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Hey everyone,
Made this video to compare the 2., You can see the clear winner as far as 'butter' experience goes. I'm happy with both, but I thought I share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiKGUPNd03M
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Xoom looks so washed out in color compared to the 7......for a nightly on the zoom it runs pretty good
you could have cleaned the screen on the Xoom before you made the vid!! lol
I should have. Lol
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Remember it's also the only tablet running jelly bean besides the nexus 7 in a usable configuration
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Remember it's also the only tablet running jelly bean besides the nexus 7 in a usable configuration
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Not true...Kindle Fire is pretty much fully working. Hascode fixed HW acceleration. I am leaving JB on as my DD.
brizey said:
Not true...Kindle Fire is pretty much fully working. Hascode fixed HW acceleration. I am leaving JB on as my DD.
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we had a kindle. Lovely device... until the nexus came out.
You can't even utilize things like Google voice, maps with gps etc.
But I guess that still counts. I would never put the kindle in the same category as these devices though. We had one until 2 days ago. It sold within 10 minutes, which was $135
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I am just giving mine to my son. My daughter already has an A200. Can't wait until Monday.
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brizey said:
I am just giving mine to my son. My daughter already has an A200. Can't wait until Monday.
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You won't be disappointed man its a sweet tablet, and my 2nd one shipped Friday from the play store. What's better than a Nexus 7? TWO Nexus 7's!
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brizey said:
I am just giving mine to my son. My daughter already has an A200. Can't wait until Monday.
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Perfect.
You're gonna love the nexus 7 if you are coming from the kindle. Like I said, we are coming from a fire, and it's night and day. Maybe if I rooted the kf, it would have been closer. But I don't like to root devices my other half is using. I only root the stuff I use.
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Clienterror said:
You won't be disappointed man its a sweet tablet, and my 2nd one shipped Friday from the play store. What's better than a Nexus 7? TWO Nexus 7's!
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I know what's better than two nexus 7's.......three nexus 7's. Got my three from Sam's Club last night.....
B-Mod said:
I know what's better than two nexus 7's.......three nexus 7's. Got my three from Sam's Club last night.....
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Lol.. one for all the members in the family? Lol
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razorseal said:
Hey everyone,
Made this video to compare the 2., You can see the clear winner as far as 'butter' experience goes. I'm happy with both, but I thought I share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiKGUPNd03M
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Good video I cant wait for it to offically be release I might say screw it to my data plan with Verizon lol
guys, quick little update. I shut off the live wallpaper on the xoom, and it's considerably faster now. Still not 'just like nexus 7' but much much smoother. I'm gonna make another video now and you guys will see the improvement in smoothness and performance. FWIW, I also went from 110 to 111 nightly.
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guys, quick little update. I shut off the live wallpaper on the xoom, and it's considerably faster now. Still not 'just like nexus 7' but much much smoother. I'm gonna make another video now and you guys will see the improvement in smoothness and performance. FWIW, I also went from 110 to 111 nightly.
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I was going to say... you kind of crippled the Xoom having the wallpaper up. While the n7 was made for jellybean I think its more a product of having such newer hardware in the n7 compared to the Xoom. You have faster memory, quad core, and a more powerful GPU on the n7. Even though PPI settings are set higher for the n7, effectively you have less going on, less screen real estate etc for the same or similar resolution. I'd like to see the build.prop edited on the Xoom the same as the n7 if it could be displayed without crashing with everything possible configured the same. I think you are still going to see the fact that the n7 is a generation newer processor wise will still beat out the Xoom.
On the other hand, it still looks pretty nice on the Xoom. Jb breathes new life into dual core devices!
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indeed...
video is rendering still, when done, here is the link
http://youtu.be/4yVH53OD9UM
As he correctly points out in the video, he's using a custom hacked together ROM on the Xoom vs. a stable ROM on the Nexus 7. What he doesn't mention is that the Xoom ROM is a port. It's not compiled from source...it can't be. Google hasn't dropped the Xoom source code for JB into AOSP yet.
Let's compare this again when the Xoom actually has source code available and someone compiles a raw AOSP ROM for it, thus we can compare apples to apples.
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As he correctly points out in the video, he's using a custom hacked together ROM on the Xoom vs. a stable ROM on the Nexus 7. What he doesn't mention is that the Xoom ROM is a port. It's not compiled from source...it can't be. Google hasn't dropped the Xoom source code for JB into AOSP yet.
Let's compare this again when the Xoom actually has source code available and someone compiles a raw AOSP ROM for it, thus we can compare apples to apples.
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you think Google builds aosp source code for every device? your smokin!
hash code built jellybean from SOURCE and created the device tree, added necessary drives, and compiled. far from a port, I would only assume the same was done for the Xoom. a port? cmon!
Your accent is ridiculous. Good comparison though.
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you think Google builds aosp source code for every device? your smokin!
hash code built jellybean from SOURCE and created the device tree, added necessary drives, and compiled. far from a port, I would only assume the same was done for the Xoom. a port? cmon!
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OK you're right, I stand corrected. You can probably build for the wingray and stringray out of what's there now, but there are still no binaries for JB for either the Xoom or Nexus S. I'd imagine things will still run better once that stuff is available, particularly updated graphics drivers.
http://gizmodo.com/5973073/an-iphone-lovers-confession-i-switched-to-the-nexus-4-completely
Here is a good article giving reasons for switching from an iPhone to the Nexus 4.
Nice write up, and SPOT ON.
Was a good read and unbiased ! Neither OS is perfect but Android is closer
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Was a good read and unbiased ! Neither OS is perfect but Android is closer
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He couldn't live with the Galaxy S3 but he's suddenly in love with the Nexus 4?
That's the part I'm failing to understand.
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He couldn't live with the Galaxy S3 but he's suddenly in love with the Nexus 4?
That's the part I'm failing to understand.
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Lots of people find Touchwiz horrible
Touch wiz is more comparable to iOS than stock android is I would say. Plus, all of the must have apps that he mentions are also available on the S3.
As a new iPhone 5 owner, I actually agree with him - Jellybean is the best mobile OS - but the difference between the S3 and Nexus 4 is negligible, in my opinion.
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Lots of people find Touchwiz horrible
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I can't stand touchwiz. The core android functionally is there on the S3, but I can see why he likes the N4. Simple is beautiful.
You should post this article on some iPhone forum, and not on a Nexus 4 forum. There you might be able to convert some people. We know that the Nexus 4 is streets ahead.
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Touch wiz is more comparable to iOS than stock android is I would say. Plus, all of the must have apps that he mentions are also available on the S3.
As a new iPhone 5 owner, I actually agree with him - Jellybean is the best mobile OS - but the difference between the S3 and Nexus 4 is negligible, in my opinion.
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The only difference between s3 and nexus is come may and we will be rocking key lime Poe and S3 users will have to wait for 3-4 months for it.. By Dec we will have another update for us where as s3 users won't know if they'll get it or not since s4 would be release by then.
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Im in the same boat, i have a iphone 4s and a iphone 5, and still uses the nexus 4 daily... Ios became boring just plain boring... And the lack of integration in the os just makes me sick... I still love my iphones , but prefer the N4 for now...
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Android os is better but an iPhone is a better phone overall. Battery and screen are amazing. Nexus 4 screen is nothing brag about. The price is the main bragging point.
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Hi guys. I have a Nexus S and I already posted this in the NS and N4 forums.
Now... I've been wanting a Nexus 7 ever since it was announced, but only now that I can afford one.
But now I see I've got a chance to buy a 16gb Nexus 4.
I was planning on continuing to use my Nexus S as it totally rocks running CM10.1 and using the Nexus 7 for browsing the web around the house and playing games.
If I would buy the Nexus 4 I would obviously not afford the Nexus 7 for a while. But the Nexus 4 is such a sexy piece of hardware and it has a much better camera than the Nexus S and I've got a baby on the way and I would love to be able to take good pictures and HD videos of my little ones.
Help me decide!
Nexus 7 + Nexus S
Or
Nexus 4 only
I´ll tell you one thing that might sway your opinion a bit...
I am in Iceland... A 16gb Nexus 4 is 99.900 ISK = 775 USD. A 32gb Nexus 7 is 59.900 ISK = 465 USD.
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Well, speaking as a newer parent (22 month old daughter) in the long run you'll value your pictures far more than whatever hardware you get today. So if the phone will be your primary camera, get one with a good camera...and fast. My Evo 3D was so slow from button press to photo actually taken, I kept missing great shots...but I digress.
Those prices really suck though...makes me think there could be money being a technology mule. LOL
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Nexus 7 + Nexus S.
Then wait for the next nexus phone or the 'rumoured' X-Phone by Motorola.
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Nexus 4. Quality pictures of your baby will be more valuable. Later on you can get the new nexus 7 inch device.
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Sounds like a tough pickle...if it wasn't for the pictures I would say go nexus s and nexus 7 that is about to be my combo when my nexus 7 comes in. I went with that option simply because I was tired of waiting to get a nexus 4 that and I am temporarily computerless.
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Well if you get them shipped from america and paid american prices you could get both for the price you are paying for the N4.
There are companies you can use to buy them and ship them to you.
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I recommend you the 7 & nS combo.
The 7 is a dream.
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I would say you should get the Nexus 7 and keep the Nexus S. That is what I did, and I love it.
I would take the Nexus 7 cause i don't care about camera and the nexus s can do almost all things the nexus 4 can.It's just slower.
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I'm actually swaying toward the NS+N7 combo.
I'm seeing a lot of threads about issues with the N4. I'm not the type who has to have the newest gadgets so I think I might just wait until most of the issues with it have been resolved and then it might have reduced in price a bit here in Iceland.
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I have both the Nexus 7 and Nexus 4.
You should definitely get the n4. Why downgrade to a 2 year phone? I bought the n7 first then a month later i got the n4. It's been great so far. My only wish is that my n4 would be more battery efficient like my n7. I love my n7 because of the size, gaming performance is amazing, and did i mention battery life is superb?
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I have both the Nexus 7 and Nexus 4.
You should definitely get the n4. Why downgrade to a 2 year phone? I bought the n7 first then a month later i got the n4. It's been great so far. My only wish is that my n4 would be more battery efficient like my n7. I love my n7 because of the size, gaming performance is amazing, and did i mention battery life is superb?
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He already has the Nexus S. I think he should import for sure though... But good luck finding a Nexus 4 right now.
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Mac of York said:
He already has the Nexus S. I think he should import for sure though... But good luck finding a Nexus 4 right now.
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Yea the nexus 4 has been out of stock for a while now.
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My Nexus S can do pretty much anything the Nexus 4 can... Although a lot slower I am rooted, running CM10.1
I think a Nexus 7 will quench my thirst for a quicker device which can browse the web and play games around the house.
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My Nexus S can do pretty much anything the Nexus 4 can... Although a lot slower I am rooted, running CM10.1
I think a Nexus 7 will quench my thirst for a quicker device which can browse the web and play games around the house.
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I have lived the nexus 7 since launch. if you need a phone as your main camera thenget a Samsung. I bought a nexus 4 sixteengig. sold out right away and bought notetwo. battery life wasn't that Good andno ability to swap batteries. the 3100 mah battery on this bad boy means you will never . miss a photo or video opportunity due to dead battery. internal plus a 64gig external means recording lots of hd video. I would hit eBay.
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I was also considering a new phone, but got the 7 instead, and I'm so glad I did. Love it. Quite happy still using my galaxy s(1) for a while longer. The nexus 7 is something different than just another phone, when you already got a phone that you're still happy with.
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So the general consensus is "screw the kid and your memories, get a tablet instead?" Nice... :what:
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Get the N7. The Nexus 4 to me, just isn't worth it. Too many things led me to not buying one, and I instead stuck with my Gnex. 90% of users don't even use that Snapdragon CPU. The camera isn't that great. Front and back both glass which is a big no no for me.
Trust me, the N7 is well worth it.
It seems to me that with that difference in price, you could buy the N7 and then get a decent little point and shoot (or maybe even a super zoom) camera. Keep your S for a while and save, then buy the N4 if it's still what you want.
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So the general consensus is "screw the kid and your memories, get a tablet instead?" Nice... :what:
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Hah! I've been using the Nexus S as my main camera for over a year now and I've been fine with it. Not great photos, but I can live with it.
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Taking about GN being a great phone with great Dev support. I am finding my self skipping two generations of android phone with out any regrets, namely s3 now to be s4, and nexus 4.
Anyone waiting for the Nexus5 before thinking about upgrading?
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here!
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Let's wait for my phone to break, don't have the money to keep buying new phones.
If KLP lags on the gnex, i'm going back to ICS..
Me waiting for the next Nexus too. Currently I don't want to change, because I am more than happy with that
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Let's wait for my phone to break, don't have the money to keep buying new phones.
If KLP lags on the gnex, i'm going back to ICS..
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seriously? ICS was laggy as hell.
It depends on a screen size (and free funds to spend of course ). If the screen size is 5" or bigger I will consider N4 of HTC One.
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Let's wait for my phone to break, don't have the money to keep buying new phones.
If KLP lags on the gnex, i'm going back to ICS..
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How about jellybean? That helped with almost all my ics lags.
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I agree I just traded my i9000 against a gnex and I am more than happy
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I hope the next nexus will be from HTC. Their build quality never disappoints. But for now I'll stick to my gnex..
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Never getting anything but nexus devices when it comes to android. I also skipped the nexus 4, imo upgrade wasn't worth it.
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And anyways, whatever new features are announced in KLP will be made for the next nexus in mind.
I am, however will depend if it comes to sprint. Have a great employee discount can't switch carriers
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Probably going to switch to the one this summer.
Really liking the design of that phone. The s4 just seems way too big for me and I would rather have a longer phone than a wider phone
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Probably going to switch to the one this summer.
Really liking the design of that phone. The s4 just seems way too big for me and I would rather have a longer phone than a wider phone
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The One will be my next phone if it comes to Verizon. I just want something with build quality like the One or iPhone.
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Here here....current galaxy nexus owner and future nexus owner. I have a sprint gnex and a nexus 7 and I hope sprint gets the 5. My wife has an I pad and an iPhone 5. Swear not because I own android but I think as far as development and hacking go, apple doesn't come close
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My upgrade is in September so I still have some time to go. If Google comes out with a vastly improved nexus without a recycled design from another device. By vastly improved I'm talking about Camera quality, LTE, full HD screen and battery life. Sure I'll go for the nexus 5 but if they don't improve all those than I'm going to contemplate jumping ship.
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Hmmmm...Nexus 5. If you'll note, the current nexus lineup are all named according to the display size. For Google to add a 4th nexus device to the lineup is unlikely (to much to manage), so the best guess is a refresh of the nexus 4, possibly by another manufacturer, and probably later in the year. What we can expect for I/O is a refresh on the nexus 7 (with the same name), and possibly a non-nexus device from Motorola that runs stock Android.
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Hmmmm...Nexus 5. If you'll note, the current nexus lineup are all named according to the display size. For Google to add a 4th nexus device to the lineup is unlikely (to much to manage), so the best guess is a refresh of the nexus 4, possibly by another manufacturer, and probably later in the year. What we can expect for I/O is a refresh on the nexus 7 (with the same name), and possibly a non-nexus device from Motorola that runs stock Android.
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I think we could expect a new phone as well. Considering that key lime pie is a major update, there is bound to be new features for phones not just tablets. So they will be probably need another device to show off the new features of the new build. I'm doubting they will use a nexus 4 as a demo device, its already fairly old news.
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I think we could expect a new phone as well. Considering that key lime pie is a major update, there is bound to be new features for phones not just tablets. So they will be probably need another device to show off the new features of the new build. I'm doubting they will use a nexus 4 as a demo device, its already fairly old news.
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Yea but they first launched jellybean on the gnex when it was already 8 months old at the time instead of bringing out a new phone to launch jellybean with.
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Yea but they first launched jellybean on the gnex when it was already 8 months old at the time instead of bringing out a new phone to launch jellybean with.
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Didn't they launch jellybean on the Nexus 7?
Just wondering who here who has the Nexus 4 is planning to get the impending Nexus 5 when it comes out in a 'few' weeks?
NB lets just all assume that its based on the LG G2 with 4G LTE, Snapdragon 800, 2 GB RAM, 5.2 inch display etc etc and the N4 will get 4.4 on release.
I will most likely. The only thing I really hate (amongst other things) on my nexus 4 and nexus 7 is that the aspect ratio is no longer 16:9 like it was with the galaxy nexus. It really kills the video viewing experience.
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I will upgrade wen it launches
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Almost all Nexus addicts!
I'm all ready to put my order in before it goes outta stock on Google Play
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I'm on the fence. Just jumped on the Nexus bandwagon a week ago just using the N4 as a stop gap until I got the phone I wanted (I have issues) even if it would be a month. But my eyes have been opened to the fact that my life is improved by a smartphone and drastically improved by a very good one.
So I'm in love with my Nexus 4 and we're planning on having a summer wedding.
But seriously, I think I'll be upgrading when the price drops in time for the next Nexus, but just not so I can be on the bleeding edge.
My Nexus 4 is already fast, has great battery life, LTE, takes decent pics, etc etc. Unless they add some really useful feature like expandable storage/removable battery or something along those lines (and I doubt they will add those) I won't be upgrading for at least a little while. Time will tell.
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It's my plan...but I'm waiting for more compelling info/specs...the N4 is damn nice, so I'd need a few extra reasons to blow the wad.
I want to see the specs of the N5 because I bought my N4 4 months ago, but depending on my finances *crosses fingers for the sheriff it job*, than I will definitely upgrade and give my n4 to my daughter. I have the old N7 *2012* and love it as well as I love my n4.. I voted for keeping my n4 but I don't know just yet..
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Why not? If I sell my N4 and the next Nexus 4/5 is going to debut around the same price as its predecessor, it'd only be around an extra $100 or so.
Cannot wait for the Nexus 5!! Will definitely be upgrading
I'm going to upgrade. Main reason is because I like to keep up with the PA devs and from what I hear they're all moving on and will be maintaining one singular device .
I think I'll keep the N4 for awhile. I got both the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus right away, so now I'm going to stick with the Nexus 4. Maybe I'll think about getting it if they release it in white at a later date.
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Would keep it, n4 would be getting 4.4, and I just use n4 to flash the latest as it is my flashing device. I use HTC one for taking pictures, listening to songs, watching videis etc. Love them both, keep switching them bi weekly.
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I'm planning to. I love my N4 but I'm really underwhelmed with the camera. I also would like legitimate LTE without the fuss of mods.
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Definitely looking to get either the nexus 5 or the note 3. Not quite sure which one right now but the nexus price tag will probably sway me.
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My Nexus 4 is already fast, has great battery life, LTE, takes decent pics, etc etc. Unless they add some really useful feature like expandable storage/removable battery or something along those lines (and I doubt they will add those) I won't be upgrading for at least a little while. Time will tell.
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What's the secret in getting a clean/crisp picture indoor? Haven't gotten one yet. Only decent picture I've gotten so far were outdoors when the sun is beaming.
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We still don't have any pricing/specs confirmation to be able to answer OP's question.
If it's going to have a 500/600$ price tag, a lot of those who "plan to buy it" will stick to their n4.
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Yep first day it is on sale I am buying one!
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What's the secret in getting a clean/crisp picture indoor? Haven't gotten one yet. Only decent picture I've gotten so far were outdoors when the sun is beaming.
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I've taken literally hundreds of photos with my N4. I've tried a few camera apps from the Play Store, the CM10.1-10.2 cameras, as well as Focal. I honestly don't believe you can get decent picture indoors without HDR, adequate lighting, and an incredibly steady hand.
I was recently visiting my sister who has a S4 and we were both taking pictures of my niece. Same room, same lighting and her photos were coming out exponentially better than mine. If the Nexus 5 has a camera on par with the S4/One/iPhone 5 I'll be happy. If it can challenge the 5S, even better (but I doubt it).