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Should i buy this phone: g2 vs nexus s

Hello fellow xda members, im visiting from the p500 section, and I'm in the market for a new phone. So i have the choice Between this and the nexus s. Can you all. Demystify the issues I've heard? The hdmi out is really selling me, but people tell me about various issues. So can yall help me?
Thanks!
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well to be honest this device has had a fair share of problems i luckily didnt face any of them from my experience it beats nexus s in all ways, processor camera hdmi speed display built quality, all aspects are better. There are a few thing though u should look before getting this device if u get a used one from the market
1- Put on a black wallpaper or image and see the corners for lcd bleeding
2- Load couple of system apps like camera and stuff see if it looses responsiveness or restarts, finally look closely at lcd if there are dead pixels if it passes those test ill buy the g2x no doubt about it

rukhi said:
well to be honest this device has had a fair share of problems i luckily didnt face any of them from my experience it beats nexus s in all ways, processor camera hdmi speed display built quality, all aspects are better. There are a few thing though u should look before getting this device if u get a used one from the market
1- Put on a black wallpaper or image and see the corners for lcd bleeding
2- Load couple of system apps like camera and stuff see if it looses responsiveness or restarts, finally look closely at lcd if there are dead pixels if it passes those test ill buy the g2x no doubt about it
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Oh, ok. Well I'm getting it new on my provider (wind mobile) so i hopfully won't run into those problems
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Oh, ok. Well I'm getting it new on my provider (wind mobile) so i hopfully won't run into those problems
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welcome m8 to o2x users!!! hope that you will get a good one. even though you get a bad one, you can still exchange it right???

Yes, if i don't use 30 minutes. Is there a problem with quality control? How will i know i got a bad one?
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Yes, if i don't use 30 minutes. Is there a problem with quality control? How will i know i got a bad one?
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usually when you get a bad one, there is problem like BSOD(Suddenly your hp shutdown it self), SOD(Sleep Of Death = when it goes to standby, you cannot turn it on again)
or maybe example like another users the device so hot

joeyxl said:
Yes, if i don't use 30 minutes. Is there a problem with quality control? How will i know i got a bad one?
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O you will know
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Get s2.. ram matters In android
..512 mb is low for high end...
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But with roms, kernels, etc...is this a better device than the nexus s?
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I know this thread is old but...
Just have to say... If you didn't get it, I bet you wish you did Nexus S is first phone after gn to get ics! This phone is the ISH! It is now clear why google chose this phone over the g2- the gpu still beast enough to handle ICS, while none of the other phones (except gs) of the time(not event g2) can compete. I will never buy anything but Nexus.
Nexus FTW!

[Q] For the official ICS user with official car mount

Hello, after the official ICS update for Germany gnote its nothing but problems for me, unstable and slow not impressed at all.
Today I ran into phone app crashing constantly. I'm using Samsung's original Gnote car mount and I have it set landscape view as most of us do. When I got a call while driving I noticed the whole screen went BLACK! couldn't see who was calling and wasn't able to click anything... Few seconds later got a notice saying android phone app had crashed! Wtf.... So I wondered if this only happens in landscape view? What do you know, it was! When the phone is in portrait view phone didn't crash at all...
So I would like to find out if this is just happening to me only? Please if you own a Samsung gnote official carmount and if you have updated your gnote to Samsung's official ICS update (germany) try to make a phone call while your phone is in landscape view.
Please let me know thank you for your time!
Update: I'm sure many of us reported germany samsung this issue but what the hell I did it this morning as well included with video. I hope they release fix soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF1MXXSADCc
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zen0s said:
Hello, after the official ICS update for Germany gnote its nothing but problems for me, unstable and slow not impressed at all.
Today I ran into phone app crashing constantly. I'm using Samsung's original Gnote car mount and I have it set horizontally as most of us do. When I got a call while driving I noticed the whole screen went BLACK! couldn't see who was calling and wasn't able to click anything... Few seconds later got a notice saying android phone app had crashed! Wtf.... So I wondered if this only happens in horizontal mode? What do you know, it was! When the phone is in vertical mode phone didn't crash at all...
So I would like to find out if this is just happening to me only? Please if you own a Samsung gnote official carmount and if you have updated your gnote to Samsung's official ICS update (germany) try to make a phone call while your phone is in horizontal viewing.
Please let me know thank you for your time!
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oh no, i thought it is cos I didnt do factory reset....
and it is actually the phone app problem ...
I will need to downgrade to gb again
please let me know when it is working in the future update

uccoffee said:
oh no, i thought it is cos I didnt do factory reset....
and it is actually the phone app problem ...
I will need to downgrade to gb again
please let me know when it is working in the future update
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Hello, so after the factory reset you were still experiencing the phone app crash? >_< too many bugs... I hope Samsung will release fixes SOON not another half a year of waiting (
I guess waiting game starts again Haha till than no more horizontal view on car dock!
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Hello, so after the factory reset you were still experiencing the phone app crash? >_< too many bugs... I hope Samsung will release fixes SOON not another half a year of waiting (
I guess waiting game starts again Haha till than no more horizontal view on car dock!
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i did a wipe and it is the same, cannot take any call when on the car dock. It just cannot load the phone app when on the car dock.
I m rolling back to gb now. bye bye ICS for now

uccoffee said:
i did a wipe and it is the same, cannot take any call when on the car dock. It just cannot load the phone app when on the car dock.
I m rolling back to gb now. bye bye ICS for now
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Bleh that really sucks.... You tried putting your gnote vertically that worked for me :/ Anyway thanks for the info, saved me from wiping everything!
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keep me update if you find a way that work in landscape when plug into the vehicle dock please.
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mine works fine... i wiped...flashed...wiped and set up and ive not had a glitch... i have mine mounted in my steering wheel on my trans am in landscape.... i ran all of the wires under the dash and up the top of the steering column.... left plenty of slack....
no root just stock...

kawgirlval69 said:
mine works fine... i wiped...flashed...wiped and set up and ive not had a glitch... i have mine mounted in my steering wheel on my trans am in landscape.... i ran all of the wires under the dash and up the top of the steering column.... left plenty of slack....
no root just stock...
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You are using Samsung's original galaxy note car mount? This glitch is only when using Samsung's car mount in landscape view using phone app
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sorry not the samsung car mount... using one i put together...

zen0s said:
You are using Samsung's original galaxy note car mount? This glitch is only when using Samsung's car mount in landscape view using phone app
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Yes, here is from Italy another "unlucky user" with the same problem!!!
German Galaxy Note with stock ICS - German version and original Samsung car mount...
Exactly the same problem, with dark screen and com.android.phone terminated and instability
I made a couple of times re-flash also starting again from GB and updating again to ICS... NOTHING always the same mess.
I spent a lot of hours to be at the same page
The crazy thing is that the issue is only if connecting the chip that powers the phone. I mean that just keeping in horizontal without power supply everything works. When plugging, at that stage it is the voice car mode that creates the trouble! But if you just use the voice interaction without putting in the car mount... everything is working fine again, either in vertical or horizontal positions
The difference I noticed is that the car mode icon appears, and at that stage we are in trouble. I couldn't find any parameter to avoid that plugging the phone in the car mount this car mode is activated, otherwise the bypass would have been easy, given that I do not use the voice commands...

can we report to germany samsung yet? is it officially out in germany?
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uccoffee said:
can we report to germany samsung yet? is it officially out in germany?
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I really wish someone already sent a report? I would love to but i can't speak or write Germany! ;(
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how about take a youtube video and post to them? i have already roll back to gb....
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uccoffee said:
how about take a youtube video and post to them? i have already roll back to gb....
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I just sent Samsung Germany an email with video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF1MXXSADCc), now we all wait :/

no workaround that we might find?
If some expert guy here would know how to prevent any specific software function launch when connecting the power in this car mount accessory.... We would maximise the probabilities that everything works fine as without power supply.
The only issue would be phone calls in vertical mode only.

dengi_it said:
no workaround that we might find?
If some expert guy here would know how to prevent any specific software function launch when connecting the power in this car mount accessory.... We would maximise the probabilities that everything works fine as without power supply.
The only issue would be phone calls in vertical mode only.
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how about using other launcher and phone app?
I have also report to samsung australia, hope the fix it before rolling out the ICS release. The live chat support just said will forward it to the related department.
update: actually australia samsung is not selling the vehicle dock, probably they wont support it at all

uccoffee said:
how about using other launcher and phone app?
I have also report to samsung australia, hope the fix it before rolling out the ICS release. The live chat support just said will forward it to the related department.
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The launcher is bypassed by the car accessory. When connecting power authomatically the system launches the "horizontal car mode" and vocal guidance and I'm sure this state is the one that creates the problem
My perception is that the customer service does not report problems to the HQ, I'm afraid so we should hope they discovered the issue on their own and are studying a fix

depends, i used to report weird bug to htc, but it usually take them 7 months in average to fix it. this is my 1st samsung phone, so i m not aure about samsung procedures.
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I try to disable the car mode but phone app still crash if I rotate the phone to landscape so wack! Samsung don't even test **** out when they release...
By the way I got an email from Samsung Germany,
" thanks for your request.*
We will transfer your request to our specialists and answer you when we get a feedback.*If you got more questions please contact us.*
Kind regrads from Schwalbach*
i. A. Olaf Neumann"
It's not much but at least I got the message across.
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zen0s said:
I try to disable the car mode but phone app still crash if I rotate the phone to landscape so wack! Samsung don't even test **** out when they release...
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The same for me. The fact is that we can disable the voice commands interface, but once connected the supply plug through the car mount, the "car mode" remains on, and as a matter of fact the phone calls come in horizontal
The only way everything is working, in horizantal and inside the car mount, is to not connect the supply/audio connector!
The battery is not charging at that stage of course, the phone calls are in vertical but the navigator and all the other interfaces are working in horizontal
Till when the battery is exhausted... it's working fine
Let's hope for a fix (or a workaround from the XDA community) in a short time
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Here is a possibly great hint!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657814
Given that at the moment I have not got the root on my ICS, could somebody else have a try to this proposal?
It might be a workaround, while waiting for the fix!!

Nexus 7 BAD screen flicker!

With such overwhelming response, I hope to make this OP a brief hub of useful information.
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potentiality said:
Steps to reproduce for ALL tablets.
1. Weak WiFi signal.
2. Backlight dimmed to under 30%.
3. A program that constantly accesses the net. Such as Google Maps.
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Nascar Dog said:
If you have a very strong WiFi signal (All bars lit up) the Nexus 7 will not flicker.
That is why the flicker went away on my Nexus 7 last night. I was sitting in a strong signal location.
When I went upstairs I had a weaker signal and that is when the flicker was noticeable again.
So, that tells me the WiFi chip in the Nexus 7 is a cheap piece of crapolla.
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ToyTinker said:
I think we have a few things going on..
- There is flicker from truly faulty displays (lines of pixels/panels going out, fluttering, etc.)
- There is flicker from Prism or some type of dynamic contrast.
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porkovich said:
Hi all, i can confirm that it's somehow software related. What i mean is not that the hardware is OK, but that software can fix it.
I thought it's somewhat related to the Nvidia Prism Technology inside the tablet, trying to setup the screen and optimizing something. It is related to this in my case. I rooted and used an app on the play store to stop that feature. Now i can tell you that both 4.1.2 and 4.2 are flicker free. Somehow on 4.2 this process is much more aggressive and i think that Prism is on all the time, not only when you are watching videos, even on the homescreen.
PS: ...the Prism Feature optimizes the screen, and it really saves battery...but you have some screen problems.
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Fix mentioned above:
[GUIDE][FIX] Nvidia PRISM/smartdimmer
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The Ultimate Nexus 7 Troubleshooting Guide: 6 Potential Problems and How to Fix Them
howtogeek.com said:
However, many people have also reported disabling Wi-Fi optimization removes the flicker. To do so, open the Settings screen, tap Wi-Fi, tap the menu button, tap Advanced, and uncheck Wi-Fi optimization. Of course, this will also impact battery life.
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[fix] An easy way to solve the screen flicker with just a scotch tape
Pictures are dead but the claim is that scotch tape on the WiFi antenna solves the flicker (some disassembly required). This claim is refuted, but seems to work for many.
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So I was very lucky to be able to go to Google I/O this year (don't hold it against me).
My Nexus 7 flickers horrifically when the brightness is at minimum and Chrome is loading a new page. I'm hoping someone (or a few of you) can reproduce this to make sure I don't have a lemon. If its something correctable by an ota update I'll keep my unit, but if not I only have tomorrow to exchange.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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soccerwuedo5 said:
So I was very lucky to be able to go to Google i/o this year (don't hold it against me).
My Nexus 7 flickers horrifically when the brightness is at minimum and Chrome is loading a new page. I'm hoping someone (or a few of you) can reproduce this to make sure I don't have a lemon. If its something correctable by an ota update I'll keep my unit, but if not I only have tomorrow to exchange.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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Can you take a video? I haven't heard anything like that. If anything it sounds like a hardware problem.
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My wife and son are asleep in the room so I can't do a video. I found another thread about the One X getting an immediate update to cure screen flicker. I'll probably talk to the Googlers about it tomorrow, but I wanted to post a thread to be available for future queries.

It seems to be a common issue with Tegra 3 devices. HTC fixed it pretty promptly so I expect Google/Asus will get it fixed even soon if it does turn out to be a common problem.

This is an issue with Transformer Prime as well, maybe Nvidia still hasn't fixed their drivers. It has come and gone with different firmware updates, most recently it's back again... Seach for "transformer prime screen tearing" for videos of it. Does it look similar to what you saw?

So the connection is the Tegra 3, then. Good to know.
My issue is not like the screen tear. Mine is the entire display flickers like it was backlit by a candle. I'm using Thomas Edison's tablet from the 19th century.
Also, it ONLY happens on page load in Chrome and with brightness below about 10% on the slider. I'll talk to Google today and relay what comes from that.

Why don't you just exchange it?

Sounds like a possibly defective backlighting module... I'd exchange it.
Don

It sounds very similar to the HTC One X issues which were fixed by a software update. It's hard to say without seeing the screen flicker though as there seem to be various screen issues that people refer to as "flicker".

While you are at it, test if USB storage works on your N7

The HTC One X had the same problem.if not worse. Flickered on any brightness level on a grey background.but HTC fixed it so it is a very good chance it is software issue with yours. Give it a few months first?
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Is that really a Software issue? Because i am Order the nexus 7 from germany and think that There is the Support to Google Not good Because of no official release there
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soccerwuedo5 said:
So I was very lucky to be able to go to Google i/o this year (don't hold it against me).
My Nexus 7 flickers horrifically when the brightness is at minimum and Chrome is loading a new page. I'm hoping someone (or a few of you) can reproduce this to make sure I don't have a lemon. If its something correctable by an ota update I'll keep my unit, but if not I only have tomorrow to exchange.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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Mine doesn't flicker

Issues already!! Whhooaa! Lol. Hope they roll out a fix! ;-)
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soccerwuedo5 said:
So the connection is the Tegra 3, then. Good to know.
My issue is not like the screen tear. Mine is the entire display flickers like it was backlit by a candle. I'm using Thomas Edison's tablet from the 19th century.
Also, it ONLY happens on page load in Chrome and with brightness below about 10% on the slider. I'll talk to Google today and relay what comes from that.
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Sounds like some kind of power draw issue. Maybe a ticket with Google is in order.

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Mine doesn't flicker
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So this raises the question: Is it a flaw with his specific N7? Or is it s flaw with all of them? I guess we'll have to wait and see.

so only 1 person out of 6k reported this issue?
lol

I got 2 in a row with the identical issue. They mentioned 2 or 3 other people came for the same issue. But, I'm happy to report that this 3rd one has no issue! Good to go, and loving it.

I think its problem with ICS/Jelly Bean for tablets
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Does your Nexus 7 from google io take an extremely long time for screen rotation? I picked one up at the conference and did not open until today after the event ended. My unit sometimes takes as long as 30 seconds to rotate from landscape to portrait or vice versa.
FYI I have not tweaked or modified this tablet in any way. Just performed the software update after I was prompted to do so after setting it up for the first time.

Post New Features and Bugs that are still present in 4.1.2

So far I've found
Features:
Lock Screen / home screen rotation
One finger expandable notifications
Bugs still present:
Nvidia prism / washed out colors after video bug
Bugs squashed:
boot loader freezing on reboot to recovery
Post yours. Will confirm and update op
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Expanding/Collapsing Notifications With One Finger
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...llapsing-notifications-with-one-finger-video/

Added

I believe the multi touch cross axis issue has been fixed along with the stuttering scroll you'd get (Inside chrome) if you laid your thumb out flatly on the screen.
I can no longer replicate either.
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the multitouch issue is still present on mine.
to avoid possible confusions:
issue occours when the tablet is not held in hand or connected to the charger. i.e. grounded.
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the 'bubbles' live wallpaper seems to have a more blue/greenesh color now.
(but could be my imagination)

New location access menu

Just wandering if the random flashing black line has been fixed with this update?
Am still waiting for ota
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Just wandering if the random flashing black line has been fixed with this update?
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It does not appear to have fixed it.
Frank

Cross axis still present ;( No decent multi-touch yet.

Any idea if the slowdown once you are <3GB space left issue has gone?
/R

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Any idea if the slowdown once you are <3GB space left issue has gone?
/R
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You what? I've never had this issue, currently sitting on ~200mbs.

yes did the IO speed improve and the colors of LCD?

rakh1 said:
Any idea if the slowdown once you are <3GB space left issue has gone?
/R
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Yes it is completely fixed on mine.
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It does not appear to have fixed it.
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Am now wondering if its some sort of hardware/electrical fault.
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I'm still waiting on my update

Camera app is included with this update.

droidnext said:
Camera app is included with this update.
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it is? where?

I (and two other people in the touchscreen dead spot thread) can confirm that this issue is fixed. Those of us whose screens started dropping touches and behaving erratically after a few minutes of use no longer have it occurring after 4.1.2, something I am overjoyed about :laugh:
I have noticed that the issue of crossing axes while ungrounded still occurs, but that's entirely forgiveable imho since it's so rare that I don't hold the tablet in my hands, especially for multitouch.
The prism issue persists (washed out colours in general and especially after video), but the Prism Toggle app in the market can disable it with root, so it's not a bother for me.

Meh.
Update doesn't seem amazing to me. Think ill just stick on 4.1.1 for now!

superleeds27 said:
Meh.
Update doesn't seem amazing to me. Think ill just stick on 4.1.1 for now!
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Sorry for ot.
Up the Tigers! :laugh:

4.3 Update thread

Figured I would start a thread for our newly updated Asus tablets. I updated mine this morning before work. I haven't had much time to play with it. How is everyone liking it so far? Seem snappier? Anyone notice any new features? I'm hoping the random reboots will be fixed. This tablet is already great! Hopefully it just got better.
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It's possible to assign allowed apps to additional users. There is a option to search wifi, when it's off.
During this upgrade, the PSU of dock and tablet has been updated.

Camera was updated. You can now use the volume rocker to snap pics too.
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Since the new Update, it works a lot smoother, the dock is now always docked and didnt lose the connection to the tab.
But i had to do a full wipe, cause the launcher had some bugs, he crashed everytime i tried to get a widget to the homescreen.
AND i think the batt lives longer as before without energy saving mode.

My battery life is outstanding on 4.3

They also changed the stock file manager
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I have more free RAM now. Earlier I had 1200MB used, now I have 950MB.
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Does the OTA fix the bad connector on the tablet itself? As in if you wiggle the connector on the tablet while connected to the computer, does it still disconnect?

Seems a bit snappier to me but I was hoping it would make some games run smoother like my hp slate book but it's the same unfortunately. Stuttering still present in games and rotation animation. Might not bother you though. Overall it's a welcome update.
As far as reboot I haven't seen it yet since I updated but maybe has not been long enough to to know.
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still gets hot quickly?

-battery percentage now on the top bar if you choose it (in settings->battery)
-dock connected now only has one symbol on the top bar (instead of 2)
-permanent notification about the sd card on the top bar gone
the positive things i found so far about 4.3

Is anyone else seeing Google Play Services going crazy with the 4.3 update? According to Better Battery Stats, my tablet is not able to get into deep sleep at all since the update and the battery information is pointing to Google Play Services as the biggest culprit. I don't have root on this device yet, so I don't have as much information as I'd like. I'm wondering if a factory reset would improve the situation? I'm getting a new tablet on exchange from Amazon tomorrow, so I will likely upgrade and then factory reset with that device to see if it makes a difference.
Craig

I would factory reset after upgrading anyway, same for flashing a Rom
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AngryDinosaur said:
still gets hot quickly?
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For now I would say it doesn't get as warm when surfing as before.

ThaDoc said:
For now I would say it doesn't get as warm when surfing as before.
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ill take that as an improvement, thanks.
and also battery drain? better than before?

Battery has markedly improved as others have attested on other threads..
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xRevilatioNx said:
Battery has markedly improved as others have attested on other threads..
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good to know, thanks

csetera said:
Is anyone else seeing Google Play Services going crazy with the 4.3 update? According to Better Battery Stats, my tablet is not able to get into deep sleep at all since the update and the battery information is pointing to Google Play Services as the biggest culprit. I don't have root on this device yet, so I don't have as much information as I'd like. I'm wondering if a factory reset would improve the situation? I'm getting a new tablet on exchange from Amazon tomorrow, so I will likely upgrade and then factory reset with that device to see if it makes a difference.
Craig
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Google Play Services draining the battery (more than usual) is probably not related to the 4.3 upgrade. Have a look at this article:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...lay-services-seems-to-be-a-battery-hog-today/
Has been widely reported on various devices (I had it on my Nexus 7 yesterday or the day before).

hey folks, is the random battery saving screen brightness flicker gone? like the random dimming

Alta1r said:
Google Play Services draining the battery (more than usual) is probably not related to the 4.3 upgrade. Have a look at this article:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...lay-services-seems-to-be-a-battery-hog-today/
Has been widely reported on various devices (I had it on my Nexus 7 yesterday or the day before).
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Thanks. I saw that story go by this morning. Hopefully it is resolved now.
Semi-related... Is it possible to disable a downloaded app versus uninstalling it? I see that I can disable (some) system applications that can't be uninstalled, but if there is an app that I want to disable for the short term I'm only seeing the uninstall option. If I had root, I would use Titanium Backup, but I haven't gone there yet because I'm waiting for my exchange from Amazon to arrive.