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I recently got my Kaiser (tilt) and with the speed tests that I have done the fastest download speeds I get are around 700kbits. Is this normal?
On my Titan (Telus) Evdo Rev A I could easily hit 1600kbits.
upstread is about 350kbits vs 500 kbits for EDO Rev A/
The ATT person assured me that their HSDPA was faster than EDO.
If anyone has speed stats, that would be greatly apprecaiated.
Thanks,
David
Yeah man my hdspa through ATT is horrible as well. Dont have figures for you but it drags.
i disagree it depends where you are and then there are TONS of other factors that infulance HSDPA speed. i am in NYC and on good days i get 1.6MB yes you read that right BUT most days its between 900kbs and 750kbs. with all the new 3G iphones on the at-t network now i believe you will see At-t step up there speed before the end of the summer but remember there are TONS of factors that infulance the down and up speed. if your in a major city then your speeds will probably be a little faster.
Hang on, as I understand it (please correct if wrong) HSDPA was rolled out last year, and HSUPA has still to implemented properly?
Anyone?
yes that is correct..a big factor too is your device..i recently found this out but alot of the ca[abilities of hsdpa were meant to achieve via tethering..your device can only write so fast to its rom/storage card and it cant really meet the demands of the downlink speeds of your umts signal so you have a bogged down speed of usually no more than 1mbit (ive NEVER gotten over 900kbit) but tethering you can get upwards of 2mbit
I tried my test with and without tethering. Without tethering it was about 700kbit, with tethering it ranged from 700k to 900k.
This is about half the speed that I had previously with EDO rev A.
Furthermore, what really hurts is the latency. With EDO-A I had about 40ms, with HSDPA (and I believe HSUPA, as someone from AT&T told me) I get close to 500ms.
I did notice something odd: With sppedtest.net, it claims that my nearest server is somewhere in Chicago or something, with with EDO-A it was right in Toronto where I was.
I have removed the hidden proxy, but I suspect that my data may be going through some odd place in the middle of the US. New York is a lot closer to Chicago than Seattle is.
I wonder if there are settings that we can make to access a different data site, or if we are just using a bad DNS server that directs us to a non-ideal site.
For the record, I generally install "ATT settings", turn off the proxy and then "Remove hidden proxy". I have not tried using the operator config program that is supposed to set things up automatically.
Btw: All tests are with full bars and Radio 1.71????? (e-monster) and a windows mobile 6.1 ROM with Internet sharing 6.0 to allow free tethering (at least I think that is what it is for)
Regarding storage, I am surprised that this could be a limiting factor with the Kaisers RAM and the storage cache sizes that I use.
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I did notice something odd: With sppedtest.net, it claims that my nearest server is somewhere in Chicago or something, with with EDO-A it was right in Toronto where I was.
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So are you using your Tilt in Canada? Is so, then you are not on AT&T's towers, and the speeds are the fault of the roaming provider, not AT&T.
I get roughly 1700kbps on hspda here in Rochester NY. Im running Slueth v3.0 Rom.
Well, I have HSDPA and im running at 1113 kbps. I have done a speed test 3 times and its around those numbers. So maybe its the radio version or rom. or it could be the coverage area. Im in the NYC.
i work at AT&T not for but at, and i have a tilt unlocked the HSDPA and was averaging 1400kbps and we have little GSM towers in our building(they habg from the cealing and look like upside down vases. so i'm guessing this would be pretty average for "good network conditions."
-MM
Sorry that was confusing: To clarify, I moved to Seattle from Toronto and I signed up for AT&T.
I have a feeling that it might have to do the logon and/or DNS results. My account says wap.cingular, when I ping this, it resolves to different IP's on a regular basis (load balancing?) But they are generally far away.
I got lucky later on one night and managed to get a wap.cingular address in San Jose and my speed was 1000kps according to www.speedtest.net using tethering.
On another test I got an IP in florida and I had 500kbps and a ping of 0.9 seconds.
When using OpenDNS I seem to get better results, but that may just be placebo.
Is there a way to use a hard coded IP rather than wap.cingular that is located in Seattle? I am not sure how "wap.cingular" is used explicitly as I cannot enter an IP and have it just work.
You can hardcode DNS addresses by editing the settings of your MEdia Net connection. I remember seeing in a different post that people seem to have good success with using OpenDNS' servers.
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I have the Hyperdragon Rom where it has the ability to select whether to enable the "H" HSDPA/HSUPA Mode but I have no idea which one is hooked up when the H is displayed.
Is there a tool that changes between say, an "H" and an "Hu"?
Also, can someone tell me where to learn more about the Open Server stuff for cingular?
Thanks.
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Sorry that was confusing: To clarify, I moved to Seattle from Toronto and I signed up for AT&T.
I have a feeling that it might have to do the logon and/or DNS results. My account says wap.cingular, when I ping this, it resolves to different IP's on a regular basis (load balancing?) But they are generally far away.
I got lucky later on one night and managed to get a wap.cingular address in San Jose and my speed was 1000kps according to www.speedtest.net using tethering.
On another test I got an IP in florida and I had 500kbps and a ping of 0.9 seconds.
When using OpenDNS I seem to get better results, but that may just be placebo.
Is there a way to use a hard coded IP rather than wap.cingular that is located in Seattle? I am not sure how "wap.cingular" is used explicitly as I cannot enter an IP and have it just work.
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Well, if you are actually PAYING for the PDA/Tether plan ( like me ), you can try using isp.cingular vs wap.cingular. It is definitely faster ( not a "placebo effect" ). My latencies are never in the 500's, although compared to my fiber line its still not comparable lol
Is there a way to force HSDPA? I have it enabled (using advance config) & rarely does it connect to it, uses Edge majority of the time.
if the place you are present have poor hsdpa support it
roam to other network types
would you rather have it loose connection ?
+1 on what Rudegar sad, also its BTS who decide for you when HSDPA should kick in. If you are in area you will recieve.
So theres no way to force the connection?
I had three bars earlier when connection & worked awsome, now Im on edge & fights to get 10kbps down. Ive noticed this in the cities Im in often like Roanoke,VA, Atlanta, Montgomery,AL, Virginia Beach, Detroit.
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So theres no way to force the connection?
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It's just like if you have a 56 kbps modem - remember those antiques from only 10 years ago - there's no way to force a higher connection speed without unreliability and connection drops coming into the equation. Maybe it's time to trial another network (perhaps with a pay as you go sim) and see how their offerings compare.
Where in Va Beach? I live in Va Beach and get HSDPA pretty much everywhere i go.
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Where in Va Beach? I live in Va Beach and get HSDPA pretty much everywhere i go.
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Like I stated above its the base station who opens up for you when you download or stream. You are not in HSDPA constantly as it does not enable until you do the above.
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Like I stated above its the base station who opens up for you when you download or stream. You are not in HSDPA constantly as it does not enable until you do the above.
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]I think that'll be very network provider dependent because where I live its always HSDPA irrespective of whether a data connection is present. Depending where I travel to, I have had cases where the connection drops to 3G but then as soon as I initiate a data connection it jumps up to H and I've had further cases where it's E or G and a data connection makes no difference.
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]I think that'll be very network provider dependent because where I live its always HSDPA irrespective of whether a data connection is present. Depending where I travel to, I have had cases where the connection drops to 3G but then as soon as I initiate a data connection it jumps up to H and I've had further cases where it's E or G and a data connection makes no difference.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
Fast packet scheduling
The HS-DSCH downlink channel is shared between users using channel-dependent scheduling to make the best use of available radio conditions. Each user device periodically transmits an indication of the downlink signal quality, as often as 500 times per second. Using this information from all devices, the base station decides which users will be sent data on the next 2 ms frame and how much data should be sent for each user. More data can be sent to users which report high downlink signal quality.
The amount of the channelisation code tree, and thus network bandwidth, allocated to HSDPA users is determined by the network. The allocation is "semi-static" in that it can be modified while the network is operating, but not on a frame-by-frame basis. This allocation represents a trade-off between bandwidth allocated for HSDPA users, versus that for voice and non-HSDPA data users. The allocation is in units of channelisation codes for Spreading Factor 16, of which 16 exist and up to 15 can be allocated to HSDPA. When the base station decides which users will receive data on the next frame, it also decides which channelisation codes will be used for each user. This information is sent to the user devices over one or more HSDPA "scheduling channels"; these channels are not part of the HSDPA allocation previously mentioned, but are allocated separately. Thus, for a given 2 ms frame, data may be sent to a number of users simultaneously, using different channelisation codes. The maximum number of users to receive data on a given 2 ms frame is determined by the number of allocated channelisation codes. By contrast, in CDMA2000 1xEV-DO, data is sent to only one user at a time.
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I was actually looking at that page a few days ago with regards to speeds but it doesn't change the fact that in some locations my phone shows the H icon when there isn't even a hint of a data connection present and no voice call taking place at the time either. Under such circumstances, it could have quite easily dropped back to a 3G icon until HSDPA is needed but it nearly always doesn't. The only place I've found it does work like this, interestingly enough, is when I'm going past the O2 UK HQ beside Slough train station where it will drop back to 3 G unless a data connection is in place.
When I was using Vodafone UK, this did not happen in the same loacation (never tested for this near their HQ out at Newbury) but again I experienced many cases where the H icon was shown on the phone but not needed. Thats why I've mentioned it's network dependant. I take your point that the specs dictate it should work otherwise but in my case thats not played out to be how it's gone.
If you want I can make your icon show a Q or Z for that matter, 3G as ONE a connection is a misleading term as it describes many technologies. Normal HSDPA suppose to show H when used and 3G idling. Remember the 6.1 ROM`s who displayed H all the time HSDPA or not? If you read up on wiki you will understand what I sad about HSDPA in earlier post. You cant draw conclusions based on what icon your phone is showing as the HSDPA technology will work as it always has.
So as long you do not stream/call of use for HSDPA you will not stay in it. So if you going to force it to stay in HSDPA you need to constant stream, an idle HSDPA connection swich over to 3g and back once called upon. So correct me if I am wrong here ... And I preferred documented. The only thing that is provider dependent here are if they support it and the coverage of it. The technology which I was talking about has nothing to do whit just that.
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I was actually looking at that page a few days ago with regards to speeds but it doesn't change the fact that in some locations my phone shows the H icon when there isn't even a hint of a data connection present and no voice call taking place at the time either. Under such circumstances, it could have quite easily dropped back to a 3G icon until HSDPA is needed but it nearly always doesn't. The only place I've found it does work like this, interestingly enough, is when I'm going past the O2 UK HQ beside Slough train station where it will drop back to 3 G unless a data connection is in place.
When I was using Vodafone UK, this did not happen in the same loacation (never tested for this near their HQ out at Newbury) but again I experienced many cases where the H icon was shown on the phone but not needed. Thats why I've mentioned it's network dependant. I take your point that the specs dictate it should work otherwise but in my case thats not played out to be how it's gone.
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You cant draw conclusions based on what icon your phone is showing as the HSDPA technology will work as it always has.
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Why would my phone lie to me like that given (in the same locations) it reliably and correctly detects that it is in 3G and then when a data connection is initiated bumps up to H. There is no doubt to me that it is reliably detecting the connection type as it does this every time I travel through Slough on the train if I initiate a data connection. Similarly it seems as if the H, 3G, G and even E, do correctly display under the right circumstances. Again, I've no dobt about the HSDPA specs and how it should work, I'm just saying in reality with my HTC Official ROM'd phone (both using my current setup and previously WM 6.1), it's behaved that way in practice.
I think the OP wants the same sort of performance and indications from his phone that I'm getting from mine and I know no way to 'force' an HSDPA connection and get appropriate speeds if the network infrastructure and signal strenth aren't up to the task. On the other hand there maybe another network that operates much better in a given area which will provide whats required and there's little cost in doing some 'trialling' of competing networks in the areas involved.
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You cant draw conclusions based on what icon your phone is showing as the HSDPA technology will work as it always has.
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Why would my phone lie to me like that given.........
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Listen mate, I dont know why you want to argue or what you want to argue about???? Twisting and turning my answers are not going to do the trick here, OP asked about forcing he`s device in HSDPA, I answered that it would not work cause HSDPA does not work like that. Then you come in and start talking about something completely else and nagging on my answer?? I do not care what your phone shows and how it work in local area`s nearby you as it has nothing whit my answer or on topic IMO to do.
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Like I stated above its the base station who opens up for you when you download or stream. You are not in HSDPA constantly as it does not enable until you do the above.
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]I think that'll be very network provider dependent because where I live its always HSDPA irrespective of whether a data connection is present. Depending where I travel to, I have had cases where the connection drops to 3G but then as soon as I initiate a data connection it jumps up to H and I've had further cases where it's E or G and a data connection makes no difference.
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This comment triggered it all, if I had knew that you would not be interested in my answers on your comment I would not have taken the time to explain about HSDPA.
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I know no way to 'force' an HSDPA connection
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Then what do you argue about here? I am not going to comment this further as what ever I say does not get to you and there is nothing to more discuss.
Nothing personal
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Listen mate, I dont know why you want to argue or what you want to argue about???? Twisting and turning my answers are not going to do the trick here, OP asked about forcing he`s device in HSDPA, I answered that it would not work cause HSDPA does not work like that.
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There's no need to bring out the 'listen mate' with multiple questionmarks on the end. I do listen where I think something is clear and correct. If I think there's more to an issue, I chime in. In response to your link to that wikipedia page which outlines how it should work (in an ideal world), I'm telling you that some networks do not appear to implement things according to the official specs so it won't necessarily behave that way. My examples based from usage/observations in many different locations around the UK prove that point and as I mentioned that was also the case when I was with Vodafone here so that's all, no more, no less and no intention to offend.
Then you come in and start talking about something completely else and nagging on my answer?? I do not care what your phone shows and how it work in local area`s nearby you as it has nothing whit my answer or on topic IMO to do.
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There's those multiple questionmarks again, calm down, I'm not having a go at you. I think it's best for the OP to make that determination whether my comments are relevant as we both replied in order to try and help that person out. You with some might say the 'official' line and me with the 'in practice' line. In the end we agree the answer as to what can be done to force HSDPA is the same ie nothing. I added the possibility that if better performance is saught, a network change may provide this.
This comment triggered it all, if I had knew that you would not be interested in my answers on your comment I would not have taken the time to explain about HSDPA.
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I was interested all right, I felt your original answer and the subsequent wikipedia link didn't paint the whole picture so that's why I came in. I trust that you will eventually understand and accept that. Remember, I'm not having a go at you
So we just got 3G here this week, but when I am on the 3g network, my cell triangulation doesn't work. can someone with 3G in their city confirm that it is working for them so I can stop worrying about it?
Thx
NC?
How does one know if triangulation is working exactly, ha
SLC utah
make sure your GPS is off then open Google Maps and hit menu - My Location.
I go to lunch in a few and will test. Raleigh NC just turned 3G this week as well.
Confirmed: same issue... can not find my location, where edge can (did not cut off 3g, basing that off of 1 year of using maps up till this week when i got 3g in my city).
Anyone have thoughts on this?
For that matter.... why do i not have 3g in buildings/homes? I only have 3g when outside.
Worked on edge.
In phone status it shows my network as UTMS, not 3G (used to say Edge).
I guess this in normal?
Think about how "triangulation" works (improper name, really):
Along one of the low-bandwidth data channels (along with network time, network name, etc.) are a few small numbers: your MCC and MNC (describe which network: 310/410 for att usa, 310/260 for tmo usa. Those are compared against the return from AT+COPS (or actually a little database if you see "T-Mobile" or "AT&T", compared with "Voicestream Wire", "Cingular", "ATT0", or often just "") to get your network.
Those are then combined with two more numbers, the LAC and CID. The Location Area Code is unique to a region on a network (pretty wide range), and the CID is unique per tower. There is no lookup (similar to COPS) that provides a location from a given cid. This means that you have to look up the LAC/CID against a database (MCC/MNC sometimes speed up searching/possibly sort out duplicates - idk). There are a few of these databases available - there's one free one which I'm thinking about, google probably keeps one (they keep a wifi database too), microsoft probably keeps one, etc. AFAIK, there's no unified database... please correct me if I'm wrong. However, the networks do provide their tower lists to big-name lists.
One last thing to think about - the companies will always try to sell you on the idea that they use multiple towers and find the area their coverage overlaps, or that they use "the unique footprint of a tower"... basically, they put your rough location as the complete coverage area of the tower to which you are currently registered. Actually, they don't really calculate it well - it's just a circle around the tower. What google means by this second claim (the footprints one) is that some of the circles are different sizes, depending on whether the cell is full power, low power, etc. This is especially provable in my bedroom - I have access at full signal to two 3g towers (I love this area ), that seem to overlap right here. This means that, when I use google maps, or another similar program, the circles constantly move between the two. It also means that I get spammed with unsolicited +CREG's on my modem line, as it moves around .
Combining all this knowledge, I know exactly what's wrong. #1: the lac/cid on the EDGE tower elements is different than the 3g towers (makes sense, for signal range calculations), #2: google knows about the LAC/CID on the EDGE towers, and #3: google doesn't yet have the new 3g towers' LAC/CID information in their database. Therefore, the program is passed information it doesn't know about, so it simply returns an error.
Proposed solution: wait a week or two
ADDITION: You don't have 3g in houses because the 3g signal does not penetrate as well (It's on a higher frequency, and the signal drops after less interference than edge). Since these are new towers, they may also be running at reduced power.
I'm in SLC as well, and can also confirm wierdness with the non-GPS location over the first couple of weeks... including one day where my phone absolutely insisted that I was just outside of San Diego. Quite mean of my phone to tease me like that considering that I was in West Valley City at the time. It seems to be getting better as time goes on.
^^ wow, I can feel the authority. Thanks for a great post. I think you are correct, the 3G seems to be getting better coverage (sometimes getting it in my house now). I trust t-mo and google, thank you man.
I don't know EDGE technology (never delved into it), but I seriously doubt poly's claim that it uses a different frequency than 3G. If you're using a USA spec G1, then your tphone has a single radio for t-mobile's 1900 MHz band.
The issues you are noticing with 3G coverage are more likely due to SIR parameter set by the deployment engineers (i.e. they are telling the 3G cell to only 'talk' to your phone if the signal is strong).
This is just a guess, though. There could be any number of issues going on, like some misconfigured settings on the RNC's for your sector (which makes sense if the coverage is new).
UMTS is the 3G technology that T-mobile (and AT&T) use, so that is normal.
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I don't know EDGE technology (never delved into it), but I seriously doubt poly's claim that it uses a different frequency than 3G. If you're using a USA spec G1, then your tphone has a single radio for t-mobile's 1900 MHz band.
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yeah, it's generally not too much of an issue - all the frequncies are pretty close (I think the 850mhz stuff from att might go a bit better than the old 1900, but it is pretty close). And, as I just discovered, tmo is entirely 1900mhz, so that part was mistaken. The rest should be accurate to the best of my knowledge (eg. EDGE can take more interference before it drops, etc.)
EDIT: Nope, their entire EDGE network is 1900mhz, but their 3g is only 1700/2100. So, it's a tossup, and that close makes not much of a difference.
I think I have figured out part of a mystery here...
It is well known that there are some GPS problems with the Telus Milestone when unlocked for other networks. I've already rooted my device to replace the Telus SUPL server in the location.conf files with the Google SUPL server. I use my Milestone on Fido.
But this week I have noticed something quite peculiar. I have 2 apps that allow me to view a cell tower ID: one is Tricorder, and the other is Google Maps (under About, myl).
The usual cell tower when I'm in 3G/UMTS mode at home in East Vancouver reads as follows in Maps: 302:720:65500:1957869 (in Tricorder, appears as just 1957869)
In 2G/EDGE mode: 302:720:16000:57322
Here is the strange thing. I leave for school, take the bus to UBC, 45 minutes away. I open up Tricorder. My cell tower still appears as 1957869. I am way too far from home to possibly be on the same tower. And, not surprisingly, when I open Maps it first pinpoints my location in the vicinity of my home in East Van.
If I activate 2G only mode, wait about 10 seconds, and then deactivate it, Tricorder and Maps will now show a completely different cell tower ID - at which point Maps starts behaving properly again.
Why is my phone passing stale tower IDs to apps? This would go a long way to explain the GPS problems I still have.
That's a known bug of 2.1 rom for milestone. There's a minor updated rom (hk .34) that solves the problem, which is an agps bug.
That's pretty annoyng... you should turn gps on, that's it...
Im waiting for froyo...
Ciao,
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That's a known bug of 2.1 rom for milestone. There's a minor updated rom (hk .34) that solves the problem, which is an agps bug.
That's pretty annoyng... you should turn gps on, that's it...
Im waiting for froyo...
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Yes, GPS is on, but the problem is that Android seems to default to taking the cell tower ID first (stale), then GPS. It's perfectly capable of using wifi geolocation but it seems to place greater faith in the stale cell tower ID. So when I open Maps or another location aware app, it will believe for anywhere from 5-60 seconds that I'm still in the old location.
Interesting to hear the HK version has it fixed. Of course I can't use an HK ROM on a Telus Milestone without losing 3G.
*But*... is it possible the module containing the fix (kernel?) could be packed up alone into an SBF file for flashing, without overwriting the rest of the firmeware?
I should add: In EDGE mode, Tricorder detects the cell ID of 2 other nearby networks. In UMTS mode, Tricorder only seems to see one cell ID, and the other two slots are filled with "-1". So not only does it report the wrong cell ID to software, but it also provides no context for self-correction...
Hy,
You do not loose the ability of being on a 3g network. I use a hk nandroid backup w/ some tweaks and works fine on my 3g carrier (not .36 tho).
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Exit: read about the frequencies issues in the other thread. So, yeah, hk will not work in canada! ;(
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I just installed the new Thai version released by GOT. Other bugs appear to be fixed. According to Tricorder I'm still only seeing one UMTS cell ID... and unfortunately that ID is -1 right now. Airplane mode, then off again, now I see 1951258.
I won't be able to tell if goes stale until I actually leave the house today though So let's get on that...
I tentatively report that this issue is *fixed* in the new releases from Group of Ten. On the new Thai firmware I am able to see changes in the UMTS cell ID. The Maps app seems to provide a better approximate "first guess" than it used to, even without a GPS lock.
how exactly does the tricorder work cmstlist? I dont understand what the -1 means and the larger number ontop of the -1.
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how exactly does the tricorder work cmstlist? I dont understand what the -1 means and the larger number ontop of the -1.
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In Tricorder, press "EMS" to get cellular and wifi data.
On my phone, the first line under cellular says:
1962*** Fido 16
(Cell tower ID, provider, signal strength)
There are 2-3 tower IDs that show up for my particular location consistently. If I see those IDs when I'm way across town then I know it's incorrect.
The second and third lines both say -1. I think it's just that the OS isn't providing the app any additional tower info. In 2G mode I see three different tower IDs sometimes.
Mines only seeing one tower but its signal strength is 21... good or bad?
Normal. I think for some reason the Milestone just doesn't pass on more than one tower ID at a time to the software in UMTS mode.
I think mines defective anyways... gonna return it for a different one on tuesday.
I'm having a hard time figuring out if i'm having a phone issue or is it a network issue that I need to get used to. Simple tasks such as navigation I can rarely get to work if i've already started moving. It will act as if searching for service for 2 or 3 minutes before it gets a lock and will begin navigating. I have had times with AT&T where I had little to 0 service and navigation would pick up fine, but with Sprint I see connection lost a lot more. Is this a Sprint thing or you think I got a bad phone?
I will have 3-4 bars of service on 3G and can stream music but refreshing something like Twitter can take several minutes or timeout completely. I live in Atlanta and have rarely seen 4G/LTE which I believe to be strange because Sprint's coverage map indicates they have strong coverage most of the places i've experienced the hiccups.
What do you guys think?
I think it's a phone issue. I have it as well. ...at least the "GPS lost" issue. Didn't have it with my note 2. I get fast GPS locks though.
No issue with data except for sprints typical slowness
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I haven't had that issue but I don't live near anywhere as large a metropolitan area as Atlanta so that could be an issue. My GPS locks are nearly instant but I do have problems streaming music sometimes.
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I'm having a hard time figuring out if i'm having a phone issue or is it a network issue that I need to get used to. Simple tasks such as navigation I can rarely get to work if i've already started moving. It will act as if searching for service for 2 or 3 minutes before it gets a lock and will begin navigating. I have had times with AT&T where I had little to 0 service and navigation would pick up fine, but with Sprint I see connection lost a lot more. Is this a Sprint thing or you think I got a bad phone?
I will have 3-4 bars of service on 3G and can stream music but refreshing something like Twitter can take several minutes or timeout completely. I live in Atlanta and have rarely seen 4G/LTE which I believe to be strange because Sprint's coverage map indicates they have strong coverage most of the places i've experienced the hiccups.
What do you guys think?
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I would call Sprint Customer care and tell them you are having issues with data services and that you have heard of this issue. Have them verify your UUIC ID number under settings/about/Phone identity. This is also the same as the SIM ID. They may say oh thats for international only but what they don't know yet is that number must match on your account for all your data services to behave properly. I figured this out after 6 phone exchanges.....the phone was fine....it was that number that was messed up.
My symptoms where:
- Slow data
- Dropped calls
- Radio was always using EvDo rev. A (check in settings/about/network)
- Never on EHRPD (Required for 4g LTE handoff with the towers)
- 104 data errors (these still happen but much less and is because they are still building out the 4g network here)
I hope this helps and will fix your issues. It did for me.