[Q] Frightened Old Guy in need of upgrade to WP 8 - Windows Phone 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Firstly I am getting older, thus I just lack the knowledge you younger smarter folk have. So I would like to know what my options are when you see my needs.
I would like a larger screen, as the phone I have now is just too small 3.7" on my HTC Radar. Due to age and other I am starting to loose my sight, so I think a 5 or 6 inch screen would fit my needs. I also think I read somewhere that with WP8 and it's update to GDR3 there are added settings for someone who has poor eyes. I have looked at a Galaxy Note 2, but I just do not like Android.
I always buy my phones outright, as I never lock into a plan, and I prefer to run pay as you go. Now from everything I can find online as of yet no Mobile companies here in Canada have said they will carry the new Nokia phones ( correct me if I am wrong), so I guess I will have to buy unlocked. But which site would be best....that ships to Canada.
Lastly I am through Wind Mobile here in Canada on a $40/month Unlimited prepay plan that I love!! So What phone will work with the network I am on???
Do I have any hope of ending up with a phone that will fit me, or will I have to change to a Note 2 or 3 ???

The largest-screen WP8 device that I *know* is available right now is the Samsung ATIV S, at 4.8" with a 1280x720 display. As you mentioned, yes, there are settings to scale up text size and such. I bought mine from Amazon (it was intended for TELUS but SIM-unlocked from the factory with no external branding). There are other sites, such as Expansys, which are also known for offering international shipping on phones.
Nokia has announced two new phones with huge screens, the Lumia 1520 (http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia1520) which has a 6" screen and 1920x1080 resolution (but will run a high price), and the Lumia 1320 (http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia1320) which has the same 6" screen but at "only" 1280x720. The 1320 is a mid-range (in features and price) alternative, though its specs are still respectable; 1GB of RAM (enough for all WP8 apps), 8GB internal storage + microSD (cramped but you can put all your photos and such on the card), dual-core CPU but clocked at 1.7GHz. The camera is a low-ish end 5MPixels, but you get the Nokia photo apps and the optics are probably better than most other comparably mid-range phones will have, and it does have a (VGA-res only) front-facing camera too.
As for where to buy it... I'm just going to recommend doing some searching online. There will be options, if not yet, then soon.

GoodDayToDie said:
The largest-screen WP8 device that I *know* is available right now is the Samsung ATIV S, at 4.8" with a 1280x720 display. As you mentioned, yes, there are settings to scale up text size and such. I bought mine from Amazon (it was intended for TELUS but SIM-unlocked from the factory with no external branding). There are other sites, such as Expansys, which are also known for offering international shipping on phones.
Nokia has announced two new phones with huge screens, the Lumia 1520 (http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia1520) which has a 6" screen and 1920x1080 resolution (but will run a high price), and the Lumia 1320 (http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia1320) which has the same 6" screen but at "only" 1280x720. The 1320 is a mid-range (in features and price) alternative, though its specs are still respectable; 1GB of RAM (enough for all WP8 apps), 8GB internal storage + microSD (cramped but you can put all your photos and such on the card), dual-core CPU but clocked at 1.7GHz. The camera is a low-ish end 5MPixels, but you get the Nokia photo apps and the optics are probably better than most other comparably mid-range phones will have, and it does have a (VGA-res only) front-facing camera too.
As for where to buy it... I'm just going to recommend doing some searching online. There will be options, if not yet, then soon.
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Many many Thanks GoodDay !!!
I would have held out for the 1520 or the 1320, but as I saw online they will not work on Wind. So I ended up getting a Nokia 1020.
So I have gone from WP7.8 to 8 and a 3.7" screen to 4.5" with the text size pushed up. So far it looks as if this will fit my needs. As there is still room on the slide bar to make the text even bigger as my sight goes from bad to worse. :fingers-crossed:

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Any one considering the Ativ S?

If so, why??
The only reason I might buy it would be a very very low price as compared to Lumia or HTC...
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Which is the price?
I'm considering to buy it because of its specs and think it would be cheaper
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Probably I will buy this one.
2300 mah battery
sdcard support
thin and light
I'm very interested in the Ativ S, just hope it does come to Sweden. I was interested in HTC Surround, but it never got here.
ruyzalim said:
Which is the price?
I'm considering to buy it because of its specs and think it would be cheaper
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I'm just waiting for the prize of the device....if it's in the same range of the 8X and L920 ill rather take the 8S (im short of money xD)
I'm considering the Ativ S, entirely because of the large HD screen combined with a removable battery and SD card expansion (as well as the thin/light profile). I've been going back and forth for weeks about the merits of the Ativ vs the 920 (the 8X isn't an option for me with the amount of storage - I have 24 GB now and constantly run out of room).
I think the replaceable battery and storage expansion may win out over the screen improvements, camera, and other Nokia advantages. I need a lot of local storage, and I don't want to be stuck needing to plug in or carry a bulky morphie pack or something similar on top of an already very large phone profile. I've also a fan of AMOLED, even pentile AMOLED if the resolution is decent. Finally, I want to see how WP8 does as a gaming platform, and games will burn through batteries at 2-3x the rate of standard battery usage.
So... I'm seriously looking at the Ativ S. Will have to get a hold of the Ativ and 920 to compare before making a decision though.
Absolutely going with the ativ s. Ive seen people comparing it to the galaxy s3 like its a bad thing. Dont understand that logic.
Sd card
Largest screen
Removable battery
Thin/light
All have the same chipset
To me wireless charging is useless
"Better camera" is not great if you dont have the extra storage and have to transfer files a lot
Lumia screens are not centered on device
Support/upgrades for the device are bs after 6 months with any manufacturer as it mostly depends on your wireless carrier
Im getting the wife an ativ s as she loves the form factor of the s3 but the plastic feels cheap. If the Ativ also feels the same may have a rethink. I will be going for the lumia 920 but tbh i may also wait as it involves buying out anyway and i want to see if the MS made phone is legit.
I think the Ativ is unfairly looked over it has a good screen not lumia no but still top end and the battery is 15% bigger and you have sd card and having a full music collection is important as i do not allow iTunes on my computer now and carrying an extra device is just pointless. I think we should not underestimate the importance of getting the basics right, look at the 8x they put beats onboard with 2 amps etc then forgot that you need storage for music #iditots!
Jiggity Janx said:
Absolutely going with the ativ s. Ive seen people comparing it to the galaxy s3 like its a bad thing. Dont understand that logic.
Sd card
Largest screen
Removable battery
Thin/light
All have the same chipset
To me wireless charging is useless
"Better camera" is not great if you dont have the extra storage and have to transfer files a lot
Lumia screens are not centered on device
Support/upgrades for the device are bs after 6 months with any manufacturer as it mostly depends on your wireless carrier
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The Galaxy S3 is rumored to have wireless charging....so maybe the ATIV S does ? Just nothing published yet...
I really want the 920 but, I might take a serious look at the ATIV S, The larger screen, swappable batteries and the MicroSD might just win it out... I gota see/hold it to say for sure...unless my carrier (Verizon wireless in the US) ends up with the 920, I will get that, as the camera on the 920 wins it...

[Q] Is Nokia Lumia 720 good ?

I want to buy a WP8 phone.Nokia Lumia 720 is recommended by me.Is this phone good?Or you can help me choose another cheap WP8 phones?
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The 720 is a good phone but from what I have seen so far the Samsung Ativ S can be bought for the same Price or even less than what they're taking for the 720 now (have seen the Ativ S run as low as € 259). The Ativ S has a stronger CPU and 1 GB of RAM so you won't run into Problems with high end games that require more Memory than the 720 has. Also it has a higher Resolution Screen.
On the other side you miss out on the Nokia Apps and having a 920 I know that I really like them and use them a lot.
Another cheaper alternative to the 720 would be the 620. It's less good looking but cheaper and includes Nokia Drive+ (worldwide Navigation license) instead of "only" Nokia Drive (regional license). God knows why Nokia opted to only include the regular drive on it's two newest models.
So without knowledge about availability in Malaysia I would recommend to check out availability of the Ativ S first. At that Price it is really an amazing device. Wether you can live with a less colorful design and without Nokia's additional Apps is then up to you.
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The 720 is a good phone but from what I have seen so far the Samsung Ativ S can be bought for the same Price or even less than what they're taking for the 720 now (have seen the Ativ S run as low as € 259). The Ativ S has a stronger CPU and 1 GB of RAM so you won't run into Problems with high end games that require more Memory than the 720 has. Also it has a higher Resolution Screen.
On the other side you miss out on the Nokia Apps and having a 920 I know that I really like them and use them a lot.
Another cheaper alternative to the 720 would be the 620. It's less good looking but cheaper and includes Nokia Drive+ (worldwide Navigation license) instead of "only" Nokia Drive (regional license). God knows why Nokia opted to only include the regular drive on it's two newest models.
So without knowledge about availability in Malaysia I would recommend to check out availability of the Ativ S first. At that Price it is really an amazing device. Wether you can live with a less colorful design and without Nokia's additional Apps is then up to you.
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Lumia 720 price RM999(no carrier contact)
Ativ S price RM1699(no carrier contact)
Is Europe country buy these phones with amazing prices need carrier contact?
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No, those are unlocked/unbranded open market devices. At Amazon it runs at around 300€ for several weeks now: http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-GT-I87...7776782&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=samsung+ativv+s
The 720 meanwhile is at 350 € http://www.amazon.de/Nokia-Smartpho...UTF8&qid=1367776886&sr=1-1&keywords=lumia+720
I would not have brought up that comparison if I knew that one was carrier subsidized and the other was not.
price
i didn't think it cost that much

[Q] Contemplating switch to WinMob from Android

I have been a avid android user and supporter for some years now but lately some of the models has started to let me down as time as has started to pass. Presently there are no Android phones that really gets me going and at the same point I would like to try out Windows Phone 8, but then problem comes; which phone to choose >.<
I ideally want one which has a MicroSD card slot, since I have a 64 gig card in my 9305 (SGS3 4g) that I want to transplant over, but hopefully at the same time not being forced to stick with an inferior WinMob model or version compared to what is already around and available. I am living in Europe which naturally also puts a hamper on the available models to me.
But any recommendations?
The top-end Windows Phone handset that also offers microSD support is the Samsung Ativ S. It's basically identical hardware to the GS3, though you might get better performance than was possible with Android (WP7 was better than Android on the same hardware, not sure about WP8). The best WP8 devices in general are going to be the Lumia 92x (920 and the recently-announced 925 and 928) models, but while these come with up to 32GB of internal storage they lack microSD cards, and their CPU/GPU/RAM are basically the same as the Ativ S (resolution is very slightly higher, 1280x768 instead of 1280x720).
MeX_DK said:
I have been a avid android user and supporter for some years now but lately some of the models has started to let me down as time as has started to pass. Presently there are no Android phones that really gets me going and at the same point I would like to try out Windows Phone 8, but then problem comes; which phone to choose >.<
I ideally want one which has a MicroSD card slot, since I have a 64 gig card in my 9305 (SGS3 4g) that I want to transplant over, but hopefully at the same time not being forced to stick with an inferior WinMob model or version compared to what is already around and available. I am living in Europe which naturally also puts a hamper on the available models to me.
But any recommendations?
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Well, do you have a budget in mind? Although the Samsung Ativ S is a good phone, they lack of any particular support from Samsung is damning. As a result, as of now, if you really want a high end Windows Phone which will also get supported from the maker, then that has to be the Lumia 920 (although it doesn't have a card slot). The other option would be to get hold of the Lumia 720 (incredibly sleek as well as having a card slot), though not really high end, but in many opinions, better than the Lumia 820 (which does have a better screen aspect ratio).
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Well, do you have a budget in mind? Although the Samsung Ativ S is a good phone, they lack of any particular support from Samsung is damning. As a result, as of now, if you really want a high end Windows Phone which will also get supported from the maker, then that has to be the Lumia 920 (although it doesn't have a card slot). The other option would be to get hold of the Lumia 720 (incredibly sleek as well as having a card slot), though not really high end, but in many opinions, better than the Lumia 820 (which does have a better screen aspect ratio).
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The OS support mainly comes from Microsoft may be Nokia has some more features but all OS updates come from Microsoft for all the devices AFAIK
DynamicRam said:
The OS support mainly comes from Microsoft may be Nokia has some more features but all OS updates come from Microsoft for all the devices AFAIK
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Yes that is true. MSFT will send out the updates and they do sport the same features, but what I meant was by the way of differentiation. Nokia with its various apps (especially Here Maps and Here Drive) amongst other stellar apps is really making a difference to the ecosystem. They regularly update their apps, as well as sporting many games and apps which are Nokia exclusive. Just look at the recently announced Hipstamatic app. It will first come to Nokia for an exclusive period.
All I meant to say was, by and far, Nokia is the only phone developer who is taking the ecosystem seriously and furthering its development.
Currently the Ativ S is the only top-tier WP8 phone with an SD card slot, but it is nigh impossible to get in the states, and I'm not even sure what carriers whould support it. Plus, WP8 is an afterthought to Samsung, so don't expect much in the way of support for the phone.
Nokia is a fantastic company, makes great phones and absolutely supports them beyond what any other cell phone company does. Their flagship phones (i.e. the 920 and variants) are unsurpassed, but they lack SD card support.
The highest end Lumia with SD card support is the 820/822, which is flagship minus the camera and big, high-res screen. Performance is at least as good as the 920 series and better than any Android phone.
The 8X is also an excellent phone, not quite up to par with the 920s but still extremely good. It lacks SD card support and the app support Nokia provides, but is more svelte and "fashionable" if you will.
There are two variants of the Ativ S. The SGH-T899M can be imported from Canada (easily and not particularly expensively), pre-SIM-unlocked and with no external (and very minimal internal; you have to go look for it) carrier branding. It works flawlessly on T-Mobile's bands (including their LTE). It will also work on AT&T, not quite as well (not all of AT&T's LTE bands are supported, I think, but some places are) but well enough.
The Nokia 92x line is definitely the "best" aside from the lack of expandable/removable storage. They have the highest-resolution displays, the most internal storage, the best cameras, and the best apps.
If you like swype keyboards, you'll miss them. Otherwise, the only real nitpick I have is haptic feedback not able to be disabled on the permakeys (back, win key, etc). I only got a Windows phone for app development though. My galaxy nexus is still my normal phone, even if Android is a bit more laggy and eats more battery.
Samsung phones are able to disable the feedback using an OEM app. Other phones would be capable of it if we can break out of the sandbox (yet another thing we had in WP7 and are missing in WP8, at least in the current state of homebrew).

[Q] Which phone should I get?

Well I'm thinking to get a windows phone8 so will it be okay buying it?? (the nokia lumia 730)
Or should I go with any other android??
TEll me plz!!!!!!
Details of Nokia Lumia 730
You have a nice choice with Lumia 730, it runs on Windows 8.1 OS and 1.2GHz quad-core processor. It is handy with 4.7 inch OLED capacity touchscreen display, Corning Gorilla Glass 3 for protecting the screen and the clear black display. It has 8 GB internal memory with expandable microSD card up to 128 GB and 1 GB RAM. It offers 6.7 MP rear camera with LED flash and 5 MP front camera to capture the beautiful pictures. The battery capacity is also good 2200 mAh for long time talking. The connectivity options are Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and USB. The current price is approx Rs 13,000.
Do you have any requirements? What is important to you in a phone?
For instance, Lumias usually feature great recording hardware (cameras, microphone). You'll get quite better images with a Lumia 830 than e.g. with an iPhone 6, which is way more expensive. Also, they're quite robust IMO: Lumias usually take more hits and drop until they have their display or case broken, compared to most other brands.
Furthermore, WP is easy to use, still works great on mid- and low-end hardware and just looks good.
One argument against WP is the bad support by certain companies: If you know an app on Android you definitely need, check whether it exists for WP too, or if there's an alternative.

Alternatives to the V²

While the V² may end up being an amazing phone, some of us can't wait for it to be released. (If it ever will be.)
This thread is for those who are looking for a phone with similar specs to the V².
Please keep this thread clean. Let's all be kind and respectful of others' opinions. :good:
Cullenator said:
While the V² may end up being an amazing phone, some of us can't wait for it to be released. (If it ever will be.)
This thread is for those who are looking for a phone with similar specs to the V².
Please keep this thread clean. Let's all be kind and respectful of others' opinions. :good:
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I have been looking and looking and looking. There isnt one. This is my dream phone:
- LG G2 sized, so 5.2" with small bezels.
- Removable, high capacity battery (3000mah+)
- Removable storage or affordable 64gb size
- Built in wireless charging
- 3gb+ ram
- Newer SoC
- Good camera with OIS
Thats it. Not asking for the moon. I can find some of those things in huge 5.5" + phones like the G4. I guess I will be getting used to a big phone again.
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This is probably as close as I am going to get if the rumored specs are true: http://www.androidpit.com/nexus-5-2015-price-release-date-specs-features
shaxs said:
I have been looking and looking and looking. There isnt one. This is my dream phone:
- LG G2 sized, so 5.2" with small bezels.
- Removable, high capacity battery (3000mah+)
- Removable storage or affordable 64gb size
- Built in wireless charging
- 3gb+ ram
- Newer SoC
- Good camera with OIS
Thats it. Not asking for the moon. I can find some of those things in huge 5.5" + phones like the G4. I guess I will be getting used to a big phone again.
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This is probably as close as I am going to get if the rumored specs are true: http://www.androidpit.com/nexus-5-2015-price-release-date-specs-features
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I hear ya, dude; I'm hoping the V2 makes it, but I can't wait unfortunately; my S3 is nearly dead. So yeah, we'll see. The G4 looks close, but it's way too big for me. Maybe the new Nexus will be almost as awesome as the proposed V2? We'll see.
Here are the features that made me pre-order the Saygus V². These are in particular order.
5" 1080p sunlight viewable screen. 2.5K resolution is overkill and just eats battery and I don't like phones with screens larger than 5".
Large removable battery.
Small bezels. This means the phone doesn't have a large footprint for it's screen size like the iPhone or Sony Z series.
64gb built in storage.
microSD slot. Dual wasn't important to me but having expandable memory was.
Optical image stabilization. It was nice that both cameras have it but I really wanted it in the main camera.
Waterproof.
Snapdragon 801.
3gb RAM.
The closest thing to this is the upcoming Galaxy S6 Active except the screen size is slightly large for my taste and it has 2.5K resolution. I can live with the built in battery if it's 3500mAh.
I was really hoping that Google would make a new version of the Nexus 5 with basically the same specs as the Nexus 6 except with a 5" 1080p screen. The only drawback to the Nexus series is that we almost definitely won't see one with a microSD card slot. I'm still surprised that Google didn't get someone to build an updated Nexus 5 yet, especially with the launch of Project Fi.
<rant>I wish the Android smartphone manufacturers (i.e. LG, OnePlus, etc) would realize that the majority of people don't want a screen over 5.5" and larger. How do I know this? Because Apple make the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus which have almost the exact same specs except for the screen size and resolution and based on this article 80% of the iPhone 6 models sold are the 4.7" version with the other 20% being the 5.5" version. If customers really wanted a smartphone with a really large screen then they'd be buying the 5.5" iPhone 6 Plus more than the 4.7" iPhone 6.</rant>
I originally was going to buy an S6, against my better judgement, until I found I could not buy a 128GB version, even from the AT&T store. I've considered the S5, but I can't find an unlocked 32GB version that works on 4G. I considered the Note 4, but I really don't want a phablet, and that's a lot of money to spend on a phone I feel I won't like due to its size. Also, it frustrates me that two of the main alternatives to the S6 I considered due to the S6's lack of expandable storage and removable battery are both Samsung's, so even if I did go with one of them, I would still be giving them money. Before any of this, I was looking at the Sony Xperia Z4, until that turned out to be a letdown, and then the Sony Xperia Z3, but again there is no 32GB unlocked version. Despite my hatred of Motorola, I even considered the Droid Turbo/Maxx, until I realized it lacks expandable storage. The G4 looks ok, but it's a bit large for my taste (though supposedly not as bad as other 5.5" phones), I really don't think I'd like the buttons on the back, and there are no real reviews yet of it. Not to mention it irritates me they're releasing two other "G4" versions that are nothing like the G4, but rather are stripped down junk. The Zenphone 2 is big and just seems cheap, which I get it is a cheap phone, but still. The S6 Active may end up being the closest thing to perfect, but I don't know how I'll like the physical buttons, and I think I'd rather it be less bulky so people that want the extra protection can use a case, but leave that up to the individual. I've pre-ordered the Elephone P7000, which looks like a really good phone for the price, but again, no 32GB version. Still, for the price, I can live with that for a few months until something better comes out. So many phones that are almost great, but fall short. I've been searching high and low for the past 2-3 months and it's getting tiresome. I'd love some other ideas, but I doubt anybody can point me to something I don't already know about.
My ideal phone matches up very much the same. If Samsung released a plastic body S4 v2 with more RAM, more built-in storage, updated CPU, 5" 1080p screen with otherwise S6 qualities, UFS 2.0, etc., while retaining the S4 size/weight, removable battery, and SD slot, I'd have little hesitation buying it, even if it cost the same as the S6. Doooosen't look like they're going to do that. A phone's looks don't matter to me, and I actually prefer the plastic body for weight and toughness factors. Doesn't have to be Samsung, but I've had an S4 for two years and having handling many phones, I find it gives the best fit in my hand while having an adequate sized screen of any phone yet.
The Saygus, if it proves to be the real deal, it's actually in the right size range and is loaded with so many features (2x SD is my favorite) that it has no real competition for my needs. As it stands, I'm most likely going to have to hold my nose and get a 128GB S6, which for me has no real competition as Plan B. I have no regrets with my S4 or S2, to me they were clearly the best phones for me on the market at time of purchase. But I want to vote with my wallet against the S6 because the removal of (to me) major features, but I might not have a suitable option. Also, I'm on TMOUS and most of the decent non-carrier devices won't work with their LTE bands and I'd lose WiFi Calling, so it's pretty much between Samsung, LG, Sony, HTC, Alcatel, and Nexus. The S5 and M9 look like the next best options. The Saygus is the only outside phone under consideration at this point.
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The S5 and M9 look like the next best options. The Saygus is the only outside phone under consideration at this point.
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I have the LG G2 and at less than $200 for a new off contract phone it really is hard to beat. I considered the S5 only because it can have wireless charging added fairly easily, but the ROM support for the S5 isnt as good. But if they offered the S5 with 3gb ram, I think I would be in.
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I have the LG G2 and at less than $200 for a new off contract phone it really is hard to beat. I considered the S5 only because it can have wireless charging added fairly easily, but the ROM support for the S5 isnt as good. But if they offered the S5 with 3gb ram, I think I would be in.
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Thanks, the G2 might be the best short-term option. TMo has refurb G2s for $228 & no money down & $9.50/month. It's the other end of the spectrum in price with the S6, amongst phones without SD and removable battery. Only 32GB is a big step down from my S4, but for daily usage it would probably be fine. Having lots of extra storage and batteries is brilliant when needed, like spending the day in an airport and having tons of locally stored music/movie choices, but most of the time as a DD can be lived without. Other negatives: a little larger and heavier, and non-AMOLED screen. On the plus side, it's got a bit better CPU and larger screen size than the S4. And a lot cheaper than the S6, S5, M9. If it had SD and removable battery, it would be a no-brainer.
I broke my S4 screen and replaced it myself with a $6 piece of glass off ebay. It's worked great considering the price, but it's more reflective and the touch input is far from perfect. It's still functional, but annoying, & $9.50/month is pretty light, so I think I'll give that a shot. They have a 15 day trial period, too. In the long run, worst case scenario, I end up with a spare phone / mini WiFi tablet that only cost $228.
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I originally was going to buy an S6, against my better judgement, until I found I could not buy a 128GB version, even from the AT&T store. I've considered the S5, but I can't find an unlocked 32GB version that works on 4G. I considered the Note 4, but I really don't want a phablet, and that's a lot of money to spend on a phone I feel I won't like due to its size. Also, it frustrates me that two of the main alternatives to the S6 I considered due to the S6's lack of expandable storage and removable battery are both Samsung's, so even if I did go with one of them, I would still be giving them money. Before any of this, I was looking at the Sony Xperia Z4, until that turned out to be a letdown, and then the Sony Xperia Z3, but again there is no 32GB unlocked version. Despite my hatred of Motorola, I even considered the Droid Turbo/Maxx, until I realized it lacks expandable storage. The G4 looks ok, but it's a bit large for my taste (though supposedly not as bad as other 5.5" phones), I really don't think I'd like the buttons on the back, and there are no real reviews yet of it. Not to mention it irritates me they're releasing two other "G4" versions that are nothing like the G4, but rather are stripped down junk. The Zenphone 2 is big and just seems cheap, which I get it is a cheap phone, but still. The S6 Active may end up being the closest thing to perfect, but I don't know how I'll like the physical buttons, and I think I'd rather it be less bulky so people that want the extra protection can use a case, but leave that up to the individual. I've pre-ordered the Elephone P7000, which looks like a really good phone for the price, but again, no 32GB version. Still, for the price, I can live with that for a few months until something better comes out. So many phones that are almost great, but fall short. I've been searching high and low for the past 2-3 months and it's getting tiresome. I'd love some other ideas, but I doubt anybody can point me to something I don't already know about.
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I went through a similar decision making process except I never considered getting the Galaxy S6 after they got rid of the microSD slot, reduced the battery capacity and made it built in and didn't make it waterproof. Back in 2014 when the Galaxy S5 was released, I was also waiting for T-Mobile to release the 32gb version (even though it has expandable storage) because I was worried about running into storage issues for apps (because many apps can't be moved to a microSD card with KitKat) but none of the US carriers ever released the Galaxy S5 with 32gb. AFAIK only the international version was released with 32gb storage. Then after I learned that T-Mobile was rolling out LTE on band 12 (700 MHz block A) and the Galaxy S5 didn't support it then I wasn't interested in it anymore. Then I looked at the T-Mobile version of the Sony Xperia Z3 (which supports LTE on band 12) but those huge bezels really bothered me. It's a phone with a 5.2" screen that's almost as big as the Galaxy Note 4 which has a 5.7" screen. I decided to wait for the Xperia Z4 hoping that it would have optical image stabilization but unfortunately it didn't. Most recently I considered the HTC One M9 because it IMHO had the perfect screen size/resolution 5" 1080p, top of the line Snapdragon 810 processor, 32gb storage, microSD card slot, decent size battery but unfortunately no optical image stabilization in the camera. The Elephone P7000 looks interesting for the price but it looks like it's basically an upgraded OnePlus One but a 5.5" screen is just too big for me.
Options
The ZTE Nubia Z9 Mini looks like a very good option for those of you that are running current devices that are a couple of years old, but I don't think it offers enough of an upgrade from my Z3 Compact for me to consider. But, given the expected price and general specs I think this would be a great choice for most people. There is a little bit of me that is tempted to go for this device just to scratch my 'must buy a new phone' itch!
The Nubia Z9 (not Mini or Max, confusing nomenclature!) also looks like a well specced device, but there seems to be uncertainty about whether this has an SD card slot, plus it runs the Snapdragon 810 which seems to be a rather tainted SoC from what I read everywhere.
The Sharp Aquos Xx also looks interesting, 84% screen ratio but again Snapdragon 810 and I've no idea whether Sharp make decent phones or not...
Any options with dual boot phones
For me the main reason to order Saygus V² was the dual boot option, with the possibility to boot from microsd card. Is anyone aware of other smartphones with this feature?
hella356 said:
I actually prefer the plastic body for weight and toughness factors.
I want to vote with my wallet against the S6 because the removal of (to me) major features
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+1 on both counts
lukec36 said:
The ZTE Nubia Z9 Mini looks like a very good option
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Not for me. Non-removable battery, which I would be willing to overlook if all else was good and it had Quick Charge, but it does not (of course, all else being equal, I will always choose the phone with the removable battery, and if I were to buy one without, it would be a temp phone until a different one with a removable battery came out). Also, only 16GB internal memory is NOT enough. 32GB is minimum for me. The ONLY reason I ever got rid of my EVO 4G was because I was constantly getting low memory errors, and I don't want to deal with that again. I don't want to settle for a phone with less than 32GB internal and less than 96GB total memory, even a temporary one. At least the P7000 is very cheap and has otherwise good specs and a removable battery, so the internal memory is the only big sacrifice. Unfortunately, it looks like that one is out, too, and I need to cancel my order, because it doesn't work on AT&T's LTE.
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Thanks for this thread. As much as I can't look away from the train wreck that is Saygus, I really do need to replace my outdated phone and leave the Apple compound and koolaid behind.
You'd think it would be easy to buy a decent phone with a swappable battery and expandable storage.
Zinguy said:
Thanks for this thread. As much as I can't look away from the train wreck that is Saygus, I really do need to replace my outdated phone and leave the Apple compound and koolaid behind.
You'd think it would be easy to buy a decent phone with a swappable battery and expandable storage.
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Yeah that's the crazy part, I still want the V2 because of the features. I'm shocked that more people aren't worried about support after the sale from Saygus though.
Zinguy said:
Thanks for this thread. As much as I can't look away from the train wreck that is Saygus, I really do need to replace my outdated phone and leave the Apple compound and koolaid behind.
You'd think it would be easy to buy a decent phone with a swappable battery and expandable storage.
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The problem is most mainstream manufacturers seem to be heading towards sealed unit phones, and the majority have given up on SD support on flagships. Sony is a noticeable exception but their in life care leaves a lot to be desired - the official Sony phone forums are full of threads on issues that Sony refuses to officially acknowledge.
A lot of the 'cheaper' phones from Chinese manufacturers interest me, but there is always a compromise there. Honor's cheaper phones have non-backlit capacitive buttons. Meizu and Xiaomi seem to shun SD. Elephone seems a little left field. Most Chinese flagships are 5.5 inch.
What we all seem to agree on is that the V2 offered the fewest compromises, and everything else has at least one glaring black mark that we realistically are not able to swallow. Which makes the apparent train wreck of the V2 that much harder to take and ultimately is responsible for the sometime over emotional outbursts by the various pro/anti Saygus camps.
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The ZTE Nubia Z9 Mini looks like a very good option for those of you that are running current devices that are a couple of years old, but I don't think it offers enough of an upgrade from my Z3 Compact for me to consider. But, given the expected price and general specs I think this would be a great choice for most people. There is a little bit of me that is tempted to go for this device just to scratch my 'must buy a new phone' itch!
The Nubia Z9 (not Mini or Max, confusing nomenclature!) also looks like a well specced device, but there seems to be uncertainty about whether this has an SD card slot, plus it runs the Snapdragon 810 which seems to be a rather tainted SoC from what I read everywhere.
The Sharp Aquos Xx also looks interesting, 84% screen ratio but again Snapdragon 810 and I've no idea whether Sharp make decent phones or not...
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Actually the ZTE Nubia Z9 does look pretty amazing. Only issue for me is no wireless charging and the price seems high. The Sharp Aquos Xx doesnt have a speaker. Not sure how I would like that.
This is an interesting alternative I saw on BGR but I doubt it will be available with support for US networks. It's made by a Chinese company called Innos and it has a 5.2-inch 1080p display, a Snapdragon 615 1.8GHz octa-core processor, a 16-megapixel rear-facing camera, a 5-megapixel front-facing camera, 3 GB of RAM, 32GB of storage and Android 5.0 Lollipop. The most interesting thing about it is that has dual batteries with a total capacity of 6000mAh, an internal one that's 2480mAh and an external replaceable one that's 3520mAh. I don't think it has a microSD memory card slot but if someone can read Chinese then the second link will have all the specs. I tried Google translate on the page but it didn't translate much.
http://bgr.com/2015/05/22/best-smartphone-battery-innos-d6000/
http://www.innos.com/yiluo/product.php?lang=cn&class2=168
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This is an interesting alternative I saw on BGR but I doubt it will be available with support for US networks. It's made by a Chinese company called Innos and it has a 5.2-inch 1080p display, a Snapdragon 615 1.8GHz octa-core processor, a 16-megapixel rear-facing camera, a 5-megapixel front-facing camera, 3 GB of RAM, 32GB of storage and Android 5.0 Lollipop. The most interesting thing about it is that has dual batteries with a total capacity of 6000mAh, an internal one that's 2480mAh and an external replaceable one that's 3520mAh. I don't think it has a microSD memory card slot but if someone can read Chinese then the second link will have all the specs. I tried Google translate on the page but it didn't translate much.
http://bgr.com/2015/05/22/best-smartphone-battery-innos-d6000/
http://www.innos.com/yiluo/product.php?lang=cn&class2=168
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Wow that looks really cool!
If someone knows of another phone with a reasonable screen size, removable battery, waterproofing, front facing speakers, expandable storage, a durable body material (i.e. not aluminum, something that doesn't need a case) and a fingerprint reader, I'd like to know about it.
Or at least most of those things.
MikeyMike01 said:
If someone knows of another phone with a reasonable screen size, removable battery, waterproofing, front facing speakers, expandable storage, a durable body material (i.e. not aluminum, something that doesn't need a case) and a fingerprint reader, I'd like to know about it.
Or at least most of those things.
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The Galaxy S5 meets most of your criteria. The only thing it lacks out of those is the front-facing speakers. I know, some people would argue it also doesn't have a "durable body," since it's made out of plastic, but I 100% disagree. My S4 was tough as hell, despite being plastic (and I actually think partly because of it, since plastic flexes and also weighs less, so less impact force when falling). I've thrown it so many times, to the point the case came off and the battery flew out once, and it never so much as got a scratch that I saw. And the only reason I put a case on it was because it was too thin and felt weird in the hand, and the case I used was a very slim one, so it didn't add much to the phone, just a tiny bit of extra thickness and a better grip. As much as I dislike Samsung right now, the S5 would be my next phone if it were available unlocked with 32GB internal memory.

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