9df9ce8c8329db8d22781613e2c
4.06.1540.3 MD5: 87eaf7d4a9c4ba1108bf26164b1f3f3d
4.19.1540.4 MD5: 6e25ef0e614c41722b2fb4afbdde5d7c
4.19.1540.9 MD5: b4d31a181a9e44225dc83282bc1bf134
5.11.1540.9 MD5: c487a17382e2e1c207efae66fed00925
you need the one that match your actual version
2. Install TWRP and backup the existing unrooted ROM.
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Always a good thing to do, also make a copy of that backup on your computer.
3. Root the device. Do not remove any files from /system, no custom kernels (doesn't really matter since I will restore backup). Simply use titanium back to restore my apks and freeze the ones I don't use. I would like to install Xposed though.....
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no problem using xposed and receiving ota updates
4. See OTA Update. Backup apks, restore unrooted. Restore stock recovery through adb. Anyone know why the syntax??
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no need to restore your backup if you didnt modified/deleted /system or /preload files and your kernel is stock. Just restore your recovery
Code:
fastboot flash recovery name_of_file.img
fastboot erase cache
fastboot reboot
5. Run the OTA Update.
6. Profit.... Go back to step 1.
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More Questions on Receiving OTA's
@alray On Step 4, to receive the OTA's, in addition to restoring stock recovery, wouldn't it be necessary to unroot the device and disable Xposed?

gingerlindsey said:
@alray On Step 4, to receive the OTA's, in addition to restoring stock recovery, wouldn't it be necessary to unroot the device and disable Xposed?
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no need to unroot to be able to apply the ota but you might loose root after the update, in that case, root again after the update.
I have updated mine many times with xposed still enabled and didnt have any issue. But you might want to disable module like ''sense 5 toolbox'' when updating to sense 6... Anyway if you want to be safe, yes you can disable xposed but this is not required.

@alray Thank you very much! I was unrooting and disabling Xposed, etc. Good to know I can "Keep it Simple"!

@alray The link for the latest recovery is 404ed. Can you repost? EDIT: Nevermind. Removed the [/HIDE] from the link and it worked.
Where is the OTA saved BTW?
Thanks again for all the advise. I may update the OP to outline these in detail.

The ota is saved to /sdcard/downloads
Sorry for the bad link, it should work now
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alray said:
The ota is saved to /sdcard/downloads
Sorry for the bad link, it should work now
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That path makes perfect sense.... I feel like captain obvious smacked me in the face..... Thanks!!!!!
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[Q] Firmware update without S-OFF by switching back to StockRom and Update?

Hi everybody.
my HTC one has Viper 5.8 running with S-ON and i like it that way.
I never updated the Firmware since i moved from the 4.2.2 stock rom. (i have nandroid backup of the stock rom)
I am a bit scared doing S-OFF "just" to update firmware, hboot and radio, I know it should be easy to do, but i just don't want to.
So i thought that maybe i can flash back to the stock rom, then make the offical HTC update to 4.3 sense 6 (should also flash newest firmware right?) and then unlock the bootloader again, flash twrp and custom rom again.
Would that work? Is there something i have to pay attention to?
thx for any help!!!!

sancho777 said:
Hi everybody.
my HTC one has Viper 5.8 running with S-ON and i like it that way.
I never updated the Firmware since i moved from the 4.2.2 stock rom. (i have nandroid backup of the stock rom)
I am a bit scared doing S-OFF "just" to update firmware, hboot and radio, I know it should be easy to do, but i just don't want to.
So i thought that maybe i can flash back to the stock rom, then make the offical HTC update to 4.3 sense 6 (should also flash newest firmware right?) and then unlock the bootloader again, flash twrp and custom rom again.
Would that work? Is there something i have to pay attention to?
thx for any help!!!!
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Since you don't want S-Off, that is your best option. I would follow closely @Mike1986 [GUIDE] Complete Flashing Guide | Rooting | Going Back To Stock it is for those who are S-On.

Thanks, I will follow the guide.
But I have one more question:
Can I do the official HTC update from the htc stock rom while I still have custom recovery and bootloader unlocked?
Can't find any any info if there is any risk involved not changing back first to stock recovery and bootloader relocked before doing the update.
I guess recovery will be overwritten by the official update?!?

You need stock recovery and locked bootloader to take updates

SaHiLzZ said:
You need stock recovery and locked bootloader to take updates
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you don't need a locked bootloader to get an official ota update,however,you do need to flash a stock recovery !!.
I went through the ota update method to update my firmware as for some reason my htc one wouldn't s-off and I felt that it wasn't running as it should on custom roms with the old firmware.
I started off with a flashable zip -4.06.1540.2,developer edition then ota updates,always doing a nand backup of rom.
always pull the stock recovery image from the ota before updating...
i'm now running 5.11.1540.9 firmware and all custom roms are running good...
if you google 4.06.1540.2 dev edition flashable zip you should find it,if not,i can upload it too somewhere for you...
an official htc ota update changes your firmware and installs a stock recovery..
its a bit long winded this way,but,it was the only way for me !!

markb63 said:
I started off with a flashable zip -4.06.1540.2,developer edition then ota updates,always doing a nand backup of rom.
always pull the stock recovery image from the ota before updating...
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First thank you for sharing your experience.
When you say "zip -4.06.1540.2,developer edition" then you mean the rom, correct?
Why would you pull the stock recovery from the OTA before updating? What would be the consequence of leaving it in?
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so i would download the odexed stock rom from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48111304
and afterwards flash the according recovery.img, correct?
i guess it is no problem that my phone (and their for the bootloader) was not a developer edition

sancho777 said:
First thank you for sharing your experience.
When you say "zip -4.06.1540.2,developer edition" then you mean the rom, correct?
Why would you pull the stock recovery from the OTA before updating? What would be the consequence of leaving it in?
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yeah,it's a full flashable rom,that can be installed by custom recovery,when I say pull the stock recovery,i mean copy it to a folder on your pc,always best to have the matching recovery for your stock rom.

[Q] HTC M7 Lolipop

Hello, I just got an update for Lolipop on my phone, was just wondering what should I do with my root applications? Should I unroot then update or does it matter? Also, what about my recovery I have installed?
Also I have Busybox installed.

Lifehags said:
Hello, I just got an update for Lolipop on my phone, was just wondering what should I do with my root applications? Should I unroot then update or does it matter? Also, what about my recovery I have installed?
Also I have Busybox installed.
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You can't update with custom recovery or altered system files
return the phone to stock / stock recovery / then try the update

clsA said:
You can't update with custom recovery or altered system files
return the phone to stock / stock recovery / then try the update
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I have made a Nandroid before I installed busy box, can I use that?

Lifehags said:
I have made a Nandroid before I installed busy box, can I use that?
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Sure, a Stock Nandroid is the perfect way to restore your phone to Stock. Just flash stock recovery after the nandroid and your good to go.

Firmware update problems after rooting

Hey , im new to rooting and the forums so sorry if somethings are not properly explained.
I recently managed to root my uk variant m7 unlocked to any service with the latest twrp recovery.
I have recently found the venom rom which i would like to install to futher customize my rooted device, but i need to upgrade my android to 5.0.2 and i am currently on 4.2.2.
in the toolbar it says 'system update avaliable' and after installing it says 'system update ready' and im guessing this will bring me to 5.0.2 firmware. after clicking on it it reboots my phone and for some reason enters the recovery. from this point i do not know what to do.
so to summarise, i need to upgrade my m7 from 4.2.2 to 5.0.2 nut when i do it enters my twrp recovery and i do not know what to do
system details:
HTC One M7 UK variant unlocked to any service
rooted with SuperSU
Stock rom (4.2.2)
Stock kernel
Thanks

Julian1738 said:
im guessing this will bring me to 5.0.2 firmware.
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no, there are a lot of updates between 4.2.2 and 5.0.2
after clicking on it it reboots my phone and for some reason enters the recovery.
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Because the ota update is supposed to be flashed from stock recovery.
so to summarise, i need to upgrade my m7 from 4.2.2 to 5.0.2 nut when i do it enters my twrp recovery and i do not know what to do
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You can't update your phone in its current status. You need stock recovery installed, unmodified /system files and /data/preload which is deleted during the htcdev bootloader unlock process. You'll probably need to use a RUU or something else.
system details:
HTC One M7 UK variant unlocked to any service
rooted with SuperSU
Stock rom (4.2.2)
Stock kernel
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Unfortunately, this is not really relevant info, post the output of "fastboot getvar all" command, remove your IMEI # before posting.

so i have to unroot my phone
great this is going to take a while :/
if i factory reset my phone will it remove the bootloader and root?

Julian1738 said:
if i factory reset my phone will it remove the bootloader
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What? You might want to read about what a bootloader is
A device without a booloader is called a paperweight
and root?
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A factory reset only wipes user data. Root files are stored in /system partition which is not affected by a factory reset so short answer no, like I said you'll probably need a RUU or something else (stock odex rom/nandroid backup/guru reset rom) to reset your phone back to stock. Post the output of "fastboot getvar all"

alray said:
You can't update your phone in its current status. You need stock recovery installed, unmodified /system files and /data/preload which is deleted during the htcdev bootloader unlock process. You'll probably need to use a RUU or something else.
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Its possible to download the update elsewhere and install it through twrp recovery?
If yes, where i can find these updates in zip form?
If not, what's the simple option to install the update?
thanks

tkdfilipe said:
Its possible to download the update elsewhere and install it through twrp recovery?
If yes, where i can find these updates in zip form?
If not, what's the simple option to install the update?
thanks
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If your phone is S-off, you can download the Ota zip files and install them incrementally (can't skip a version) using stock recovery. That doesn't change the fact that all files in /system and /data/preload must be unmodified.
Imo, the simplest way to update if your phone isn't stock is with a RUU. If your phone is stock, reflash stock recovery and update with Ota, if it's stock and soff you can update with Ota zip files if you can find all the ones you need.
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