Hey guys, why isn't Plair getting any attention? Am I not understanding something? Isn't this what the Chromecast strives to be?
http://home.plair.com/
Can someone give me a reason why I shouldn't buy a Plair? Here's a review of the Plair 2 from Engadget. Somehow I have completely missed the news on this device.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/01/plair-2-hdmi-wireless-streaming-dongle-runs-android/
Hadn't heard of it myself but I'd say the Chromecast is probably a nicer experience for what it does based on Engadgets below quote:
"In general, the fact of the matter is that Chromecast is less expensive, currently streams video better than Plair does and its native app control paradigm is superior to Plair's proprietary remote."
But if you want access to android applications and additional functionality on the device it sounds nice, however it's hard to beat the simpleness and niceness of interacting with the Chromecast (which is what brought me into purchasing one). The only real issue I have with the Chromecast as it stands is its white listing system which is stifling development efforts.
ChromeCast is the way!
Plair reviews aren't great.
For $50, get a Roku. If you're getting a Roku, pay the extra 50 and get the 3.
I didn't understand what was so special about it compared to any android hdmi dongle. This one getting attention looked to me like they paid for some spotlight whereas others might not have. Will the plair get Android updates and stay relevant? Time will tell but Chromecast seems like it has a lot more room to grow and the backing of a powerful company.
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siratfus said:
Hey guys, why isn't Plair getting any attention? Am I not understanding something? Isn't this what the Chromecast strives to be?
http://home.plair.com/
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Nope. In this review, Android Plair2 Review, I think they summed it fairly well:
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Once things are all setup, this is where it gets a bit more interesting. Not to mention, where the similarities to the Chromecast stop... The big difference between this and the Chromecast — with PLAiR you are launching the remote app on your phone and then controlling the dongle itself. As opposed to launching the Netflix (or Hulu Plus) app and sending the stream to Chromecast.
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The end result may be similar, but what they're doing is different.
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Can someone give me a reason why I shouldn't buy a Plair? Here's a review of the Plair 2 from Engadget. Somehow I have completely missed the news on this device.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/01/plair-2-hdmi-wireless-streaming-dongle-runs-android/
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I'm not going to attempt. The question is really, what are your trying to accomplish or need you're trying to fill with the device that you can't with the Chromecast or your devices you have at home. This device is meant for home use and if you have something like a PS3, Roku, AppleTV, Xbox and so forth, it's actually a very redundant device. The Chromecast, although limited in apps, is an very cheap tinker toy. It was event better with the three free months of Netflix, which if you have subscription, then reduced the cost to around $15, including taxes and shipping.
Personally, I think the Roku is great little set top box at a good price.
i don't have plair but chromecast is just waste my time and mony since i have updated it . and cant be rooted.
plair2
hola a todos hace un par de semanas compre Plair 2 y aparte que viene con aplicaciones instaladas pude instalar otras App ,también lo conecte con un cable OTG y pude conectar un mouse y tecleado inhalambrico ah también lector de tarjetas y funciono muy bien
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hola a todos hace un par de semanas compre Plair 2 y aparte que viene con aplicaciones instaladas pude instalar otras App ,también lo conecte con un cable OTG y pude conectar un mouse y tecleado inhalambrico ah también lector de tarjetas y funciono muy bien
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PlAiR 2 looks interesting, though the initial reviews weren't so great
2 out of 5 from CNet - http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-media-receivers/plair-2/4505-6739_7-35831267.html
3 out of 5 from Laptop - http://www.laptopmag.com/review/set-top-box/plair-2.aspx
For reference, Chromecast did slightly better
3.5 out of 5 from CNet - http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-media-receivers/google-chromecast/4505-6739_7-35823617.html#!
3.5 out of 5 from Laptop - http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/accessories/chromecast.aspx
The short story seems to be if you want something that's open and you can install and hack (and potentially break) all you want, get PlAiR 2 or another Android TV stick. If you want something that's closed but (generally) more stable and tested, you're back to Chromecast and Roku LT.
PlAiR is an Android device first, media player second, just like other Android TV sticks.
Chromecast and Roku are just media players first, and people are bending them to be more, but not without a good amount of effort.
This isn't doing anything you couldn't do 6 Months ago....
If they added the DIAL functionality of the CCast to it then it might be worth the extra money.
I didn't read all the reviews but did not see anyone mention mirroring capability.
I am more apt to go with the device that is setting a STANDARD for Media distribution than one that is using a proprietary remote system and App system. You have a much better shot at seeing a networked surround Amplifier adding DIAL send functions and remote control than you have of seeing your manufacturer making an App to do this on the Plair side.
The Plair and the Android stick is a nice idea if you really want to add Smart Functionality to a dumb TV...
But until they realize that to do this properly they need to make the dongle an Add On connector to the HDMI Chain (Like the Google TV boxes did) , Plug your Cable Box or Amplifier into the dongle and the dongle into the TV so no switching of Inputs is required... The ergonomics are simply too complicated for the masses to use...
HDMI-CEC will help some but then again if you needed this to make your TV Smart you likely don't have CEC on your TV anyway.
This is the second attempt at jumping into the Dongle Market and they still have fallen a bit short of the CCast both in price and in features.
The eventual Dongle Winner will be the one who adds wired Network, Mirroring, HDMI Passthrough, as well as has DIAL, MKV and full surround codec support (maybe even some limited transcoding capability) and come with an App or DIAL Player App that can run a full ChromeOS or Android that in conjunction with a WiFi keyboard Mouse combination (also not invented yet, BlueTooth has limited range) can make the ultimate Smart TV replacement.
Whoever gets there may even make billions licencing it to the TV Manufacturers to become the defacto standard for Smart TVs.
But the truth is what I just described is really Android TV...Make the SmartTV an Android device, that can overlay the OS over whatever the current input is.
We have a ways to go before that ever happens if at all.
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anybody got any exp with it?
was thinking about getting one mainly for
having an easy access to music from the pc
in the livingroom for partys where i guess
the easyness of apple would be handy if you
had a bit of a drink
and maybe the odd yourTube click for fun
and a few video clicps not too many so i guess
the 40gb would be enough
apple TV sucks, especially the value of it. Its simply too expensive for its features. I rather buy a home media centre PC for the living room TV.
I quite like them
Dont expect to get every youtube clip on it though, they are currently somewhat limited.
Certainly when 'modified' they become great little boxes capable of playing XVID encoded videos.
A friend of mine (www.semthex.com) developed a kernel for it that allows Tiger 10.4 to run natively!
Well worth the money IMHO.
buy a used macmini add $20 adapter
mini duo +
dvi- hdmi
or dvi to s
4 usb ports
usb to s-video nad sound
i or 2 firewire ports to all of the above including dvi hdmi
all white apple adapters frys
assuming that mac tcv is still over priced
mini is mac tv skills and adapter (no skills if you can listen to a guy at the apple store)
assuming mactv is still $$$$
ebay mini duo $300 xp upgrade $0 Toshiba dvd player with usb port and divx on it$40
or even $20 linksys wireless gaming device to tv
yu got options
i dont really want another pc
what i want is a device with 0 boottime
and zero hassel
that my gf and or guests can operate without
having to mess about
So wondering what you all think of your chromcasts, I like mine but I can't say its the best thing ever. It feels almost useless. Now don't get me wrong, what it does do, it does extremely well and ts my favorite way of watching youtube but it doesn't do much.
I mean there are just so many devices that can stream youtube and netflix. And both youtube and netflix could already be controlled remotely way before the chromecast. The only thing its super useful for is for those who invested a lot of money in google play music and movies and I personally havn't due to their prices usually being more.
Then again it was only $43 after shipping and taxes and it should have plenty more features on the way I hope. Hopefully google will finish the sdk soon and we can get some real use out of it. Though its hard to justify buying something on what it might do in the future.
I guess I don't regret buying it, but its hard to recommend it to someone right now.
How do you all feel about it?
I love mine, but I only paid $35 (amazon free shipping, and no tax where I live), and I got the three months free Netflix (already a member).
I have a Vizio smart TV, and the Netflix app is bad. It hasn't been updated in three years. Cannot enable closed captions. Cannot view all episodes for a TV series with more than 100 episodes. Plus, it's slow. So the Chromecast was an easy way to upgrade my Netflix experience.
I was going to use it to stream local stuff to my TV, but instead I just hooked up my computer directly to the TV and set up plex for other TVs.
I would like to see being able to cast the browser from a phone. Plus support for plex or other DLNA streaming would be nice.
At $43, it's too close to $55 for a Roku XS, personally. I don't see it as a Roku or Apple TV competitor. Nor, in its current state, a replacement for either or them. But, I think it's a much better play at getting to TV service than the Q was. I'm interested to see what Google does with it in the next year.
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So wondering what you all think of your chromcasts, I like mine but I can't say its the best thing ever. It feels almost useless. Now don't get me wrong, what it does do, it does extremely well and ts my favorite way of watching youtube but it doesn't do much.
I mean there are just so many devices that can stream youtube and netflix. And both youtube and netflix could already be controlled remotely way before the chromecast. The only thing its super useful for is for those who invested a lot of money in google play music and movies and I personally havn't due to their prices usually being more.
Then again it was only $43 after shipping and taxes and it should have plenty more features on the way I hope. Hopefully google will finish the sdk soon and we can get some real use out of it. Though its hard to justify buying something on what it might do in the future.
I guess I don't regret buying it, but its hard to recommend it to someone right now.
How do you all feel about it?
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I pretty much agree with you on all points. For about 6 years i have had a HTPC hooked up to our main home TV screen. With a wireless keyboard attached, it does pretty much everything that chromecast/roku/internet tv's/xbox 360/etc will do and more. I have been a XBMC user since back in the softmodded xbox 1 days. I switched to my HTPC when high def video releases became more common and I needed more horsepower.
Using my tablet to browse and cast youtube videos has been pretty fun. Chromecast caused me to take the time to get my tablet (iconia a500) on a updated and stable ROM. I had been ignoring it for some time and the previous rom I had was crashy and frustrating.
Mostly, i bought Chromecast because i believe the dev community will eventually do some fun stuff with it.
Chromecast was next to free when i bought it since I got the netflix deal. I wish I would have bought at least 10 more. they seem to be going for double on Seattle Craigslist.
firesoul453 said:
So wondering what you all think of your chromcasts, I like mine but I can't say its the best thing ever. It feels almost useless. Now don't get me wrong, what it does do, it does extremely well and ts my favorite way of watching youtube but it doesn't do much.
I mean there are just so many devices that can stream youtube and netflix. And both youtube and netflix could already be controlled remotely way before the chromecast. The only thing its super useful for is for those who invested a lot of money in google play music and movies and I personally havn't due to their prices usually being more.
Then again it was only $43 after shipping and taxes and it should have plenty more features on the way I hope. Hopefully google will finish the sdk soon and we can get some real use out of it. Though its hard to justify buying something on what it might do in the future.
I guess I don't regret buying it, but its hard to recommend it to someone right now.
How do you all feel about it?
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I like mine a lot. But, then, i like my Toast-r-Oven a lot also. Is my Toast-r-Oven the same as a full sized oven? No. Is it the same as a microwave oven? No. But that doesn't mean that I won't have all three and use them differently.
The best feature about the Chromecast is that it's literally plug and play. Type in a wifi password and you're done. About as easy a technology product to use that I've ever seen. This will make it a big hit. I would have no problem giving this to any friend that knows absolutely nothing about technology.
I've used an HTPC as my primary mode of content delivery for years and I've been always searching for a better way to completely eliminate the need for a mouse/kb. My remote and tablet both fully XBMC for all the things I download. But my other big source of content has been Netflix, for which there has been no good way to access without using a mouse at the very least. That's been a big annoyance to me for some time, so being able to fully control Netflix, while getting the highest HD and 5.1 stream possible, has been huge.
I'm hoping that HBO Go will be implemented soon. Hopefully the Xfinity will get support, as well. I'm not going to hold my breath, but maybe someday Amazon will finally release a true Android app and they'll put in Chromecast support. I'm looking forward to the expansion of content, but for me, just putting the control of Netflix onto my tablet has made the product a winner.
a better way to completely eliminate the need for a mouse/kb. My remote and tablet both fully XBMC for all the things I download. But my other big source of content has been Netflix, for which there has been no good way to access without using a mouse at the very least.
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Off the main subject, but...
Have you tried the gmote app? it sort of accomplishes the same thing as turning your tablet or android phone into a touchpad. You have to run a little server app on the HTPC though.
Another workaround I came up with is to used a wireless keyboard with a mouse (roller ball or touchpad) built in. These are no good for gaming, bit they are a little handier than a separate mouse and keyboard. I have tried both of these and they have been decent.
lenovo multimedia remote/keyboard
Iogear multimedia remote/keyboard
mudsloth said:
I've used an HTPC as my primary mode of content delivery for years and I've been always searching for a better way to completely eliminate the need for a mouse/kb. My remote and tablet both fully XBMC for all the things I download. But my other big source of content has been Netflix, for which there has been no good way to access without using a mouse at the very least. That's been a big annoyance to me for some time, so being able to fully control Netflix, while getting the highest HD and 5.1 stream possible, has been huge.
I'm hoping that HBO Go will be implemented soon. Hopefully the Xfinity will get support, as well. I'm not going to hold my breath, but maybe someday Amazon will finally release a true Android app and they'll put in Chromecast support. I'm looking forward to the expansion of content, but for me, just putting the control of Netflix onto my tablet has made the product a winner.
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Apple TV (version 3) and Roku 3 are both 1080p and have on-screen browsing, which is obviously better than dinking around with a tablet. And they are only $100, so there is no barrier to just getting one.
I have a htpc, too, and it sits now. It's just too much easier and better to browse with a remote.
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To those using XBMC get yatse. Its a remote for XBMC and you can "share" youtube vids with your XBMC from your phone or tablet
It's very hit or miss.... Having an HDMI to your PC is way better. And cheaper. Maybe once hackers fix all the ludicrous functionality gaffs..... My advice: wait to buy till it's useful.
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It's by far the best netflix streaming experience I've had.
It looks great in 1080p, and I don't have to use yet another remote control to navigate a clunky interface from 10 feet away.
I'm very pleased with it and it will only get better as more developers add support to their applications.
Right now... Not worth $35, however long term once we get Pandora, HBO go, etc support. Then I believe it will be a perfect media device. Am I disappointed with mine? No. Do I use it often? Yes. My only gripe is the lack of app support and some bugginess when streaming from chrome.
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The way they showed it work on Google's press conference. It was almost instant mine doesn't work like that. It sometimes takes a little while to load. And it seems to slow down the netflix app on my phone. Anyone else experience this?
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I'm with you guys. I have a Mac Mini running XBMC and after that kind of an experience, this is a pretty big let down. I have been eyeing an Ouya running XBMC for a while now, and I was hoping to have that modded onto this, but I don't think that's going to happen now.
Furthermore, format support is really not there for such a single purpose device, it no doubt has the horsepower to decode more. I was hopeful when I found I could stream stuff directly to it without some sort of transcoding, but instantly disappointed with no AC3 audio, which is a bit of a deal breaker.
Yatse on my Android phone with some sort of XBMC remote is a lot more up my alley. I suppose this is nice for Netflix, which I can't get on there, but I have an XBox currently capable of doing it.
One last thing, my Chromecast interferes with my over the air signal. I don't know why or how, but if that sucker is plugged in anywhere close to my TV, no over the air channels receive at all. Mind you, I already have plenty of wifi, bluetooth, and other wireless gadgets over there.
Waiting for more dev support
I have Logitech Revue (which is just awesome since I got it for 99bucks). I love that it has physical keyboard, and plays everything that Chromecast does and more and has better controls (thanks to the keyboard). Also,Chromecast currently does not support live streaming on youtube, which sucks. The main reason I purchased it was I got 3 months free Netflix (which I am a member anyway) and the possible dev support in future. I pretty much knew what I was buying, so did not have any more expectations.
Am ok with it
its not the jesus streamer but it covers 97% of what i would like it to do. Changing to mp4 isn't deal breaker. streams well enough from youtube and excellently from netflix. hopfully more to come
I have mine connected to our office TV (second of 2 TVs in our house). That TV does not have a cable box connected to it because we could not justify the cost of the cable box for the limited amount that we would use it. I did get a Roku 3 for that TV but returned it the day before Chromecast was announced because it was having trouble staying connected to our network. Chromecast does exactly what I want it do do. I can start streams from any of our devices and and I have had no issues (other than a minor installation hiccup). I would like other services to work with it like HBO Go and MLB.TV, but those should be coming and I am content for now. There are a lot of little things that could be improved to make this an exceptional product, but it is still a very god product as it presently stands.
Actually no, onscreen controls are NOT obviously better than dinking around with a tablet.
everyone needs to wake up, a roku is triple the price of this thing, you can't buy a ipod or hell a watch that can do any of what this can do for 35.00. in a simple term this is a Netflix/youtube streamer. routers, modems, download speeds are all going to impact things. I have a Roku 2 XS , Roku is clunky and unpolished. I don't care who you are but Roku is no speed demon, it does a ok job at 50 bucks I got on a accomidation. Chromecast is working for me like the demo. I have a beefed up Asus router, I'm about 4 feet from my router with my tv and I run Cat 6 across all my connections. Chrome cast is fast and snappy. My setup was smooth too. Everyone is going to have a different experience. The only thing close to this is a raspberry PI. at 35.00 I may want the Pi for other things but for playing my content you won't find any streamer with the hardware or Dev support community this little device has. It's one of a kind whether you choose to accept that or not. a plex plugin is in the works also. It's all simple I can buy a 200 dollar nexus 7 or a 330 dollar ipad mini. build quality will be a bit better on the ipad the camera sharper. and more accessories and gadgets. so why to I get the nexus 7? because anyone can buy a ipad if you had the money and 2 the open experience. I can't crack open roku and flash a new OS. with chromecast it's endless since chrome browser can have anything built on it making it your own.
Mine works fine out the box, no issues. I can't see how anyone can complain about the out-the-box features. It IS lacking features, which is why I wasn't gonna buy one. But once I realized the possibilities and the fact that it was only around eleven dollars after the Netflix promo, I snapped one up on faith that Google would open it up to things like what Koush is doing. But even if that never happens, I can't complain. I'm still left with a painless way to use services on my TV that I use everyday.
Long story short, if you have real issues getting to work, your complaints are valid. But if you bought one and you're unsatisfied with the features, you have no one to blame but yourself.
I have an old TV & stereo in my garage / workshop that I wanted to project to from my phone, mainly for the Google Play Music app. I used to use an Airport Express but switched to Android so that was no longer an option. For me, Chromecast is awesome. I had to get an adapter to connect the audio to the stereo, but the Chromecast + Adapter was still cheaper than the Airport Express was. I was looking for something similar to Airplay and for me this was by far the best option. No, it's not an HTPC or even a Roku, but if you realize it's a dumb stick aimed at people who have no idea what anyvody on XDA is talking about, it's a great little device.
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We all know that Chromecast has the ability to play local files directly from a computer, tablet, or phone. Why they are holding out we don't really know... but they sure let Apple beat them to the punch IMHO... via Mavericks you can now mirror your entire screen to your TV through apple TV. With your phone and iPad as well I believe. I know Google saw this coming... why they didn't try and steal Apple's thunder and release this a while back could be a big mistake. I suddenly have Apple envy.
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We all know that Chromecast has the ability to play local files directly from a computer, tablet, or phone. Why they are holding out we don't really know... but they sure let Apple beat them to the punch IMHO... via Mavericks you can now mirror your entire screen to your TV through apple TV. With your phone and iPad as well I believe. I know Google saw this coming... why they didn't try and steal Apple's thunder and release this a while back could be a big mistake. I suddenly have Apple envy.
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The Nexus 5 is rumored (ha!) to include Miracast, but this article sort of spells out the current state of 'mirroring', which is different than Chromecast..
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/25/4753264/is-the-airplay-killer-already-dead
edit: Miracast looks to be a built-in feature in kitkat 4.4...not just the N5.
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We all know that Chromecast has the ability to play local files directly from a computer, tablet, or phone.
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Tablet or phone?
It did, it doesn't now, we hope it may again.
Why they are holding out we don't really know... but they sure let Apple beat them to the punch IMHO... via Mavericks you can now mirror your entire screen to your TV through apple TV. With your phone and iPad as well I believe. I know Google saw this coming... why they didn't try and steal Apple's thunder and release this a while back could be a big mistake. I suddenly have Apple envy.
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Get a fast pc and screen cast. Chromecast does it.
I've been through the DLNA craziness (and still use it lol) and I don't intend to repeat it with Miracast.
I can screen cast my phone just by buying a $100 HTC Media Link device - which, I won't.
My old MHL rig removes the convenience of control from my couch but it's cheap and works very well.
I'm sure that an iPhone and Apple TV work great together. If that's what you want, cool.
I'm still interested in Chromecast just for internet content. Different strokes amigo.
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The Nexus 5 is rumored (ha!) to include Miracast, but this article sort of spells out the current state of 'mirroring', which is different than Chromecast..
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/25/4753264/is-the-airplay-killer-already-dead
edit: Miracast looks to be a built-in feature in kitkat 4.4...not just the N5.
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Android started supporting miracast in 4.2.
My Nexus 4 can Miiracast. It works. I would like Chromecast do also do this. I have to switch between too many devices in order to successfully keep cable at bay. Right now Roku, Chromecast, Push2tv, Appletv and Pips Xios. Someday one will do it all. Roku well underway.
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Android started supporting miracast in 4.2.
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I *thought* my N4 did, but wasn't certain never having tried it. Good to know!
Miracast is the technology that allows mirroring your screen. It's an industry standard that is supported on Windows 8.1 and Android 4.2+. Some devices like the Nenux 10 didn't get it until 4.3. Chromecast is not for mirroing, although it would be nice to have all these features in one package it's not what Chromecast is designed for. I have Miracast and Chromecast. Once Chromecast SDK is out of beta and developers release apps it will be way better then mirroring although there are cases where mirroring is required to achieve the results you want (i.e. mirror screen of an app) but for media purposes Chromecast is the ticket. Not if Google would just release the SDK out of beta...
Apple has a controlled environment so they can release something quicker as there are less variables to deal with however I would much rather wait for an industry standard solution then have to use an Apple device and be bound by Apple's BS rules!
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The Nexus 5 is rumored (ha!) to include Miracast, but this article sort of spells out the current state of 'mirroring', which is different than Chromecast..
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/25/4753264/is-the-airplay-killer-already-dead
edit: Miracast looks to be a built-in feature in kitkat 4.4...not just the N5.
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Nexus 4 came with Miracast out if the box. The chromecast team is rumored to be working on it.
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Nexus 4 came with Miracast out if the box. The chromecast team is rumored to be working on it.
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As stated android already supports mirracast. instead of appletv by a 50 dollar widi and you can mirror you android or a laptop.
That said I agree google needs to release their SDK soon.
Airplay Mirroring has been available since the last version of Mac OS X (Mountain Lion) and works like wireless display (extending or mirroring desktop). Airplay Mirroring can also be done with iOS devices with A5 or greater processor. Nexus 4 (and Android 4.2) introduced Miracast, which allows mirroring but through a WiFi Direct (peer to peer). As others have mentioned, Windows 8.1 has also added Miracast, but Intel WiDi (wireless display) 3.5+ is compatible with Miracast, also. Airplay runs though your router with Miracast is a WiFi Direct connection (meaning your range is limited by the distance of the device and both devices need a Miracast-certified WiFi adapter .. no wired devices)
Hey guys, I have two TVs that don't seem to have HDMI cec so it wont turn on my TV or switch inputs. One is fairly old and a new one is a Westinghouse so I guess it was to cheap to have it. I was wondering if there was some kind of adapter to enable cec on non cec TVs?
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r.storm85 said:
Hey guys, I have two TVs that don't seem to have HDMI cec so it wont turn on my TV or switch inputs. One is fairly old and a new one is a Westinghouse so I guess it was to cheap to have it. I was wondering if there was some kind of adapter to enable cec on non cec TVs?
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If you give us the make and model of your TVs then maybe we can determine for sure if they do or don't
While it's technically possible if you had some kind of HDMI interpreter/sniffer for the CEC commands and a variety of home-automation mechanisms for handling the necessary IR blasting, short answer is you're extremely unlikely to see this as a commodity-produced product, or even as a small-production product.
It's far easier and more economical to get a newer TV that supports CEC, so there's little market for such a device.
Well the old one is a 40" Rca that is about 4 years old, not sure the model. And the new one is a 40 inch westinghouse dwm40f1g1
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Well the old one is a 40" Rca that is about 4 years old, not sure the model. And the new one is a 40 inch westinghouse dwm40f1g1
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Page 12 of your Westinghouse's manual seems to at least say they're aware HDMI can carry control.
HDMI plug which replaces the HDMI connection allows transfer of all audio/video/control signals through one cable only.
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Then again, there's obviously a mistake there with the HDMI replacing... HDMI, so confidence is a little shaken, heh.
You are using wall power for the Chromecast, rather than the TV's USB port, right?
Not going to find anything that will enable HDMI-CEC as it is has much to do with the wiring of the HDMI port and Internal circuitry.
Even if you found a device to convert CEC into an IR blast it would only work if the CCast was plugged into it which would be a waste of money just to get a Chromecast to turn on a TV.
If your going to spend that kind of money go get a full IR over IP Blaster for the whole system which should come with a control panel you can use on your Tablet as well. (either via App or HTML)
Much better investment if you ask me.
I should point out though that the price of a IR over IP blaster is almost half what a typical 40" TV with HDMI-CEC goes for! LOL
Ya using the wall power.
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Asphyx said:
I should point out though that the price of a IR over IP blaster is almost half what a typical 40" TV with HDMI-CEC goes for! LOL
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Yup, add the time required to configure (or pay someone) and you're at a new TV. But everyone's time is worth different amounts to them.
Me, I'd probably gift the old TV to relatives.
bhiga said:
Yup, add the time required to configure (or pay someone) and you're at a new TV. But everyone's time is worth different amounts to them.
Me, I'd probably gift the old TV to relatives.
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Yes but if the IR blaster is set up the right way you can have loads of fun scaring the hell out of Babysitters and Maids who are slacking off and Watching your TV when they should be dusting! LOL
Fun for the Whole Family!
Hi,
I have buy a chromecast ultra at the airport yesterday. I have try to connect it to my TV without success.
At the first boot, I have a black screen on my TV and my android phone with google home apps saying that their is an update for my Chromecast ultra.
Now, if I make a factory reset or press the reset button I get this :
- On the TV, I can see a blue screen with Chromecast Ultra and a yellow circle. After a few seconds, the chromecast seems reboot, the screen become black and the LED on the chromecast is blinking in white.
- I can configure the chromecast using google home apps or the chrome extension. After the configuration, the screen on the TV is always black and the LED on the chromecast ultra is white and fix.
You can see all of this on the video below :
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9YcqL1nFiDaXzBBOWRGR3A2clk
I have only one HDMI port on the TV and I don't know the manufacturer. Devices like SOny PS3 work on my TV using HDMI. I have disconnect and reconnect all but it doesn't change anything.
Google say that some old TV are not compatible with their device. Can you help me to solve the problem ?
Thanks for your help.
Is your TV a 4K TV, the ultra is for 4K TVs?
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My TV isn't 4k. It's an old TV.
I have buy the Ultra version because the store only have this version.
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Is your TV a 4K TV, the ultra is for 4K TVs?
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Yes it may be meant for 4K TVs but it should still display on lower resolutions as well.
My suggestion is to bring the unit back to where you bought it and let them test it on one of their monitors and see if they get screen.
It is very possible you just got a lemon unit.
I can't bring back the unit. I have buy it in an airport during holiday.
I test it on the new TV of a friend, I get a picture. I hope that the device can work on old TV or on TV that is not smart.
Is there a solution to make the ChromeCast Ultra compatible with my old TV ? Is there a configuration file that I can edit or an adaptator that I can put between the ChromeCast and my TV ?
Thanks,
villegente said:
I can't bring back the unit. I have buy it in an airport during holiday.
I test it on the new TV of a friend, I get a picture. I hope that the device can work on old TV or on TV that is not smart.
Is there a solution to make the ChromeCast Ultra compatible with my old TV ? Is there a configuration file that I can edit or an adaptator that I can put between the ChromeCast and my TV ?
Thanks,
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The age of the TV doesn't matter...If it has an HDMI input then it should display in whatever resolution the TV supports.
Since it works on other TVs the only thing left is that the Input to the TV is bad.
Is there another input you can try it on?
Bad news, your TV is too old since it works on your friends TV.
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Is there another input you can try it on?
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No. I have only 1 HDMI port on the TV. The other input is SCART.
villegente said:
No. I have only 1 HDMI port on the TV. The other input is SCART.
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So this is a French TV? (which could explain your problem.)
What Airport did you buy this Chromecast?
I'm going to bet that you have a SECAM TV but the CCast may only supports NTSC or PAL.
If you bought this in the US it is possible it won't support a SECAM TV but the UK version might since PAL and SECAM are very similar.
It's a combination of things working against you here...Yes the TV is a bit old and not very forgiving in what signals it will accept. coupled with the fact that France, and the Former Soviet countries were the only ones who used the SECAM standard where most of Europe uses PAL and the rest of the world uses NTSC.
The cheapest solution is probably to buy a new TV as there is no guarantee that any CCast will work with that one.
You could probably buy a PAL adapter and convert the signal but that is likely to cost as much as a new TV will.
Thanks for your answer.
I don't know if my TV is Secam or Pal. I only use it with my Sony PS3.
I have buy the ChromeCast in Australia.
villegente said:
Thanks for your answer.
I don't know if my TV is Secam or Pal. I only use it with my Sony PS3.
I have buy the ChromeCast in Australia.
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If it has SCART it is probably only SECAM....
The Aussie CCast is definitely PAL compatible.
I'm guessing your TV was one of the tweener models many people got stuck with in the time where SD was being phased out and Digital standards were not yet set.
Hello,
I have the same issue here and it seems that the chromecast is outputting at 1080p when ur TVs are only going up to 480p
Not nice to mention this risk on google side