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Not sure if anyone know's but let's say I get two of these phones one for me and one for the wife and Only one needs Data considering I am home all day with wi-fi access. Is there a way to get it so I can call in and drop one of the data plans after getting the phone?
The only way you could do that is if you buy it off contract. The carrier will force you to have a data plan.
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Well what if I buy it and say I sold the phone and plug in My OLD Motorola Rokr to the Sim when I call them. I mean they can't prove that I didn't sell it.
But the network knows your imei and att will know what kind of phone it is.
Would your plan work? Probably. Would it be surprising for att to surprise you with automatically adding a data plan later? No.
If you look online at your account it will show you what phone you have. I once tested their system with a few phones I got from friends. One was an att branded flip phone, one was a unlocked HTC WinMo phone with a custom ROM, and another was a TMo blackberry. Each time within a day or two the website updated itself with my phone.
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you'll be able to switch to another data plan when you change device
or outright remove it
but when you switch back to the thrill it will detect it and automatically add the $15mb 200 meg data plan
just do the iphone or unlocked smartphone idea to get her unlimited data. that way at least she can listen to pandora, stream videos, and use gps when she's out.
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you'll be able to switch to another data plan when you change device
or outright remove it
but when you switch back to the thrill it will detect it and automatically add the $15mb 200 meg data plan
just do the iphone or unlocked smartphone idea to get her unlimited data. that way at least she can listen to pandora, stream videos, and use gps when she's out.
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I have heard of the iPhone idea but what's the unlocked Smartphone idea. I mean I have an unlocked T-Mobile Mytouch 4G (That Work?)
plenty of other ways, port out number to another carrier.....port it back in, dont have to use same rate plan when you come back, dif phone now, no data needed...
Any time you put your Sim card in a smartphone, the phone will update the IMEI on your account and send you a text saying it added the plan within about two days of use. Pretty much no way around it that I know of.
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The price of your phone is subsidized by the contracted data plan. As far as I know they would leave it on your account no matter what actual phone you are using, since they gave you a $550 phone and will be getting their money back one way or another.
Not actually. You can start a contract with a smartphone but later change your IMEI to a regular phone and drop the data altogether. They get their money back from your monthly rate plan.
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TylDurden said:
The price of your phone is subsidized by the contracted data plan. As far as I know they would leave it on your account no matter what actual phone you are using, since they gave you a $550 phone and will be getting their money back one way or another.
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If you got the phone for a reduced price then switched to a non smart phone you could drop the data, but if you use any smartphone with att they add a data plan.
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Not actually. You can start a contract with a smartphone but later change your IMEI to a regular phone and drop the data altogether. They get their money back from your monthly rate plan.
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So why are data plans contracted and required on some (smart) phones and not others?
Data plans aren't contracted. smartphones require data plans because of the large amounts of
data they consume due to the full html browser, app downloading, and app data use.
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Interesting. I don't have too much experience with ATT but on TMobile when I got a BB and sold it, I attached a different phone and tried to remove the Data plan and it gave me a disconnection fee. I had to get a sales rep friend work some magic, when ATT says that a phone "requires data and a 2 year contract" I just put 2 and 2 together. Glad to hear I'm not locked into a data plan.
That's crazy that t mobile contracts plans. No wonder they're going out of business lol. with AT&T, pretty much the only thing that is contracted is your service. You can change any rate plan or data plan anytime as long as it's within the guidelines for your device.
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That's crazy that t mobile contracts plans. No wonder they're going out of business lol. with AT&T, pretty much the only thing that is contracted is your service. You can change any rate plan or data plan anytime as long as it's within the guidelines for your device.
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Makes sense to me. Data usage of a phone has nothing to do with a required data plan. You can always turn it off (the data) from the phone. Getting money back for a more expensive phone is a much better excuse to require data. I'm still doubting that I can just change to a flip phone and turn off my data plan on ATT. I liked tmobile (and still do) better than ATT. I just wanted a Thrill and I joined my Dads plan so I pay less, but I almost payed the same with my own plan on Tmobile without splitting the bill with anyone. ATT is way more expensive.
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ATT is way more expensive.
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I keep hearing this. I shopped around and couldn't find another carrier that had a significantly reduced rate from what I pay.
5 lines
2 smart phones w/unlimited data
2 non-smart phones w/unlimited data
1 non-smart phone not on any data plan
1500 minutes
unlimited text
Total monthly=~$230
We had 2100 minutes but since AT&T went free mobile to mobile calling and up 10 non-cell lines free to and from calling, we had a ton of rollover minutes.
US Cellular was like $250
Verizon was $160 before you even threw in data plans and insurance
Sprint is terrible in my area for reception
T-mobile was ~$240
Granted I get 15% off my bill so it'd be a bit more expensive. But when price comparing, all the companies are about the same when it comes to family packages.
I have 4 lines
3 smartphones w/ $25 data
1 regular Joe
Insurance on all 4
Unlimited texting for all
Around $225 before my discount
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Clearing things up
Ok ok ok, so I work for ATT Customer Care, and I have to deal with this every darn day. ATT's systems are smarter than you, sorry, it's true. They do random sweeps and see what IMEI (id for phone) the sim card is attached to. They also look at the calls, and every call has an IMEI attached to it. I promise you, even if you buy the phone outright, or say you have a different phone, it will catch you. It will also notify you saying your busted, and it will put on the $25 2gb with $10/1gb overage on it. You cannot get around it, sorry. The only way was to have a smartphone exclusion on the acct, and that is not possible because you are changing IMEI's. Sorry, deal with it.
On a side now, if you want unlim data, then buy an ORIGINAL iPhone, put it on your acct for a few days, call back in and have the imei changed to the thrill, and you get to keep the data package.
Have a great day!
Going to be an Apple Store employee starting next week, but don't feel comfortable asking them this question yet.
I know what the discount is for AT&T:
1) Buy the iPhone subsidized and pay for a regular plan for 6mo before being converted to the $30mo unlimited everything employee plan.
2) Buy the iPhone unsubsidized and get the $30mo unlimited everything employee plan immediately.
But what are the Apple Store employee plans for Sprint and Verizon?
I saw something posted on another site back in 2010 where Apple Store employees using the iPhone 4 on Verizon got a $30mo plan that included 1500min, with unlimited text and data. Not sure how credible the source was though.
Can anyone clear this up for me? Preferably from people who actually know what they're talking about (speculations on the back burner please).
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I want a job there, too bad I'm 16.
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They should pay you to use that crap.....
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I went to my local corporate store to upgrade to a white Vivid and was told that in order to do so I will have to give up my unlimited data plan and be switched to LTE plan. The kicker is that LTE is not even available here and will not be in the near future. Needless to say I said no thanks and walked away. Has anyone else ran into a similar issue and is there a way around it?
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This is untrue plain and simple.
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This is untrue plain and simple.
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How do you know that? I don't understand why would they lie to me and lose a sale.
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How do you know that? I don't understand why would they lie to me and lose a sale.
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maybe because a lot of us got to keep our unlimited plans?
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I went to my local corporate store to upgrade to a white Vivid and was told that in order to do so I will have to give up my unlimited data plan and be switched to LTE plan. The kicker is that LTE is not even available here and will not be in the near future. Needless to say I said no thanks and walked away. Has anyone else ran into a similar issue and is there a way around it?
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Not factual, or did not ask.
I got my White Vivid off contract so I had to call AT&T to switch my data plan. After about a 15 min. call I was able to keep my unlimited data plan. Some CSR's can't do it so you have to speak to/get permission from their supervisor.
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Although technically the unlimited data plan isn't unlimited. They give you a 10238976 MB (9,999 GB) limit. I don't know when they start throttling though.
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Sold my s2 and got a white vivid and I was allowed to keep my unlimited data plan
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I got unlimited 4G LTE. Unfortunately many att store reps can't do it, they'll have to call 611 also, that's how he did it for me to keep my unlimited, he couldn't do it in the store through their system for some reason.
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This makes no sense. Why would they lie???
@slimslim. that's what the store rep told me, that the system is not allowing him to retain my current data plan. I am going to call 611 later tonight and will try to order over the phone.
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The only thing I can think is you had a non PDA unlimited plan which does not grandfather you into unlimited for a PDA in the future. That or you or tjr Rep misunderstood
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I have a $30 smartphone data plan, had it since iPhone 2G days.
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The only thing I can think is you had a non PDA unlimited plan which does not grandfather you into unlimited for a PDA in the future. That or you or tjr Rep misunderstood
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I have a $30 smartphone data plan, had it since iPhone 2G days.
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the iPhone 2g was a $20 unlimited data the $30 is from the 3g and newer.
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the iPhone 2g was a $20 unlimited data the $30 is from the 3g and newer.
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Ugh.. I know. The POINT is that I have an unlimited smartphone data plan since iPhone 2G. Better?
Unlimited Everything ..
I have the unlimited plan, was grandfathered in and LTE was given to me without a problem..
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Ugh.. I know. The POINT is that I have an unlimited smartphone data plan since iPhone 2G. Better?
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LOL i was just kidding with you.
I would call AT&T they did the switch for me in the store no problem.
I live in Cabot, AR it is by Little Rock, AR if that helps you out.
I did the iPhone 2g loophole without any issues so I'd try another rep. When I went from the iPhone back to the Vivid my data wouldn't work and I called in and they wouldn't switch it. Went to the store and they did it in a couple minutes.
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LOL i was just kidding with you.
I would call AT&T they did the switch for me in the store no problem.
I live in Cabot, AR it is by Little Rock, AR if that helps you out.
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On hold with 611 now.
From the official AT&T press release.
http://www.att.com/gen-mobile/press-room?pid=21882&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=33192
LTE Data Plans
Customers can choose from tiered data plans starting as low as $15 per month. Existing smartphone customers do not have to make changes to their data plan. All plans include access to AT&T’s national Wi-Fi network of more than 29,000 hotspots.
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Saved and Texan by the grace of God, Redneck by choice.
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From the official AT&T press release.
http://www.att.com/gen-mobile/press-room?pid=21882&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=33192
Saved and Texan by the grace of God, Redneck by choice.
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Part of the email they sent me after:
" This is to confirm the following feature has been changed to: Feature: unlimited data for 4g lte Effective Date: 11/19/2011 Monthly Recurring Charge: $30 Included Data: unlimited
- Your new feature and its benefits are available immediately. - Your monthly recurring charge and included data will be prorated by the number of days remaining in your billing period. - On your next invoice, you will see the prorated monthly recurring charge for the new feature for the current billing period and a full monthly recurring charge for the next billing period. - On your next invoice, you will see a partial credit for your old feature. - You may also see overage charges, if you exceed the prorated amount of included data in either feature."
Also had the unlimited data for $30 before.
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Need to find a T-Mobile store that has nexus 4 for sale in your area http://www.google.com/nexus/4/retailers/
If you get the nexus 4 from T-Mobile these are there classic (phone discount) plans.
1)Unlimited Nationwide 4G
Unlimited 4G data on T-Mobile network for accessing the web, streaming music and HD video, and downloading cool apps—as much as you want. No limits and no overages.
$89.99 per month
2)Unlimited - Plus
Unlimited data on the T-Mobile network for social networking and navigating (up to 2 GB of high-speed data included)
$79.99 per month
Now if you buy the phone at full price $350 and get the value (no phone discount) plans from T-Mobile these are the prices
1)Unlimited Nationwide 4G
Unlimited 4G data on T-Mobile network for accessing the web, streaming music and HD video, and downloading cool apps—as much as you want. No limits and no overages.
$69.99 per month
2)Unlimited - Plus
Unlimited data on the T-Mobile network for social networking and navigating (up to 2 GB of high-speed data included)
$59.99 per month
Both plans require a 2 year contract but you save $480 in two years so just pay the extra $150 for the phone from Google
Even better plans
Family plan classic
1)$159.99 unlimited data
2)$139.99 2GB data
Family plan value 2 lines
1)$119.99 unlimited data
2)$99.99 2GB data
These plans down below have changed find the new prices here http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Packages/ValuePackages.aspx
Family plan value 3 lines
1)$139.99 unlimited data
2)$109.99 2GB data my plan
Family plan value 4 lines
1)$159.99 unlimited data
2)$119.99 2GB data
PREPAID PLANS NO CONTRACT
1)$30 100mins unlimited texts 5GB data
2)$60 unlimited talk and text 2GB data
3)$70 unlimited talk text and data
Update starting Nov 11 2012 if your on the classic plan and want to move to the value plan T-Mobile will not be charging a migrate fee
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/11/t-mo...p-migrate-customers-over-to-value-rate-plans/
Micro sim cards are free at T-Mobile store or 99¢ if you want it mailed to you.
Nexus 4 won't have WiFi calling http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-4-sold-t-mobile-doesn-t-have-wifi-calling
Nexus 4 does have HSPA+42 http://www.tmonews.com/2011/06/giant-list-of-current-markets-with-t-mobiles-42mbps-hspa-network/
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The T-Mobile nexus 4 on contract is $199 with $20 per month for two years. So it totals $680
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Now if you buy the phone at full price $350 and get the value (no phone discount) plains from T-Mobile these are the prices
1)Unlimited Nationwide 4G
Unlimited 4G data on T-Mobile network for accessing the web, streaming music and HD video, and downloading cool apps—as much as you want. No limits and no overages.
$59.99 per month
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Are you sure this is correct? I thought that this plan costs $69.99 per month.
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The T-Mobile nexus 4 on contract is $199 with $20 per month for two years. So it totals $680
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$20/month for service? What plan is that?
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The real reason no one should buy nexus 4...is cause it suckx.
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$20/month for service? What plan is that?
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Its not for service but for the phone. Its part of tmobile value plan where one brings his own device OR tmo sets a financial plan for you where you pay small amount up front(199) and then 20 payments (of 20$)
So 600$ for 16gb version. But the plan is much cheaper than classic. 35 $ for 1000 mins and 10$ for 2 gb plan.
So its a win win get value plan and buy the ph from play store
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Are you sure this is correct? I thought that this plan costs $69.99 per month.
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I corrected the OP
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Right I am with $69.99 per month plan, but soon will be migrated to t-mobile value unlimited business plan which is like $54.99
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The T-Mobile nexus 4 on contract is $199 with $20 per month for two years. So it totals $680
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T-mobile corrected their original statement and said it will be $15/month.
nexus 4 uses a microsim right?
^Correct, like the iPhone. Though I'm not sure if it's free to get a microsim if you're already a customer.
I agree. For an extra $150, the ability of not having to sign a contract is well worth it. Google just turned the tech world upside down with the phenomenal pricing of the N4 and N10. Every other manufacturer will follow suit.
We win
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T-mobile corrected their original statement and said it will be $15/month.
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I see the article, seems compelling, but it didn't say what the $15/month is consisted of.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/t-mobile-unveils-holiday-lineup-nexus-4-htc-8x-lumia-810-to-l/
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Google just turned the tech world upside down with the phenomenal pricing of the N4 and N10. Every other manufacturer will follow suit.
We win
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Nope, they'll keep charging their regular price and hope no one will notice. Nexus devices aren't popular.
I'm just gonna buy the phone from google and stay on my $30/month T-Mobile pre-paid plan.
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^Correct, like the iPhone. Though I'm not sure if it's free to get a microsim if you're already a customer.
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Yes it is
RushAOZ said:
I agree. For an extra $150, the ability of not having to sign a contract is well worth it. Google just turned the tech world upside down with the phenomenal pricing of the N4 and N10. Every other manufacturer will follow suit.
We win
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Both plain require a 2 year contract or go prepaid for $60
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I'm just gonna buy the phone from google and stay on my $30/month T-Mobile pre-paid plan.
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That just has 100 mins
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I have a Dealer line so i don't have a choice, I have to get it outright but I'm Ok with that! I just don't have a micro sim card....anyone know if Tmobile gives them for free? Or can I cut it myself with no issues?
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I have a Dealer line so i don't have a choice, I have to get it outright but I'm Ok with that! I just don't have a micro sim card....anyone know if Tmobile gives them for free? Or can I cut it myself with no issues?
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I went to the T-Mobile store last week to get an Isis sim card for my GS3 last week and wasn't charged. After selling my GS3 to fund the Nexus 4, I had to go back to using a BlackBerry Bold 9700 that uses a standard SIM. Went in, asked for a SIM, they activated it and said have a nice day. You can cut yours down, but I'd go into a T-Mobile store first and ask for one.
Can I go ahead and get a microsim now so I can use the nexus when I get it, and still use my standard sim on my gs2 until then? Or can I only have one sim card at a time?
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That just has 100 mins
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I'm assuming he uses a VoIP solution for unlimited minutes via data like a lot of the $30 prepaid people do.
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Can I go ahead and get a microsim now so I can use the nexus when I get it, and still use my standard sim on my gs2 until then? Or can I only have one sim card at a time?
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No cuz they transfer you info onto the new sim when you get it
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ATT go phone just started their new prepaid plans which are compatible with our nexus 4.
New plan is unlimited talk, text, and 2gb of data for $60 a month. Plus additional 1gb of data is $10 per gb.
I know this is a little more expensive, but for people like me that live in and "E" data area for t-mobile, I now finally have hspa wherever I go with no spotty coverage.
There was rumor that you can get a postpaid att account with unlimited everything with 5gb of data. The clerks at the store said that since it is byod, there wouldn't be a contract break out fee, which I find hard to believe.
Anyone ever do that?
Would you mind posting your APN settings? I've had the gophone plan for a month and started getting horribly low speeds, changed the APN to get better speeds and lost mms abilities.
Also, I had the older gophone plan and on the 22nd it switched automatically to the new, cheaper, and better, plan.
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Cyanogen has them pre-programmed in their ROM.
You don't want the Cingular one. That's the old one with slow speeds.
You want the one with "phone".
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These settings work great on my nexus 4 and got them from a gs4 on display at an att store. In addition, it matches the htc one on display at the store.
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Tried those above. Still can't send or receive mms.
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These settings work great on my nexus 4 and got them from a gs4 on display at an att store. In addition, it matches the htc one on display at the store.
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I had no idea there were new apns that work on gophone, they work great for me, thanks!
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ATT go phone just started their new prepaid plans which are compatible with our nexus 4.
New plan is unlimited talk, text, and 2gb of data for $60 a month. Plus additional 1gb of data is $10 per gb.
I know this is a little more expensive, but for people like me that live in and "E" data area for t-mobile, I now finally have hspa wherever I go with no spotty coverage.
There was rumor that you can get a postpaid att account with unlimited everything with 5gb of data. The clerks at the store said that since it is byod, there wouldn't be a contract break out fee, which I find hard to believe.
Anyone ever do that?
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Go phone plans now support LTE since june 21st as long as you have an LTE capable device.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/14/att-gophone-lte/
Thanks
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Originally had my Nexus 4 on T-Mobile. After a week or so of 2g data I made the switch to AT&T's go phone plan. I'm on the 60$ talk, text, 2gig deal. I couldn't be happier. I just need to get used to only downloading file at home on WiFi.
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