I have a Dev edition on VZW with an unlocked bootloader, rooted, and CW recovery. Stock ROM, running Xposed.
What should I do so I don't get stuck in a bootloop again?
I've heard all I need to do is flash the stock recovery through ADB. Is this correct?
9kracing said:
I have a Dev edition on VZW with an unlocked bootloader, rooted, and CW recovery. Stock ROM, running Xposed.
What should I do so I don't get stuck in a bootloop again?
I've heard all I need to do is flash the stock recovery through ADB. Is this correct?
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if the only thing you used root for was the xposed stuff, then uninstall all of that stuff, and flash the recovery and you should be good to go.
So, just to be clear we will lose root after the OTA right? Do we also need to do any other stuff like restoring hosts file changed by adblock for instance? Or just flashing stock recovery is fine?
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tejaskary said:
So, just to be clear we will lose root after the OTA right? Do we also need to do any other stuff like restoring hosts file changed by adblock for instance? Or just flashing stock recovery is fine?
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if all you did was run rooted apps, then uninstalling those apps (assuming they uninstall correctly and clean up whatever mess they created) then just flashing stock is fine. If you want to be 100% sure, then flash system.img as well and you will most certainly be good to go.
I'm having trouble locating a stock recovery img.
And is it just fasboot flash recovery.img?
Edit: Nvm, found it.
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evoshift617 said:
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No issues, install TWRP and flash your preferred super user app via TWRP. I choose to use the "clockwork" super user.
Kraizk said:
No issues, install TWRP and flash your preferred super user app via TWRP. I choose to use the "clockwork" super user.
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Root checker says otherwise. My bootloader is unlocked and I have twerp recovery. I tried flashing superSU and superuser and still no root.
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Which version of twrp are you on? I just went from completely locked, not rooted 4.3 to unlocked and rooted 4.3 with twrp 2.6.3 yesterday. After booting into Android after flashing twrp it prompted me to download the SuperSU, which then asked if I wanted to do the twrp install, which then automatically went into recovery, installed, and rebooted. This worked perfectly for me
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Which version of twrp are you on? I just went from completely locked, not rooted 4.3 to unlocked and rooted 4.3 with twrp 2.6.3 yesterday. After booting into Android after flashing twrp it prompted me to download the SuperSU, which then asked if I wanted to do the twrp install, which then automatically went into recovery, installed, and rebooted. This worked perfectly for me
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So making sure I understand you correctly, you went from stock 4.3 unrooted and then unlocked bootloader then installed twrp? If so what method did you use to unlock bootloader and install twrp? I've always used hassoons toolkit and I'm trying to find out if I can do it that way before I mess my phone up. ( touchscreen) I'm trying to find out if there are differences in unlocking and rooting 4.1.2 and 4.3. I can't find a straight answer with all this 4.3 update clutter and guys whining about it. I've read a lot and I'm still confused.
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Yes, I was completely stock 4.3. No unlock or root. Unlocked using HTC tool, then used adb to flash twrp. When you boot back into android, it prompts you to install supersu, which sends you back into twrp and installs. Boot back into android and you're rooted.
Just make sure you flash 2.6.3.0. The older version does not work right
I did flash the 2.6.3.0 and flashed superuser and is on there Like if i was rooted to the point that it cant even be uninstalled. I think it was the outdated files from qbking77.
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I have vzw dev ed, rooted with twrp recovery, stock everything else, I want to take the OTA and know i cant as is, i plan on using moto x toolkit to flash back to stock, here are my questions, once im back to stock and take the OTA, will i still be rooted, if not can i re root 4.4.2, do they have twrp custom recovery for 4.4.2, or should i just freeze the update and leave my phone as is?
jaysdroid2 said:
I have vzw dev ed, rooted with twrp recovery, stock everything else, I want to take the OTA and know i cant as is, i plan on using moto x toolkit to flash back to stock, here are my questions, once im back to stock and take the OTA, will i still be rooted, if not can i re root 4.4.2, do they have twrp custom recovery for 4.4.2, or should i just freeze the update and leave my phone as is?
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you have a unlocked bootloader so you can root any version of android just grab the SBF file for 4.4 and flash it with RSD Lite and then take the OTA update
after the update reflash your custom recovery via the command promote command then install the SuperSU flashable zip in your recovery and enjoy your rooted 4.4.2
dray_jr said:
you have a unlocked bootloader so you can root any version of android just grab the SBF file for 4.4 and flash it with RSD Lite and then take the OTA update
after the update reflash your custom recovery via the command promote command then install the SuperSU flashable zip in your recovery and enjoy your rooted 4.4.2
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awesome, thank you, so the twrp version i used while on 4.4 will work with 4.4.2, there is not a different version for the new OS? basically once i revert back to stock and accept the OTA i just do exactly what i did the first time with the same files and i'll be where i was prior?
Yes, you can use the same TWRP version on 4.4.2, and you reinstall it the same way. However, you don't need to use RSD lite to flash an entire SBF file in order to return to stock to accept the update - you can, but it will wipe all of your apps and settings. You can fastboot the stock recovery.img and system.img to return to stock, accept the OTA, re-flash TWRP, reboot directly into TWRP, let TWRP install SU, and you're good to go.
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Interesting, where would i find just those two img. files and how would i go about flashing just those two files, sorry if i need it dumbed down, fist moto phone and first time having to use a cmd prompt screen to do anyhting, had a galaxy nexus prior and everyhting was completely.....different/simpler.
pkomarnicki said:
Yes, you can use the same TWRP version on 4.4.2, and you reinstall it the same way. However, you don't need to use RSD lite to flash an entire SBF file in order to return to stock to accept the update - you can, but it will wipe all of your apps and settings. You can fastboot the stock recovery.img and system.img to return to stock, accept the OTA, re-flash TWRP, reboot directly into TWRP, let TWRP install SU, and you're good to go.
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this is tru but i rather just have them use the whole file instead of flashing just parts of it because there is less chance of messing there phone up.
so it is your call either way you have to download the SBF file. then you can either flash the whole file via RSD Lite or you can unzip the recover or system images and flash them via CMD and fastboot and mfastboot.
you can find the SBF files at the link below just make sure you download the correct file for your phone
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
here is a link to my guide should give you all the info you need to get back to stock to take the OTA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-how-to-root-4-4-links-guides-t2603358
Thank you all for the input, im prolly just going to revert completely to stock, i have no problem letting my apps re download and its less of a chance i fubar something, although if i do rest assured my next post will be how to un-fubar my phone
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Yes, you can use the same TWRP version on 4.4.2, and you reinstall it the same way. However, you don't need to use RSD lite to flash an entire SBF file in order to return to stock to accept the update - you can, but it will wipe all of your apps and settings. You can fastboot the stock recovery.img and system.img to return to stock, accept the OTA, re-flash TWRP, reboot directly into TWRP, let TWRP install SU, and you're good to go.
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This. No reason to flash back to completely stock.
jaysdroid2 said:
Interesting, where would i find just those two img. files and how would i go about flashing just those two files, sorry if i need it dumbed down, fist moto phone and first time having to use a cmd prompt screen to do anyhting, had a galaxy nexus prior and everyhting was completely.....different/simpler.
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The 2 files can be found inside the sbf file.
To flash them:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash system system.img
jaysdroid2 said:
Thank you all for the input, im prolly just going to revert completely to stock, i have no problem letting my apps re download and its less of a chance i fubar something, although if i do rest assured my next post will be how to un-fubar my phone
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Take this opportunity to learn something. If flashing back to stock isn't an issue for you, what's the worst that can happen? You own a dev edition, learn to take full advantage of it. It's not difficult at all..
And please, don't use a toolkit until you've learned the basics of fastboot and adb. If the toolkit fails, you'll end up having to learn it all anyways.
Hi guys!
I've finally received 4.4.4 notification to update my German Moto x!!
I'd like to know one thing before I proceed.. If I update, will I have to root again the phone?
My phone has unlocked bootloader so there is no problem, but right now I'm on holiday and I don't have a pc to root it again..
Thanks a lot!
I have not upgrade to 4.4.4 yet.
I don't think you need to root again
Thanks!
I've read some other user just flashed the stock recovery, installed the ota and flashed back twrp recovery..
Others instead use fwz method
I think I'll wait until I'm home just to be sure I need my phone during the holidays!
daede86 said:
Thanks!
I've read some other user just flashed the stock recovery, installed the ota and flashed back twrp recovery..
Others instead use fwz method
I think I'll wait until I'm home just to be sure I need my phone during the holidays!
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Hi, i was wondering the same thing. Is there a method for someone to create an update for rooted phones?
Also can you link me to the threads for flashing back to stock and what this fwz is?
thank you
Here you can find some info about FXZ (sorry for my typo)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fxz-moto-x-4-4-4-212-55-26-t2827307
In the same thread you can find the stock recovery, a user posted it. Just search stock recovery in the thread and you'll find it!
I'm not the right person to help you in detail.
I'm not an expert user
In the meantime I froze motorola OTA app to hide the update notification..
Guys, before anyone gets in trouble....there is no FXZ for the german (or any asia/european) Moto X's yet.
The only one released is the Verizon one....so DON'T flash the verizon FXZ.
You need to flash stock recovery back, and if the phone STILL won't take the OTA, also use "mfastboot" to flash system.img from the 4.4.2 FXZ (which IS released for the european/asia models). Afterwards, the OTA should install without fail.
You WILL need to re-flash TWRP no matter which method you use. You will also need to re-root IF you flash the system.img from the 4.4.2 SBF in order to be able to accept the OTA (you only flash system.img from 4.4.2 if the OTA fails after you have flashed stock recovery - it normally means you have modified /system in some way, and restoring the full system.img fixes this issue).
Good Luck - Remember: Don't flash the Verizon 4.4.4 FXZ to your non-Verizon phone. Not a good idea...
If your phone doesn't vary from Stock but rooted, you can get away with flashing stock recovery back on there and taking the OTA. (OTA wont install via custom recovery like TWRP, CWM, etc). And if that is the case, you will retain root. You can optionally flash TWRP back on there.
If you have Xposed installed, it will need to be disabled or removed for the OTA install to work.
It is when you mess with stock files in /System or other folders on the phone.. i.e. remove, rename, etc. files from them, that you may also need to flash system.img and possibly other parts. This is due to verification checks in the OTA zip itself. If you have to flash those parts, you will have to re-root. Not an issue if you have an unlocked bootloader.
Thanks a lot for your help and clarification!!
I knew I wasn't the right person
Guys just to be sure of the right process..
-download the actual sbf of my phone
-extract recovery.img from the sbf
-remove xposed
-flash the recovery with flashify
-take the ota
-flash back twrp recovery
Am I right?!
Thanks a lot
daede86 said:
Guys just to be sure of the right process..
-download the actual sbf of my phone
-extract recovery.img from the sbf
-remove xposed
-flash the recovery with flashify
-take the ota
-flash back twrp recovery
Am I right?!
Thanks a lot
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IF you do not vary too much from Stock (i.e. didn't remove, rename or replace any "stock" files on your phone), then yes.
Oh, for Xposed, there is a disabler ZIP you can flash from custom recovery located in /storage/emulated/0/Android/data/de.robv.android.xposed.installer (or /SdCard/Android/data/de.robv.android.xposed.installer ) instead of removing it, as sometimes removing it doesn't undo all the changes.
I am aware that I can't get the ota with a custom recovery. when lollipop gets released, how to I update my phone? I want to use stock so that I have active notifications and voice control.
You need to reflash the stock firmware.
Flash the entire stock rom? Or just recovery?
Recovery, revert any framework mods, reinstall any uninstalled system apps, and unfreeze any system apps.
1) Stock recovery. No it will no flash with twrp or cwm
2) All root removed completely from your system
3) Xposed framework completely removed from your system, uninstalling will not work,you need to flash the xposed Disabler zip
4) Any mods to any system file must be reverted to stock
5) Running the stock odex ROM
6) Any system apps frozen must be unfrozen
Now, i have a Noob Question, but I always had Samsung devices, they have no bootloader like the moto or htc.
I unlocked the bootloader, is it safe to update via OTA ?
thx
TLH11 said:
1) Stock recovery. No it will no flash with twrp or cwm
2) All root removed completely from your system
3) Xposed framework completely removed from your system, uninstalling will not work,you need to flash the xposed Disabler zip
4) Any mods to any system file must be reverted to stock
5) Running the stock odex ROM
6) Any system apps frozen must be unfrozen
Now, i have a Noob Question, but I always had Samsung devices, they have no bootloader like the moto or htc.
I unlocked the bootloader, is it safe to update via OTA ?
thx
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Pretty sure all android devices have some sort of bootloader.
Anyway, since your bootloader is unlocked, you shouldn't have a problem rooting.
JJHunterx said:
Pretty sure all android devices have some sort of bootloader.
Anyway, since your bootloader is unlocked, you shouldn't have a problem rooting.
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What about the OTA for future lollipop?
TLH11 said:
What about the OTA for future lollipop?
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If you have a custom recovery you wont be able to OTA. That simple.
...or just wait for someone to cook up a custom Lolipop or stock rooted ROM flashable via custom recovery.
JJHunterx said:
If you have a custom recovery you wont be able to OTA. That simple.
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It will certainly flash via custom recovery. You just can't do an automatic update with custom recovery, where the system reboots itself and tries to update. If you manually download an OTA zip and flash it manually in recovery, it will work as long as all the file checks pass as I've done this several times on different devices.
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TLH11 said:
1) Stock recovery. No it will no flash with twrp or cwm
2) All root removed completely from your system
3) Xposed framework completely removed from your system, uninstalling will not work,you need to flash the xposed Disabler zip
4) Any mods to any system file must be reverted to stock
5) Running the stock odex ROM
6) Any system apps frozen must be unfrozen
Now, i have a Noob Question, but I always had Samsung devices, they have no bootloader like the moto or htc.
I unlocked the bootloader, is it safe to update via OTA ?
thx
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For #2 you do not need to UNROOT in most cases. Using the older methods for locked bootloaders like SlapMyMoto/RockMyMoto and the like it was suggested to flash back to stock because of potential changes those processes make that could cause the OTA update's pre-flash validation checks fail.
For #6 it depends on how they are "Frozen." Apps "frozen" or disabled the same way that going Settings -> Apps -> {select the app} -> tap DISABLE button (or uninstall updates, then disable) will be fine and will not impact the OTA.
In the past freezing apps via Titanium Backup did cause problems, so it was suggested to unfreeze. However, more recent updates (like 4.4.2 to 4.4.4) did not encounter that problems, and those who froze apps with Titanium Backup didn't need to unfreeze.
If you have an 3rd party recovery on the device, when it goes to reboot and install the update, it will fail, and get the phone stuck in a boot loop.
When I've tried manually installing an OTA.ZIP in TWRP, it has errored. The only way for me to install was via stock recovery. That being said, I didn't try CWM or Philz.
As for Lollipop, you will be able to install and then flash custom recovery. As for rooting, there are changes in Lollipop, and it wont be confirmed until Lollipop hits a 2013 X, but in theory, due to the latest updates from Chainfire to SuperSU, we may be able to just flash TWRP, and install SuperSU like we did with KitKat.
I found that my moto xt1052 has bootloader unlocking available and im very excited. I like to know if its compulsory to flash recovery to make device rooted. I don't want to install new roms or firmware. Im rooting to control running apps and use some root apps.
I like my phn to be receptive for ota, which isn't possible if i flash custom recovery.
So i want to know if recovery is compulsory to have root status and manage permissions or if i can enjoy root privileged with just unlocking the bootloader.
Thankyou.
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After unlocking the bootloader, flash TWRP, root, then flash stock recovery back on the phone and run that way.
KidJoe said:
After unlocking the bootloader, flash TWRP, root, then flash stock recovery back on the phone and run that way.
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hi KidJoe,
how back to stock recovery ?
is it enough to flashing file "recovery.img" by RSD Lite ?
I know rsd lite is made to be more user friendly but I still prefer flashing via fastboot.
Fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Moto-x said:
hi KidJoe,
how back to stock recovery ?
is it enough to flashing file "recovery.img" by RSD Lite ?
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RSDLite is overkill to flash just recovery.
Do as @cntryby429 said... use mfastboot to flash recovery. You can use it to flash either TWRP (when rooting) and/or Stock recovery.