Hello friends, I'm sorry to improve open multiple threads on htc 8X, but I want to know some things that I think are important about htc 8x.first, how to flash original stock rom{not reset phone}, else how to install drop files on device and third, I 'd like to write in this topic people have htc 8x and what do about the phone.
Thanks in advance and again I apologize.
aSpirit81 said:
how to flash original stock rom{not reset phone}
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You should find some roms here, with instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2094084
aSpirit81 said:
how to install drop files on device
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I'm not sure what you mean by 'install drop files on device', I'll assume you meant placing files on the phone (using a USB cable) and then installing them. This is something you can't do right now.
Since we're talking about an HTC 8X, which doesn't have an SD card slot to install packaged apps (XAPs), your current only option to install anything on the phone is the Deployment tool (from the WP8 SDK), which is limited to unencrypted apps (so apps from the store wont work), and you can't have more than 3 of them installed at a time.
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and third, I 'd like to write in this topic people have htc 8x and what do about the phone.
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Wow, you ate a lot of words from there, I'll assume you meant "I'd like those people, who have an HTC 8X phone to write what they think about the device."
I own one. I was pretty happy with it, however I upgraded to another phone since. It's a really good phone, slim, light, has a ton of nice features, easy to use, etc. If you're coming from another platform be prepared to let go of some stuff you were used to having, as Windows Phone works on some slightly different philosophies. But there are a lot of ways a Windows Phone is simply better than other OS-es, in things like: UI responsiveness and speed, the amount of features packed into a device, and the live tiles are something I simply couldn't live without anymore.
Especially now, since the 8X's price dropped drastically, I still consider it a high-end phone, at least until the next wave of 5 and 6" phones come out.
As this is an HTC 8x related question mostly, It'd have been better placed in this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-8x
Cheers
i try with rom update utillity,but got error 270,image corrupted.i try everything,but nothing...i dont know how to restore retail rom on my htc...
just one post ?
i want to flash stock europe 1.00 rom on my htc 8x,beacuse my cid is htc_032....btw,got error 338 PK_VERIFY_ERROR,says please flash key image retail...i dont know what this mean...pls help me.
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We all know there are various Carrier versions of the 'Kaiser' out in the field and all seem to have different problems (mainly caused by carrier applied cabs!). It appears the US 'Tilt' guys got the short end of the stick...
But before you throw your phone in the bin, check out the Mindsoft site and download their trial...Just see what rubbish you have left in your 'Kaiser' from all those tested cabs and carrier bloatware.
Remember, even our PC's need a clean up at times!!
OH, and before anyone jumps in, This has nothing to do with the so called display driver ommission so don't even bother to get on your soapbox here....
BTW, install the VGA version from the zip file.
I use Memmaid. I been using Memmaid since the 8125 days. Works great/
Good on ya!!!
My kinda person....
The first thing I did after getting my Tilt was install the HTC ROM on it. I didn't even bother trying out the Tiger Woods demo. I tried the pool game and couldn't use the controls. Isn't there a way to prevent the crap from installing the first time you boot it?
US "Tilt" Guy
Farsquidge said:
We all know there are various Carrier versions of the 'Kaiser' out in the field and all seem to have different problems (mainly caused by carrier applied cabs!). It appears the US 'Tilt' guys got the short end of the stick...
But before you throw your phone in the bin, check out the Mindsoft site and download their trial...Just see what rubbish you have left in your 'Kaiser' from all those tested cabs and carrier bloatware.
Remember, even our PC's need a clean up at times!!
OH, and before anyone jumps in, This has nothing to do with the so called display driver ommission so don't even bother to get on your soapbox here....
BTW, install the VGA version from the zip file.
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So as a "Tilt" guy I find your posts very annoying. I don't want to start one of your little wars that you seem to want to start on every thread you are in. Maybe instead of directing a thread toward Tilt users you should direct it towards people that don't bother doing anything themselves. Or people that deem themselves not worthy to think. Personally I have installed just about every ROM out and tried them each with the software I prefer to run. And yes MemMaid happens to be one of those programs. So instead of insulting people because their Tytn2 happens to say ATT on it and it doesnt have a camera on the front of it maybe you should direct all of the negative things you have to say into a more positive outlet. And just so you don't feel inclined to respond to this thread I will not be reading this thread again. Thank you for your time.
Farsquidge said:
We all know there are various Carrier versions of the 'Kaiser' out in the field and all seem to have different problems (mainly caused by carrier applied cabs!). It appears the US 'Tilt' guys got the short end of the stick...
But before you throw your phone in the bin, check out the Mindsoft site and download their trial...Just see what rubbish you have left in your 'Kaiser' from all those tested cabs and carrier bloatware.
Remember, even our PC's need a clean up at times!!
OH, and before anyone jumps in, This has nothing to do with the so called display driver ommission so don't even bother to get on your soapbox here....
BTW, install the VGA version from the zip file.
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Why do you say install the VGA version? Shouldn't we install the QVGA version?
Wilhelm said:
The first thing I did after getting my Tilt was install the HTC ROM on it. I didn't even bother trying out the Tiger Woods demo. I tried the pool game and couldn't use the controls. Isn't there a way to prevent the crap from installing the first time you boot it?
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My Kaiser arrives today (that's why I'm up early ) so I haven't had time to check it out yet, but I expect it works in a similar way to the Hermes.
With the Hermes, most (or all) carrier specific apps were loaded from extended ROM. This can be edited (if the ext rom is unlocked and unhidden) which allows you to select which bloatware is loaded. You need to edit the config.ini file to say what is and isn't loaded - it's quite straightforward, but sorry I can't find the posts which give examples.
You'll need to check this out on your own for now 'cos I don't have my Kaiser to check if this is the same - unless someone more experienced can say whether this is the same or different for Kaiser/Hermes.
Hey everyone. I have had my Tytn2 for about 6 months now and am generally displeased with the speed of its operation. As it is my first Windows Mobile phone(v6.1) I hoped that it could supersede my older non smartphones but i am now currently doubting my investment. The idea of system optimisation and sub standard/non existant drivers has recentely come to my attention by surfing the internet trying to find the reasoning behind its sluggish operation. As i am not up to date with many technical terms used on this website and the reasonings behind the slowness of it i am making my post fairly general. I have reaslised though that there are things out there that can boost its speed and operation and make it an overall better phone.
If anyone has some favourite, worthwhile or must have tweaks i can do to my phone it would be much appreciated if you could fill me in, send me a link or generally point me in the right direction.
Cheers for your help in advance and thanks to the people out there who are working on these such things
Put a ROM on it that isn't loaded down with ATT bloatware, and HTC's slowness. You'll need to install a HardSPL on your device, SuperCID unlock your device, flash a radio, and choose a ROM to install on your device.
Flashing Your First ROM
Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocking Thread
HardSPL Thread
The Ultimate Radio Thread
Kaiser ROM Development Forum
thankyou for your post. Excuse my ignnorance but what does a ROM actually do to the phone? I have no issues with doing so, i just really dont undertand what it does/the reasoning behind it. And also a radio? i have searched threads but there is so much about installing them etc but not many explinations on their workings. cheers k-semler
ok.. i have been looking around some more and found some more answers to my questions...so it basically boosts the performance? so once this is done what can i load onto my phone to make this all worthwhile?And also once this is done does is load as per normal, just faster? Or does the phone have a whole new layout etc. that the creator made?
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thankyou for your post. Excuse my ignnorance but what does a ROM actually do to the phone? I have no issues with doing so, i just really dont undertand what it does/the reasoning behind it. And also a radio? i have searched threads but there is so much about installing them etc but not many explinations on their workings. cheers k-semler
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The ROM is equivilant to the OS on a desktop computer, the radio allows communication via cellular, wi-fi, and GPS communications. The HardSPL is equivilant to the MBR on a desktop computer, and the Super CID is equivilant to the BIOS on a computer. (A locked CID will only allow you to install signed ROM's from either your telephone service provider, or HTC, while after a SuperCID unlock, you will be able to flash any ROM you so desire.)
afaseth said:
ok.. i have been looking around some more and found some more answers to my questions...so it basically boosts the performance? so once this is done what can i load onto my phone to make this all worthwhile?And also once this is done does is load as per normal, just faster? Or does the phone have a whole new layout etc. that the creator made?
cheers
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The easiest way to describe it is if you went and bought a name brand computer, when you initially set up the OS, (or use the recovery discs that came with the computer), it will install the OS along with a ton of bloatware, half-functional trial ware, and other unwanted software. However, if you were to boot off of a Windows retail disc, you would have the same operating system, but without all the unnecessary software that the retailer included as an added "bonus". So yes, the computer will operate faster due to not being loaded down by unnessecary software.
Yes, once a new ROM is flashed to your phone, and it was a successful flash, it will boot up as normal, and go through the customization process. After the customization process, it will soft-reset the device, and your phone will boot as normal. It will be as fresh as it would be had it come out of the box that way. Yes, this means that you will lose your contacts list, emails, and everything else you have stored on the phone's main memory. (just like you would lose everything on your HDD if you wiped out your OS and installed it again).
To back up your contacts, simply copy the file PIM.VOL from the root of your device to a microSD card, or your desktop. After you have flashed the phone, rename the new PIM.VOL on the root of the device to PIM.OLD, and copy over your archived PIM.VOL to your phone. Soft reset your device, and boot it up like normal. After the phone restarts, verify you have your contacts list restored, and then delete the file PIM.OLD from your device. The same goes for any other data you may wish to preserve. Copy it off to an SD card, or your desktop computer. After you have flashed your phone, simply copy back all data you have archived. You will obviously need to re-install any applications you wish to have on your phone.
With a customized ROM, you can get anything from a bare-minimum install, (just the OS and nothing more), to a completely new layout with TouchFlo3D, Manala 2D, HTC Home, etc. Look at the ROM development forum, decide what you want your phone to do, and go with it. There are also betas for Windows Mobile 6.5 if you wish to try it, as well as ROM's with PIE 8.5, Opera, and virtually any combination you could possibly want to customize the layout of your phone. The phone will be as a completely different device if that is what you so desire. As far as customisation programs, look into Advanced Configurator 3.3 or Kaiser Tweak. You can also install a registry editor and do the edits manually if you so desire.
thanks for that, that simplifies it somewhat. Should i be attempting to do this to my phone in fear of a major screwup if i lack in depth undertanding of what i am actually doing? i can download the files and follow steps and probably get it right but if something goes wrong i will have not a clue of how to fix it or what i did wrong. Thats my only fear.... what your thoughts?
also can you recommend any decent ROMs for a first timer/do you know anyone i can ask?
RE: Fears
Yeah, first time flashing is pretty scary. Believe me, I know all too well how nerve wracking flashing ROMs can be the first couple of times. Just make sure you follow the directions to a "T" and you should be fine. =]
But, if by some freak accident or some screw-up on your part...there ARE a few fixes depending on what broke. There are various threads in the ROM area on this particular thing.
With that being said, just follow the flashing instructions, make sure you backup your PIM, and then pick yourself a good ROM! =]
For first-timers I'd go with either a standard 6.0-6.1 ROM or something by Dutty or L26. It's been so long and so many flashes since my first that I've honestly forgotten which one I started w/ but Dutty & L26 both make wonderful ROMs and I've had various builds by both.
Best of luck!
i am with 3 mobile: does this influence which ROM i chose. Or is this dealt with during the unlocking phase?
That is dealt with during the unlocking step. After you unlock your device, it will not matter who your carrier is. You could insert a SIM from Hong Kong if you wanted to.
It's an HTC 5800. From what I understand it's the S730 but they renamed it or something for Solo Mobile in Canada.
I saw someones device information and mine didn't match up. Most notably the CPU is a QUALCOMM(R) 7500, rather then a 7200 as I saw posted.
Could anyone give me a little more information on this? I'm new to smartphones and would love to get into them a bit more. Plus, if I were to ever flash the firmware or whatever, I would really need to know what model phone I have.
http://www.cellphones.ca/cell-phones/compare/636,674/
They seems to have the exact same hardware. Slightly different software loaded onto Windows Mobile.
Could I use firmware from this board and apply it to my phone? This is my major concern.
I have the same phone, SMT5800 LIBR100 HTC 5800 whatever you want to call it.... I have been trying to install custom ROM on it too....doesnt work...
I'm starting to think i should give up...
no good SMT5800 Libra
I have the same phone, LIBR100 HTC 5800 whatever you want to call it.... I have been trying to install custom ROM on it too....doesnt work...
I'm starting to think i should give up...
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I have the same phone, SMT5800 LIBR100 HTC 5800 whatever you want to call it.... I have been trying to install custom ROM on it too....doesnt work...
I'm starting to think i should give up...
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you guys got the HTC S720, here in Canada it's on a network that is CDMA only and they disabled file transfer thru bluetooth, a2dp (sp?) etc....
slightly different design than the s730 it is very closely related
I have had a good read in the forum and I am still missing the big picture.
I currently have a generic UK from a flash I did several months ago and my phone works like a super star. However, I am very interested in updating my X1. I have tried to update the old fashioned way (se update service), but i get an error message stating 'device not recognized', or something to that effect. I am guessing this is due to the generic uk flash.
I have no problem doing the update myself, but I really need some help. Could someone either send me a link or explain step by step (like I was five years old) exactly what I need to do.
Also, I am using a new pc (vista) with WM device center 32bit already installed. So I will need any files for complete update.
Lastly, are there any other updates worth the time?
Thank you very much in advance
I had the same "device not recognised" issue in SEUS. Forever.
Are you logged in as a user? If so, log in as the administrator - when I did that it worked a treat first time!
I have the same problem
Hi there,
I have the exact same problem as fm1776 with theese only 2 differences:
1: I have never flashed my rom, it is from the first batch made bought first day of release in Sweden (where it usually comes early for Sony Ericsson)
2: My Vista is 64-bit. (Which should not matter because it´s a separate 64-bit installer, I think we can forget this)
I am Administrator so unfortunately that did not work for me, also the update service is running as admin.
My Mobile device center works perfectly and syncs my x1 flawlessly since first install.
I have read nearly every single thread on the internet related to this trying to get this worked out since early this year with no success and now decided to post.
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling everything from the unknown device in device manager to Mobile device center including the extra driver. I have also tried all combinations of settings in the MDC regarding allowing usb-connections etc etc... I have tried 3 different cables on different USB-ports and different USB-hubs (the internal "usb-root-hubs" in the list view) and also have the exact same problem on my other computer. (Laptop running exactly same OS). No windows updates missing and antivirus has also been disabled for troubleshooting. Update service reinstalled 5 times +, sometimes all theese steps at the same time.
Please please someone help me, I work IT-support and have solved problems like this at least 20 times over the last few years even the early M600 problems. But this time, it it just out of my league. I have no idea what to do no more and it seem to work for everyone beside me and fm above - if the ordinary sync is working that is, otherwise the net is full of theese problems it seems.
My phone really needs this with its constant different exe-crashes and sometimes slow behaviour.
It would also be interesting to hear if there are more people with the exact same problem. Fully working MDC-sync but unknown device in device manager (USB-device not recognized) when trying to upgrade.
In hopes of a resolution for this otherwise great phone which I use to it´s full extent 16 hrs a day...
/ McKeen
well you could just bypass SEUS completely and download any rom from this forum (be it a cooked one or an official one) then flash it through the Memory card method!
How can you flash if your volume down button does not work?
Just want to say thank you Jonny for your input.
My Xperia is all of a sudden running Windows Mobile 6.5 and it´s smoother than ever =)
I used the SD-card update as you suggested and it worked out the first time after some reading...
/ McKeen
Fast ROM
If you have not tried it yet, I suggest that you try the ROM created by Smaberg and NRGZ28 Energy ROM and i bet you that you'll be amazed at how fast and beautiful their ROM's are.
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If you have not tried it yet, I suggest that you try the ROM created by Smaberg and NRGZ28 Energy ROM and i bet you that you'll be amazed at how fast and beautiful their ROM's are.
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Thank you for the tip, it was so many roms to choose from it was hard to make a choice.
I´m gonna try those out for sure!
{EDIT: Oh my GOD! This nrg-creation energy is the best thing I have ever seen in any technical device - EVER!!! Thanks so much for that tip Laurence! Never tried the Smaberg so no disrespect to his creation }
/ McKeen
McKeen77 said:
Thank you for the tip, it was so many roms to choose from it was hard to make a choice.
I´m gonna try those out for sure!
{EDIT: Oh my GOD! This nrg-creation energy is the best thing I have ever seen in any technical device - EVER!!! Thanks so much for that tip Laurence! Never tried the Smaberg so no disrespect to his creation }
/ McKeen
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No problem. There's another update being tested right now and i'm sure it would be much more welcome for all of us.
i just received my G1, well 1.6 was installed, but: No WLAN, No SD, No Bluetooth and no File-Transfer with Win7 x64. So i'm thinking of a flash, but how?
I wanted to get diagnostics mode, but what is the capture-key?
any other possibilities to rescue this device? (I think, the SD-Card driver was somehow deleted. Tried a software-Wipe, but it didn't help.
I hope someone can help me.
Thx in advance.
Well thats sorta like asking to get into a box sealed off with ducktape using the mailbox=p. You are going to need an sdcard so you can root it. Find any microsdcard and load up rc29, root it, then flash some custom firmware on top. If you don't have an sdcard, then you can't set up root therefore no new roms. The only thing that would work without an sdcard is ADB, but you need root to do something meaningful like pushing an app, etc..
I got similar problem.. My SD card slot seems to be dead. Android and recovery as well, doesn't see any SD card slot so the SD card can't be mounted. And yes, I've already tried with another card. No luck.
So there's my question that OP already asked: Is there any way to flash update.zip without sdcard?
Short answer: No
Long answer: you can change specific parts of a rom without an sdcard (kernel, apps), but not an entire rom or update.zip.
That's what I thought... Unfortunately. So I guess it's time to buy a Sapphire.
i have a program for windows called android commander. it has the option to flash an update. i dont know if this will help but it might. i found it on XDA somewhere. i just dont remember where.
edit: it also has some other really cool features, like push and pull and copy. great if you want to push an apk to the system/app folder
edit here is the link for download of the of the version that works for me http://androidcommander.cyf.pl/?file_id=1
ok, gonna try that android-commander.
If even a hard-reset doesn't bring up the 3 issues, i think, these are Hardware-Errors. (it COULD also be, that the "drivers" from these parts have been removed/deleted from the rom by the previous owner, but a hard-reset WOULD restore the missing "drivers" or am i wrong? (i have not much knowledge about Linux, i'm more a Windows-Freak.)
I mean is it possible to "remove" parts of the "drivers" from the ROM and the Flash/EEPROM that even after restore the part would still be missing?
Until it's rooted you can't make major firmware/bootloader modifications just by sticking a usb cable into it.
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Until it's rooted you can't make major firmware/bootloader modifications just by sticking a usb cable into it.
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you mean "unless it's rooted", 'cause i think, it's not rooted (how to find out, if it is?)
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you mean "unless it's rooted", 'cause i think, it's not rooted (how to find out, if it is?)
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Turn the phone off, hold down the CAMERA button read off the top four lines.
That will tell you if it is using a custom spl.
Alternatively you could go in the rom and type su in the terminal, that would also show if it's rooted.
the booloader info sais:
DREA110 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.96.0000
CPLD-4
RADIO-2.22.19.261
Sep 2 2000
i tried around with the Android-Commander as said before, i also connected the phone but I was not able to copy ANY data to the phone or create any folder anywhere (so not even a custom ringtone or wallpaper), for rooting is a SD-card required, which is not useable due to (maybe) hardware defect, so i ended up the following:
I agreed with the seller to reship the G1 and he refunds my money.
From that short time playing with G1 and Android, i say as conclusion:
Well, the touchscreen works far better than any Windows-Phone, but the Compatibility with Windows is nearly completely missing - and so some for me required aspects of that phone. So i'll just buy another Windows-Device. (i's easier to flash, spl or unlock and you have better and easier possibilites or modifying/customizing your phone.
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well if you would have recieved a working phone you might have a different opinion of android. i have used windows mobile as well as blackberry and simbian too. all of them have their good points but i found android to be the easiest to use and to customize(as long as the device works). but good luck
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saprano614 said:
well if you would have recieved a working phone you might have a different opinion of android. i have used windows mobile as well as blackberry and simbian too. all of them have their good points but i found android to be the easiest to use and to customize(as long as the device works). but good luck
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that might be true, but pay more than 150 for a phone, I only use as secondary phone for a few internet/data-activities is, considered the fact, that in 6 weeks, I'm unemployed again, a bit much to ask for, either a complete new phone or a cheap (ie less than 150 bucks) phone, that has wlan, 3g and a hardware-keyboard - rest is irrelevant - that is being used as secondary phone.
Sure, if the G1 would have been fully working, it would have been a nice device (not a replacement to my Xperia, of course, as the G1 has a minus in resolution compared to WVGA), but so is only to note: if you want a cheap Android-Phone, wait another 3-6 months, there are a lot of them coming out and so the elder ones (magic and g1) should go down in price a bit.
Sometimes, prices on ebay drop around 50 bucks within 3 months - checked on that.
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