I made this thread so users who tested basebands to provide some useful reviews (battery backup, performance, bloatware, etc) for every user who want to know which baseband, new or old, has what he`s looking for or the baseband just came up and it`s new and he wants to know about it.
I tested MBM-XXLQI from Macedonia recently and all I have to say it brings nothing new about battery backup on the contrary it seems worse than DDULP8 from India or XXLQG-ITV from Italy, and in addition it has a lot more bloatware too.
I am going to test the new VSLPA from Argentina(moviestar) to see what it brings new as it has the latest build date and changelist, and I`ll provide a review in a day or two. You are free to do the same as we may have different opinions.
I am using VSLPA from Argentina from 1 day now and I have to say it provides the best battery backup till now, only 1% consumed over the night.
About performance, it`s pretty much like the other firmwares, tough i notice that lag is slightly reduced in this one or it may be placebo effect, don`t know yet.
Go try it yourself and report back to see if you have a different opinion from mine
I take my words back VSLPA is the best build by samsung for our device since they released Jb for us. I rooted, flashed cocore8.2, removed some bloats, instaled no-frills, set pegasusq+sio, powersave and I drained the battery till it shut down. After I let it charge full I powered it up and I couldnt believe my eyes how fast it was and still is, this build is LAG FREE, the dial pad opens in instant just like cyanogenmod. At first I tought that maybe it's just an one time event but not it still does that and is insanely fast, stable, smooth maybe then most of custom too (no offense to any dev). I know it is hard to believe but please try it for yourself and you'll be surprised.
I'll provide the list of bloats removed when I have time if it is of any use
Sry for the way I express myself but english is not my native language
Goodluck and don't think about it just flash it and see for yourself
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I take my words back VSLPA is the best build by samsung for our device since they released Jb for us. I rooted, flashed cocore8.2, removed some bloats, instaled no-frills, set pegasusq+sio, powersave and I drained the battery till it shut down. After I let it charge full I powered it up and I couldnt believe my eyes how fast it was and still is, this build is LAG FREE, the dial pad opens in instant just like cyanogenmod. At first I tought that maybe it's just an one time event but not it still does that and is insanely fast, stable, smooth maybe then most of custom too (no offense to any dev). I know it is hard to believe but please try it for yourself and you'll be surprised.
I'll provide the list of bloats removed when I have time if it is of any use
Sry for the way I express myself but english is not my native language
Goodluck and don't think about it just flash it and see for yourself
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Try clearing RAM and apps in background and then try to open dial pad. I it is in background it opens fast on any previous build.
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Try clearing RAM and apps in background and then try to open dial pad. I it is in background it opens fast on any previous build.
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I did. I tried it after a reboot too and I also it is ok with heaving gaming too. I tried asphalt 8 with interactive+sio and with powersaving and everything was smooth.
If you don't believe me give it a go and try it yourself
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Could anyone provide us with link to VSLPA?
Here: http://samsung-updates.com/details/15624/Galaxy_S_Advance/GT-I9070/UFN/I9070VSLPA.html
R_a_z_v_a_n said:
Here: http://samsung-updates.com/details/15624/Galaxy_S_Advance/GT-I9070/UFN/I9070VSLPA.html
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Yeah, samsung-updates my source too
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7RA13 said:
I take my words back VSLPA is the best build by samsung for our device since they released Jb for us. I rooted, flashed cocore8.2, removed some bloats, instaled no-frills, set pegasusq+sio, powersave and I drained the battery till it shut down. After I let it charge full I powered it up and I couldnt believe my eyes how fast it was and still is, this build is LAG FREE, the dial pad opens in instant just like cyanogenmod. At first I tought that maybe it's just an one time event but not it still does that and is insanely fast, stable, smooth maybe then most of custom too (no offense to any dev). I know it is hard to believe but please try it for yourself and you'll be surprised.
I'll provide the list of bloats removed when I have time if it is of any use
Sry for the way I express myself but english is not my native language
Goodluck and don't think about it just flash it and see for yourself
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I did. I tried it after a reboot too and I also it is ok with heaving gaming too. I tried asphalt 8 with interactive+sio and with powersaving and everything was smooth.
If you don't believe me give it a go and try it yourself
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This is as if you were explaining you saw a ghost.
Are you sure about this? Cause I heard similar things for previous FWs before, even though they all lagged like hell.
And 7 hours ago you were saying the opposite, how's that possible? What exactly fixed it, when it was the same when you first tried it?
Anyways I'm on GB now, got burned once and now I want to be sure if it's really lag free before I upgrade.
in sammobile, some of the firmwares are made for some particular carriers.Is it safe to flash that carrier basrd firmwires??
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in sammobile, some of the firmwares are made for some particular carriers.Is it safe to flash that carrier basrd firmwires??
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If your device is network free(meaning that another carrier sym is working) you can flash any firmware you want for our device with odin. Juat download it from samsung-updates, unrar it, put the tar file in pda section of odin and hi start.
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@TheBeast I told you all the steps I have made. I don't think it's so hard so you can't flash it yourself
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@TheBeast I told you all the steps I have made. I don't think it's so hard so you can't flash it yourself
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Upgrading isn't hard. Downgrading is a pain in the ass.
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This is as if you were explaining you saw a ghost.
Are you sure about this? Cause I heard similar things for previous FWs before, even though they all lagged like hell.
And 7 hours ago you were saying the opposite, how's that possible? What exactly fixed it, when it was the same when you first tried it?
Anyways I'm on GB now, got burned once and now I want to be sure if it's really lag free before I upgrade.
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First of all GB and JB are different in every aspect so you can`t compare one to the other. First time it was just after I flashed it then I did all the things I said ( root, flash cocore kernel, changed governors and I/O etc. ) and after that i used it till it shut down and then while it was turned off I let it full charge, after that i booted into recovery wiped cache and dalvik cache and reboot and that was all.
But you should never expect that JB to be like GB.
If you don`t like stock i suggest you to upgrade from gb to jb then flash CM 10.1 from Team Canjica or if you want stock based Roms try Harshjelly or SamiOS.
Before you do all the things read some guide about how to flash with odin, how to root jb shaan`s guide and some more if needed.
If you do some research before you should not have problems
Goodluck
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Upgrading isn't hard. Downgrading is a pain in the ass.
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Why would you want to downgrade? First read guide about Odin and then go and read Harshjelly thread first then flash his rom and from there on should be easier to learn about governors,I/O schedulers,kernel etc. After you think you have a good knowledge base and you`re still not happy with you`re android you can move on to CyanogenMod 10.1 of Team Canjica(19.10 nightly is the most stable version).
Goodluck
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First of all GB and JB are different in every aspect so you can`t compare one to the other. First time it was just after I flashed it then I did all the things I said ( root, flash cocore kernel, changed governors and I/O etc. ) and after that i used it till it shut down and then while it was turned off I let it full charge, after that i booted into recovery wiped cache and dalvik cache and reboot and that was all.
But you should never expect that JB to be like GB.
If you don`t like stock i suggest you to upgrade from gb to jb then flash CM 10.1 from Team Canjica or if you want stock based Roms try Harshjelly or SamiOS.
Before you do all the things read some guide about how to flash with odin, how to root jb shaan`s guide and some more if needed.
If you do some research before you should not have problems
Goodluck
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Why would you want to downgrade? First read guide about Odin and then go and read Harshjelly thread first then flash his rom and from there on should be easier to learn about governors,I/O schedulers,kernel etc. After you think you have a good knowledge base and you`re still not happy with you`re android you can move on to CyanogenMod 10.1 of Team Canjica(19.10 nightly is the most stable version).
Goodluck
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Thanks, but been there, done that. All I'm saying is that I doubt it's lag free, I did try various firmwares, kernels and stuff but 5 sec delay when opening apps and lag in games, videos, UI is so bad that it's unbearable. That's why I had to downgrade, which is a much complicated process which frankly I don't want to repeat. That's why I want to make sure the new firmware is lag and delay free before I upgrade again.
And I'm pretty sure JB isn't supposed to be that bad, despite the fact that S Advance isn't much of a phone.
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Thanks, but been there, done that. All I'm saying is that I doubt it's lag free, I did try various firmwares, kernels and stuff but 5 sec delay when opening apps and lag in games, videos, UI is so bad that it's unbearable. That's why I had to downgrade, which is a much complicated process which frankly I don't want to repeat. That's why I want to make sure the new firmware is lag and delay free before I upgrade again.
And I'm pretty sure JB isn't supposed to be that bad, despite the fact that S Advance isn't much of a phone.
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In cyanogenmod you wont encounter any kind of lag. So you can flash VSLPA via odin then flash cwm temporary make a backup then root it play with it a day or two and see how it goes and if you dont like it restore from backup then flash cyanogendmod 10.1 and i guarantee that you wont encounter any kind of lag there.
And btw id you want to thank me for any help just hit Thanks button and I`ll know
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I take my words back VSLPA is the best build by samsung for our device since they released Jb for us. I rooted, flashed cocore8.2, removed some bloats, instaled no-frills, set pegasusq+sio, powersave and I drained the battery till it shut down. After I let it charge full I powered it up and I couldnt believe my eyes how fast it was and still is, this build is LAG FREE, the dial pad opens in instant just like cyanogenmod. At first I tought that maybe it's just an one time event but not it still does that and is insanely fast, stable, smooth maybe then most of custom too (no offense to any dev). I know it is hard to believe but please try it for yourself and you'll be surprised.
I'll provide the list of bloats removed when I have time if it is of any use
Sry for the way I express myself but english is not my native language
Goodluck and don't think about it just flash it and see for yourself
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thanks for your detail review! will flash it. But i have a question here, if i have flash VSLPA stock ROM, then i flash a custom ROM built on DDLUP, will that custom ROM run on VSLPA baseband?
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Hi just trying to get a clearer picture here, what would be the best/most stable rom for the OB? What is the most commonly used rom for OB? And does installing another rom screw up stock camera functions cos I do like the stock camera functions and capabilities.....
Thanks
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There's basically three custom roms : NOVArom, PAY's rom and Cyanogenmod rom; and stock 2.2a/b/v/d... and leaked stock 2.3a
So, out of all these, the most stable, most battery friendly, most hard functioning rom with overclocking feature is NOVA rom v8. But only downside is it's froyo.
Now, if you want a highly advanced rom with countless possibilities of customizations; but can handle a few known audio and video bugs, the go for Cyanogenmod nightly.
Personally i am on Cyanogenmod kang by redy2006, and nova kernel. Audio bug is almost negligible for me, but 720p hd recording is not that much good here.
Pick what meets your need..
How much different would froyo on Nova rom be as opposed to stock gb I mean not in bits and bytes but overall user experience...
Cm audio bug what happens exactly? (skip, stutter etc)
Don't really care for 720video tho (hardly capture video but use alot of camera tho)
Basically I just wanna make my device perform at its peak and want it to be speedy and reliably stable (have alot of snap mins where I have to access my tools instantly)
Thanks in advance....
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Oh it just bugs the hell out of me that my device could be much snappier & stable but currently capped and cluttered by useless stuff provided by carrier.... :/
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Well, you can root it and remove a lot of those stock apps. I've removed about 35 apps, and none of those were from my carrier. Makes the phone a bit snappier, but the camera is and has always been rediciolusly slow. from i press the button to the processed image appears, it takes like 30 sec or something, dunno why, using V10e. Haven't tried NOVA or CM yet...
I thought abt doing that, but I've read somewhere that if I delete stock included apps from stock rom it might screw the os (much like if uninstall progs from windows )
Truth?
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Zaihanzainal said:
I thought abt doing that, but I've read somewhere that if I delete stock included apps from stock rom it might screw the os (much like if uninstall progs from windows )
Truth?
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Yeah,some stock apps shouldn't be removed
You can find a thread about removable apps somewhere here
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Zaihanzainal said:
I thought abt doing that, but I've read somewhere that if I delete stock included apps from stock rom it might screw the os (much like if uninstall progs from windows )
Truth?
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Just search this thread or google the .apk you're not sure about first. A whole lot of them that are removable without any consequences You can also delete the attached .odex file...
hulkhaugen said:
Well, you can root it and remove a lot of those stock apps. I've removed about 35 apps, and none of those were from my carrier. Makes the phone a bit snappier, but the camera is and has always been rediciolusly slow. from i press the button to the processed image appears, it takes like 30 sec or something, dunno why, using V10e. Haven't tried NOVA or CM yet...
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Just rooted and for the time being I'm doing what you've done, by simply deleting useless apps and yeah it its loads 'faster' I also installed an sd booster and I think it let's me access my sd files faster too, now I wanna reconfirm, for a beginner user like me is over clocking recommended?
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Best rom for android = CyanogenMod
Undisputed truth.
temasek said:
Best rom for android = CyanogenMod
Undisputed truth.
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best rom for android, yes, best rom for P970 *right now*, not really. CM7 is really promising on LG OB, it just needs some bugs fixed, that's all
temasek said:
Best rom for android = CyanogenMod
Undisputed truth.
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+1 great room
CM is indeed great, but it is still in nightlies.
i prefer a full working stable ROM and thus i use NOVA v8. it is stable even with 1.3 Ghz O/C with my black(i would sugghest NOT to try this...very few of the blacks can actually be stable at 1.3, most of them max out at 1.2,1.25 Ghz)...the conclusion is u can stay stock(almost) but with various tweaks which will get the best out of your black...
but what is good for you is for u to decide. like, few days ago, i thought of getting a total ICS overhaul of my black. so, i installed a CM7 nightly amd tweaked it to my hearts content. ICS wallpapes,ICS theme,animations,Lockscreen,Music,even the ICS outlines SWYPE!!!...used it for a few days, got bored and flashed back the NOVA backup.
try the ROMs available, use it for some days to get a "backup-able" stable image and then switch over from one to another.
i have a CWM backup f NOVA8, stock10g and the CM#20 nightly builds....and each of them are stable,has my applications installed
hope i helped
As soon as CM7 or CM9 for that matter is released as stable, i'll switch to it right away, no matter which official version LG can offer. I'm so jealous of all the cool available mods/themes for CM. For me using them on stock rom, it's a whole lot of work, and will only partially apply. LG roms seems so sensitive to changes as well, probably due to their implementation of OEM bloatware into Android roms. And don't you guys hate all the use of blue/cyan colors all over the menus, windows, buttons etc? It's so butt ugly, especially the speech bubbles in the default sms app...
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As soon as CM7 or CM9 for that matter is released as stable, i'll switch to it right away, no matter which official version LG can offer. I'm so jealous of all the cool available mods/themes for CM. For me using them on stock rom, it's a whole lot of work, and will only partially apply. LG roms seems so sensitive to changes as well, probably due to their implementation of OEM bloatware into Android roms. And don't you guys hate all the use of blue/cyan colors all over the menus, windows, buttons etc? It's so butt ugly, especially the speech bubbles in the default sms app...
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i have most of these craps deleted. feels SOOO childish!!!!...u cannot expect 2 have such colorful and weirdly "girly" kind of UI on such a mature and sleek looking hardware....i even deleted the lg msg,dialer,home,gallery,bla bla bla and went in for a complete GO!(launcher,locker, dialer,contacts,widgets,etc etc) for my black. now i have a "blackish-blue" kind of galactic theme for most of the GO!offerings and my cell looks to be dressed to kill
achyut said:
CM is indeed great, but it is still in nightlies.
i prefer a full working stable ROM and thus i use NOVA v8. it is stable even with 1.3 Ghz O/C with my black(i would sugghest NOT to try this...very few of the blacks can actually be stable at 1.3, most of them max out at 1.2,1.25 Ghz)...the conclusion is u can stay stock(almost) but with various tweaks which will get the best out of your black...
but what is good for you is for u to decide. like, few days ago, i thought of getting a total ICS overhaul of my black. so, i installed a CM7 nightly amd tweaked it to my hearts content. ICS wallpapes,ICS theme,animations,Lockscreen,Music,even the ICS outlines SWYPE!!!...used it for a few days, got bored and flashed back the NOVA backup.
try the ROMs available, use it for some days to get a "backup-able" stable image and then switch over from one to another.
i have a CWM backup f NOVA8, stock10g and the CM#20 nightly builds....and each of them are stable,has my applications installed
hope i helped
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Dude does Nova have any bugs?
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Zaihanzainal said:
Dude does Nova have any bugs?
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might have some minor bugs. i have not found any. actually NOVA ROM is a stock ROM sans LG bloatware and is very stable.
temasek said:
Best rom for android = CyanogenMod
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Yeah but more stable ROM = stock one
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temasek said:
Best rom for android = CyanogenMod
Undisputed truth.
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but there only the nightly builds for ob now right?
achyut said:
might have some minor bugs. i have not found any. actually NOVA ROM is a stock ROM sans LG bloatware and is very stable.
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ahh in that case if ive ald removed most of the lg bloat should function as abt the same as nova rom then? (less the oc/uv feature then)
if thats the case then ill just wait till a stable cm is out for the ob then
So I was wondering how I can get the Jellybean OS to run on my Captivate?
Links or guides or anything would help.
thanks~
JB ROMs
Hi,
in the Development forum you can already find 2 ROMs that are based on JB, namely Slim Bean and Unofficial Cyanogenmod 10. First failed to install for me (rebootet while flashing) [EDIT: I was in fact doing it wrong, works for me now, thanks to b-eock], second had data issues, which can supposedly solved by turning Flight Mode on and off.
CM10V7: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783064
Slim Bean: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1795770
Guides are linked in the posts.
You have to flash it twice -_- dont make him think something is wrong with the rom... It has to do with the new kernel and partition layout.
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You have to flash it twice -_- dont make him think something is wrong with the rom... It has to do with the new kernel and partition layout.
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Well, at least that fails for me, unfortunately I can't yet post in the developer board.
However CM10V7 is kind of working for me. To get mobile data connection I had to turn on Flight Mode and Turn it off again. Unfortunately Wechat (formerly Weixin) stopped working, don't know who is to blame in that matter.
derukun said:
So I was wondering how I can get the Jellybean OS to run on my Captivate?
Links or guides or anything would help.
thanks~
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Ask and you shall receive. Here's my write up and supplement to the instructions on the ROMs' forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800169
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29430481&postcount=5
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You have to flash it twice -_- dont make him think something is wrong with the rom... It has to do with the new kernel and partition layout.
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Also remember to do a wipe the first time you flash and the second time if it reboots during the initial flash. I made that mistake and had major issues. On the first boot everything that tried to load force closed. It was a simple fix though just went in wiped and re-flashed.
that reminds me, is there necessarily a huge benefit to upgrading OS?
or if not jellybean if someone can also point me towards an OS that runs better than gingerbread o:
I haven't tried anything but Slim Bean as far as jelly bean ROMs go but if you are looking for a good stable build I would stay away from jelly bean for the time being. I say that because its a new OS and hasn't had all the bugs worked out yet at least as far as I've read.
There are several ICS ROMs out there that are available. If you look through the development forums you'll find more than you can read through. The few that I've tried have all been better than gingerbread.
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I highly recommend miui v4 . Its pics based and beautiful
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With the EU bug lurking around in the ICS roms, I'd steer clear of ICS on your Cappy until a fix is found, otherwise you risk a potentially permanent nerf of your phone's internal memory. Just sayin'
Getting sick of the ICS battery and kernel issues and have decided to clean out the phone and install everything fresh.
I am currently on an unrooted stock ICS ROM (N7000XXLRK) and understand that I should go back to a GB ROM first then install ICS. I will search on here for a guide on how to do it (links welcome ) but am confused as to which ROM I should use of the many stock ROMs posted on here.
Since I am going to do a clean install, is it worth going back to the XXLRK ROM or is there an improved one which has sorted the battery kernel issues out? Which GB ROM can I safely go back to without confusing things before I reflash ICS?
Is it recommended that anything else is added or flashed while I have the hood up? Unless there is an uber stable custom ROM I want to stay stock, but will want to root it.
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Getting sick of the ICS battery and kernel issues and have decided to clean out the phone and install everything fresh.
I am currently on an unrooted stock ICS ROM (N7000XXLRK) and understand that I should go back to a GB ROM first then install ICS. I will search on here for a guide on how to do it (links welcome ) but am confused as to which ROM I should use of the many stock ROMs posted on here.
Since I am going to do a clean install, is it worth going back to the XXLRK ROM or is there an improved one which has sorted the battery kernel issues out? Which GB ROM can I safely go back to without confusing things before I reflash ICS?
Is it recommended that anything else is added or flashed while I have the hood up? Unless there is an uber stable custom ROM I want to stay stock, but will want to root it.
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Download gb rom.
http://www.hotfile.com/dl/136370893/6d2a726/N7000XXKK3_N7000ODDKK1_INU.zip.html
Then flash it via PCODIN
root it and flash this ics using Mobileodin or pcodin
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817596
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sahilarora2003 said:
Download gb rom.
http://www.hotfile.com/dl/136370893/6d2a726/N7000XXKK3_N7000ODDKK1_INU.zip.html
Then flash it via PCODIN
root it and flash this ics using Mobileodin or pcodin
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Thanks
But which ICS ROM are you referring to?
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sahilarora2003 said:
Download gb rom.
http://www.hotfile.com/dl/136370893/6d2a726/N7000XXKK3_N7000ODDKK1_INU.zip.html
Then flash it via PCODIN
root it and flash this ics using Mobileodin or pcodin
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But which ICS ROM are you referring to?
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Link updated.
Press thanx button if you feel helped.
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jazzdude555 said:
Link updated.
Press thanx button if you feel helped.
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Are these ROMs different to the European ones. I am on the Germany one now and do not want to lose updates etc.
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sahilarora2003 said:
Are these ROMs different to the European ones. I am on the Germany one now and do not want to lose updates etc.
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Then ou can download this ICS version (Open Germany)
http://www.hotfile.com/dl/155490069/c7932d4/N7000XXLPY_N7000OXALPY_DBT.zip.html
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jazzdude555 said:
Then ou can download this ICS version (Open Germany)
http://www.hotfile.com/dl/155490069/c7932d4/N7000XXLPY_N7000OXALPY_DBT.zip.html
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you recommend using a 4.03 version over a 4.04?
Will this still have the kernel problem with deep sleep and excessive battery usage?
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jazzdude555 said:
sahilarora2003 said:
you recommend using a 4.03 version over a 4.04?
Will this still have the kernel problem with deep sleep and excessive battery usage?
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You can also have the latest version Which is LRK base.
http://www.hotfile.com/dl/164510335/d5dc587/N7000XXLRK_N7000DBTLRK_DBT.zip.html
First Downgrade to GB and then upgrade to this ICS Stock ROM.
JUST DON'T EVER WIPE WITH STOCK ICS KERNEL. USE A CUSTOM KERNEL LIKE NOTECORE,SPEEDMOD ETC.
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sahilarora2003 said:
you recommend using a 4.03 version over a 4.04?
Will this still have the kernel problem with deep sleep and excessive battery usage?
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upgrading to the latest ICS kernel doesn't necessarily guarantee that your deep sleep and excessive battery usage woes will go away.... your deep sleep and battery drain issues are subjective and have lots of factors that might contribute to it.
Don't let the notion fool you into thinking that your issues(above) will simply be resolve by simply upgrading to the latest firmware. Because I'll tell you now.. it will not still. (infact there have been people complaining that upgrading to the latest ICS one have increase more their battery drain than ever before), unusual as it may seem... but it has been complained about already.
Just like to let you know that...
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jazzdude555 said:
upgrading to the latest ICS kernel doesn't necessarily guarantee that your deep sleep and excessive battery usage woes will go away.... your deep sleep and battery drain issues are subjective and have lots of factors that might contribute to it.
Don't let the notion fool you into thinking that your issues(above) will simply be resolve by simply upgrading to the latest firmware. Because I'll tell you now.. it will not still. (infact there have been people complaining that upgrading to the latest ICS one have increase more their battery drain than ever before), unusual as it may seem... but it has been complained about already.
Just like to let you know that...
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First thing I am just wondering why this quoting is broked ? looks like something is broken in this thread.
Second thing I didn't advised anyone (not the op) that your issues will be resolved by just doing the things mentioned above. Confused ? Check OP.I am currently on an unrooted stock ICS ROM (N7000XXLRK) and understand that I should go back to a GB ROM first then install ICS. I will search on here for a guide on how to do it (links welcome ) but am confused as to which ROM I should use of the many stock ROMs posted on here.
Third I was just answering him the question he asked in "OP"
Fourth if you are facing deep sleep issues or your device is not going to deep sleep mode then OP can try this..
Turn ON the Airplane Mode.
Switch Off your Phone.
Take the battery OUT for a minute or TWO
Put it back and start your phone.
Wait for everything to load
Turn off the Airplane Mode.
After that you can check the same in CPUSPY
CHEERS
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sahilarora2003 said:
letters_to_cleo said:
First thing I am just wondering why this quoting is broked ? looks like something is broken in this thread.
Second thing I didn't advised anyone (not the op) that your issues will be resolved by just doing the things mentioned above. Confused ? Check OP.I am currently on an unrooted stock ICS ROM (N7000XXLRK) and understand that I should go back to a GB ROM first then install ICS. I will search on here for a guide on how to do it (links welcome ) but am confused as to which ROM I should use of the many stock ROMs posted on here.
Third I was just answering him the question he asked in "OP"
Fourth if you are facing deep sleep issues or your device is not going to deep sleep mode then OP can try this..
Turn ON the Airplane Mode.
Switch Off your Phone.
Take the battery OUT for a minute or TWO
Put it back and start your phone.
Wait for everything to load
Turn off the Airplane Mode.
After that you can check the same in CPUSPY
CHEERS
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Thanks for that.
I have tried the method you describe and also looked at CPUSpy with BBS and on top of that I have the keyboard lockup issue too in Chrome.
It seems that the quality of the phone is completely lower since the ICS updates with it not providing a full day of use on one charge as well as me having to be careful about bleutooth/wifi usage and time that I use the phone to surf. Quite ridiculous really and I haven't had to use a smartphone like this since the days of the HTC Diamond.
Before I revert back to GB and be done with it, I want to try an nice clean ICS install and give it one last chance, unless there is a custom ICS ROM you think I should consider.
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Ahoi,
i thing i have a question to this thread.
If i am curently on stock ROM germany open N7000XXLRG_N7000DBTLRG_N7000XXLRB (after rooting, simlock unlocking and unroot)
can i simply try another ROM via PC odin from this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
I wanna just try if the battery will better work. (in the moment 23h 30min of using, display on 4h, deep sleep 18h and battery with 28%)
Thanks.
Bonumy said:
Ahoi,
i thing i have a question to this thread.
If i am curently on stock ROM germany open N7000XXLRG_N7000DBTLRG_N7000XXLRB (after rooting, simlock unlocking and unroot)
can i simply try another ROM via PC odin from this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
I wanna just try if the battery will better work. (in the moment 23h 30min of using, display on 4h, deep sleep 18h and battery with 28%)
Thanks.
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Yes, using pc odin you can flash what you like. If you want good battery, it's worth doing a clean install ie perform data wipe/factory reset to clear any old mess, obviously if you're going onto ics make sure you have a safe kernel before performing any wipes at all.
To be honest though, for ICS you're getting pretty good battery life, I doubt you'll top it except going back to GB.
All the best, let us know how you get on.
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SpyderTracks said:
Yes, using pc odin you can flash what you like. If you want good battery, it's worth doing a clean install ie perform data wipe/factory reset to clear any old mess, obviously if you're going onto ics make sure you have a safe kernel before performing any wipes at all.
To be honest though, for ICS you're getting pretty good battery life, I doubt you'll top it except going back to GB.
All the best, let us know how you get on.
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Yes, I understand that WipeAll is the best way. But this mean, flash safe kernel = root (or can i just flash safe kernel on my stock ICS via PC odin? )
And root ICS = go to GB directly rooted kernel and....etc.
In my old Galaxy Spica I have change kernel or mod (rom) every month but was always just 2.2 froy. So no worry about it.
And still i am reading all thread of all rom in XDA. No rom is perfect. Its working but sometimes some bugs...so i am tired (2 years with Spica) of looking for the best kernel for my note.
Now i want just one normal working with a little good live of battery
btw. What is your live of battery on custom kernel 4.0.3. ? If you say i have pretty good battery i will not it change
Bonumy said:
Yes, I understand that WipeAll is the best way. But this mean, flash safe kernel = root (or can i just flash safe kernel on my stock ICS via PC odin? )
And root ICS = go to GB directly rooted kernel and....etc.
In my old Galaxy Spica I have change kernel or mod (rom) every month but was always just 2.2 froy. So no worry about it.
And still i am reading all thread of all rom in XDA. No rom is perfect. Its working but sometimes some bugs...so i am tired (2 years with Spica) of looking for the best kernel for my note.
Now i want just one normal working with a little good live of battery
btw. What is your live of battery on custom kernel 4.0.3. ? If you say i have pretty good battery i will not it change
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Firstly battery: ics swallows a lot more juice than gb, so what you're getting is pretty good. I'm currently on paranoid android jb beta 1.4 with Beastmode kernel and getting roughly 8 hours with 4 hours screen on. I use it a lot! When I was on pure ics 4.03 I was getting around the same.
Roms and kernels: if you flash an already rooted gb, you can do so now with pc odin and it will automatically root. When you've done that, check to see if cwm is installed as it may be part of the package in which case your good to go, if not just flash a Chainfire kernel. Then you have cwm recovery (vol up, home and power) and flash this rom package which includes a safe kernel.
Hope that makes sense.
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jazzdude555 said:
sahilarora2003 said:
Thanks for that.
I have tried the method you describe and also looked at CPUSpy with BBS and on top of that I have the keyboard lockup issue too in Chrome.
It seems that the quality of the phone is completely lower since the ICS updates with it not providing a full day of use on one charge as well as me having to be careful about bleutooth/wifi usage and time that I use the phone to surf. Quite ridiculous really and I haven't had to use a smartphone like this since the days of the HTC Diamond.
Before I revert back to GB and be done with it, I want to try an nice clean ICS install and give it one last chance, unless there is a custom ICS ROM you think I should consider.
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You can try Cleanote v5 here===> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716088
Epsilon Project here ===> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1836201
RocketRom here ===> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1654838
Criskelo's here ====> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1609252
Install which tastes you better
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jazzdude555 said:
You can try Cleanote v5 here===> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716088
Epsilon Project here ===> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1836201
RocketRom here ===> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1654838
Criskelo's here ====> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1609252
Install which tastes you better
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I presume these ROMs have their kernels built in.
Would you thus recommend one of these custom ROMs for my requirements over say stock ICS with perhaps a different kernel? I am not really looking for lots of features as I would like to build up the apps on my own, ie shut out bloatware. I would like it to be stable and have at least 15 hours of battery life with 3-4 hours screen time, which is what I enjoyed with GB. How do you think CM9 fits in with your selection?
Last flashing I did was on a Dell Streak which was easy as there was only DJ Steve at the time, Seems with the Note I am starting again from scratch, completely different flash process and loads of ROMs. Sort of blinded by it all to be honest
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jazzdude555 said:
sahilarora2003 said:
I presume these ROMs have their kernels built in.
Would you thus recommend one of these custom ROMs for my requirements over say stock ICS with perhaps a different kernel? I am not really looking for lots of features as I would like to build up the apps on my own, ie shut out bloatware. I would like it to be stable and have at least 15 hours of battery life with 3-4 hours screen time, which is what I enjoyed with GB. How do you think CM9 fits in with your selection?
Last flashing I did was on a Dell Streak which was easy as there was only DJ Steve at the time, Seems with the Note I am starting again from scratch, completely different flash process and loads of ROMs. Sort of blinded by it all to be honest
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All these roms have great performance with long battery life. BTW i am on pa 0.5 now.
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jazzdude555 said:
All these roms have great performance with long battery life. BTW i am on pa 0.5 now.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
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Paranoid looks very interesting.
Is it recommended that I try it or is it too unstable and thus I should I stick to the other listed Roms?
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letters_to_cleo said:
First thing I am just wondering why this quoting is broked ? looks like something is broken in this thread.
Second thing I didn't advised anyone (not the op) that your issues will be resolved by just doing the things mentioned above. Confused ? Check OP.I am currently on an unrooted stock ICS ROM (N7000XXLRK) and understand that I should go back to a GB ROM first then install ICS. I will search on here for a guide on how to do it (links welcome ) but am confused as to which ROM I should use of the many stock ROMs posted on here.
Third I was just answering him the question he asked in "OP"
Fourth if you are facing deep sleep issues or your device is not going to deep sleep mode then OP can try this..
Turn ON the Airplane Mode.
Switch Off your Phone.
Take the battery OUT for a minute or TWO
Put it back and start your phone.
Wait for everything to load
Turn off the Airplane Mode.
After that you can check the same in CPUSPY
CHEERS
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After turn on the airplane mode
Unselect all sound feature.....
Hi....
Inviato dal mio GT-N7000 con Tapatalk 2
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Hi guys. I'm using cm mods for like 2 years. But it seems that it's getting slower and slower. I guess the new apps need more ram or something. Is there any way I can make my i9000 faster? Should I go back to gingerbread? Or any rom you can suggest for faster use?
It's really annoying to use the phone lately. Always lag.
TaLeNDiL said:
Hi guys. I'm using cm mods for like 2 years. But it seems that it's getting slower and slower. I guess the new apps need more ram or something. Is there any way I can make my i9000 faster? Should I go back to gingerbread? Or any rom you can suggest for faster use?
It's really annoying to use the phone lately. Always lag.
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this is normal if you're on JB , try wipe dalvik-cache and use greenify
Its the rom. Greenify will help but my suggestion is to flash a new rom try gamerzrom no slownes nothing just speed
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TaLeNDiL said:
Hi guys. I'm using cm mods for like 2 years. But it seems that it's getting slower and slower. I guess the new apps need more ram or something. Is there any way I can make my i9000 faster? Should I go back to gingerbread? Or any rom you can suggest for faster use?
It's really annoying to use the phone lately. Always lag.
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For my phone helped me wipe cache/dalvik cache/fix permissions and factory reset... After these wipes my rom runs fast and smooth but after 2-3 months I need to do it again because the phone getting slower again Try it if you want I hope this can help you
I just use CM7.2 stable and no lag plus I can use chainfire3D in some games which gives them an extra boost... not sure if chainfire3D is compatible with any other version
I am using GamerzROM and the Fly-On Script and I can tell that it's super smooth. I also ticked GPU Rendering in Developer options, it seems to me that it makes scrolling so much smoother and basically everything is working fast.
Thanks for recommends. I installed gamerzrom and it's really good. I mean it's like i bought a new phone. I hope it won't do lag again after a week or so. If it will, then I'll try to add fly-on script I guess.
What is the difference between gamerzrom and CM???
TaLeNDiL said:
Thanks for recommends. I installed gamerzrom and it's really good. I mean it's like i bought a new phone. I hope it won't do lag again after a week or so. If it will, then I'll try to add fly-on script I guess.
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Try greenify and Mackay kernel
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freakymod2120 said:
What is the difference between gamerzrom and CM???
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Basically nothing. It's a rom with a modification of stock cm I guess. But very fast (compare to stock cm).
WARNING -- you may try this on Jelly bean only, as ICS and HC are not protected and might lead to BRICK bug
Hey All
I noticed that after we made a factory reset our device is extremely fluid fast and smooth
but after couple of days it starts to lag, and continue to lag more and more.
I found that the problem is Storage performance is decreasing overtime due to not wiping and trimming the blocks that we don't use.
This is a famous problem and discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971852#fm
even google fixed it on Android 4.3
Just try this application and tell me, how did you find you device state now?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix&hl=en
and you can benchmark it before and after
Thanks all
WARNING -- BRICK-BUG
OP, for certain devices, the app developer has stated BrickBug means DEATH of your device if you try LagFix!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37029420&postcount=122#fm
There maybe users with SGT 7.7 models still running stock HC/ICS kernel (edit: unpatched) and recovery, so potentially at risk.
Cheers,
UITA
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Anyone try this yet with the 7.7?
UpInTheAir said:
WARNING -- BRICK-BUG
OP, for certain devices, the app developer has stated BrickBug means DEATH of your device if you try LagFix!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37029420&postcount=122#fm
There maybe users with SGT 7.7 models still running stock HC/ICS kernel (edit: unpatched) and recovery, so potentially at risk.
Cheers,
UITA
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I'm running Jelly bean now, I didn't faced any bricks
do you think it might happen for me too? should i remove the thread?
and why trimming an unused block in memory will lead to brick bug?
bassem.mohsen said:
I'm running Jelly bean now, I didn't faced any bricks
do you think it might happen for me too? should i remove the thread?
and why trimming an unused block in memory will lead to brick bug?
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As far as I'm aware, JB is not faced with the brick bug. I was warning about previous Android versions. Have a read of the XDA thread I linked, can explain things better than I ever could.
No, I think this thread is ok, but maybe make reference to JB only in thread title etc and possible brick warning if used with other.
Edit: I see you put a warning in OP, thanks.
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bassem.mohsen said:
I'm running Jelly bean now, I didn't faced any bricks
do you think it might happen for me too? should i remove the thread?
and why trimming an unused block in memory will lead to brick bug?
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I am using PA 3.68 on a P6800 - Laxfix will not run - states device not supported for /system /data /cache. this is to bad as looks like could be a helpful feature.thanks for sharing and hope it works for others. I go back to the referenced thread and see if I need to make some other adjustments.:fingers-crossed:
ColBill said:
I am using PA 3.68 on a P6800 - Laxfix will not run - states device not supported for /system /data /cache. this is to bad as looks like could be a helpful feature.thanks for sharing and hope it works for others. I go back to the referenced thread and see if I need to make some other adjustments.:fingers-crossed:
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for real, and i tried it several time, it restores the speed of the device to the day i made factory reset.
it's not placebo and i benchmarked before and after, and the topic above also shows benchmarking.
and even reviews of Android 4.3 talks about trimming and how he removed sluggish from N7 first Generation.
Anyone with JB are welcome to try it.
I miss PA android BTW and the feel of nexus on my device
when Android 4.3 based ROMS are out, I will flash it.
Does not work. Do we have to be rooted?
vbx said:
Does not work. Do we have to be rooted?
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yes, the application access the system, data, cache partitions to tell the memory that this block is empty now, don't exert effort in maintaining it.
so you to be rooted yes, and on JB for Safety.
Doesn't work
Im on stock ICS 4.0.4 XXLQ2, rooted, with custom EZYKernel XXLQ1, no brick bug.
LagFix doesn't work because
fstrim: FSTRIM: Operation not supported on transport endpoint
I tried it with /system /data and /cache with no luck.
Sirius-3R said:
Im on stock ICS 4.0.4 XXLQ2, rooted, with custom EZYKernel XXLQ1, no brick bug.
LagFix doesn't work because
fstrim: FSTRIM: Operation not supported on transport endpoint
I tried it with /system /data and /cache with no luck.
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My friend, you have "b**ls of steel" (if you're a guy). I'm not entirely sure his kernel is entirely safe. In addition to removing the "mmc cap erase", there needs to have a patch applied as well.
https://github.com/UpInTheAir/P681...mit/dfc97a2ed8c9f6b886de1cced2e35a2fd1cdeb91
https://github.com/UpInTheAir/P681...mit/f9d69ae2246571f4cd80337711953acab2d63092
From what I remember,... the brick bug known to occur with unpatched kernel and stock recovery with HC or ICS firmware.
Even with my patched kernel, not sure exactly if it'll be 100% OK....
Edit: just worked up the courage to test with my "protected" SkyHigh kernel v2.9.1, and as thought, app does not work
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works good for erobot..
ive been on 2.3 with multiwindow mod and for some reason its been laggy lately.This app works good and faster now.was going to flash back to stock JB kernal again but now looks like this has fixed it..
UpInTheAir said:
My friend, you have "b**ls of steel" (if you're a guy). I'm not entirely sure his kernel is entirely safe. In addition to removing the "mmc cap erase", there needs to have a patch applied as well.
https://github.com/UpInTheAir/P681...mit/dfc97a2ed8c9f6b886de1cced2e35a2fd1cdeb91
https://github.com/UpInTheAir/P681...mit/f9d69ae2246571f4cd80337711953acab2d63092
From what I remember,... the brick bug known to occur with unpatched kernel and stock recovery with HC or ICS firmware.
Even with my patched kernel, not sure exactly if it'll be 100% OK....
Edit: just worked up the courage to test with my "protected" SkyHigh kernel v2.9.1, and as thought, app does not work
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Yes I am male with b**ls of steel and i raped my P6800 many times. I know what I am doing and i'm familiar with my hard and software.
If your Kernel is avaliable with 3G Support, I'll give it a try. My P6800 is my every day Phone/Multimedia device and act also as a laptop replacement, with native Debian on it.
If I wreck it, it was my failure and I didn't cry for my mom
I must say, I tried your app for fun because I don't have any lags on my device. I have no need for "Project Butter", I use ADW Launcher ex, 268 Apps for IT Administration, Produktivity, Games, Multimedia. If I feel an app opens slowly it's time for "fschk" the Partitions. After that everything works fast and smooth as before.
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Arobase40 said:
Have you ever been touched by the "brickbug" with stock recovery or kernel/ROM from Samsung with your P6810 ???
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Not this again..... :beer:
BTW: I've never actually factory reset etc using the stock recovery, and suppose never going to get the chance .The app developer also made reference to various bricks using his app caused by brick-bug affected devices.
Samsung themselves have signed off the patch (amongst others), so good enough for me. Just a shame that I don't have the option of using this app (safely) unless I use daniels custom JB ROM.
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I've had this program on my P6800 for some time now. It has been a blessing, and even upgraded to the Pro version.
It certainly feels snappy like Jelly Bean was just installed. I've set it to do a trim once a week.
Using JB 4.1.2
Sirius-3R said:
Yes I am male with b**ls of steel and i raped my P6800 many times. I know what I am doing and i'm familiar with my hard and software.
If your Kernel is avaliable with 3G Support, I'll give it a try. My P6800 is my every day Phone/Multimedia device and act also as a laptop replacement, with native Debian on it.
If I wreck it, it was my failure and I didn't cry for my mom
I must say, I tried your app for fun because I don't have any lags on my device. I have no need for "Project Butter", I use ADW Launcher ex, 268 Apps for IT Administration, Produktivity, Games, Multimedia. If I feel an app opens slowly it's time for "fschk" the Partitions. After that everything works fast and smooth as before.
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OT:
How are you running native Debian on P6800? Could you post a simple guide how to do it?
coltsmild said:
I've had this program on my P6800 for some time now. It has been a blessing, and even upgraded to the Pro version.
It certainly feels snappy like Jelly Bean was just installed. I've set it to do a trim once a week.
Using JB 4.1.2
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Android 4.3 do it everyday with the following event:
device is left without activity for one hour
device is charged within 30 - 80 perecent
24 hour from last trim have passed.
its safe if i use this on ur kernel UITA? v 3.3.0 JB
B4R7H said:
its safe if i use this on ur kernel UITA? v 3.3.0 JB
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SkyHigh kernel for P6800 is built from official JB MD3 source, and because i don't have JB, I can only assume that it is OK and chips aren't affected.
There is a app by dev Chainfire to test and be sure.
[05.09.2012] Got Brickbug ? v1.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1693704
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Arobase40 said:
Tell me if I'm wrong but I think B4R7H's real question was : can he use lagfix (fstrim) with your Skyhigh new kernel version ???
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Please read my reply more carefully....
But you forgot the most important thing he was asking (or wanting to know), can he use it SAFELY ?
I said "'..... I assume that is it OK".....
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