Hello! I tried to put a custom firmware and battery died. Now the phone does not start. But when using Vol (-) drivers gives me error but the screen is still black. Does anyone know how to fix it. I have to use Linux?
Really? Search, man! If you don't want to follow the rules of XDA get out of here!
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Omario-242 said:
Really? Search, man! If you don't want to follow the rules of XDA get out of here!
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I searched, but nothing works. Can you new ideas.
@Omario: He just wants to cross the road
@nfs: What excatly did you do? have you unlock BL?
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@Omario: He just wants to cross the road
@nfs: What excatly did you do? have you unlock BL?
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If he has problems with drivers and would search for it he would've probably got something like "try other drivers" or "reinstall drivers".
Or at least try kdz flash.
Search for brick and then follow the suggestions given on the outcomes.
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klbterminator said:
@Omario: He just wants to cross the road
@nfs: What excatly did you do? have you unlock BL?
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You don't spend long here and don't contribute to the forum. The first rule of XDA is SEARCH
When you see the same questions being asked every day simply because people are too lazy to bother searching and reading it becomes a little bit tiresome to say the least
Help help help. Help help help. Sell and get iPhone.
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Help help help. Help help help. Sell and get iPhone.
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Help help help. Help help help. Sell and get iPhone.
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lol
The phone just starts apx mode. What can I do?
nfs32100 said:
The phone just starts apx mode. What can I do?
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LMGTFY
Wow this guy is unbelievable
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LMGTFY
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=)) how did you do that? can I use that one *asking for permission dearly with puppy eyes*
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=)) how did you do that? can I use that one *asking for permission dearly with puppy eyes*
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When you get into S / W mode my phone is black screen. But LG Support sees my phone, but when I give Upgrade not working.
Why LG TOOL recognize my phone, and the other programs do not?
nfs32100 said:
When you get into S / W mode my phone is black screen. But LG Support sees my phone, but when I give Upgrade not working.
Why LG TOOL recognize my phone, and the other programs do not?
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Coz LG tools has all seeing eyes like buddha or jesus or allah
Seriously, if you can go into software mode, you must be able to flash kdz unless you have a developer device.
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seriously , in a previous help thread u said its a developer phone. if u have the "not for sale" on the back of the phone , forget it, it wont come back to life so dont keep asking. else u need other drivers for apx. and if the lg support see ur phone then go in C:// where the lg support is and in there u will see the files u need to flash the kdz.
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seriously , in a previous help thread u said its a developer phone. if u have the "not for sale" on the back of the phone , forget it, it wont come back to life so dont keep asking. else u need other drivers for apx. and if the lg support see ur phone then go in C:// where the lg support is and in there u will see the files u need to flash the kdz.
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Its very likely out device makes use of a sbk, which it uses to encrypt all nvflash communication (nvflash is a nvidia protocal for acessing pre-bootloader states, with tegra devices this is done through apx mode.) Without knowing the sbk we have little hope of accessing nvflash via apx. I dont think it would be impossible to use a nexus 7 / asus tablet method to access nvflash but its a seroius undertaking for even the most skilled of developers.
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BOOTLOADER IS OFFICIALLY UNLOCKED.
GO GET IT HERE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2180138
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I think, we've enough f*cking time wasted, it's time to search for devs who'll help us.
I don't have time for now, but soon i'll organize gathering of the money to lucky dev when i get my pc (typing from phone now)
But if You organize it faster than me, sure go ahead, we have to unleash our 4X asap!
In this thread we can eventually check whether anyone would donate and how much.
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count me in! unleash the Fury of 4X!:cyclops:
One question, if there will be this lucky developer, who will?
I don't know for now, we should do a thread in android general section and then someone should be found (i think)
I can donate 20 euro's no problem !!!
Get that thing unlocked
One thing now: where'd be best to collect that money, paypal donation or what?
@edit all is ready to get started, i made the topic in Android General too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33342420
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One thing now: where'd be best to collect that money, paypal donation or what?
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i think most xda dev use paypal ...but unfortunately i cant donate because having prob with my card
nyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyan
I can pay via PayPal, so where/how can we collect the money?
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I will pay 10 euros for an unlocked bootloader.
You could ask xda member wkpark to help he is good at this. He made a lot of good things for lg phones. Boot tool for omap4 phones, unlocked bootloader on su660 (2x korean) ics ........
Here is topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1954903
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15 euro can pay
i will pay $20 via paypal
Are we sure this device has a boot loader?
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All we need is unlocked bootlader, then we can be blessed by Ricardo's CM :laugh:
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you do know this is just a good joke? we could already have that rom if the guy was actually doing something real.
having drivers developed and using existing stock kernels have existed for ages.
the video was fake, and just running a launcher with a settings apk from cm10 and build.prop modified, why would you believe anything else when its been months since we got cwm and the option to install roms?
even i released a bootable cm10 with call function disabled, but thats at least more than a video showing fake presentation with edits all around on a developer phone.
honestly would not use that as an argument to get bootloader unlocked.
its easier to get 2nd-boot to work i guess than having bootloader unlocked, we have already seen that is possible.
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Are we sure this device has a boot loader?
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just look at the name boot loader...
loader -> thats what loads the boot
boot
^
starting up of the phone
JunDavis said:
Are we sure this device has a boot loader?
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yep
Dexter_nlb said:
the video was fake, and just running a launcher with a settings apk from cm10 and build.prop modified, why would you believe anything else when its been months since we got cwm and the option to install roms?
honestly would not use that as an argument to get bootloader unlocked.
its easier to get 2nd-boot to work i guess than having bootloader unlocked, we have already seen that is possible.
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alright, i changed a bit these sentences
@RSAobj yeah, i already have sent him a message about
iodak said:
You could ask xda member wkpark to help he is good at this. He made a lot of good things for lg phones. Boot tool for omap4 phones, unlocked bootloader on su660 (2x korean) ics ........
Here is topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1954903
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Yeah he could probably in some time maybe hack the P880 bootloader indeed. It seems he has done the same on that device that also had a BCT encryption like our device. But then again he will need to have a P880 phone to start hacking it. So the donations should be a lot
well, i got a reply and He gave me the link to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26637229
What do You guys think? (i'm not a dev, lol)
Willing to donate 20 euros, via Bank transfer (IBAN), or via Paypal. In both cases fees paid by the developer who gets the bounty. My offer is timely limited till the end of 2013, after that I most probably will already have sold the phone.
I can chip in $50 just to get this thing unlocked! But will have to wait for 2 weeks for my funds to come in. Just recently got back from a family vacation in San Diego and will be leaving for another trip to Vegas in 3 weeks...so money is pretty tight at the moment. But im definitely willing to chip in $50!
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well, i got a reply and He gave me the link to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26637229
What do You guys think? (i'm not a dev, lol)
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NVflash is worthless with a locked bootloader.
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so here goes,
i have been trying to make a new port based on the RD miui rom, which initially worked out well, with the limits of the Custonexus rom + usb storage sharing which seems incompatible completely for now.
it has been tested , but somehow not lived up to a satisfying degree. the new base is little improved and got the fixes from custonexus rom included to support better handling and enabling/disabling in general (which of course should be perfect now)
anyways, there exists a big drawback on this alpha i will publish, which is it cannot currently use ClockWorkMod to restore to stock or another backup. and i have struggled to solve it, but unable to.
so it comes with a certain degreee of being less perfect, since you need to be experienced in using kdz recovery.
question is, how many would spend time with it, if you cannot use ClockWorkMod to restore (although most should know kdz recovery programs by now) is it worth releasing?
no problem for me..really happy to see u are the only person work hard to make custom rom for LG 4X,,,so no reason for me to buy nexus 4...thanks a lot!!
I love MiUI and I love you Dexter. But i'm affraid the 3G doesn't work in France with Custonexus, or maybe I'm a noob.
Edit : Yes I'm a noob in english too ^^
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no problem,at least for me
Emin3ms said:
I love MiUI and I love you Dexter. But i'm affraid the 3G doesn't work in France with Custonexus, or maybe I'm a noob
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post or read in custonexus thread on solving it with simlock, manual apn etc or ask in that thread and i provide more detail. here it is OT.
nice ,:thumbup:
no problem ,you konw I love it
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it wouldnt be a problem for me dexter, i never restore back and always flash kdz if need to revert back to stock.
youve done quite a few projects recently which i thankyou for, top job mate
I will give it one more try
just do it
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AW: [ROM][PORT][25-1-2013][4.1.2]RD MIUI v0.1 - discussion thread
Same here, think it's no problem to flash kdz file
just do it dex !! for 4X Community ! yeah
i started the upload, but it will take some time, so i can work on the "alpha port development" post in another thread.
Yes release it!!!
I can practically recover using KDZ while driving lol...I actually did it twice already. Flashing on the GO!
babymatteo said:
Yes release it!!!
I can practically recover using KDZ while driving lol...I actually did it twice already. Flashing on the GO!
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WTF !! LOLOLOLOL
Be carefull, if you do it, you'll have 2 possibility
1.You can flash your device
2.You flash your own life :silly:
babymatteo said:
Yes release it!!!
I can practically recover using KDZ while driving lol...I actually did it twice already. Flashing on the GO!
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use hardcore mode LOL
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I disslike MIUI a lot, and the facts you provide dont go in its favour.
I would prefer a bug free custonexus then 3 more buged roms.
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WTF !! LOLOLOLOL
Be carefull, if you do it, you'll have 2 possibility
1.You can flash your device
2.You flash your own life :silly:
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Lol. i know. But i meant, that i can do it without even looking at the phone. Flashing KDZ's is very easy...so easy even a caveman can do it.
Zhus06 said:
I would prefer a bug free custonexus then 3 more buged roms.
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totally agree and why i wondered. but i checked other sections and there exists worse ports than this MiUI.
but i cannot go back on a XX:1 in favour of releasing it, so here it is. Those that dislike the release, can simply skip it.
my secret agenda is that someone sits down and say i can do much better, and release a new 100% working ROM if possible
thankyou dexter once again for more great work,and in response to Zhus06 - because one has an opinion doesnt mean its favoured by everyone, gratitude should give regardless if one person likes or not
friartuckme said:
thankyou dexter once again for more great work,and in response to Zhus06 - because one has an opinion doesnt mean its favoured by everyone, gratitude should give regardless if one person likes or not
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a common developer excuse is simply : we got no chance of compiling a kernel with fixes.
actually in this case it would help MiUI on the vibration fix, since they expect to control vibration with parameters with an updated kernel driver we do not have a chance to fix, so its messes up somehow expecting a newer driver.
and yes, i know there exist appreciation and worth the effort trying to show o4x can actually go all the way, and better if i get my f....
(AND i just got my cm10.1 compile fully sync'd YEAH!!)
Wel, my razr i had a failure so i took it to Movistar and they gave me a new one (it's white model, don't know if that has any changes) and it came with jb already, a firmware i can't find anywhere (weird). The thing is, i can't unlock the bootloader, when i put the ID and i click can my device be unlocked? it says
Your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking
I went to retail br and tried again and still nothing, there's not even root only on jb, i'm afraid to go back ot ics and then try...
Please help guys
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Wel, my razr i had a failure so i took it to Movistar and they gave me a new one (it's white model, don't know if that has any changes) and it came with jb already, a firmware i can't find anywhere (weird). The thing is, i can't unlock the bootloader, when i put the ID and i click can my device be unlocked? it says
Your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking
I went to retail br and tried again and still nothing, there's not even root only on jb, i'm afraid to go back ot ics and then try...
Please help guys
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Sorry man, but there's nothing you can do. And dont try to go to ICS, that wont change a thing.
You juast had the bad luck to get a Razr i without any option to unlock the bootloader.
tatazeuz said:
Sorry man, but there's nothing you can do. And dont try to go to ICS, that wont change a thing.
You juast had the bad luck to get a Razr i without any option to unlock the bootloader.
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Really? Boy that sucks
anerik said:
Really? Boy that sucks
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Yeah, it does.
tatazeuz said:
Yeah, it does.
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Well, what you gonna do about it right? Stock it is
anerik said:
Well, what you gonna do about it right? Stock it is
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Just disable the bloatware, if theres any, and then stock its pretty good. I use stock.
tatazeuz said:
Just disable the bloatware, if theres any, and then stock its pretty good. I use stock.
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Yeah, just rly rly wish i could uninstall stock sms app...
anerik said:
Yeah, just rly rly wish i could uninstall stock sms app...
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Just disable it. It won't show up in the menu or bother you again.
anerik said:
Yeah, just rly rly wish i could uninstall stock sms app...
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Bro, put a screenshot of the firmware you have, maybe its new
Intel device - Razr i Owner
Hit thanks if i help you or you like my style
I had the same problem with mine. Then I just forgot about it. Then about a week ago, I just decided to try again and it worked. You can also call Motorola customer support. Just tell them you're a developer and you need an unlock. They'll transfer you to their technicians and they can help you get it unlocked.
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Marco Lomas said:
Bro, put a screenshot of the firmware you have, maybe its new
Intel device - Razr i Owner
Hit thanks if i help you or you like my style
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Changed it already for retail br
Kov3nant said:
I had the same problem with mine. Then I just forgot about it. Then about a week ago, I just decided to try again and it worked. You can also call Motorola customer support. Just tell them you're a developer and you need an unlock. They'll transfer you to their technicians and they can help you get it unlocked.
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Really? Where is this customer support?
Here: https://motorola-global-portal-de.custhelp.com/app/prod_call/p/30,6720,8593/
Just change your country at the bottom. It wouldn't change from Germany for me.
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I am buggered as well i cant unlock my bootloader this is not good.
jutley said:
I am buggered as well i cant unlock my bootloader this is not good.
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Same error? Must be motorola's web page.
Well, support told me there's nothing they can do. Useless as hell...
Is it essential to unlock bootloader to root and install recovery.
jutley said:
Is it essential to unlock bootloader to root and install recovery.
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Yeah it is. Still getting same error?
Not impressed....
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finally decided to unlock my JB Razr i and then I get greeted with the above message...
grrrr
vimesUK said:
Not impressed....
finally decided to unlock my JB Razr i and then I get greeted with the above message...
grrrr
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Are you guys sure you are not putting extra characters? (user errors?)
Omar-Avelar said:
Are you guys sure you are not putting extra characters? (user errors?)
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Edited post........
If the Moto unlock website stops working then report it to Motto, via their official forums. They will then rapid and fix it.
Hello guys, I decided to post the an easy method to root your Optimus 4X HD! You don't even need to use any command prompt for this, or run any commands. The only problem is that this is chinese language, so you have to click the exact buttons I tell you. At the end of this tutorial, you will have a rooted phone. Until now, no bricked phones have come out of this process! It only takes 5 minutes!
ALL Firmwares are supported.
1. Download this file: MOD EDIT
2. Install the software, using the installation buttons as you would on any other windows installation.
3. When you have installed it, you will see a green button, press it. Then connect your phone on USB debugging mode.
4. When the phone is connected the software will recognise the phone and the green button will show "ROOT", click on it.
5. The phone is going to be rooted in some seconds and the process is finished when it will show a tick on the software.
6. The phone will reboot.
7. When it is rebooted, go to google play and download super su.
8. Open super su and it will ask you to update the binaries, and you must click on update, and then normal.
9. A window in chinese will pop up on the phone, this is the screen that allows you to give root permissions to any app. You must click the button on the right.
10. You are done! Root process is complete!
11. This is the most important step. Leave a thanks! If you liked the tutorial, please show it to me!
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I think there is no need for yet another tutorial of root.
We allready have EASY tutorial for ROOT..cant be easier then this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38875615&postcount=1
Dadovvv said:
I think there is no need for yet another tutorial of root.
We allready have EASY tutorial for ROOT..cant be easier then this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38875615&postcount=1
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You don't have to install ADB tools with my tutorial, just saying.
Anyone tried this? Not sure if i wanna press some random chinese buttons
KongenLars said:
Anyone tried this? Not sure if i wanna press some random chinese buttons
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Trust me it works. I used it on my phone and it worked perfectly, and I can show you other people that also made it work. You don't even have to worry about installing extra stuff and bricking it..
Not many people will try this if it is in Chinese ass well as no screenshots or some proof of the ability of this "tool".
And adfly links aren't allowed either if I'm right but I just leave it to @laufersteppenwolf
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Omario-242 said:
Not many people will try this if it is in Chinese ass well as no screenshots or some proof of the ability of this "tool".
And adfly links aren't allowed either if I'm right but I just leave it to @laufersteppenwolf
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Going to add screenshots now
EDIT:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2376077
Proof that it works.
Witch version of the P880 did you have on your phone, when you tried this?
V20b?
KongenLars said:
Witch version of the P880 did you have on your phone, when you tried this?
V20b?
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All the versions should work, not sure about the version on the P880. When I tried with my P760 it was on the V20 though.
Okey, so I tried this, and a can say that this is working.
I followed instructions, was a bit anxious at first about this, and according to my "Root checker", "Root access is granted"
:good: :cyclops:
If anyone wonders, i'm on V20b
And as the OP said; Takes no more than 5 minutes!
Omario-242 said:
Not many people will try this if it is in Chinese ass well as no screenshots or some proof of the ability of this "tool".
And adfly links aren't allowed either if I'm right but I just leave it to @laufersteppenwolf
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You're right, adf ly is not allowed, goo.gl however is allowed, as it's only a link shortener, not pay-per-click
However, all it does is making the impression there is something to hide, which means less users will click it
aristide1997 said:
All the versions should work, not sure about the version on the P880. When I tried with my P760 it was on the V20 though.
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So this means this is untested?
Thread closed, as this is untested, as well an chinese-only, which can cause problems during the rooting process. Also the way it works is not really clear, as a virus scan should bring up something, but it doesn't... (yes, every rooting kit is some kind of a "virus")
Please help. i some how locked the bootloader after wiping the system image phone wont boot, unlock or go into recovery any help?
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You can try to flash a full stock rom with bootloader and than unlock the bootloader
Don't forget to hit thanks if I helped you...
Every Flash i try says it needs to be unlocked first
juggalo483 said:
Every Flash i try says it needs to be unlocked first
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Use wugfresh toolkit.
mimsiroll said:
Use wugfresh toolkit.
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Tried that first and no help.
Are you on 5.1
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Intub8 said:
Are you on 5.1
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Premium HD app
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Was trying to upgrade to 5.1 when this all started
juggalo483 said:
Was trying to upgrade to 5.1 when this all started
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Sorry man , sounds like you are one of the ones stuck , basically to unlock the bootloader you need to select a toggle in developer options to allow oem unlock, which leaves you in a bad spot because you cant boot into the operating system. Did you lock your bootloader? or did it lock when you flashed 5.1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/relock-bootloader-time-updating-to-5-1-t3053497
juggalo483 said:
Tried that first and no help.
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mimsiroll said:
Use wugfresh toolkit.
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Intub8 said:
Sorry man , sounds like you are one of the ones stuck , basically to unlock the bootloader you need to select a toggle in developer options to allow oem unlock, which leaves you in a bad spot because you cant boot into the operating system. Did you lock your bootloader? or did it lock when you flashed 5.1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/relock-bootloader-time-updating-to-5-1-t3053497
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Just incase your not one of the people in that boat try the force flash in wugfresh, if you haven't already.
Edit, based on your picture you're probably sol sorry.
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6172890?hl=en
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I think this might help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/fix-fix-qhusbbulk-cm12-t3059518
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Erviin Marku said:
I think this might help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/fix-fix-qhusbbulk-cm12-t3059518
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We haven't found anyone with a fully intact but locked bootloader that this has helped yet.
juggalo483 said:
Please help. i some how locked the bootloader after wiping the system image phone wont boot, unlock or go into recovery any help?
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I am exactly in the same situation as you are.
Check this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/fix-fix-qhusbbulk-cm12-t3059518/page16
Read the final 6 pages. Look for similarities. I am the one who can't be succesuful. As I read your situation, it look like the one I am having. While we are still in the bootloader and responds I think there should be a FIX somehow. Just be patient. If you are not in my situation, the probabilities to FIX your phone are very high, I hope you are not in my boat.
Good luck! If I find the solution I'll let you know
sotnasnauj said:
I am exactly in the same situation as you are.
Check this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/fix-fix-qhusbbulk-cm12-t3059518/page16
Read the final 6 pages. Look for similarities. I am the one who can't be succesuful. As I read your situation, it look like the one I am having. While we are still in the bootloader and responds I think there should be a FIX somehow. Just be patient. If you are not in my situation, the probabilities to FIX your phone are very high, I hope you are not in my boat.
Good luck! If I find the solution I'll let you know
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Please stop spreading misinformation
Firstly - that thread is not to force unlock a bootloader. It is to recover from a brick where the bootloader was broken and couldn't be used. The guy from Motorola who provided the fix in that very thread said this will not help unlock a bootloader.
Secondly - there are still no confirmed cases of this working to force unlock a bootloader. 1 guy was not in the same situation as you, so that can be discounted. The other guy hasn't said much. No one else has managed to recover from this. The probability is not very high as you say. It is extremely low.