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Issues with fastcardtech

Hi to all,
I want to share with you what appened last month with fastcardtech site... I already bought a zopo zp100 and I was really satisfy about service so I decide to bought a new one but white.
Reading internet site I saw that two models are available but I was interested only in the completely white one so I ask availability at support center of fastcardtech that confirm by mail the availability.
After two day I release the payment and in a week the phone was shipped.
Where is the problem? The phone received was the other one.
After 1 month they could give me a 3% discount (6USD due to account limitation) on next order that I'll never do cause It's not sure what they will ship.
I didn't report all the mail between us where they wanted to refund (6USD) and after 2 weeks no paiment was released so I asked and they wrote back to call support center...
I'm writing this post cause the site is really cheapest but pay attention cause if there is a problem you'll not have support... In some case you feel victim of a joke...
Bye.
P.S. attacched the chat transcript for all the detail

Sorry for what happened
i faced the same problem they listed a phone with high specification at a high price yet it was just specifications hacked in kernel the phone was not of quality as it was priced i bought it at USD 295 yet other phones of exact spec without hacking kernels were at USD 165 so if you are buying online its better you buy from sites with payments protections like escrow of aliexpress as the product i bought there was real coz it had to wait for my confirmation the payments to be made which force the sellers to be sure of what they are doing.
In fact the item was shipped with very low prices i never requested for which led me to be over taxed as the tax authority had to do it by themselves.

Do NOT FALL VICTIM
THIS WEBSITE>>>fastcardtech.com<<<<<< is BY FAR the most corrupt CHEAP CHINA CELLPHONE website to deal with. They are good at their game, but the end results will have your $$$$ blowing out the window. They lead you on with countless excuses UNTIL YOU GIVE UP..!! And then your out all your money...and even the BAIT of DHL Express Delivery if your stupid enough to believe that.....
I suppose their might be someone out there that actually received something from them, or it is posted online to suppose that may have happened. But I think they have all the bases covered, as they counter any claims and retaliate to cover up their track to LURE MORE SUCKERS LIKE ME...!!
So BEWARE you were warned, unless someone have an actual wants to show their face, NOT CHINESE holding something that proves that this website is legitimate. This is a GRAND SCAM of a website...go ahead and look. Delcious Bait, but DO NOT BITE...Especially HDC Galaxy S III Pro, 8mm thin, yeah...sure....They really like you to bite that big one...and suck out your head.
PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG WITH PICTURES OF YOURSELF, A BOX with a BEAUTIFULLY CLONED CHINA KNOCKOFF and Prove me wrong..THanks..!!

i have read and others have complains for same problems (just google it )
i was about to buy from them but it think i will consider it twice
the posthumous fame[/B] should be re-considered by all Internet Shops

I don't know what to tell everyone, but I ordered from them and didn't have any problem other than I paid $2.99 for them to root the phone which was never done nor refunded.
I used EMS shipping and had my phone within a week; the tracking was a bit wack, but I figured it out and it even worked.
Everything works great on the phone and came as promised. I can't comment on customer service other than they never responded about a refund for the $2.99.
Would I order from them again? Maybe, but you might have to cross your fingers and hope you're lucky but my experience was acceptable.

10 post noobs everywhere!

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rubbering said:
THIS WEBSITE>>>fastcardtech.com<<<<<< is BY FAR the most corrupt CHEAP CHINA CELLPHONE website to deal with. They are good at their game, but the end results will have your $$$$ blowing out the window. They lead you on with countless excuses UNTIL YOU GIVE UP..!! And then your out all your money...and even the BAIT of DHL Express Delivery if your stupid enough to believe that.....
I suppose their might be someone out there that actually received something from them, or it is posted online to suppose that may have happened. But I think they have all the bases covered, as they counter any claims and retaliate to cover up their track to LURE MORE SUCKERS LIKE ME...!!
So BEWARE you were warned, unless someone have an actual wants to show their face, NOT CHINESE holding something that proves that this website is legitimate. This is a GRAND SCAM of a website...go ahead and look. Delcious Bait, but DO NOT BITE...Especially HDC Galaxy S III Pro, 8mm thin, yeah...sure....They really like you to bite that big one...and suck out your head.
PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG WITH PICTURES OF YOURSELF, A BOX with a BEAUTIFULLY CLONED CHINA KNOCKOFF and Prove me wrong..THanks..!!
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Here's one I busted on aPad.tv.com forum; regarding Hyundai T7 Exynos 4 quad-core processor Tablet PC:
me: I ordered 1 a week ago. It was supposed to have been in stock, but when I checked on the status it was still unshipped. I was beginning to wonder if the T7 even existed; so what aPadTVadmin said about them being in stock, makes since now. I guess most of these online stores get all their stuff drop-shipped, am I assuming correct?
aPadTVadmin: I spoke to DP a couple of days ago regarding the T7 for another reason and all T7 units have been shipped out. This was Thursday. If you ordered 1 week ago it would have shipped out nearly same day. I witnessed with my own eyes a large stock of T7 Hyundais being processed for shipping out last time I visited there.
Please give me your order number so I can validate it and check with them for you.
me: BUNCH OF SCAM ARTISTS! I contacted the manufacturer today and found out that they don't even start shipping them until March 7th, 2013. SO THERE'S NO WAY THAT ANYONE EVEN HAS T7'S YET, EXCEPT FOR A FEW ENGINEERING SAMPLES THAT WENT OUT. SO MUCH FOR SEEING THEM WITH YOUR OWN EYES... MORE LIKE LYING OUT OF YOUR OWN MOUTH.
GadgetGreats.com, DealsPrime.com aPadtv; ALL ONE OF THE SAME; SCAMMERS! Also AD PANDAWILL.COM TO THE LIST OF SCAMMERS, INCLUDING EVERBUYING.COM
ALWAYS PAY W/PAYPAL, IN 7 DAYS IF THEY HAVEN'T UPLOADED A TRACEABLE TRACKING #, PAYPAL PUTS A HOLD ON THE PAYMENT,
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icestage said:
hi to all,
i want to share with you what appened last month with fastcardtech site... I already bought a zopo zp100 and i was really satisfy about service so i decide to bought a new one but white.
Reading internet site i saw that two models are available but i was interested only in the completely white one so i ask availability at support center of fastcardtech that confirm by mail the availability.
After two day i release the payment and in a week the phone was shipped.
Where is the problem? The phone received was the other one.
After 1 month they could give me a 3% discount (6usd due to account limitation) on next order that i'll never do cause it's not sure what they will ship.
I didn't report all the mail between us where they wanted to refund (6usd) and after 2 weeks no paiment was released so i asked and they wrote back to call support center...
I'm writing this post cause the site is really cheapest but pay attention cause if there is a problem you'll not have support... In some case you feel victim of a joke...
Bye.
P.s. Attacched the chat transcript for all the detail
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this guy who wrote this is also part of the scam; he want's you think that the company actually ships a good product, while the truth is, what you'll get is an imitation of the product you order, if at all that; these guys are all in cahoots, and they're on every forum & youtube video out there. They are good at what they do & once they ship the inferior product, if you return it, you lost all your money, point blank.

aliexpress.com is the best site to buy tablets/phones from china. they have buyer protection, and the money isn't released from your account till you confirm the device is received and working.

Scam
I ran into the FCT trap too. Should have done some more research beforehand .
I ordered an HDC Note 3 clone from them and paid through Paypal. They provided a Singapore shipping number and the next day told me the phone is out of stock and was not shipped. Meaning a fake shipping number was provided. The same time the same phone is still listed on their website as "in stock" and questions of potential customers are answered.
They told me to choose an alternative phone which I did with another HDC N9002. 35$ more expensive which difference I paid. They did not ship, after a number of reminders they however provided again the same (!) fake shipping number as before. So the item was never ever intended to be shipped. They play for time and money to get over the 45 days to launch a Paypal dispute. So be careful.
Currently a dispute for full refund is ongoing.
Stay away from these scammers!

SCAM artists
I'm also getting countless fake shipping numbers regarding broken tablet that I actually received from them.
Beware of FCT!
They are always delaying with shipping (some items they never ship). Their policy is to provide a bit lower prices than the others at first sight and then add extra fees for nothing and eventually ship the item you ordered when it is already outdated.
Fake shipping numbers are their method of delay.

FCT
I recently ordered from FCT and of course before reading all the forums of countless individuals who have been scammed or dooped by these guys.
Anyway after 2 weeks from placing my order I received a tracking number followed by another tracking number 2 days later (weird), then a week later it was scanned into the U.S, 2 or so more days it actually arrived at my door!!! (bing bong)
I was pretty stoked however, once I opened my package (HDC GT N9000 Note3) one thing was missing ...No stylus!! so after numerous calls to these guys via Skype (preferred and only method to contact them) I finally speak to a man who tells me that if I buy another phone they would include the stylus plus a gift free of charge....wait the phone was advertised to include this?? blah blah something shipping he began to ramble on about.... all n all pointless
I'm now a month into having my phone which appears to be pretty effin exact to the Note3 however yesterday my phone just disconnected from my network and will not re-connect. I cannot reach a soul at this place leaving me with a fancy mini internet tab/paperweight/possibly shooting target..
Basically they were great until I gave them my money and the phone is awesome however customer service is a huge key to running any successful business and this is something they LACK.....
GOOD LUCK!

how do you use ems tracking
beefgalore said:
I don't know what to tell everyone, but I ordered from them and didn't have any problem other than I paid $2.99 for them to root the phone which was never done nor refunded.
I used EMS shipping and had my phone within a week; the tracking was a bit wack, but I figured it out and it even worked.
Everything works great on the phone and came as promised. I can't comment on customer service other than they never responded about a refund for the $2.99.
Would I order from them again? Maybe, but you might have to cross your fingers and hope you're lucky but my experience was acceptable.
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i ordered from fct and i have the ems numbers, how do you track, it always give me no information, also, how long does ems take to deliver ?

MrCompleteownage said:
i ordered from fct and i have the ems numbers, how do you track, it always give me no information, also, how long does ems take to deliver ?
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i actually order a week ago and in Monday they send me a tracking number that says no information also... starting to suspect a bit weird 3 days and no tracking....
Fingers crossed..........
Regards FRZ

[Q] To return or not to return?

I just received by Z3 Compact today but due to the vast reports of glass cracking and buying the phone on sim free with the intention to sell it after 12-24 months, I really don't know whether I should take the risk and keep it since their are many reports of the glass cracking by itself. It's a big shame because I had so much hope for this phone and their are lots of things i love about it such as the following:
Audio huge step up from G2
Feels premium in the hand compared to the G2.
I was impressed with screen detail that I was fooled into thinking it was HD.
Some bad points I notice just from first use:
Screen vibrates when volume high
Icons and text seems to be slightly squeezed in the menu
im worried about all the reports of glass cracking
I've really never been an iPhone fan and prefer a less than 5 inch device so if I return I really don't know where to go from here. I guess there's the Galaxy Alpha but I really don't want to go back to samsung if I could help it (had a galaxy s2 before and it stopped working after 24 months). So if the Z3 Compact is not to be due to manufacturer flaw with glass then where do I go from here? I already sold my G2 and need a phone asap.

There are a few reports of glass cracking by itself as opposed to tens oder hundreds of thousands of units sold, and it seems a bunch of people just jumped the train and claimed theirs did too while it looks like they dropped the phone from the pattern of their cracks, eventually because of the slippery backside.

Iruwen said:
There are a few reports of glass cracking by itself as opposed to tens oder hundreds of thousands of units sold, and it seems a bunch of people just jumped the train and claimed theirs did too while it looks like they dropped the phone from the pattern of their cracks, eventually because of the slippery backside.
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So a bunch of people are lying? I think you should look a little further afield than just this forum. There are so many reports now from multiple sources now that it's becoming hard to deny there is a major flaw with the glass of this phone. From the sound of things if you buy this phone its just a matter of time before your glass will crack. And since I bought my z3c with cash that's a risk I'm not willing to take.

Even if most of the reports were legit, the likeliness of being affected is still negligible considering the amount of units sold. And even if so, most of the cases seem to have been covered by Sony's warranty so far.

Definitely keep it. It's the best non-huge phone on the market right now.
And it IS HD Just not Full HD, but you don't need full HD below 5".

degraaff said:
Definitely keep it. It's the best non-huge phone on the market right now.
And it IS HD Just not Full HD, but you don't need full HD below 5".
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That was my mantra as well for weeks before buying this phone, but what's the point having the best non-huge phone if it's only going to break?
P.S Do you own one?

I would say to keep it. Like the others have said, the number of reports around the glass cracking are very small compared to the number of units sold. Ultimately, it's your decision, but I've been very happy with mine and my suggestion would be for you to keep it.

You can't tell whether it's going to break, and if it does you'll get it repaired under warranty.
It may look horribly, but if all those cracked phones are going to be fixed/exchanged then there is no big deal just few days without it.
Otherwise the phone is fantastic.

wayne_sk said:
You can't tell whether it's going to break, and if it does you'll get it repaired under warranty.
It may look horribly, but if all those cracked phones are going to be fixed/exchanged then there is no big deal just few days without it.
Otherwise the phone is fantastic.
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that's a pretty big deal. not everyone has a backup phone and they don't cross ship like dell. you can't just pop into a sony store for instant refurb replacement like you can with apple, either. microsoft stores are also pretty great about replacing their lumias.
i bought mine with amex, so i have 90 days to evaluate whether or not it will break. if it does, i won't even bother going through sony, judging from the poor customer service and finger pointing people have been mentioning

Iruwen said:
Even if most of the reports were legit, the likeliness of being affected is still negligible considering the amount of units sold. And even if so, most of the cases seem to have been covered by Sony's warranty so far.
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Do you even own one? There are hundreds reports online now it's not just "a hand full of people" anymore.

There's no telling whether you have a defective unit but as others say, those with the fault are heard louder than those who haven't experienced issues. If you do want to resell then I strongly suggest you buy a case and glass screen protector, both of which can be obtained for reasonable prices.
I agree with your first bad point, but then 99% of the time I listen through headphones, your second is because of the smaller resolution of the Z3C vs the LG G2 (I know I have both) which are both set to the same dpi (320).

I was so disturbed about the 'self breaking' glass reports that I had a dream last night that my phone's front screen was all cracked.
Woke up and it was fine. I love this phone
Sent from my D5803 using XDA Free mobile app

Techfood said:
That was my mantra as well for weeks before buying this phone, but what's the point having the best non-huge phone if it's only going to break?
P.S Do you own one?
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Yes, I own one, for almost two weeks now.
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There are hundreds reports online now it's not just "a hand full of people" anymore.
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A lot of them are just the same people on different forums.

tofu- said:
that's a pretty big deal. not everyone has a backup phone and they don't cross ship like dell. you can't just pop into a sony store for instant refurb replacement like you can with apple, either. microsoft stores are also pretty great about replacing their lumias.
i bought mine with amex, so i have 90 days to evaluate whether or not it will break. if it does, i won't even bother going through sony, judging from the poor customer service and finger pointing people have been mentioning
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amex will only give you 300 bucks back...i did mine on discover and they do 90 days up to 500 bucks

jerflash said:
amex will only give you 300 bucks back...i did mine on discover and they do 90 days up to 500 bucks
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For Platinum Card® and Delta Reserve Card Members, Purchase Protection can also help protect your purchases for up to 90 days from the date of purchase if the item is stolen, accidentally damaged or lost. The coverage is limited up to $10,000 per occurrence, up to $50,000 per Card Member account per calendar year. Please read important exclusions and restrictions.

Safe to buy a used LG G4 in reference to major bootloop issue on older models?

I was in the market to replace my parent’s old Galaxy Note 2. So I’ve been searching around for comparable phone that has slight upgrades. My Budget is around $300. Parents need a phone with removable battery and good GPS so I’m limited to the LG G3, G4 and Note 3 and 4. Also wants screen at 5.5 inches or larger. So was concerned to read about this widespread bootloop issue. After reading up on this issue it seems all old models/ will eventually be affected. I usually purchase phones second hand off of eBay or Swappa but in this case It seems I must be very careful as it seems many people are unloading these devices which will eventually fail. Some have sold their devices beforehand because of this and I’m sure as second hand buyers we will inherit/get the issue in time. Also not sure about how warranty works for second hand buyers. I’m with T-Mobile by the way. What do you guys think about buying a G4 right now? Safe bet or stay away? Also if you guys know any comparable devices that meet all the criteria or most let me know. Thanks

I'll throw my two cents in here. I bought an LG G2 about a year ago and loved the LG style of hardware, button placement, and great performance. I had the old upgrade itch rear its ugly head and so I decided the G4 was the phone for me. Generally it wouldn't bother me to buy mint used phones, but I decided in this case I should do some research. I found out about the bootloop issue and decided it wasn't worth the risk (for me). An awesome deal came up on eBay, brand new G4 in box for $348, snapped that up right away, got it yesterday and from my time with it so far I love it. Best phone I've ever owned. Sorry for the long preamble, here's my advice, if you can swing the extra $40 -$50 for a new boxed phone (assuming a deal like that pops up on eBay again) I would say go for it. The extra $50 in my mind is well worth the peace of mind knowing that it has a warranty. I will say that when I was looking at Swappa I saw a lot of like new T-Mobile refurbs for the G4, however I was still a bit hesitant on those because I couldn't find much info on T-Mobile's refurbishment process. You may be more comfortable with T-Mobile refurbs than I was though so something to consider. I hope you find something that will work well!

Thanks for the advice
asinglenoob said:
I'll throw my two cents in here. I bought an LG G2 about a year ago and loved the LG style of hardware, button placement, and great performance. I had the old upgrade itch rear its ugly head and so I decided the G4 was the phone for me. Generally it wouldn't bother me to buy mint used phones, but I decided in this case I should do some research. I found out about the bootloop issue and decided it wasn't worth the risk (for me). An awesome deal came up on eBay, brand new G4 in box for $348, snapped that up right away, got it yesterday and from my time with it so far I love it. Best phone I've ever owned. Sorry for the long preamble, here's my advice, if you can swing the extra $40 -$50 for a new boxed phone (assuming a deal like that pops up on eBay again) I would say go for it. The extra $50 in my mind is well worth the peace of mind knowing that it has a warranty. I will say that when I was looking at Swappa I saw a lot of like new T-Mobile refurbs for the G4, however I was still a bit hesitant on those because I couldn't find much info on T-Mobile's refurbishment process. You may be more comfortable with T-Mobile refurbs than I was though so something to consider. I hope you find something that will work well!
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Yeah the scary part is it seems people are just unloading the phones and you cant really know which ones will have issues later. If i buy new from ebay will i still be covered by T-Mobiles warranty ? I thought to get that you had to buy the phone direct from them ? I will keep looking around to see if any deals come up.

naruto.ninjakid said:
Yeah the scary part is it seems people are just unloading the phones and you cant really know which ones will have issues later. If i buy new from ebay will i still be covered by T-Mobiles warranty ? I thought to get that you had to buy the phone direct from them ? I will keep looking around to see if any deals come up.
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I don't think you'll be covered by T-Mobile's warranty, but you should be covered by LG's manufacturer warranty (I would think anyway) as long as it's new in box. Also a lot of the new supply is likely to be manufactured after the date when they had issues. The issue dates were from months 05-08 of 2015 (from what I've read in the forums). The phone I got from eBay was manufactured in 09 2015 so it should *fingers crossed* be just fine.

asinglenoob said:
I don't think you'll be covered by T-Mobile's warranty, but you should be covered by LG's manufacturer warranty (I would think anyway) as long as it's new in box. Also a lot of the new supply is likely to be manufactured after the date when they had issues. The issue dates were from months 05-08 of 2015 (from what I've read in the forums). The phone I got from eBay was manufactured in 09 2015 so it should *fingers crossed* be just fine.
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your right. Before i buy it ill have to ask the seller a lot of questions like when was it manufactured and whats the serial numbers and such. Will look into LG's warranty coverage for eBay. I think on eBay you can also buy squaretrade coverage as well.

naruto.ninjakid said:
I was in the market to replace my parent’s old Galaxy Note 2. So I’ve been searching around for comparable phone that has slight upgrades. My Budget is around $300. Parents need a phone with removable battery and good GPS so I’m limited to the LG G3, G4 and Note 3 and 4. Also wants screen at 5.5 inches or larger. So was concerned to read about this widespread bootloop issue. After reading up on this issue it seems all old models/ will eventually be affected. I usually purchase phones second hand off of eBay or Swappa but in this case It seems I must be very careful as it seems many people are unloading these devices which will eventually fail. Some have sold their devices beforehand because of this and I’m sure as second hand buyers we will inherit/get the issue in time. Also not sure about how warranty works for second hand buyers. I’m with T-Mobile by the way. What do you guys think about buying a G4 right now? Safe bet or stay away? Also if you guys know any comparable devices that meet all the criteria or most let me know. Thanks
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Have had mine since about a week after release last year. Zero problems. Will have it for quite a while longer.

there is a new in box on swappa right now, but the seller says he opened the box to remove the sim. Do phones come with a sim already in place like that?

raqfox said:
there is a new in box on swappa right now, but the seller says he opened the box to remove the sim. Do phones come with a sim already in place like that?
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I'm not aware of any phone that comes with a sim pre-installed.

T-Mobile phones come with an unactivated sim on a punch out card. They are not "installed" in the phone. The Swappa seller is not including this sim in his listing.

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For $300 you can manage to get a brand new G4 right now, beside tell get cheaper now that the G5 been announce.
P.S any G4 manufacture on or after 09/16 as far as i know don't have those issues

Will keep an eye out.
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For $300 you can manage to get a brand new G4 right now, beside tell get cheaper now that the G5 been announce.
P.S any G4 manufacture on or after 09/16 as far as i know don't have those issues
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Hi thanks for the tips. do you have a link for the sale for $300 or do you mean on Swappa. Would rather purchase from a retailer so if you have any sites you purchase from let me know. Thanks

naruto.ninjakid said:
Hi thanks for the tips. do you have a link for the sale for $300 or do you mean on Swappa. Would rather purchase from a retailer so if you have any sites you purchase from let me know. Thanks
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Used prices are roughly 300 used so new would cost 500ish but there have been sales that brought the price down to 400ish. Keep waiting and it'll drop even more.

naruto.ninjakid said:
Hi thanks for the tips. do you have a link for the sale for $300 or do you mean on Swappa. Would rather purchase from a retailer so if you have any sites you purchase from let me know. Thanks
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tiskewlio said:
Used prices are roughly 300 used so new would cost 500ish but there have been sales that brought the price down to 400ish. Keep waiting and it'll drop even more.
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well right now the G4 (H811) is going for $400 (Full Price) and just recently there was a $75 off from $400 but ended already....just wait or if you have $100 more to spare just get it, but i just recommend to wait a bit to see a permanent price cut on the G4 or even the V10.

Zuk Deal... Too good to be true??

Hey guys, I just ordered myself a Grey Zuk Z1 from AliExpress seller called LuckyDog :silly:
It's $209 including shipping to New Zealand. Looks too good to be true but I did it anyway. The seller has only started selling on AEx earlier this year but he has 100% positive feedback.
I am waiting and not very sure what to expect. Everything in the ad looks legit.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig...E-WCDMA-CDMA-Smartphone-Dual/32644824011.html
Take a look and let me know.
I have also decided to mod the skin myself instead of the custom skins rip offs being sold around. I got a car Decal Vinyl for about 90 cents and it's going to look mean as.

Anybody?

its kinda too late to give you an advice, isnt it?
do you want to hear that this is a safe and good buy?
i would not buy a phone frome a seller with only 300 sells ... these sells may be fake?
i bought mine from amazon shipped directly from ZUK and did so because i want to have a good service in case the homebutton breaks, which will happen sometime.
i hope your device will arrive at your place and youre happy with the device

h0LLe said:
its kinda too late to give you an advice, isnt it?
do you want to hear that this is a safe and good buy?
i would not buy a phone frome a seller with only 300 sells ... these sells may be fake?
i bought mine from amazon shipped directly from ZUK and did so because i want to have a good service in case the homebutton breaks, which will happen sometime.
i hope your device will arrive at your place and youre happy with the device
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Actually it makes sense to do so, as I can cancel my order anytime before it ships. So I can still do so. How do you spot a fake Zuk, actually why would you fake something that is already very cheap?
I won't worry too much about warranty, I can fix things myself (hardware) when it gets to that as shipping things around from NZ is very expensive. Not to mention that with me rooting the device, I do not expect warranty anyway. Plus, people has been having troubles with ZUK's support so adds up to me not relying too much on warranty.
You are making a compelling argument nevertheless and the point you have raised which I agree with is regarding the product being fake.

i dont get it why you ask for opinions if you defend your position anyway
i just stated i would never buy a phone from a new seller especially at aliexpress. i rooted my device after using it for 2 months, now 7 months after buying it the home buttons feels sluggish.
i didnt pressed it for 5 months because i used mrcoldbirds rom and since a few weeks the nuclearrom but youre right, if you want to tear the phone apart you can fix it by yourself
no more answers from me

I didn't mean to sound defensive. You're right there.
Maybe I should break it down to questions, makes it easy to stay on track
- Has there been any reports of bad or fake Zuk Z1?
- Has there been any complaints of Zuk Z1 devices bought of AliExpress
- Any cheap alternatives to buy the phone for someone in New Zealand?
Thanks heaps for your input and time, feeling a bit ashamed for not thanking you earlier.

Better to buy "new" international version or refurbished from Best Buy?

So I got one on amazon that was supposed to be new and a us warrantied model.
Turns out it's not a us model. Also the box wasn't sealed and Sony says that the warranty info says it would expire over a month prior to a year past my purchase date... indicating to them that it has been previously activated.
I noticed best buy occasionally has them refurbished with a 90 day geek squad warranty.
Any thoughts on which is the better option?
Thanks in adavance

I wouldn't buy a refurbished phone, but that's just me. Too bad you can't get the US version sold by Amazon anymore, and too bad that seller shafted you - looks like they are the only NEW seller on Amazon currently.
Do you have any international sellers in mind? Perhaps depending on the vendor, you could at least have some kind of return option for the worst case scenario of a DOA phone.
I hope you can get this all resolved. And partly because I'm hoping you'll share the exact steps you take to get root/fingerprint/t-mo all working on the phone so I can replicate it. Good luck.

camaro322hp said:
I wouldn't buy a refurbished phone, but that's just me. Too bad you can't get the US version sold by Amazon anymore, and too bad that seller shafted you - looks like they are the only NEW seller on Amazon currently.
Do you have any international sellers in mind? Perhaps depending on the vendor, you could at least have some kind of return option for the worst case scenario of a DOA phone.
I hope you can get this all resolved. And partly because I'm hoping you'll share the exact steps you take to get root/fingerprint/t-mo all working on the phone so I can replicate it. Good luck.
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I'm sort of leaning towards the international one, but i have my doubts that this one they sent me is new. I should have no problem flashing the modified firmware to keep the fingerprint sensor and enable wifi calling/vo-lte. I just worry about the battery lifespan mostly.
Regardless by the time I'm finished unlocking and rooting I won't be sending it in to sony for any repairs.

POMF2K said:
I'm sort of leaning towards the international one, but i have my doubts that this one they sent me is new...... I just worry about the battery lifespan mostly.
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I would feel exactly the same. The battery unknown is a big reason why I would avoid refurbed phones. Even though you bought from a 3rd party on Amazon, you should have some protections from amazon, especially in the case where the item is not as described. Sounds like you have proof of that, so I would pursue trying to return that.
As far as where to get a replacement though, I'm not sure, unless you want to buy from a European supplier such as Clove.

camaro322hp said:
I would feel exactly the same. The battery unknown is a big reason why I would avoid refurbed phones. Even though you bought from a 3rd party on Amazon, you should have some protections from amazon, especially in the case where the item is not as described. Sounds like you have proof of that, so I would pursue trying to return that.
As far as where to get a replacement though, I'm not sure, unless you want to buy from a European supplier such as Clove.
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Never heard of Clove. Pretty reputable? As long as exchange is good it should still come in under $400 us.
I've actually asked the amazon company if they would exchange for a sealed in box model or give me a discount since it wasn't as described. They have pretty good feedback, I just worry about the battery.

I recently got a brand new international model from Ebay.

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Never heard of Clove. Pretty reputable? As long as exchange is good it should still come in under $400 us.
I've actually asked the amazon company if they would exchange for a sealed in box model or give me a discount since it wasn't as described. They have pretty good feedback, I just worry about the battery.
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I haven't personally used Clove, but they've been mentioned by XDA users over the years as a good source of unlocked phones. Or, like Dean says, there is always Ebay if you end up having to return your Amazon phone.

POMF2K said:
So I got one on amazon that was supposed to be new and a us warrantied model.
Turns out it's not a us model. Also the box wasn't sealed and Sony says that the warranty info says it would expire over a month prior to a year past my purchase date... indicating to them that it has been previously activated.
Thanks in adavance
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At least here in Germany the phones did not come sealed (we bought 3 phones so far) and the Warranty started at a date that was much earlier than our purchase date. Dropping an email to Sony fixed the problem

I'd get a new one, and it's not like region matters if you're planning to flash an international firmware to get the fingerprint sensor working anyway

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Any thoughts on which is the better option?
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You could buy a new one from Amazon Germany AND save some money. Then the fingerprint scanner will work out of the box.

Didgesteve said:
You could buy a new one from Amazon Germany AND save some money. Then the fingerprint scanner will work out of the box.
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This is a good find, but why you guys do not recommend buying used phones from Amazon? For example this one: Amazon.de blue xz1c.
I mean, the only concern would be the battery, right? Because there is no info about how much and for how long it has been used.
I am also looking for auctions on eBay.

Didgesteve said:
You could buy a new one from Amazon Germany AND save some money. Then the fingerprint scanner will work out of the box.
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Assuming I got a fair exchange rate it would still be right around $400 us for a new one. Even if shipping it here wasn't crazy expensive I'd still have to wait for it.