Database Develop

Rediscovering SuperPower v 0.80 BETA

So I was over in the Atrix forums the other night because there was someone over there who was wanting some help deciding if they should ditch their Atrix for the Thrill 4G. The overwhelming amount of posts about some of the hitches with the Thrill were in regards to the battery consumption and the RAM getting hammered with general usage.
Over here since a bunch of us are actively doing doing what we can to try and speed the development along having being trying new things and tweaking this or that in an attempt to make some progress toward real development.
Here is a link to what I said over there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17448824#post17448824
So I was running back through all the apps. and such that I had used in the past on other phones and hidden in my lengthy list of apps. used to get every ounce of power out of whatever phone I was jacking with, was SuperPower. I had the paid version but it has subsequently been ditched and redone it seems and now takes the form of a BETA.
This BETA I dropped onto my Thrill and started to go through the options that are available on this version that were not there before. You can now manually go into SuperPower and tell the app. what program you want it to kill when the screen goes black, how you want wi-fi and/or radios to behave, etc. It is extremely customizable.
Until there is a custom ROM and all that for the Thrill I think we are going to have to do our best to manage the few minute undesirables this device has with things like SuperPower. So, my end result as it stands right now on battery and RAM usage, I am using a few different apps. and I will list the links below for your convenience; is after about 10 1/2 hours of fairly mid to heavy use I was sitting at about 71 % battery life. Understand I let the battery go down below 20 % then charged it back up to 100 % with no interruptions in the charging process. You should do this at least once a month just maintain good battery health and longevity anyway. Especially on powerhouse phones like the Thrill 4G.
Now when I say mid to heavy usage this is my interpretation of that; regular talk time throughout the day, 100+ text during the day, market and music downloads, 2D and 3D gaming. When it was time to charge again I was at 13 or so hours with 49 % battery still showing. Not to bad as it was blowing through battery like it was free before.
Here are the apps. I used with download links. If you have questions or anything let me know or PM me:
SuperPower BETA v 0.80(*Must be rooted by the way to use this*)
https://market.android.com/search?q=SuperPower
Chainsfire 3D(*must be rooted*)
https://market.android.com/search?q=Chainsfire&so=1&c=apps
*As a side note besides the other great benefits this app. offers what I use to help with battery usage is the Night Mode feature*
SPB Shell 3D (*This is a paid app. and worth every penny IMO. But if you are not down with dropping the change for it use LauncherPro or one of the other free Launchers out there*)
https://market.android.com/search?q=spb+shell+3d+&so=1&c=apps
Advanced Task Manager
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.arron.taskManagerFree&feature=search_result
Hotspot Guru
https://market.android.com/search?q=Hotspot+Guru&so=1&c=apps
Besides what I listed as benefits for SuperPower there are a ton more that I have not even touched on. This app is jam-packed full of modding goodness. get the app. and use at your own risk kind of thing and explore this bad boy because its a doozy. Lol! Hope this helps.

What are you doing specifically on the Superpower app to get such good battery life?

I think I am at the point that the best option....is to just return the thrill.
I tried using it as my dedicated device for a few days now and it just isnt working out. it freezes,locks up, bluetooth is not holding a connection ,just all around does not perform like I expected.
I really want to like it haha....i really like the overall physical feel of the phone. The 3d is great (after waiting a ridiculously long time for it to load) but it is just too sluggish and quirky for me to enjoy daily.
I am most likely going to start from scratch tonight and give it one more week....but without some major magical miracle (like fully working cwm, kernel development and the ability to flash O3D roms) i just dont see myself keeping the thrill.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using XDA App

00mred00 said:
I think I am at the point that the best option....is to just return the thrill.
I tried using it as my dedicated device for a few days now and it just isnt working out. it freezes,locks up, bluetooth is not holding a connection ,just all around does not perform like I expected.
I really want to like it haha....i really like the overall physical feel of the phone. The 3d is great (after waiting a ridiculously long time for it to load) but it is just too sluggish and quirky for me to enjoy daily.
I am most likely going to start from scratch tonight and give it one more week....but without some major magical miracle (like fully working cwm, kernel development and the ability to flash O3D roms) i just dont see myself keeping the thrill.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Really. Mine flies through screen's and apps with Zero Lag including 3D. As far as it sounds to me, sounds like your phone is either defective or loaded with a Ton of apps running in the background constantly. If it's apps running in the background all the time as far as I recall Froyo didn't do the greatest at managing what to shut down and when. Either way goodluck.

Thanks! As for apps...that isn't the issue for sure. There are a number of things the phone does quickly but there are a few it does not. The camera does concern me. When I open the three d can it just goes blank screen for a while and then finally comes up.
Hell even typing at times everything will occassionally just pause for a few.
I haven't given up yet. I am going to hard reset and give her one more go
malickie said:
Really. Mine flies through screen's and apps with Zero Lag including 3D. As far as it sounds to me, sounds like your phone is either defective or loaded with a Ton of apps running in the background constantly. If it's apps running in the background all the time as far as I recall Froyo didn't do the greatest at managing what to shut down and when. Either way goodluck.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my LG-P925 using XDA App

Try using taskiller and set it up to kill apps when the screen is off. That seems to work well for me with app management.
Sent from my LG-P925 using XDA App

taytay209 said:
Try using taskiller and set it up to kill apps when the screen is off. That seems to work well for me with app management.
Sent from my LG-P925 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Personally, I have been using "Autokiller Memory Optimizer," which is NOT a task killer, but allows you to set memory limits.
This may be overly aggressive, but this is the setup I have been using, and it has been treating me very well. From top to bottom, in MB (from "foreground app" to "empty app"): 18 / 24 / 32 /100 / 125 / 150
I may tweak it down a little, but in general this setup has allowed me to multitask between apps really quickly, while Android "kills" the apps I'm no longer using. Highly recommended for (rooted) Thrill users!
While I'm at it, another useful (paid, requires root) tool for the thrill is "Autostarts."

With what I have done so far with SuperPower and such my phone is flying right along and running consistently with between 186 and 202 mb of available memory. So with the processor and RAM hauling ass I am loving this phone. I am can't wait for some some stuff to come down the pipe for this phone. There is definitely a lot of BS stuff running hidden that can slow it down but with SuperPower and the task killer and all the stuff I talked about when I started the thread I am so far satisfied.

Running mine basically how it came straight out of the box, no custom rom, only fancy apps I'm using are appkiller and setcpu right now. Battery life before I got setcpu was... less than desired. But when I got it and configured it to only use as much processor speed as I'd need for my "on the go" usage, I get enough life out of it to last me the whole day, and get home at 20% battery. What I did? Set it so it uses minimal CPU speed (30%)with the screen off, and in calls, and during normal usage it only runs at 60% and that's more than enough to handle my regular usage of texting, emails, calls, browsing, a little bit of gaming, near constant syncing, as well as a good amout of music streaming and maybe only about 50% standby time. Love this phone, dual core with half gig of ram is pretty much complete overkill as far as any phone goes. I fly through Apps only using 60% of the cpu's stock capabilities.now for the times when I'm out longer than normal (over 14 hours a day) I have it set to use minimal CPU speed at 15% battery life and less, in case of emergencies.

I'm returning mine. I either put too many apps, get too many defective phones, or just need a phone with more memory. Never had running out of application room on the Captivate or Inspire.
Camera can take up to 8-10 seconds to finally come on. This is a pain when I want some quick shots of the kids at the moment.
Mine also freezes up while I'm using the keyboard whether it's the stock or swiftkey or better keyboard. This is the 2nd thrill I've had and same issues. So that leaves pretty much the GS2 that's coming out. And Samsung scares me.

Until we get a custom kernel.....i am not aware of anything that will allow us too throttle cpu speed. what are you using? sure the apps will allow you to make setting adjustments yes....but those settings are not sticking (not on the apps I have tried)
irishpunk said:
Running mine basically how it came straight out of the box, no custom rom, only fancy apps I'm using are appkiller and setcpu right now. Battery life before I got setcpu was... less than desired. But when I got it and configured it to only use as much processor speed as I'd need for my "on the go" usage, I get enough life out of it to last me the whole day, and get home at 20% battery. What I did? Set it so it uses minimal CPU speed (30%)with the screen off, and in calls, and during normal usage it only runs at 60% and that's more than enough to handle my regular usage of texting, emails, calls, browsing, a little bit of gaming, near constant syncing, as well as a good amout of music streaming and maybe only about 50% standby time. Love this phone, dual core with half gig of ram is pretty much complete overkill as far as any phone goes. I fly through Apps only using 60% of the cpu's stock capabilities.now for the times when I'm out longer than normal (over 14 hours a day) I have it set to use minimal CPU speed at 15% battery life and less, in case of emergencies.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using XDA App

I'm using the xda app setCPU it's a free download for site members and only requires rooting your phone. Note that the app only controls the max and min speeds of the processor, this isn't overclocking. I don't really know that much about the app beyond what it's supposed to, and seemingly succeeding at doing. Everything that I've done with the app seems to be working fine. I tested it with min and max at only 30% CPU speed (the lowest it seems to allow for), and I definitely felt it in the way my phone responded, the entire time (atleast ten mins) up til I turned the settings back up
00mred00 said:
Until we get a custom kernel.....i am not aware of anything that will allow us too throttle cpu speed. what are you using? sure the apps will allow you to make setting adjustments yes....but those settings are not sticking (not on the apps I have tried)
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my LG-P925 using XDA App

I will play with it again but i recall it doing nothing. it looks like the settings have been changed but they do not stick. Running a few benchmarks showed processor still running at full speed
I did a factory reset...will play with it when i get everything loaded up again.
irishpunk said:
I'm using the xda app setCPU it's a free download for site members and only requires rooting your phone. Note that the app only controls the max and min speeds of the processor, this isn't overclocking. I don't really know that much about the app beyond what it's supposed to, and seemingly succeeding at doing. Everything that I've done with the app seems to be working fine. I tested it with min and max at only 30% CPU speed (the lowest it seems to allow for), and I definitely felt it in the way my phone responded, the entire time (atleast ten mins) up til I turned the settings back up
Sent from my LG-P925 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using XDA App

Haven't done any benchmark tests, my conclusion just came based on the results of improved battery
life to be completely honest.
Sent from my LG-P925 using XDA App

SuperPower can throttle it up a bit. It is one of the settings to be checked off.
Open up SuperPower>scroll down to: CPU Scaling: Enable and check the box
Below that is a box you can check for CPU Scaling: ondemand
Like I said in my original post there are a fair amount of options that gives us the opportunity to have our devices running at their best. I appreciate everyone's postings about what they are trying and so forth. This is how it all begins to getting stuff done. Thanks guys.

Not a problem my good friend, I'm a huge fan of this device and the potentials it possess, I am glad to be a part of any improvements that can be made.
Sent from my LG-P925 using XDA App

I am a goon...underclock works perfectly fine
Sent from my LG-P925 using XDA App

I'm glad you got it working, how's it helping you're battery life?
yeah ironic I know, a die hard Android fan like myself, doing iPhone AppleCare phone support.

47r0n1n said:
SuperPower can throttle it up a bit. It is one of the settings to be checked off.
Open up SuperPower>scroll down to: CPU Scaling: Enable and check the box
Below that is a box you can check for CPU Scaling: ondemand
Like I said in my original post there are a fair amount of options that gives us the opportunity to have our devices running at their best. I appreciate everyone's postings about what they are trying and so forth. This is how it all begins to getting stuff done. Thanks guys.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can't find this settings under super power? Do I need to have a paid version of this app?
---------- Post added at 03:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:50 PM ----------
irishpunk said:
I'm glad you got it working, how's it helping you're battery life?
yeah ironic I know, a die hard Android fan like myself, doing iPhone AppleCare phone support.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you post your setcpu settings?

I'm running my CPU at 600000mHz max and 300000mHz min for normal use, and babe a profile that sets it to 300000mHz max and min with the screen off. Have all my profiles set for "on demand" so it only ramps up the CPU when it needs it
yeah ironic I know, a die hard Android fan like myself, doing iPhone AppleCare phone support.

The great battery impression thread

Hi there! I thought we needed one of these threads to get a clear image of how the phone performs IRL.
We'll all heard rather varying reports from the reviews, some good other disastrous...
1. Please post your impressions of the battery here.
2. Please be specific about how you've used it during the day.
3. Screenshots of the battery settings are most welcome.
4. Show image of screen-on time as well as the list of apps (thanks to Shadehh)
5. Brightness, is it auto? custom? If custom, %? (thanks to Shadehh)
5. 3g / WiFi on? If yes for how long? (thanks to Shadehh)
7. Haptic feedback? (thanks to Shadehh)
.... whatever else comes to mind.
TIP: best would be to simply download 'GSAM Battery Monitor' from the app store and make a screenshot and post the results (it's the most simple and fastest way ) - Shadehh
Thank you!
Swan dive!

Please add these helpful rules to the thread OP
1. Show image of screen-on time as well as the list of apps
2. Brightness, is it auto? custom? If custom, %?
3. 3g / WiFi on? If yes for how long?
4. Haptic feedback?
.... whatever else comes to mind.
TIP: best would be to simply download 'GSAM Battery Monitor' from the app store and make a screenshot and post the results (it's the most simple and fastest way IMO)
thank you
EDIT: Also, ask a mod if you can change your thread title to Battery Stats Thread... the one you have doesn't sound too attractive

shadehh said:
Please add these helpful rules to the thread OP
1. Show image of screen-on time as well as the list of apps
2. Brightness, is it auto? custom? If custom, %?
3. 3g / WiFi on? If yes for how long?
4. Haptic feedback?
.... whatever else comes to mind.
TIP: best would be to simply download 'GSAM Battery Monitor' from the app store and make a screenshot and post the results (it's the most simple and fastest way IMO)
thank you
EDIT: Also, ask a mod if you can change your thread title to Battery Stats Thread... the one you have doesn't sound too attractive
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just downloaded and will report back in a few hours.. Currently at 52% and it is 4:46pm PST
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

I have to say out of all the battery threads with people who do not have the device yet bickering about pre release software this thread actually seems useful. Thanks OP. Hopefully you can get some more people to contribute.
sent from my perfect 32GB Nexus 7

Bzzztm, bzzztm fizzzle.
Do I sound like a battery? Its the best impression I got for one.

tweaked said:
Bzzztm, bzzztm fizzzle.
Do I sound like a battery? Its the best impression I got for one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here's mine.

yes please, we want to see numbers. real life usage is usually different from one another.
it would be a shame if this phone didn't last as long as the S3 since it has the same size of battery coupled with a more efficient chipset and display.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Wow disregard this I did it all wrong -___-

shadehh said:
Please add these helpful rules to the thread OP
1. Show image of screen-on time as well as the list of apps
2. Brightness, is it auto? custom? If custom, %?
3. 3g / WiFi on? If yes for how long?
4. Haptic feedback?
.... whatever else comes to mind.
TIP: best would be to simply downloadGSAM Battery Monitor'[/B][/URL] from the app store and make a screenshot and post the results (it's the most simple and fastest way IMO)
thank you
EDIT: Also, ask a mod if you can change your thread title to Battery Stats Thread... the one you have doesn't sound too attractive
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you for adding additional questions!
Haha, alright, how do i ask a mod?

tweaked said:
Bzzztm, bzzztm fizzzle.
Do I sound like a battery? Its the best impression I got for one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hahaha, My bad

Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

None of these strike me for 'good' battery :/. I get 3-4+ hours screen in the same or longer times :/. I really hope custom kernels, ROMs, and UC will improve the battery, I don't want to be downgrading battery.
Nexus S (GSM i9020a)
AOKP (Milestone 1 - 4.1.2)
Matrix Kernel (24.0 - CFS)
Ondemmand (Screen On) (800/100)
Wheatley (Screen Off) (400/100)
Deep Idle (N/A - Deadline)
BLX (N/A - Inverted Apps)
Black Exodus (Stock Voltage)

From the first screen shot, Android System sucked the most battery. That's simply not right, screen should always be the biggest culprit; its because of this that I believe that the dev community will be able to significantly increase the battery life. Bugless Beast, anyone? Don't lose hope yet.

Yeah battery life isn't a beast like I would want. And I don't even have my other gmail and email account syncing like I did on my other phone :/
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

Media server sucks the most battery for me
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

Try switching off Google Now for a day. I could bet this is an issue

Battery life isn't the best so don't expect 4 hours screen time. Just over 3h 2 mins screen time i managed yesterday.. Google need to sort out it out cause there's something not quiet right.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

Just thought I'd add in an initial impression. After coming off a full charge last night, listening to an hours music this morning over bluetooth, checking facebook and emails i'm down to 92% from 1h 30mins on battery. Big culprits so far are play music and media server. Will take a couple of screenshots at lunchtime and see how things are then

düdldihüü said:
Try switching off Google Now for a day. I could bet this is an issue
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I never enabled it. I even disabled all the apps I don't use.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

Nexus 7 battery life

Hi I have recently purchased a 32gb nexus 7 and I have been having some issues with the battery since the 4.2.1 update, before this update I would get around a day on the battery no problem now I can't seem to get more than 16 hours at the most. My usage includes facebook at night for roughly 2 hours, moderate gaming during the day, and some web browsing in my spare time. All this was never a problem on 4.1 but in 4.2, the battery just seems redundant. I would like to hear your thoughts on your battery life on your nexus 7's thank you.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

How much gaming is moderate?
I noticed my governor was on interactive tonight, which was maxing the CPU even just by touching the screen, I thought my battery life seemed quite good though.
Anyway, I changed my governor to ondemand, and noticed that simply touching the screen only moves the CPU freq to 3-500mhz.. Which is fine for browsing etc... I have also played games, and I haven't noticed any lags... yet... But if there is a really hungry game that I do start to notice a lag in, I'll just put it back to interactive for that game, and meantime I should have better battery life.
Like I said, I only just changed this, so I'm yet to see how much better my battery does, but just from looking at CPU freqs I'd say there's gotta be a decent difference.
There's an idea for an app for some dev... Per app governer setting...
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

I always had excellent battery life, no matter which android version.....

Do you use Google Currents? If not, stop the service and disable it completely.
Furthermore, please post a screenshot of your battery usage.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

dalanik said:
I always had excellent battery life, no matter which android version.....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's pretty damn impressive. How much screen on time is that?
On my second charge I got ~2.5d with about 4-5 hours of screen on (stock). More than satisfactory!

jasopan said:
That's pretty damn impressive. How much screen on time is that?
On my second charge I got ~2.5d with about 4-5 hours of screen on (stock). More than satisfactory!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Looks like 0 screen on to me, device is sitting idle. Mine would last weeks from what I've seen in standby, but yeah, I use my Nexus 7...
knuckles1978 said:
How much gaming is moderate?
I noticed my governor was on interactive tonight, which was maxing the CPU even just by touching the screen, I thought my battery life seemed quite good though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Default governor is intended to max the CPU when you touch the screen, in fact it's an advertised feature for the Nexus 7. There could perhaps be a step up to a higher CPU then higher yet if needed, but the problem with that is you get jumpiness if you switch CPU speeds around when things are going on, like launcher swipes, games, etc.
Per-app governor is already easily done today in Tasker.

Aw man
MatDrOiD said:
Do you use Google Currents? If not, stop the service and disable it completely.
Furthermore, please post a screenshot of your battery usage.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hell naw, just set it to only sink on charge
That means I update my articles in the morning and evening only, and whenever else I plug it in.

khaytsus said:
Per-app governor is already easily done today in Tasker.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for that, I'll check it out. There is no performance loss when web browsing or similar tasks with the on demand, so I'll just use interactive for intensive games, and extend my battery a bit in that case.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

No I do not use Google currents at all, I can't understand how people get so much battery from it whereas I get hardly anything
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

khaytsus said:
Looks like 0 screen on to me, device is sitting idle. Mine would last weeks from what I've seen in standby, but yeah, I use my Nexus 7...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was like 2 hours usage total. I used it only to check my mail and write some replies, check news and such...

khaytsus said:
Per-app governor is already easily done today in Tasker.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, I'm now a happy guy.
Downloaded tasker. I now have my pad set on ondemand for browsing and light duties only with a 1ghz cap which I cannot tell any difference from stock clock,, and then when I launch any intensive games I have tasker automatically overclocking to 1.5Ghz, changing governor to interactive and closing some stuff letting my pad concentrate on the job in hand without me having to do a single thing. Then when I exit my game, tasker automatically clocks back down again and puts the governor back to ondemand.
I also have it automatically only use Sync if the battery is above 40%. I'm liking tasker, and these are only very simple uses for it, some of the example ones are really cool. @khaytsus Thanks again for telling me about it, wouldn't have known otherwise. Now I want to get more into it and seeing what it can really do using the variables etc, and the appmaker.
Another thing about battery. I got my n7 as a US import to the UK, and just noticed today that the charger they supplied me was 700mA instead of 2A,, so I went and bought a UK to US adaptor so I could use the ASUS OEM one, and its charging loads faster, should be nearly 3 times and so far it does seem it. If I was playing a game while charging, say Vice City, before I was able to actually make my N7 lose charge. Not now. So anyone with the slow charge problem please just double check your charger, just in case,, there's probably someone else out there like me that just didn't bother looking and is using a 700mA one.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

Timed from 0% with the 2A charger. 2 hours from empty tank. That's more like it
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

Wow! That was fast! Mine is 3 hours on the stock 4.2 rom and kernel..
Sent from my Nexus 7

This is my battery life running latest CM 10.1 nightly and latest Franco kernel.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

Nice. I'm assuming there wasn't much gaming in your 8hrs of screen time. Still great battery life though. As long as I can do anything I like in the space of a day and be sure that I'm not going to run out then I'm happy.
I am still thinking of investing in one of those 10 or 12,000mAh battery packs though, just for times where I have to leave the house and haven't had the time to give it a full charge.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/EasyAcc-12000mAh-Portable-External-Battery/dp/B008YRG5JQ/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ce_2
http://www.amazon.co.uk/RAVPower®-D...Smartphones/dp/B00974FC2G/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ce_5
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

I do not do a lot of gaming. Mostly browsing the web and reading forums. I am very satisfied with life like that for my uses.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

Stock 4.2.1, m-kernel' cpu1.3; gpu526; LP666. 6 hours of screen on time minimum. Just daily use, with light gaming ( safari ski, etc).
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

ajrich80 said:
I do not do a lot of gaming. Mostly browsing the web and reading forums. I am very satisfied with life like that for my uses.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what's your Franco kernel setup?
Sent from my Nexus 7

My n7 with franco kernel r38 I get around 10-11 hours screen on time if I can keep off gta3

My Take On The Nexus 4

As someone who has tried (and failed) to switch from iOS to Android in the past, I feel I should share this with other who maybe have the same problem.
I have tried some many android devices, HTC, Galaxy S, S2 then S3. Galaxy Note, you name it I've gave it a go.
Problem I always had was that it was too laggy or had too many things missing for me that I loved about iOS
I have once again taken the plunge with the Nexus 4.
I LOVE this phone. LOVE. It is everything a phone should be, to a point. It's the best android phone i've ever owned. I hate the look of touchwiz, never a massive fan of sense, the sheer beauty of the "people" app, should be enough to tell you that google has ARRIVED.
My only bug bears are the obvious lack of storage, which i'm actually doing suprisngly well with, like I have an N7 which I watch films / tv shows on, so the N4 is basically for music, along with spotify it's working like a dream (also have google play with 16,000 songs, which is working well, although download speeds are awful)
The other biggy, and this is the one is the battery life, I've tried franco kernel, cm10, stock kernel, etc etc. There's no two ways about it, with the screen turned on and using 3G it EATS the battery and that saddens me a lot. I'm lucky that I can charge it at work, but lordy lordy lord does it eat a lot. It's a shame, I'm hoping in the future they'll be a fix for this, I mean it's not a show stopper, but it's more annoying than anything else, seeing the battery go down as you use it for browsing and listening to music etc
Other than that, I think I've finally done it, I've finally broken the iOS spell and made the move. I'm delighted, the phone is lovely to look at, lovely to hold and use (and actually works unlike my f*cking iphone which dropped calls left right and centre)
I'm chuffed

Congrats man. It's pretty normal for a new phone to have horrible battery life at first, but then to get a big improvement with software updates.
Suprised that Franco's kernel isn't helping you though.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

steviewevie said:
Congrats man. It's pretty normal for a new phone to have horrible battery life at first, but then to get a big improvement with software updates.
Suprised that Franco's kernel isn't helping you though.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Am wondering if maybe it's something im doing wrong. I may well try and do anything wipe and re-install from scratch etc
Appreciate the reply.

Just switched from galaxy nexus running 4.2 to the iPhone 5. Not sure what to do, spent a bunch on the phone missing android big time.
---------- Post added at 09:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:18 AM ----------
How long would u say the nexus 4 is lasting u? Full day?

Terd Ferguson said:
Just switched from galaxy nexus running 4.2 to the iPhone 5. Not sure what to do, spent a bunch on the phone missing android big time.
---------- Post added at 09:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:18 AM ----------
How long would u say the nexus 4 is lasting u? Full day?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah im getting a full day probably, but it's obviously dependant on use.

try faux kernel. undervolt by -100mv on all frequencies, lower your max frequency to 1134, and change governor to intellidemand. you should see better battery life then:thumbup:
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

lowrider262 said:
try faux kernel. undervolt by -100mv on all frequencies, lower your max frequency to 1134, and change governor to intellidemand. you should see better battery life then:thumbup:
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
okay .... i'll give it a go, dont suppose you have a link to faux kernel app do you?

gsusx said:
okay .... i'll give it a go, dont suppose you have a link to faux kernel app do you?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
faux kernel app is a paid app on the play store. i use trickster mod to change frequency/governor, and system tuner to change voltages. both are free from the play store. just remember to hit the"apply" button if you use trickster mod. also use one of faux's latest beta kernels. I think its up to 003b10
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

lowrider262 said:
faux kernel app is a paid app on the play store. i use trickster mod to change frequency/governor, and system tuner to change voltages. both are free from the play store. just remember to hit the"apply" button if you use trickster mod
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ahh thanks man, appreciate the help

I cant help but think though, that phone manufacturers should stop worrying about siz and weight and just stick a slightly better battery in. I mean a couple off mm and a few grams is hardly gonna put people off buying a phone.
I know for me the first thing i look at is "Battery Life" not size and weight.
I mean look at the iphone 5, it's too ****ing thin, make it the same size as 4s and stick a bigger battery in ffs

Definitely I know for myself that I'm happy with anything below 1.5cm which we know would give a lot more battery life,shame we are stuck with manufacturer's going for thinner phones and the only company to buck the trend is Motorola however their phones currently suck .
Battery life is improving for me I have narrowed it down to the radio, it seems mobile data destroys it much more than ant other phone I have used...WiFi performance is amazing and idle well I can say its the best. This was on the matr1x 4.0 kernel, not stock however.
Not sure why mobile data kills this device but WiFi efficiency is through the roof at least
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

lowrider262 said:
faux kernel app is a paid app on the play store. i use trickster mod to change frequency/governor, and system tuner to change voltages. both are free from the play store. just remember to hit the"apply" button if you use trickster mod. also use one of faux's latest beta kernels. I think its up to 003b10
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hi
have installed faux kernel changed the first couple in trickster but am unsure of how and what to change voltage wise in system tuner ???
any advice ?

Battery life is definitely a problem when using a phone with mobile data on. That's Google's mistake with android 4.2 and hopefully be fixed on 4.2.2.
Also congrats on moving to Android. I also moved from iPhone to android. To nexus s to be exact. The experience wasn't lag free but it did what I needed to and I loved the customization that android brought. Since then, been using android, but only nexus devices as I love pure android look
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

gsusx said:
I cant help but think though, that phone manufacturers should stop worrying about siz and weight and just stick a slightly better battery in. I mean a couple off mm and a few grams is hardly gonna put people off buying a phone.
I know for me the first thing i look at is "Battery Life" not size and weight.
I mean look at the iphone 5, it's too ****ing thin, make it the same size as 4s and stick a bigger battery in ffs
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you realize that the iPhone's battery is about 1400 mAh right? the secret here is an efficient yet limited software.
that's not to say that the 2100 mAh is not big enough for an Android device. it should do just as good if not better than the S3, which has a similar sized battery. something certainly is not working as intended. some say a buggy radio, others speak of the 4.2 and hardware not optimized. whatever it is, i am hopeful that a software update will take care of it.
i generally agree with the OP, i don't see myself using skinned Android anymore. stock android>IOS>skinned android.

Vanilla android >jail broken iOS>90" TV's
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

gsusx said:
hi
have installed faux kernel changed the first couple in trickster but am unsure of how and what to change voltage wise in system tuner ???
any advice ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
open system tuner, press the voltage button, the first voltage (384) should be 900mv. press the -12.5mv a few times until that first one says 800mv, now they're all lowered by 100 you can go further if you want, some chips can handle -150 no problem. but in my experience 100 is pretty safe and enough to notice a difference in battery
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

Android is already better than iOS in terms of users anyway, I would like to just pick at the part of Jobs making the touchscreen...he didnt it was infact HTC that made the first capacitive touchscreen device, Apple just put together all the same hardware 5 years later and marketed the crap out of it which is great its typical apple and now we have an amazing market where Android exists and these high end smartphones are popular and back in the market .

That's apple all over though really isnt it
I mean archos brought out an Mp3 player with video about 3 years before apple did it on the ipod, apple then claimed they invented that, along with the wheel, dinosaurs, and the earth

If you guys are worried about the battery I highly recommend an external battery pack. I know they look sorta gimmicky like that stocking stuffer present you get and never use but there are some sleek looking ones that match the beauty of the nexus 4 and are easy to use. Its sorta like carrying another phone around in terms of weight/size.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

The op said he has access to a charger so what is the problem? It is not like we are in the woods.
You are using a personal computer. If you sit down and listen to music and have the screen on how long do you expect it to last?
I also listen to podcasts bit I know of I do this I will not get an entire day.
When I use the phone normally I get great battery life. Just go into your apps in the panel and look under running. Use titanium backup to freezing what you don't need.
Good luck..
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

[TUT] Extending Battery Life

So our phone has a lithium Ion battery right? Well heres some things most people do not know about this type of battery.
Sorry if this has been posted before!
Li-ion batteries begin to degrade as soon as they start to be used.
One cycle is based on a 100% depth of discharge (e.g. discharging from full to empty), the potential number of charges can be increased by not allowing the battery to become fully discharged before topping it up. For example, allowing a fully charged battery rated at 500 cycles to drop to 50% before recharging could potentially triple the number of charge/discharge cycles to 1500 before the battery capacity degrades, thus increasing the batteries overall lifespan. However, this also means the battery will need to be plugged in more regularly.​
This means that keeping the phone topped up, and not waiting for full discharges will potentially extend the battery life of the phone.
In no way am i saying this a definite thing, as i do not know, and this wont extend your screen on time if that's what your after, it will offer you the same amount of screen on time, for an extended period of time.
So to conclude, charging little and often can extend the life of your battery. In theory anyways. I read up on this from a few articles and websites, too many to reference, but this is the combined knowledge i found.

There are still a lot of people who thinks that you must discharge to empty.
This was required when NiCd batteries were in use. Li-Ion are different.
Thanks for posting that! :highfive:

I have read on Note 3 forums how people cry about their battery life.
Thwir new software upgrade lowered thwir screen ON time to "only" 4-5 hours from 6-7. Whereby I am more then happy if i get 2-3 hours of screen time.
It makes me question my battery and software...
Sent from my OptimusX4HD using xda app-developers app

Zhus06 said:
I have read on Note 3 forums how people cry about their battery life.
Thwir new software upgrade lowered thwir screen ON time to "only" 4-5 hours from 6-7. Whereby I am more then happy if i get 2-3 hours of screen time.
It makes me question my battery and software...
Sent from my OptimusX4HD using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They have 3200 ma battery, we have 2150. They have super amoled screen, we have IPS LCD, they have S800 soc, we have tegra 3. Enough said.
Sent from my LG-P880 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

I normally get around 3-4 hours screen-on time.

[email protected] said:
They have 3200 ma battery, we have 2150. They have super amoled screen, we have IPS LCD, they have S800 soc, we have tegra 3. Enough said.
Sent from my LG-P880 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You could just the mention the difference of ma in each, that alone should be enough

MidnightDevil said:
You could just the mention the difference of ma in each, that alone should be enough
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Guys you would be jealous of this. But see this screenshot. My phone is now 13 months old. I m on the CM 11 nightly. This is the Jan 15th build.

prem911 said:
Guys you would be jealous of this. But see this screenshot. My phone is now 13 months old. I m on the CM 11 nightly. This is the Jan 15th build.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please just don't Post it in each thread here
Sent from my LG-P880 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

sPEADy said:
Please just don't Post it in each thread here
Sent from my LG-P880 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Friend, I wrote it looking at the topic of the thread. Hope this will help people who are looking to optimise their battery by tweaking some settings in CM 11.
At least helpful to those who have subscribed to this thread !

@sPEADy and @prem911 what ROM + kernel combos are you guys using ? :good:

@sprite048 I am using the nightly form 07th January.......and all defualt CM did'nt change anything

best battery saving strategy:
1) turn off wifi and 3g
2) put down your phone and pick up a book to read
3) dont touch you phone, use the landline to make call and laptop for messaging
right, speady?
Just kidding, WiFi and 3G are actually your battery killer. I'm currently using CM11 and can have 3 hours light gaming (Plague Inc.) with 700MHz CPU and 200MHz GPU settings. Another tip is dont use background process (such as news, email or even swiftkey; Google location accessing as well), they do wake your phone up regularly to sense if you have connection with the Internet Lord.

sPEADy said:
Please just don't Post it in each thread here
Sent from my LG-P880 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But screen time?
Thanks

klbterminator said:
best battery saving strategy:
1) turn off wifi and 3g
2) put down your phone and pick up a book to read
3) dont touch you phone, use the landline to make call and laptop for messaging
right, speady?
Just kidding, WiFi and 3G are actually your battery killer. I'm currently using CM11 and can have 3 hours light gaming (Plague Inc.) with 700MHz CPU and 200MHz GPU settings. Another tip is dont use background process (such as news, email or even swiftkey; Google location accessing as well), they do wake your phone up regularly to sense if you have connection with the Internet Lord.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wrong I do use my phone a lot and have pretty bad signal at my supermarket where I work and always have 3g on at work and wifi at home.
tiflao said:
But screen time?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do get 2 and half hours of screen time with 2 days usage. I did post in Carbon Rom 4.2.2 thread 4 hours of screen on time few months back so I do use my phone a lot when needed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43786162#post43786162