Can the AT&T be unlocked and used 100% on T-Mobile? - Moto X Q&A

I'm torn between an unlocked X and a cheap, barely used AT&T version. I use both T-Mobile and AT&T and need seamless 4G/LTE on either service.
Are the AT&T bands Pentaband like the Developer Edition if unlocked?
Furthermore, is the T-Mobile version pentaband? At the same price (549) for motomaker, it may make more sense to buy this one as I can customize it and unlock it, using on AT&T/T-Mo at will with no worry about network issues.
TL;DR: What Moto X models are true pentaband?
Looks like the Dev Edition is the one to get:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X

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AT&T on T-Mobile?

This is probably a really stupid/simple question, but how locked down is the AT&T version of the Moto X? I'm interested in jumping to T-Mobile and am off-contract on a MVNO carrier. Would I be able to take a MotoMaker version of the Moto X and unlock/run it on T-Mobile without any issues, if I bought it outright?
terinfire said:
This is probably a really stupid/simple question, but how locked down is the AT&T version of the Moto X? I'm interested in jumping to T-Mobile and am off-contract on a MVNO carrier. Would I be able to take a MotoMaker version of the Moto X and unlock/run it on T-Mobile without any issues, if I bought it outright?
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yes, i am using one from at&t on tmobile and i have no problem so far.
Is it possible to do a moto maker AT&T off contract activate phone on T-Mobile and unlock bootloader?
SymbioticGenius said:
Is it possible to do a moto maker AT&T off contract activate phone on T-Mobile and unlock bootloader?
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no because the motomaker edition still can't have its bootloader unlocked.
can moto maker phone (att) ask for unlock code from att?
If you paid for the phone outright they will [should] give you the lock code. Worst case is you can go onto any number of sites and get the code for $10 or less.
The ATT version works fine on TMO as long as you aren't in one of the few remaining areas that hasn't been 're-farmed.' HSPA on AWS is in very limited use now, but markets that still depend on this protocol on this band will not play too nice with an ATT version. Most of TMO coverage though has been re-farmed so that LTE runs on AWS. These areas are fine. If I recall (don't hold me to this) all TMO markets will be re-farmed by the end of the year.
Already ask request but still not have any update from att
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unlocked moto x on sprint

I have a unlocked moto x that I am trying to use with a sprint sim card. anyone know how I can get this to work
You will need to be more specific on which Moto X you have. However if it isn't a factory Sprint Moto X I think the chances of it working are extremely slim. Sprint uses CDMA, a normal unlocked Moto X uses GSM.
This is unlocked from Motorola
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Well you didn't answer the question at all so its tough to help. The long and short of it is that if you want to use a Moto X with Sprint you need to buy the Sprint version.
I guess I didn't realize Motorola sold more than one type of unlocked moto x. I knew they sold locked ones for each service provider but my understanding was that the developer edition moto x was the only one you could purchase from motorola unlocked...
Sprint doesn't have a developer edition. Only VZW and AT&T make those available to be purchased.
Verizon and Sprint use a different phone technology than other phone companies, called CDMA. To use a phone on those companies, you need a phone with built in support for their CDMA service. CDMA doesn't support removable SIM cards or changing carriers (or even changing phones, without having the carrier switch service to the new phone).
Some (many) phones on those services can also be used on the more common GSM phones services, because both Sprint and Verizon are new using that technology for data. That's where "unlocked" comes in. If you get the unlocked version of a CDMA phone you can use it on other (GSM) carriers. Sprint tend to only unlock phones for international use, not for use by their competitors. I'm less familiar with Verizon.
Either way, to use a phone on Sprint (or on Verizon) you generally need to buy a phone earmarked for that carrier. That is true of the Moto X.
If you can still return that phone, you should do so.

[Q] Using Moto X Verizon outside US?

I'm willing to buy one from eBay
I found a Dev Edition Verizon 32GB
Can I use it directly without any activation or unlocking?
I don't care about 4G/LTE. I only care about 3G and H+
Thanks
GSM DEV ED is working factory unlocked out of the box as is the T mobile version. No activation needed or required. VZW edition is for those on their network not wanting to void warranty by unlocking bootloader.
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mkb_1989 said:
I'm willing to buy one from eBay
I found a Dev Edition Verizon 32GB
Can I use it directly without any activation or unlocking?
I don't care about 4G/LTE. I only care about 3G and H+
Thanks
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I'm pretty certain that the Verizon one will not work overseas. Best bet is to get a T-Mobile or GSM DE. Swappa is the best place for it.
esskayy said:
I'm pretty certain that the Verizon one will not work overseas. Best bet is to get a T-Mobile or GSM DE. Swappa is the best place for it.
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It's my understanding that an unlocked moto-x will work on either CDMA or GSM networks depending on the sim that is put in the phone. There is apparently no hardware difference in the various phones other than 16gb or 32gb. The differences are in the preloading and locking of carrier stuff...and the warranty for developer edition not being voided by unlocking it.
esskayy said:
I'm pretty certain that the Verizon one will not work overseas. Best bet is to get a T-Mobile or GSM DE. Swappa is the best place for it.
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All verizon LTE phones are sim un-locked now (FCC requires this as part of the licensing deal for the 700MHz spectrum). The trick is to find a local carrier that matches the phones radio bands, or to buy a phone from a carrier whos radio bands match your perferred local carriers as closely as possible. The Wikipedia page lists the variants of the Moto X and their radios.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X
nuchdog said:
All verizon LTE phones are sim un-locked now (FCC requires this as part of the licensing deal for the 700MHz spectrum). The trick is to find a local carrier that matches the phones radio bands, or to buy a phone from a carrier whos radio bands match your perferred local carriers as closely as possible. The Wikipedia page lists the variants of the Moto X and their radios.
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I just returned from a week in Europe with my Verizon Moto X (non-DE). When I landed in Italy, it took about 10 minutes before the phone picked up a local carrier and then everything worked great. In Italy I was roaming on Vodafone, and in Switzerland I was roaming on Swisscom. Data worked great in both places. I didn't try using a local SIM card, but I'm sure there are plenty that would work.

Republic Wireless Moto X on AT&T???

Does anyone have the Republic Wireless Moto X running on AT&T and is ok?
Just received a RW Moto X and realized I purchased it from them instead of AT&T on the Moto Maker site.
It is on 4.2.2 and I was seeing if I should even pursue rooting and flashing a new rom onto it that would allow the changing of the network technology (GSM vs CDMA, etc.)
Thanks in advance for the help!
mystikz2002 said:
Does anyone have the Republic Wireless Moto X running on AT&T and is ok?
Just received a RW Moto X and realized I purchased it from them instead of AT&T on the Moto Maker site.
It is on 4.2.2 and I was seeing if I should even pursue rooting and flashing a new rom onto it that would allow the changing of the network technology (GSM vs CDMA, etc.)
Thanks in advance for the help!
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Nope, if you don't plan to use Republic you should return it instead. The RW Moto X will only operate on RW. You cannot bootloader-unlock it, and you cannot SIM-Unlock it. That phone can only ever been used on Republic Wireless.
P.S. When you re-order your new phone, I highly suggest buying the T-Mobile version instead. The T-Mobile variant comes SIM-Unlocked and is Bootloader-Unlockable. You can use it straight out-of-the-box on AT&T or T-Mobile.
If you buy the AT&T Variant, it comes SIM-Locked to AT&T (and you will have to buy/obtain a SIM-Unlock code if you ever want to use it on another carrier), and you cannot unlock the bootloader either.
Additionally, the T-Mobile variant supports all of the frequencies AT&T (and T-Mobile) currently use in the United States.
Good Luck
samwathegreat said:
Nope, if you don't plan to use Republic you should return it instead. The RW Moto X will only operate on RW. You cannot bootloader-unlock it, and you cannot SIM-Unlock it. That phone can only ever been used on Republic Wireless.
P.S. When you re-order your new phone, I highly suggest buying the T-Mobile version instead. The T-Mobile variant comes SIM-Unlocked and is Bootloader-Unlockable. You can use it straight out-of-the-box on AT&T or T-Mobile.
If you buy the AT&T Variant, it comes SIM-Locked to AT&T (and you will have to buy/obtain a SIM-Unlock code if you ever want to use it on another carrier), and you cannot unlock the bootloader either.
Additionally, the T-Mobile variant supports all of the frequencies AT&T (and T-Mobile) currently use in the United States.
Good Luck
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Thank you for the honest and straight forward post. The T-Mobile version it is.
I will be ordering again shortly.
Thanks again!
@mystikz2002
Some additions to what @samwathegreat has already said...
There were some who were successful in using the 3rd party Chinese Website/Middleman to BUY the boot loader unlock code for the Republic Wireless X. BUT he is right in that no one has been able to SIM unlock them, so they will only work on Republic Wireless.
If you are going to get the GSM Unlocked (ships with T-Mobile SIM), which is AKA the T-Mobile version, from MotoMaker, just know that if you want to unlock its bootloader (if you want to root), while Moto will give you the unlock code for FREE on their web site, requesting the bootloader unlock code voids its warranty. So compare the price of that model, to the GSM Developer Edition X. While you can't customize its look (Dev Ed ships only as black face, woven white back, silver accents {buttons and camera ring}, and 32gig), unlocking its bootloader doesn't void the warranty. Internal hardware and functionality wise, the GSM Dev Edition and the GSM Unlocked are the same phone.

[Q] Moto X from T-Mobile to AT&T

I want to get a Moto X that would work if I decided to switch from T-Mobile to AT&T. My first preference is to buy it from Best Buy (I have some gift cards) but the guy at the store said if I bought a T-Mobile Moto X from them it wouldn't work if I switched to AT&T because it would be locked. From what I understand, T-Mobile can and will unlock this device for me if I ask them (nicely) meaning I could then use it with AT&T. Is my understanding correct?
My other options are to buy one from T-Mobile or get one from Motorola's website. Same question with these phones: Even if they are locked to T-Mobile at first, can I get them unlocked and use them on AT&T?
Thanks for any and all help!
shahud said:
I want to get a Moto X that would work if I decided to switch from T-Mobile to AT&T. My first preference is to buy it from Best Buy (I have some gift cards) but the guy at the store said if I bought a T-Mobile Moto X from them it wouldn't work if I switched to AT&T because it would be locked. From what I understand, T-Mobile can and will unlock this device for me if I ask them (nicely) meaning I could then use it with AT&T. Is my understanding correct?
My other options are to buy one from T-Mobile or get one from Motorola's website. Same question with these phones: Even if they are locked to T-Mobile at first, can I get them unlocked and use them on AT&T?
Thanks for any and all help!
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Friend..the best way to do it, is to purchase an unbranded, no carrier Moto X from Motorola Website..then you can use whomever you wish..I'd suggest the Developer Edition..otherwise you'll probably have to purchase a "branded" model..
Tip: do everything in your power to purchase an "unbranded" unlockable device..
Here is a list of devices that can be unlocked..look in Moto X list..which can be unlocked..I don't see AT&T listed as unlockable..but they do offer the Moto X..but if I was to guess..I'd say theirs is also unlockable.. but verify this before a purchase..
But..if your budget doesn't allow for the price of a Moto XDEV..then certainly consider the new Moto G 4G LTE..the two are VERY similar is size, and the G will run right along side with the X..I have both..and a budget certainly will justify the new Moto G..and its not carrier branded, runs LTE blazing..consider the Moto G..I have one on AT&T..all my devices are now on AT&T..but of course, depends on your area, to which carrier..
Here >> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
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shahud said:
I want to get a Moto X that would work if I decided to switch from T-Mobile to AT&T. My first preference is to buy it from Best Buy (I have some gift cards) but the guy at the store said if I bought a T-Mobile Moto X from them it wouldn't work if I switched to AT&T because it would be locked. From what I understand, T-Mobile can and will unlock this device for me if I ask them (nicely) meaning I could then use it with AT&T. Is my understanding correct?
My other options are to buy one from T-Mobile or get one from Motorola's website. Same question with these phones: Even if they are locked to T-Mobile at first, can I get them unlocked and use them on AT&T?
Thanks for any and all help!
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I don't know that there is a "T-Mobile Branded" X, and I don't think T-Mobile sells the X directly (at least it isn't on their web site).
Your choice, is the GSM UNlocked (includes T-Mobile sim) from Moto Maker web site, or the GSM Developer Edition... why?
These are the only way to get a Moto X that supports HSPA/HSPA+ over AWS (1700mhz) that T-mobile uses. History or why is this a consideration: When T-mobile started rolling out their HSPA/HSPA+ network, they did so on AWS(1700mhz) and are the only carrier to do so. While they are re-farming their 1900mhz from EDGE to HSPA+ in many areas, that isn't complete, so if the phone doesn't support HSPA/HSPA+ on AWS, it will fall back to EDGE in those legacy areas which remain.
Now, what is the difference between the GSM Unlocked and GSM Dev Edition? Kind of simple...
The GSM Developer Edition comes only as 32gig with black face, woven white back, silver accents (buttons and camera ring), and says Developer Edition on the back.
The GSM Unlocked (includes T-Mobile SIM) on Moto Maker can be ordered as 16, 32, or 64gig, and the face, back and accents can be customized, along with other customization.
BOTH are SIM unlocked out of the box. Both can be bootloader unlocked, however doing so voids the warranty on the GSM Unlocked version but not the Dev Edition.
Both of these editions support the same GSM/EDGE/GPRS/HSPA/HSPA+/LTE bands and frequencies. In fact, they are the same "board' inside, use the same roms, etc. i.e. other than the look of the outside & customization options, and bootloader unlocking voiding vs not voiding the warranty, they are the same phone. (hence the GSM Dev Edition being the preferred choice so you can unlock the bootloader and easily root it without voiding the warranty).
If you are on T-Mobile today, you could buy the ATT version at no contract direct from Moto, BUT... you can't unlock the bootloader (moto doesn't give out the codes for ATT, Verizon, Republic wireless and a few others), ATT Wont sim unlock it (so you could use with T-Mobile) unless you are their customer for a certain period of time, and it doesn't support HSPA/HSPA+ on AWS. While the ATT X does support 2 extra LTE bands, those bands are not currently used in the USA.
Hope that makes sense.
Thanks for the responses! So let's say I were to order the GSM unlocked version (I'm not worried about voiding the warranty by unlocking the bootloader) with the T-Mobile SIM from motomaker and I used it on T-Mobile for a few months. If I were unhappy with the service from T-Mobile, would I be able to replace the T-Mobile SIM with an AT&T SIM and use it on AT&T's network?
P.S. I did take a look at the Moto G 4G and the Dev Edition but considering who is going to use this phone (my mom), my budget and the reviews the Moto X has gotten I decided that the X would be the best choice.
shahud said:
Thanks for the responses! So let's say I were to order the GSM unlocked version (I'm not worried about voiding the warranty by unlocking the bootloader) with the T-Mobile SIM from motomaker and I used it on T-Mobile for a few months. If I were unhappy with the service from T-Mobile, would I be able to replace the T-Mobile SIM with an AT&T SIM and use it on AT&T's network?
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Yes, that is correct. The only caveat being that if ATT ever starts using those two extra LTE Bands (band 5 and 7) in the USA then the GSM Unlocked will have a slight disadvantage as it doesn't support them (hardware wise).
shahud said:
Thanks for the responses! So let's say I were to order the GSM unlocked version (I'm not worried about voiding the warranty by unlocking the bootloader) with the T-Mobile SIM from motomaker and I used it on T-Mobile for a few months. If I were unhappy with the service from T-Mobile, would I be able to replace the T-Mobile SIM with an AT&T SIM and use it on AT&T's network?
P.S. I did take a look at the Moto G 4G and the Dev Edition but considering who is going to use this phone (my mom), my budget and the reviews the Moto X has gotten I decided that the X would be the best choice.
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moto x is a great phone for mom because it just works. Good choice my friend.
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shahud said:
Thanks for the responses! So let's say I were to order the GSM unlocked version (I'm not worried about voiding the warranty by unlocking the bootloader) with the T-Mobile SIM from motomaker and I used it on T-Mobile for a few months. If I were unhappy with the service from T-Mobile, would I be able to replace the T-Mobile SIM with an AT&T SIM and use it on AT&T's network?
P.S. I did take a look at the Moto G 4G and the Dev Edition but considering who is going to use this phone (my mom), my budget and the reviews the Moto X has gotten I decided that the X would be the best choice.
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I bought the T-Mobile/GSM unlocked version from MotoMaker and it's working on my AT&T GoPhone plan no problem. I cut my micro-SIM down to nano and it works in the X just like it did in my Nexus 4. Interestingly I get better signal in many areas on LTE than my N4 got on HSPA+.
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I bought the T-Mobile/GSM unlocked version from MotoMaker and it's working on my AT&T GoPhone plan no problem. I cut my micro-SIM down to nano and it works in the X just like it did in my Nexus 4. Interestingly I get better signal in many areas on LTE than my N4 got on HSPA+.
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I have this device on the AT&T GoPhone plan and very pleased with LTE here in the mountains of NC..out performs my Moto X Dev Edition and Droid Maxx Dev Edition (Verizon) here..
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