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tilt totally dead, cannot recharge, cannot turn on, help.

hi, new member here.
bought my tilt on 10/4/07. has been flawless since that time.
used the nav quite a bit during a road trip, used a cig lighter usb charger.
got home and my battery was at roughly 40%.
put it on the charger at night went to sleep. in morning disconnected it at 8 am. shortly after i arrived at work i got the critical battery low chime. checked and it had like 7% battery life.
figured i didnt plug it in right, or it got knocked loose some how and didnt get charged.
put it in flight mode to minimize battery usage. left work at 2 30 pm (4% battery life) and put it on the car charger. got home and put it on the HTC supplied wall charger. light turned amber, so i assumed it was charging.
checked an hour later and turned phone on, it said 0%, and immediately died. left it on the charger for a few hours and the light was still amber, turned it back on and again 0% and phone immediately died and did a soft reset on its own. i turned the phone off and left it on the ac charger, took out the sim card and put it in an old blackberry to use while the battery was charging.
its been on the ac wall charger for the last several hours, i checked and the phone is totally dead, cannot turn it on, and the LED at the top is now RED.
what is the problem here? why wont this thing charge?
thanks in advance, i have alot of critical info on this device and any help would be greatly appreciated.
i cannot hard reset because i cannot turn the flippign thing on....

Does it charge when you connect it to your computer? If it does, then your charger is toast. If not, then it's probably the phone itself.

I'd try a different charger first. If that makes no difference then a different battery. If that still does not make any difference then time to exchange it.

Lidberg said:
Does it charge when you connect it to your computer? If it does, then your charger is toast. If not, then it's probably the phone itself.
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connected to either the computer or the wall charger, the LED thats normally amber when charging, and green when charged, remains red.

I had something very similar happen to my wizard.
And as weird as it sounds, the only fix was to charge the battery in a friends wizard on his charger. I'd check the battery if possible.

Could be the battery. Know any place or anyone that will let you try a charged battery? If not, you might have to go in to an AT&T store.

i think i got it working. did some reading/browsing...
took a usb wire and cut the mini usb head off. dissected it and found the the red and black charging wires. took out the battery and held the leads to teh battery while the other end was plugged into a USB/AC adapter wall charger from a old blackberry. after manually charging the battery for several minutes, i put the battery back in the phone and the phone started up. now it seems to be charging off the wall charger and the led is now amber from red.
thanks for all your help/suggestions.

well it worked briefly. the amber light has gone back to red and it seems that the battery is not charging.
dont know what happened to my perfectly functioning phone.

tiltyoself said:
well it worked briefly. the amber light has gone back to red and it seems that the battery is not charging.
dont know what happened to my perfectly functioning phone.
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Repeat this proceedure but this time do not turn the phone on, just plug it in to the wall charger once you have zapped the battery again.
Turning your phone on probably just caused the already recovering battery to die whiles it is trying to take on a charge.
It is mentioned quite a lot on the boards that Li-Ion Batteries do not like being over disscharged and there is usually a little protection circuit in the battery to provent complete disscharging although this circuit may be on board the phone. Completely disscharging a Li-Ion cell will kill it stone dead and it will need replacing.
When you took the battery out and so called jump started it with your flying leads, this possibly reset the little protection circuit in the battery so it can now take on a charge. I feel that once you turned on the phone, this was to much for the already depleted cell to take and possibly re-tripped its inbuilt circuit.
If you do manage to recover you cell, in future it is good practice not to let the battery go below about 25%. Li-ion cells are generally happy being top off regularly.
I hope this helps buddy
Do let us know!
Cheers
C.

thanks, that was very helpful.
ive tried defibrillating this battery out of the dead several more times to no avail.
ill try it one more time when i get home from work, if its a no go i will go to teh att core store. the phone is 6 weeks old, dont know what they can do for me if the battery is toast...

That Sucks! I hope they'll give you a new battery.
tiltyoself said:
thanks, that was very helpful.
ive tried defibrillating this battery out of the dead several more times to no avail.
ill try it one more time when i get home from work, if its a no go i will go to teh att core store. the phone is 6 weeks old, dont know what they can do for me if the battery is toast...
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I had exactly the same problem with my battery. It came on though after a day. Although the battery life after this happened went down to 10hrs max on standby. I sent the phone back and got a new one and now all is fine.

This is a problem that affects almost all makes of phone. There are three (main) causes of the problem:
1.
The battery charge drops too low to allow the charging circuit to recognise a battery is even in place (red no charge light stays lit)
possible solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...22&postcount=6
(in the end very similar in the end to the USB wire used in post above)
2.
A faulty battery (but if you can charge it using a cut usb cable or using a couple of AA batteries this may not be a faulty battery.
3.
A faulty charger OR a charger not delivering 5v at 1000mA as the OEM one does. Many chargers that are used for other phones or generic chargers only deliver 500mA. This is not enough when your battery drops very low. (these chargers are OK for occasional use but I do not advise using them regularly particularly if the no-charge syndrome has shown itself)
4.
A faulty USB connection on the phone. I have now seen a couple of reports where the fine wire connections in the phones USB port have become bent out of place.
Number 4 above is at least possible for the OP as it seems the battery will charge using a cut USB cable but not when either the PC USB cable or mains charger is connected. A USB port on the phone with a a bent internal contact would explain what's happening.
A previous poster was able with a needle or similar to bend the contact back into place.
Mike

i had the same problem with my phone.
put it in the charger overnight and woke up in the morning and couldnt turn on the phone with blinking red light. I don't know if my battery was over-drained though. I went to AT&T and was playing around with their charger and new battery and somehow the so-called dead battery started working again. They changed the SIM card on my phone there and then i haven't been able to use the phone since. I've changed the network to GSM instead of Auto setting under Phone Options which allows us to make calls; but now I can't connect to 3G network.

Charging thru mini usb
My phone started to exhibit similar problems...plugged in but no charging of the battery. I finally realized that my mini usb connection on the phone has been compromised (bent, distorted=not functioning properly) Now I have to prop the mini usb connection up at a slight angle to engage the charge. I think the plastic/metallic connector on the phone is somewhat fragile ...I had similar issues with my hermes.

called customer support.
they are sending me a new phone and battery.
how do i know its not a refurbished one? any clues?

before u send out your defect phone, have u check if your phone's mini-USB connector has bent or misaligned pins?

yeah all the connectors visually are fine.

[Q] touchpad wont charge/stuck!!!

hello everybody!!!
about 2 months ago i modded my buddy's touchpad for him and everything worked fine. well he brought back the tp to me and saying its stuck and it wont work for some reason. also i am not able to charge with any usb cable it keeps saying
"to reliably charge, use the cable and power adapter that came with your device."
i just want to charge this thing up and remove classic nerd ics from it and simply make it stock web OS cause its become too laggy and glitchy for some reason and i dont know why. well to be honest i havent used it much this is feed back from my buddy.
i just need to get this back to web OS in a couple of hours cause he is a truck driver and needs it on the road. please let me know thanks

naifs_br10 said:
hello everybody!!!
about 2 months ago i modded my buddy's touchpad for him and everything worked fine. well he brought back the tp to me and saying its stuck and it wont work for some reason. also i am not able to charge with any usb cable it keeps saying
"to reliably charge, use the cable and power adapter that came with your device."
i just want to charge this thing up and remove classic nerd ics from it and simply make it stock web OS cause its become too laggy and glitchy for some reason and i dont know why. well to be honest i havent used it much this is feed back from my buddy.
i just need to get this back to web OS in a couple of hours cause he is a truck driver and needs it on the road. please let me know thanks
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In WEBOS it will only charge with an original charger just so uou know..... in Android you can charge with most anything but anything less than 2amps and 5.5 volts is just gonna trickle charge
As far as the Android install it probably just needs an update and clean boot but if you took the time to tead you would find that WEBOS DOCTOR is used to wipe android off the Touchpad
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So is the battery dead or are you able to turn it on? The TouchPad needs a certain amount of poswer to charge the device. Thats why the TouchPads original charger has such a big adapter. You chould probably get a slight charge with other chargers but it will take a long time to charge.
As far as android being buggy, I would suggest the same as cdzo72 and just reinstall it. And also like he said, the webOS Doctor will get rid of android. There are also apps in preware, I believe, that remove all traces of android after you uninstall it.

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In WEBOS it will only charge with an original charger just so uou know..... in Android you can charge with most anything but anything less than 2amps and 5.5 volts is just gonna trickle charge
As far as the Android install it probably just needs an update and clean boot but if you took the time to tead you would find that WEBOS DOCTOR is used to wipe android off the Touchpad
Sent from my cm_tenderloin using Tapatalk 2
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So is the battery dead or are you able to turn it on? The TouchPad needs a certain amount of poswer to charge the device. Thats why the TouchPads original charger has such a big adapter. You chould probably get a slight charge with other chargers but it will take a long time to charge.
As far as android being buggy, I would suggest the same as cdzo72 and just reinstall it. And also like he said, the webOS Doctor will get rid of android. There are also apps in preware, I believe, that remove all traces of android after you uninstall it.
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the battery is dead and it wont turn on im trying with orignal hp touchpad charger but there is no power...what to do next ? like its completely black there is no power at all not even a battery sign of charging or anything like that

I'm having the same problem as stated. My battery completely drained. When tried pluggin in it gave me the message "plug in original charger" which I have except for the cable. On the home button I had no chargin light. After a couple of hours I tried turning it on pressing power+home and I got the red battery, then immediately the plug in symbol, then the "plug original charger" message.
Then I decided to plug it to my laptop. The home charging light finally came on stating that it was charging. It's been a couple of hours and I was able to plug it back to the original charger on the wall and the home light continues to show that it is charging. Unfortunately, I've tried to turn it on and I still get the message. I'm going to let it sit for a while to see if it's just not charging fast enough to even power up. I am running CM9. Not planning on going back to WebOS anytime soon. If I get it working, I will let you know.
Oh, if you have the original wall adapter, you can unscrew the actual plug off the adapter by turning it counter clockwise. Then screw it back on. Supposedly that will fix something with the actual wall plug. I don't know if that's what caused mine to actually work again.

If you regularly charge it with a Touchstone charging stand, take it off, and plug it in through the outlet and the cable that came with it, and be sure to try charging in WebOS instead of Android.

[Q] Touchpad will not charge (even in WebOS)

I realize there is a bug in CM9 related to charging.
I was doing this on a friend's touchpad, and it's become un-usable.
It would trickle charge in Android / WebOS when connected to computer, but the Wall charger did nothing at all (regardless if powered off / android or webos).
The wall-charger is the only power supply she wants because she is travelling for a couple months. Computer trickle charge will not do.
I ran ACMEUninstaller to get rid of android, but webOS and wall-charger still isn't doing anything.
The webos + computer is trickle charging still though.
I threw on CM7 in hopes of having that clean something, but something still isn't right.
I uninstalled CM7.
Anyone else experience this?
Right now I only have webos installed, and only the computer trickle charge works.. :/
I am going to try running web doctor in a bit, but I need 25% battery before it'll work. I thought I'd throw up a question in case someone else has a response.

Did you try another power supply? If it charges via a PC connection but not the wall charger I would say you have a bad wall charger, or bad USB cable.

Also try rotating the plug end of the charger and then rotating it back to click into place. Sometimes the charger won't work because it isn't engaged properly.

Similar problem
I think I'm having the same problem. I got my TP yesterday from the woot deal and installed the most current CM9. I noticed today trouble with the charging. I plugged it in overnight and it was at 70% this morning. It charged very slowly plugged into my pc during the day, but this evening I plugged it into the charger for several hours and it's at 48%. I just got this thing, is it possible the charger brick and/or cord is bad already?
Update: well, after trying about 15 combinations of cords and charger bricks I found my HP USB cord is the culprit. Not sure why it lasted less than a day, but oh well I'm glad to see it's charging now.

motolich said:
Update: well, after trying about 15 combinations of cords and charger bricks I found my HP USB cord is the culprit. Not sure why it lasted less than a day, but oh well I'm glad to see it's charging now.
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The HP USB cable is not particularly good quality. .. Mine died after a couple months, many other people have had the same happen too. Though having said that, the replacement cable I got FOC from HP is still alive and well.
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[Answered][Q] AHHHH! I used the wrong wall adapter now my Nook won't charge up!!!!!

I have a rooted Nook HD with cm11 using nightlies (I forget which one. I think it's 2/1/2014). So, I lost my Nook HD wall adapter and started using a different one. This one had the exact same output specs, except it had .7A instead of 1A. Then it started to not acknowledge that it was plugged in and charging. I usually leave it plugged in overnight, so I found an old Nook HD adapter (I had replaced it a few times) with loose hinges on the two prongs. It was at 95% at night, then at 12% the next morning. Later, I was out somewhere and it said the battery was at 1%. I didn't really think much of this because the green (100% charged) charger light was on whenever I plugged it in, and it has said it was at 1% before, and when I plugged it in it usually fixed it and it would display the correct battery percentage. Well, this time it didn't. I guess I had forgot about the incident the last night. I assumed it was at 100% and it would just run down normally until it died even though is said 1%, but then it died quickly. I plugged it in where I was, but I had to go so all I saw a green light on the charging light, but then I had to unplug it. When I plugged it in later at the house it showed green, orange, then turned off. I left it overnight, and plugged it in this morning and it still did the same thing. I left it that way. I just tried plugging it into the computer because I've heard that some devices use different hardware to charge via just USB, but no luck. I plugged it back into the wall. What should I do?
P.S. Before root, and when I first got it (used), I tried charging it when it was off, and it didn't charge. I never tried again. Is this normal, and could it have somehow contributed to the issue?

OK, I know that it had said I posted the above at 4:00pm. I didn't. Can someone please respond?

NMGxda said:
OK, I know that it had said I posted the above at 4:00pm. I didn't. Can someone please respond?
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Not sure what to think about this and guess no one else as well.
I assume with providing less power the electronics can compensate. Obviously, brown outs (for instance) are bad over a period of time but not as quickly as this.
More power is probably much worse.
Just don't think the charger broke the device. If you find the bn wall plug and it still didn't charge then it physically broke probably coincidence or not.
Addition: Assuming you use a smart phone why not use that wall plug? That's all I use. The bn plug is in the box.

Got a new cord and it works! It was on sale for 50% off as well. Guess I broke the cord by usinng the wrong adapter. Anyway the specs are actually something like 5.1V 2A, and the one I used was 5V .7A. Ouch. Thanks anyways!

Completely dead battery

I know that it has been said that "if your touchpad completely dies, you must have the OEM charger to start it back up". At first this seems true. . .However! I would like to report that twice now, when it was completely dead and displaying the "plug in the original charger for reliable charging or die because im a juice nazi", I was able after about 4 hours of just leaving it alone plugged into a 1amp phone charger, to get it to charge up and boot. This may have already been discovered but I couldn't find mention of it. Just wanted to give hope to someone that might have given up on this.

einstein910 said:
I know that it has been said that "if your touchpad completely dies, you must have the OEM charger to start it back up". At first this seems true. . .However! I would like to report that twice now, when it was completely dead and displaying the "plug in the original charger for reliable charging or die because im a juice nazi", I was able after about 4 hours of just leaving it alone plugged into a 1amp phone charger, to get it to charge up and boot. This may have already been discovered but I couldn't find mention of it. Just wanted to give hope to someone that might have given up on this.
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So when you connect 1 amp phone charger, does the TP says to connect the original charger? Even if it says to connect the original charger, and leaving it for 4 hours the TP charged is that right???
My problem is when I connect to cell phone charger, it says to connect original charger.
When I connect original charger, the TP stays at 0% even after connecting the charger overnight. I dont know what is the problem? is it charger, is it battery or is it TP..

atrix4nag said:
So when you connect 1 amp phone charger, does the TP says to connect the original charger? Even if it says to connect the original charger, and leaving it for 4 hours the TP charged is that right???
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Yes.
atrix4nag said:
My problem is when I connect to cell phone charger, it says to connect original charger.
When I connect original charger, the TP stays at 0% even after connecting the charger overnight. I dont know what is the problem? is it charger, is it battery or is it TP..
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The message will be displayed but it is gradually charging in the background. When it gets enough juice, it will start up and charge faster. In your case it sounds like either your port or battery are damaged somehow. Possibly the charging circuitry but that is unlikely. If you don't have an original charger or touchstone, then your options are limited. They aren't very expensive on ebay though. I would let it charge on a good 1 amp charger for a few days and see what happens then. Mine did the "soft brick" crap once where it was completely unresponsive and ran completely dead and i just charged it for 4 days and forgot about it and when i remembered it, it had powered on and booted. TPs are funny devices. Expect anything and report it if you don't mind. Maybe we can get this sorted out.

einstein910 said:
Yes.
The message will be displayed but it is gradually charging in the background. When it gets enough juice, it will start up and charge faster. In your case it sounds like either your port or battery are damaged somehow. Possibly the charging circuitry but that is unlikely. If you don't have an original charger or touchstone, then your options are limited. They aren't very expensive on ebay though. I would let it charge on a good 1 amp charger for a few days and see what happens then. Mine did the "soft brick" crap once where it was completely unresponsive and ran completely dead and i just charged it for 4 days and forgot about it and when i remembered it, it had powered on and booted. TPs are funny devices. Expect anything and report it if you don't mind. Maybe we can get this sorted out.
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Thanks for prompt response..
I have original wall charger, and got a new cable from ebay. So I am hoping its equivalent to original charger. How can I debug if the port or battery is damaged.. any idea?
I left it on charge overnight yesterday. It was at 0, in the morning.. I left it on charge today before coming to office. i am expecting it to be at 0, when I go home.. When its connected to charger, its working normally (with 0 battery), but as soon as i remove from charger, it will shutdown..

Morning, when I was charging,
the battery monitor widget app showing Battery flow as "-600mA". I think this should be +ve while charging. the same app was showing status as "Charging AC plugged". I will try to charge my phone with the same cable and charger, if the phone shows +ve current flow, then, its deffinetly should be problem with the battery or touchpad right..
I wil test it in the evening.. and if its problem with battery or touchpad.. i will try to clean the TP and will try again.. Lets see how it goes

Ok so you have the original charger, great! And it boots into android/webos correct? It sounds like your A6 firmware might have crapped out or whatever it does to cause battery issues. Probably not bad battery if this happened rather suddenly, and its not a bad port if its booting and running while plugged, even if its not charging. . .so go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2756314
and read it carefully! With this tool, you can do some really cool stuff including re-flashing the A6 battery monitor/control chip. It can (but might not) fix issues like this. Give it a try with a good cable and let me know what happens. Good luck!

einstein910 said:
Ok so you have the original charger, great! And it boots into android/webos correct? It sounds like your A6 firmware might have crapped out or whatever it does to cause battery issues. Probably not bad battery if this happened rather suddenly, and its not a bad port if its booting and running while plugged, even if its not charging. . .so go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2756314
and read it carefully! With this tool, you can do some really cool stuff including re-flashing the A6 battery monitor/control chip. It can (but might not) fix issues like this. Give it a try with a good cable and let me know what happens. Good luck!
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I rebooted to webOS, and TP charged normally.. now i updated to CM11, all good as of now.. Thanks for helping me..
only bad part is i disassembled, before booting to webOS

Aw dude....well hey it happens to the best of us lol. Now u know a lot more about ur tablet and i would still recommend reflashing the A6 and removing webos if u dont use it. Tptoolbox can also be "installed" by renaming the boot image .bin file to uImage.TPtoolbox and placing it in /boot on your android partition. This allows moboot to see it. Off topic i know but i thought you might be interested. Best of luck with the re-assembly!

einstein910 said:
Aw dude....well hey it happens to the best of us lol. Now u know a lot more about ur tablet and i would still recommend reflashing the A6 and removing webos if u dont use it. Tptoolbox can also be "installed" by renaming the boot image .bin file to uImage.TPtoolbox and placing it in /boot on your android partition. This allows moboot to see it. Off topic i know but i thought you might be interested. Best of luck with the re-assembly!
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You can only install TPToolbox as described if you have removed WebOS.

shumash said:
You can only install TPToolbox as described if you have removed WebOS.
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why is that?

einstein910 said:
why is that?
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Because there's not enough room for both, and it's designed to run in the WebOS userspace. Don't even try it; I speak from experience.

einstein910 said:
why is that?
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Because the boot folder is not big enough with the webOS uImage.

Fixed my Touchpad!
I had the same issue and just wanted to report what worked for me. My touchpad wasn't responding to any button pressing combos and even after sitting on the charger for two days, didn't want to turn on. After some google searching I found my Touchpad might be so dead that the charging circuity might not want to charge the battery and all the fixes were telling me to take apart the Touchpad and charge the battery directly. That's not something I really wanted to do. Then another person suggested to charge the Touchpad with a lower amp charger, so I plugged the Touchpad into an iPhone charger for about an hour. I came back, held the power button and home button - nothing. Tried power, volume up, and home - nothing. But then I held the power button and hit the home button ~10 times and then... the home button started blinking left and right. YES! I took the Touchpad and put it on the original charger, 15 minutes later it had the Low Battery Screen and another 15 minutes later, Cyanogenmod was booting.

I need help. When I try to transfer the Android files to the HP TouchPad using TPtoolbox, Windows says that there is an F drive that I have to format before I use it. In the tutorials, a drive labeled HP TOUCHPAD or something like that shows in Windows, and you can put the Android files inside of the ttinstall folder. Should I format the drive and if so, what format?

Oh sorry, I posted to the wrong thread.