Hello all,
Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere but I was wondering if there was a consensus on what the most stable/smoothest ROM currently available for the HD+? Currently running CM10.1.3 build based on the recommendation on an old thread re stability, but I bet it can be better. I don't need 4.3 or every feature, stability and smoothness is the most important thing for me.
What do you guys think? Thanks.
mikelav456 said:
Hello all,
Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere but I was wondering if there was a consensus on what the most stable/smoothest ROM currently available for the HD+? Currently running CM10.1.3 build based on the recommendation on an old thread re stability, but I bet it can be better. I don't need 4.3 or every feature, stability and smoothness is the most important thing for me.
What do you guys think? Thanks.
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You have the best.
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mikelav456 said:
Hello all,
Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere but I was wondering if there was a consensus on what the most stable/smoothest ROM currently available for the HD+? Currently running CM10.1.3 build based on the recommendation on an old thread re stability, but I bet it can be better. I don't need 4.3 or every feature, stability and smoothness is the most important thing for me.
What do you guys think? Thanks.
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Does it lag much?
YevOmega said:
Does it lag much?
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Mine does not lag at all, but others have complained theirs does.
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YevOmega said:
Does it lag much?
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Mine does, quite a bit. Once I am watching a video it's great, but navigating around the UI can be frustrating at times, but ok other times. Hit or miss. Better than the 4.3 builds I was on. I really hope the 4.4 builds assist the lag.
leapinlar said:
Mine does not lag at all, but others have complained theirs does.
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What build are you using exactly? Custom kernel? Are there any kernels I should be flashing? What are your performance settings set to? I don't need high-end game performance, I just want to get in and out of apps and navigate the UI without thinking about the sub-par internals.
Thanks leapinlar!
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Mine does, quite a bit. Once I am watching a video it's great, but navigating around the UI can be frustrating at times, but ok other times. Hit or miss. Better than the 4.3 builds I was on. I really hope the 4.4 builds assist the lag.
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I find that using Greenify helps lower the amount of lag. I'm running CarbonROM 10-31 build with buggy multiwindow. Previous CarbonROM build was roughly the same in performance. At times I'm fine, but at others, it takes a year to open something. I'm hoping that the new compiler, ART, will make things better.
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What build are you using exactly? Custom kernel? Are there any kernels I should be flashing? What are your performance settings set to? I don't need high-end game performance, I just want to get in and out of apps and navigate the UI without thinking about the sub-par internals.
Thanks leapinlar!
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I run CM10.1.3 stable, using the kernel that comes with it and standard performance settings.
But I run at 320 dpi and use ADW-EX as my launcher. I also run my swap zip so that media files get put on my SD instead of internal memory. I also have the SEM32G chip.
I suspect that a lot of users getting LAG are 16GB devices that put their media files on internal memory (the default) and they fill up internal memory (/data and /data/media) so that the device slows down when it needs to write to storage that has been previously used. After all, that is what LAG is.
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YevOmega said:
I find that using Greenify helps lower the amount of lag. I'm running CarbonROM 10-31 build with buggy multiwindow. Previous CarbonROM build was roughly the same in performance. At times I'm fine, but at others, it takes a year to open something. I'm hoping that the new compiler, ART, will make things better.
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Yeah I was contemplating trying the carbon builds with the multiwindow but really want to make sure it's stable first. Might just wait for 4.4 builds before changing.
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Hi,
I just thought it would be useful to start a thread focused specifically and exclusively on the pluses and minuses of the two great choices we have for our Touchpads.
I suspect a lot of us are sitting with CM9 nightlies and wondering which way to leap...what do people think? What are the benefits and issues with each?
Thanks.
CM10 Con: No flash support
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-SGA- said:
CM10 Con: No flash support
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I'd say that is more of a "Pro" than a "Con", in my opinion.
Even without flash support we can still install it and run it with native browser or Firefox.
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I was noticing graphics errors with flash on CM10, either low FPS or scrambled looking flash elements. I also got this in other UIs in CM10 randomly. I went back to CM9 since I don't really see the benefit of CM10 at the moment.
spunker88 said:
I was noticing graphics errors with flash on CM10, either low FPS or scrambled looking flash elements. I also got this in other UIs in CM10 randomly. I went back to CM9 since I don't really see the benefit of CM10 at the moment.
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Yes, so do I
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I like cm10! Much smoother and faster! Graphics are great! Flash works great in both dolphin and puffin browser! My antutu scores were much better!
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What's considered to be the best rom for stability and battery life that is ICS or JB?
I feel like the device is much snappier. I heard battery is supposed to be better with it as well but I can't confirm. The xda app was never the best , now it is almost fluid o.o. or at least noticeably better. What do you have to say ?
i was told to add this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1qbko3/art_broken_apps/
edit: I would like to add that the apps i notice this most is for instance, when i use hangouts and i'd right ALOOOOOOOT with someone and then scroll up at a fast rate, it would stutter. Now, this stutter is nearly gone.
XDA - xda app is one of the most noticeable, stutter has been reduced by such a large margin that you'd have to try it yourself to believe it.
G+ would have the occasional hickup when scrolling through news posts. Next stop would be the play store, it used to stutter a lot as well, now it's become a lot better. Just for the hell of it i compared it to my sister's note 2 and the difference is there.
I doubt this is a placebo effect, i'm even considering to make a video as proof with dalvik on and off for the hell of it.
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I figured people will ask this question soon enough, so I'll just ask it now..
Does WhatsApp work?
No WhatsApp does not work. It is stated and asked on other threads.
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MameTozhio said:
I figured people will ask this question soon enough, so I'll just ask it now..
Does WhatsApp work?
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can't install
I tested it, system processes were failing, reverted back to 4.3... I tested the unofficial build from Paranoid Android then....
By the way, factory image for Nexus 4 is out, anyone tried it already? Any thoughts? Including ART?
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Please do not go off topic
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I'm using it.....a Lil snappier but noticeable... But a increase in battery life so far...everything seems so buttery... Hard to tell
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Oops wrong.
Albert62 said:
It sucks.
The Nexus doesn't even get the Nexus's 5 launcher. I don't see much difference. I'd call it 4.3.2
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someone posted this, i only have the link sadly so i can't give credits, thanks regardless.
https://mega.co.nz/#!EBIBFKpB!FoxEijz50FrcoBlSQXJG3wznJvpkqzbp936w1jk4J14
Paste that into your system lib/app and install the launcher app in the folder and voila: you've got it all.
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I tested it, system processes were failing, reverted back to 4.3... I tested the unofficial build from Paranoid Android then....
By the way, factory image for Nexus 4 is out, anyone tried it already? Any thoughts? Including ART?
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Well, it's kind of obvious, if you want the best experience for now you're going to want to go with the official 4.4, since the developers need their time to work their magic.
I have no crashes, i'm using ART so far cause i could care less about what's app. I'll report in about battery life observations once i've at least had this thing running for a whole day.
Feels really smooth so far; don't use any apps that crash(thankfully) on ART. Hard to tell with the battery as I came off a custom kernel that was picked for low power usage. Like with any new firmware, it usually takes a few days of my phone running before I can really judge things. Got to give all the apps running a little time to muck things up to get a solid feel for real world performance; but I'm hopeful from what the past few hours performance/battery wise.
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please stop going off topic, seriously
most apps feel smoother using ART, a few actually feels slower. but overall, things are a tad bit quicker. that said, ART still has some issues, and can feel buggy at times.
Ignasiuz said:
No WhatsApp does not work. It is stated and asked on other threads.
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I know that. I was just asking before other people did. Because it has been said in other threads as you've said, yet people still ask.
Anyway I really like ART. Better memory management it seems to have when using it, and feels snappier
simms22 said:
please stop going off topic, seriously
most apps feel smoother using ART, a few actually feels slower. but overall, things are a tad bit quicker. that said, ART still has some issues, and can feel buggy at times.
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Buggy? Were do you feel the bugs?
I'm not saying it is not buggy, I just want to know before I switch
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Just switched to art on today's stock KitKat after running art on nexus 5 port for a week. No stability issues and have 165 apps installed with no bugs. Battery life is improved by approximately 15% and performance is much quicker
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It's not worth the hassle in my opinion. I couldn't notice any tangible difference, performance-wise. I tried it on SlimKat, though. I may probably give it a second try now on stock but the whole idea of having non-working apps like Whatsapp and TiBu just takes the appealing away for now.
Could this just an elaborate hoax to test the placebo effect of Android optimization? I don't understand the true potential if it.
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Ignasiuz said:
Buggy? Were do you feel the bugs?
I'm not saying it is not buggy, I just want to know before I switch
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it just seems that with time, there develops slowdowns. like a far majority of the time i press the recents button and they pop open fast. but occasionally, it takes its time. like a few seconds. i only get that when using ART. im not knocking it, because i do enjoy playing with it. im just giving my experience
sorry for OT but whatsapp is working fine in the facory image,am i missing something?
gm007 said:
sorry for OT but whatsapp is working fine in the facory image,am i missing something?
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Did you switch to ART?
PoisonWolf said:
Did you switch to ART?
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sorry no my bad
I have a question. I have been reading about kitkat apps. It seems that particularly the web browser is pretty crap. Can anyone verify these comments? I don't know that it will be an issue, but I was curious if anyone here has any personal experience. If it's bad, I'll stay with 4.2.2 . Thanks.
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Proud2banoob said:
I have a question. I have been reading about kitkat apps. It seems that particularly the web browser is pretty crap. Can anyone verify these comments? I don't know that it will be an issue, but I was curious if anyone here has any personal experience. If it's bad, I'll stay with 4.2.2 . Thanks.
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The launcher is just OK, it's really Google Now's version of a launcher with it built in. I found it be a little slow and very little customization. Fine for the masses who don't know any different (which are the majority of users, sadly). Nova destroys it all day long.
Far as KitKat goes, it all depends on the ROM and the device. Some ROMs are way behind and some are way ahead. I hate to say it but if CM11and SlimKat were all I had to choose from, I'd probably go back to 4.2. Yes CM is the foundation of all ROMs so I'm grateful it's around, but for KitKat they still have a long way to go, at least for S2. Same for SlimKat. Just too many issues. The unofficial ROMs are kicking major butt though. For the Exhibit, I'd stick with 4.2 for now although to be fair I haven't tried the newest KitKat ROMs available here lately. @jfbs is working hard to get you guys a stable 4.4 though!
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The launcher is just OK, it's really Google Now's version of a launcher with it built in. I found it be a little slow and very little customization. Fine for the masses who don't know any different (which are the majority of users, sadly). Nova destroys it all day long.
Far as KitKat goes, it all depends on the ROM and the device. Some ROMs are way behind and some are way ahead. I hate to say it but if CM11and SlimKat were all I had to choose from, I'd probably go back to 4.2. Yes CM is the foundation of all ROMs so I'm grateful it's around, but for KitKat they still have a long way to go, at least for S2. Same for SlimKat. Just too many issues. The unofficial ROMs are kicking major butt though. For the Exhibit, I'd stick with 4.2 for now although to be fair I haven't tried the newest KitKat ROMs available here lately. @jfbs is working hard to get you guys a stable 4.4 though!
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I can easily install Nova again. It's the launcher I use now and I love it. Thanks for the advice. I am looking forward to @jfbs' rom. I was just eager to try kitkat because it was supposedly designed to work on phones like ours, where ram is at a premium. Initial reviews did say it ran much lighter, but I am not sure if it really makes a difference.
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Proud2banoob said:
I can easily install Nova again. It's the launcher I use now and I love it. Thanks for the advice. I am looking forward to @jfbs' rom. I was just eager to try kitkat because it was supposedly designed to work on phones like ours, where ram is at a premium. Initial reviews did say it ran much lighter, but I am not sure if it really makes a difference.
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Ultimately there is one truism I have found, functionality and speed are mainly hardware dependent. You can have the best ROM ever made in history but if the device doesn't have the hardware to back it up, it's useless. I booted the Exhibit for the first time in almost two weeks the other day and it was so much painfully slower than what I have now it isn't even funny. It reminded me how thankful I need to be that I have something else to be honest. A good KitKat ROM may help this device, IDK.
Yeah, the browser on Slimkat is all slow and FC's, even when you try to use a different browser than stock. With the other 4.4 ROMs we have I think you can just use a different browser if the stock has FC issues.
I stay using 4.2, since I can OC higher than 1012MHz and can swap the sd's.
FC stands for force close? Thanks for the advice. I will stay with 4.2 for now. I will see what @jfbs comes up with.
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Proud2banoob said:
FC stands for force close? Thanks for the advice. I will stay with 4.2 for now. I will see what @jfbs comes up with.
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yeah, well thats what I think it means xD.
On CM 11 opera browser works exceptionally well, Chrome was very slow to me.
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Dvarl said:
On CM 11 opera browser works exceptionally well, Chrome was very slow to me.
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Opera was always faster for me as well and also works well when getting Edge and not 3or4g.
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My wife often complains that her stock HD+ isn't as responsive as she'd like. Will either of the stable builds (10.1.3 or 10.2.1) be better or is this a hardware issue? I'm wondering if the BN software slows things down.
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My wife often complains that her stock HD+ isn't as responsive as she'd like. Will either of the stable builds (10.1.3 or 10.2.1) be better or is this a hardware issue? I'm wondering if the BN software slows things down.
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I'd say if a little bit can't be dealt with then get a different tablet - I can deal with it cause of the screen size for the price and other roms... but, not everyone will.
[Adding also, cm11 is actually quite good - smoothest cm to me. But with switching apps, keyboard popup, typing in the brower, and more there tends to be waiting at various times or various lengths. How much of that is the device, the apps, or android is unknown to me.]
I have tried almost all ROMs and facing scrolling stutter in apps like XDA and Playstore...is it just me or with everyone?
ram4ufriends said:
I have tried almost all ROMs and facing scrolling stutter in apps like XDA and Playstore...is it just me or with everyone?
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i notice it in chrome with websites like news.google.com and xda forums.
there are browsers that are faster that can aid in this issue.
My belief is that it is a ram assignment issue. I think the phone, or apps, limit the amount of ram each app gets. but i could be wrong.
ram4ufriends said:
I have tried almost all ROMs and facing scrolling stutter in apps like XDA and Playstore...is it just me or with everyone?
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Not just you.
Skwerl23 said:
i there are browsers that are faster that can aid in this issue.
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I decided to try an alternate browser softer becoming frustrated with the same issue. In researching it, I ran into a lengthy discussion of the security and trustworthiness of alternative browsers and the developers.
Anyhow, as someone who has a history of rooting and flashing custom roms, I'm prepared to make that leap of faith in the case of an experienced XDA dev. But that's a choice for you to make.
There are a few that have been made available that are based on the same original CAF coding which was specifically written to optimize performance on snapdragon based devices (like the OP3 and OP3T). I have tried one side by side with chrome and found it to be consistently faster to load pages. Part of this improvement is that it has built in ad blocking.
Anyhow, I am now using an alternative CAF based browser as my default and am very happy..
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This stutter is starting driving me crazy! Nexus 6p is much smoother. Hope to find some solution for this...
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Abu-khulzat said:
This stutter is starting driving me crazy! Nexus 6p is much smoother. Hope to find some solution for this...
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Yes for me too...Try TugaPower ROM...I felt that's the only ROM without the issue...what ROM are you on?
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Yes for me too...Try TugaPower ROM...I felt that's the only ROM without the issue...what ROM are you on?
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I am on stock 4.0.2. I want to try some other roms, but for the time being can't afford myself doing a factory reset to unlock bootloader.
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I'm also experiencing this on Lineage OS, odly enough I didn't have this scrolling lagging in earlier builds or before last accidental clean flash. I just thought it was caused by going from F2FS to EXT4 as it kinda started when I did that conversion. But that's probably just a coincidence.
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I'm also experiencing this on Lineage OS, odly enough I didn't have this scrolling lagging in earlier builds or before last accidental clean flash. I just thought it was caused by going from F2FS to EXT4 as it kinda started when I did that conversion. But that's probably just a coincidence.
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I am on f2fs and get the same scroll issue....wonder why this issue on a 6GB phone... I used pixel for few days and it was buttery smooth....
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Yes for me too...Try TugaPower ROM...I felt that's the only ROM without the issue...what ROM are you on?
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I didn't see any thread for this ROM , could share a link?
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Abu-khulzat said:
I didn't see any thread for this ROM , could share a link?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/development/rom-tugapower-0-1-rc-t3522878
However, it isn't the rom that makes the difference. its the browser. Use yubrowser from the app store first to see if that helps.
As for apps, you won't find any rom different except maybe stock vs not.
I've noticed this too but a reboot is usually sufficient to get it to go away for me. Also noticed improved scrolling speeds on SultanXda's CM13 Rom, however I prefer to run stock myself.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/development/rom-tugapower-0-1-rc-t3522878
However, it isn't the rom that makes the difference. its the browser. Use yubrowser from the app store first to see if that helps.
As for apps, you won't find any rom different except maybe stock vs not.
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I am not talking about browsers... But the native apps like XDA, Playstore, Twitter....
I know. But it's a start.
Started running citrus-caf. And I LOVE it. And no stutter in Twitter. Or browser so far. Don't have XDA app. But I'm mad impressed
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I know. But it's a start.
Started running citrus-caf. And I LOVE it. And no stutter in Twitter. Or browser so far. Don't have XDA app. But I'm mad impressed
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Did you try RR Official? I tried Citrus and had the scrolling issue....
I did. I don't remember if I had the issue. Maybe a developer option could fix it? I use multiprocess webview.
I tried using conservative governor from this trick
https://www.xda-developers.com/onep...s-with-conservative-governor-for-some-reason/
And it improved a lot especially in scrolling pages here in xda ?