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My phone keeps turning brightness way down by itself with this message. All temperature readings are fine. Any ideas?
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JVogler said:
My phone keeps turning brightness way down by itself with this message. All temperature readings are fine. Any ideas?
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I too am having the same issue, however i believe that my issues is slightly different from yours. I noticed maybe about 2 days after i purchased the phone that mostly anytime I am using the browser, whether it be Chrome or the stock browser my screen automatically adjusts itself. I went into settings and made sure that the brightness was not set at "Auto" and turned all the way up. I also made sure that reading mode, auto adjust screen tone, and color adjustment were all turned off. I also changed the screen mode to dynamic and I seem to still have this same issue. I read on another forum for T-Mobile users that there are a lot of consumers experiencing this same issue, not sure if carriers are doing swap outs for the phones as this may not be related to a HW issue but rather a SW issue.
That sounds exactly like what I'm experiencing. Except I work outside, so when it does this it's impossible to see my phone. If you get a chance the next time this happens can you go into settings and open the brightness slider to see if you also can get this error message to appear? That seems to be the only place I find the message, it doesn't just pop up or anything. I too have checked like 10 times to make sure all the other display settings are correct, like automatically adjust tone and such. It sucks that auto brightness cannot be fine tune with the slider like it could on the note 2. I'm finding it very strange that instead of adding to features of the Note 2 to make this phone better in every area they chose to remove some great features leaving me wishing I did not upgrade.
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This is a problem affecting a bunch of people. There are a couple threads - For example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2467005[Q] Reboot cycle after restart help
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It sounds like thermal throttling. LG phones have this, in particular the Optimus G and G Pro. I haven't had the problem on my G2 yet. It's designed to lower the brightness and lower the cpu speed in order to keep the phone from overheating.
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money226 said:
It sounds like thermal throttling. LG phones have this, in particular the Optimus G and G Pro. I haven't had the problem on my G2 yet. It's designed to lower the brightness and lower the cpu speed in order to keep the phone from overheating.
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True my LG Optimus G pro does this but there is a way to turn it off in the system menu accessible from the dialer. I have turned mine off and the phone no longer does this and has not gotten hot or anything. Wish there was a way to do this on the samsung as my S4 exhibits this same behavior.
I'm thinking about getting a Note 3 today so I'm hoping can be shut off too. I shut it off on my G Pro and the G2 doesn't do it, which I'm very thankful for since I work outside as well.
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Since we're on this subject, how often does it happen on the Samsungs? I would figure less often due to amoled not being as bright as LCD.
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That sounds exactly like what I'm experiencing. Except I work outside, so when it does this it's impossible to see my phone. If you get a chance the next time this happens can you go into settings and open the brightness slider to see if you also can get this error message to appear? That seems to be the only place I find the message, it doesn't just pop up or anything. I too have checked like 10 times to make sure all the other display settings are correct, like automatically adjust tone and such. It sucks that auto brightness cannot be fine tune with the slider like it could on the note 2. I'm finding it very strange that instead of adding to features of the Note 2 to make this phone better in every area they chose to remove some great features leaving me wishing I did not upgrade.
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You may be better served to leave the auto brightness checked when your working outside. When on auto, it gets much brighter when needed than with the brightness slider cranked all the way up.
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Note 3 automatic brightness settings problems
I have a Samsung Note 3 phone bought in Germany. I have the some strange problems with brightness settings too. Typically from time to time the phone screen just get too dark. Particular in economic mode the phone can get from time to time very dark and even setting auto brightness to +5 does not help.
I was using before both Iphone 5 and the first Samsung Note and some other phones and automatic brightness control was always working fine. In my new Note 3 the brightness is jumping sometimes suddenly.
JVogle: You can adjust the automatic brightness by pulling slider up or down. It can by set from -5 to +5. But in my case this thing do not help so much. Particularly this is a bigger problem again in economic mode.
This is rather a software issue, because when I switch to manual brightness it stays constant all the time.
Anybody knows how to cure it?
This is so annoying. Gotta wonder if it's a bug in one of Samsungs ****ty features causing it to happen so much. Even without brightness all the way up it happens
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firstmithrandir said:
I have a Samsung Note 3 phone bought in Germany. I have the some strange problems with brightness settings too. Typically from time to time the phone screen just get too dark. Particular in economic mode the phone can get from time to time very dark and even setting auto brightness to +5 does not help.
I was using before both Iphone 5 and the first Samsung Note and some other phones and automatic brightness control was always working fine. In my new Note 3 the brightness is jumping sometimes suddenly.
JVogle: You can adjust the automatic brightness by pulling slider up or down. It can by set from -5 to +5. But in my case this thing do not help so much. Particularly this is a bigger problem again in economic mode.
This is rather a software issue, because when I switch to manual brightness it stays constant all the time.
Anybody knows how to cure it?
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You have a different phone than me apparently. Also a different issue, as I'm referring ONLY to manual screen brightness setting. I would expect fluctuations with auto brightness. I've never had a device fluctuate when manually set to a desired % though. I also can't believe they removed the ability to adjust slider with auto brightness. Sadly the only thing better about this phone than my Note2 is the specs. The software and user experience has been sub Note2 for me in every aspect. I will most likely be switching back to the Note2.
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brightness issue
I have tmobile and I've had my phone for about a month and now I notice when it's in standby and I hit the power button to wake the phone the screen is really dim for about 10 seconds or so and then it brightens up. My brightness is on max and the auto brightness is disab
Does anyone else have this issue? Every time you lock/unlock the brightness auto adjusts again (and it adjusts pretty low)
So even if I manually set it to 100% and lock/unlock it will be down to 25% again. Doesn't seem like it's learning at all
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Does anyone else have this issue? Every time you lock/unlock the brightness auto adjusts again (and it adjusts pretty low)
So even if I manually set it to 100% and lock/unlock it will be down to 25% again. Doesn't seem like it's learning at all
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Seems like it takes a lot of time to learn. I don't use it anyway I prefer having control on it
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Does anyone else have this issue? Every time you lock/unlock the brightness auto adjusts again (and it adjusts pretty low)
So even if I manually set it to 100% and lock/unlock it will be down to 25% again. Doesn't seem like it's learning at all
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Seems like a bug honestly, because it goes TOO LOW. I tried to lock the device several times to see if the "learning" of the slider improves, but it still goes back to the same spot... I'm gonna keep it deactivated until they fix it.
Android Pie has AI in basically everything and it learns for you, just keep adjusting the brightness manually and in a few days it'll know how you like your brightness and adjust it for you.
I care about to go low! And now I can't go below 19% with Adaptive ON, it's to high for a dark room.
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Seems like a bug honestly, because it goes TOO LOW. I tried to lock the device several times to see if the "learning" of the slider improves, but it still goes back to the same spot... I'm gonna keep it deactivated until they fix it.
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Actually I've been reading similar things about this on the pixel so it might just be the way it is. Might take long for it to learn. I read someone say it's always fun when he first unlocks it
And I found this link of people claiming it is like this the first few days until you train it better
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...daptive_brightness_work_for/#thing_t1_e3yv49m
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And I found this link of people claiming it is like this the first few days until you train it better
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...daptive_brightness_work_for/#thing_t1_e3yv49m
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Yeah it could be the new implementation of the AI, I'm gonna use it for a few days to see if it gets better
This has started happening to me since yesterday. I've been using Pie for a month now (December update). What I've noticed is that it goes down to about 25% every time I cover the brightness sensor with my finger (usually when watching YT) and it stays there no matter what. It's pretty annoying having to always adjust it like that. Using "Sensors Monitor" app I see that the sensor is working correctly so it's a software "feature".
Any suggestions on how to mitigate it besides using "Velis Auto Brightness" app?
How do we know its 'AI'? Has it 'adapted' for anyone till now? That brings us tk the question, what was wrong with Auto Brightness in Oreo? Just because there's piece of code that's new, doesn't mean its versatile.
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How do we know its 'AI'? Has it 'adapted' for anyone till now? That brings us tk the question, what was wrong with Auto Brightness in Oreo? Just because there's piece of code that's new, doesn't mean its versatile.
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Three words.
Mar ket ing
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Three words.
Mar ket ing
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Yeah, and some of us would be fixing what was intentionally broke. Interesting, what would Android be without the community working as the underdog?
Oh, and AI (its Computational Intelligence) is the new cheaper, efficient corporate slave working to enslave the many.
Every amoled screen I had was burned after some time. Mostly on the status bar. Once it was WhatsApp.
This time I want to prevent or delay it as long as possible. What recommendations do you have?
Never understood how people managed with burn ins. Well, stop watching a static picture with 100% brightness for 5hrs in a row is a good start.
i have owned more than a dozen samsung products with amoled screens, never had burn in on one of them. I always keep the screen very bright because my eyesight isnt that great. the one lg amoled phone i owned had terrible screen burn
The factors involved are: heat (ext), brightness (curr), uneven degradation rate of each color (rgb), persistent elements, and age (of panel). If half a screen is black and the other is blue, at max brightness, the blue subpixels are under the most stress. Their decay rate will overshadow the resting blue lights - plus that of green and red.
5yrs from now you're going to look at an all white image. Half of it will look awful.
Thanks guys, but not really helping, are you?
Fall asleep once with your phone under your face and you'll have a burn in your amoled screen. Probably many other ways.
This is a common issue that most people don't even notice.
I get how it happens. I'm looking for ways to prevent it.
Setting a screen timeout is helpful
Had every Samsung for years and never had this, so I've no idea.
Maybe some people don't have a screen timeout and fall asleep sometimes dunno
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Do i remember wrong, but didint Samsung add pixel shifting at least for their launcher elements which stay at same of screen all the time?
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Do i remember wrong, but didint Samsung add pixel shifting at least for their launcher elements which stay at same of screen all the time?
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I don't remember that. I know they had it on their Plasma TVs. I thought the Pixel phones with OLED screens also had it but don't know about Samsung phones. I do think that 99.9% of people that use a phone normally will never experience burn-in for the time they own the phone.
Use full immersive mode to hide the status bar and the top and bottom. Turn off auto brightness because if you leave it on and go in sun the brightness get high.
Screen time out to 15 seconds
Leave the brightness slider 50 percent or less
If you use aod make sure to flip the phone so it turns off when not using it
Use youtube in full screen if you use it a lot
These are my tips as I've had my screen changed 4 times due to burn in on my note 8.now using these methods my screen so far has no burn in
For me it's always was the top status bar that would burn in
But now I should never experience burn in ever again now I've actively tried to avoid it
Everyone I know that swears blind they don't have burn and have never had that issue on any device I immediately grab there phone and look closely on a complety grey background and 100 percent of them have status bar burn in at the top at the very least
No way am I turning stuff off to avoid something I've never seen
900 quid to have to suffer immersive mode utter lols, if I have to did that I'll sell it
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I also honestly don't know what you're talking about. I've had s3, s5, s7, s9 and now to s10. Never had anything of the sort and since s7 I've been using AOD. Nothing happend. For the love of me I can't imagine how you may have had anything wrong with the display....
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Use full immersive mode to hide the status bar and the top and bottom. Turn off auto brightness because if you leave it on and go in sun the brightness get high.
Screen time out to 15 seconds
Leave the brightness slider 50 percent or less
If you use aod make sure to flip the phone so it turns off when not using it
Use youtube in full screen if you use it a lot
These are my tips as I've had my screen changed 4 times due to burn in on my note 8.now using these methods my screen so far has no burn in
For me it's always was the top status bar that would burn in
But now I should never experience burn in ever again now I've actively tried to avoid it
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Exactly, it's always the status bar. I think there is no immersive mode on s10+ yet, but I removed all the icons.
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Everyone I know that swears blind they don't have burn and have never had that issue on any device I immediately grab there phone and look closely on a complety grey background and 100 percent of them have status bar burn in at the top at the very least
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THANK YOU
I'm pretty sure many think they never had a burn in on their precious amoled screen, but they actually had.
Well they probably aren't looking for it that closely
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Every amoled screen I had was burned after some time. Mostly on the status bar. Once it was WhatsApp.
This time I want to prevent or delay it as long as possible. What recommendations do you have?
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Lol, sorry to see everyone busting you up on this....because you know, it's always more helpful to give someone a bad time to ensure a post count increment, than to be useful and offer up some insight.
Well, I have had screen burn in occur on 3 different galaxy phones. Not from falling asleep, not from being clueless...but from using my phone with games. 2 were mine and 1 on My wife's..hers occurred from youtube.
I used to play clash of clans tons, got burn in from the smaller stats numbers at the top- over time...But replaced the phone no sweat. Verizon insurance took the phone as a defect, noted as screen image ghosting, no charge. I just didn't realize that it was an issue playing, but it was over time. I think it was an s6. The reps in the store were as surprised as I was that it had occurred.
Different device & model, S7 , but same thing occurred, not in the same game either...This time with clash royale- the towers and little cloud icon burned in from too much playing and too often, apparently. I thought I had been a bit more careful, but i think it was the frequency in which I was playing versus overall time.
This time I simply contacted support in the chat about the ghosting, they replaced it again as a defect, no charge.
My wife's occurred on the s7, hers was the top bar because of YouTube, too much & too often. So, did the same for my wife's phone through Verizon insurance, they replaced as a screen ghosting defect.
After I noted what was going on, she made adjustments, didn't happen again to either of us.
Both of us are on the 10s now and very aware this can occur. So, you just need to make sure you're not on those static images or bars or icons for either long periods or frequent shorter periods...it takes time, but it happens, despite popular misconception.
It is only really noticable on a white background, like when looking at mostly blank new tab in chrome.
On the last device, the S7, I made sure to cut the amount of time spent on static images, especially the games. I still kept the brightness always max during the day, nights it was at the lowest setting.
And yes, I kept my settings the same after the replacement, just made adjustments to my gaming approach. I didn't want to baby the phone screen settings, shouldn't have to. No issues on that one after adjusting my approach.
So, it's certainly possible to avoid and I bet there's many out there that use certain apps for long periods and frequently just do not really notice it may have occurred, even if slightly.. and I'm taking heavy users.
A note app with a clean page or white blank background reveals it, most of the time you're not using that, so ignorance is bliss...and makes It's easier for folks to bust on someone else for asking about screen burn in because they themselves are simply clueless it even remotely occured with them.
Heavy user naysayers, check your old phones, just for the heck of it... and then keep the findings to yourself because no one actually cares about you being right or wrong.
Anyway, it was an inconvenient lesson at the time,for me but good to know and learn from. Didn't cost me much but time, as it just took up time set up the phones again.
I know Samsung isn't too concerned about it or they wouldn't have preinstalled games on the phone (ie. solataire).
Just do your best to adjust your screen settings, like those that mentioned, if you're into that. Or simply adjust your apps/usage habits.
Don't overlook the Digital Wellbeing settings on the S10...that may also help you target certain apps with a timer also. Might be something useful for you.
Hope that helps some.
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sainthooligan said:
Lol, sorry to see everyone busting you up on this....because you know, it's always more helpful to give someone a bad time to ensure a post count increment, than to be useful and offer up some insight.
Well, I have had screen burn in occur on 3 different galaxy phones. Not from falling asleep, not from being clueless...but from using my phone with games. 2 were mine and 1 on My wife's..hers occurred from youtube.
I used to play clash of clans tons, got burn in from the smaller stats numbers at the top- over time...But replaced the phone no sweat. Verizon insurance took the phone as a defect, noted as screen image ghosting, no charge. I just didn't realize that it was an issue playing, but it was over time. I think it was an s6. The reps in the store were as surprised as I was that it had occurred.
Different device & model, S7 , but same thing occurred, not in the same game either...This time with clash royale- the towers and little cloud icon burned in from too much playing and too often, apparently. I thought I had been a bit more careful, but i think it was the frequency in which I was playing versus overall time.
This time I simply contacted support in the chat about the ghosting, they replaced it again as a defect, no charge.
My wife's occurred on the s7, hers was the top bar because of YouTube, too much & too often. So, did the same for my wife's phone through Verizon insurance, they replaced as a screen ghosting defect.
After I noted what was going on, she made adjustments, didn't happen again to either of us.
Both of us are on the 10s now and very aware this can occur. So, you just need to make sure you're not on those static images or bars or icons for either long periods or frequent shorter periods...it takes time, but it happens, despite popular misconception.
It is only really noticable on a white background, like when looking at mostly blank new tab in chrome.
On the last device, the S7, I made sure to cut the amount of time spent on static images, especially the games. I still kept the brightness always max during the day, nights it was at the lowest setting.
And yes, I kept my settings the same after the replacement, just made adjustments to my gaming approach. I didn't want to baby the phone screen settings, shouldn't have to. No issues on that one after adjusting my approach.
So, it's certainly possible to avoid and I bet there's many out there that use certain apps for long periods and frequently just do not really notice it may have occurred, even if slightly.. and I'm taking heavy users.
A note app with a clean page or white blank background reveals it, most of the time you're not using that, so ignorance is bliss...and makes It's easier for folks to bust on someone else for asking about screen burn in because they themselves are simply clueless it even remotely occured with them.
Heavy user naysayers, check your old phones, just for the heck of it... and then keep the findings to yourself because no one actually cares about you being right or wrong.
Anyway, it was an inconvenient lesson at the time,for me but good to know and learn from. Didn't cost me much but time, as it just took up time set up the phones again.
I know Samsung isn't too concerned about it or they wouldn't have preinstalled games on the phone (ie. solataire).
Just do your best to adjust your screen settings, like those that mentioned, if you're into that. Or simply adjust your apps/usage habits.
Don't overlook the Digital Wellbeing settings on the S10...that may also help you target certain apps with a timer also. Might be something useful for you.
Hope that helps some.
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Thank you for your insight. I wouldn't be able to return it if it happens.
I'm also worry the AOD can cause burn in. I never used it before because I had a notification led...
I know it moves around, but is that enough? I also turn it off 8hs a day.
lumiden said:
Thank you for your insight. I wouldn't be able to return it if it happens.
I'm also worry the AOD can cause burn in. I never used it before because I had a notification led...
I know it moves around, but is that enough? I also turn it off 8hs a day.
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You can set the schedule for the time for the AOD is active and either use the AOD auto brightness option or set the brightness lower, if that helps you feel more confident with it. The movement should help avoid issues.
FWIW, I used AOD with my previous phone without any issue and I anticipate the same with this one.
My burn in issue was only with the games & YouTube as noted.
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This is my main issue with AMOLED screens. They look nice but they wear out. The nature of Android means they will wear out unevenly which is why people see burn in. The wearing out of your screen is cumulative. Meaning that it isn't like an old CRT TV where it would take weeks of a static image to burn in but just showing the same image over time day in and day out. The only way to prevent it is to use the entire screen with moving images, like full screen movies, so that the panel wears evenly.
The status bar and navigation bar tend to be on the screen all the time those images will burn in first. Dark mode can also cause issues because if the area is dark it isn't being used and if it isn't being used it will look brighter than other areas that were used more frequently. The s10 has a full screen mode option for some apps. Some apps like Netflix will show the full screen movie even around the camera cutout and that is ideal. Youtube will also allow you to zoom in and show the video around the camera. cutout Chrome and the Samsung browser keep the status bar but it will change colors based on the site and if the bar is white it will invert the status icons which will help keep the panel wearing evenly. I have the dolphin browser which runs in full screen but the top portion of the panel is not used so that is less than ideal.
Auto brightness can be used but in the bright sun that panel is wearing much faster. The screen time out should be set to 15 seconds. These panels are designed to look great but not be super durable and in many cases that's what Samsung wants. They benefit when you have to buy a new device. It's sad to say but its business.
Greetings,
Just received a used device and noticed my unit won't physically lower in brightness at around 25 percent. What I mean is that at around the 25 percent mark, I am unable to perceive it getting any lower when set at a lower percentage. I've also noticed that when I have the brightness at a high percentage and then quickly lower it to the minimum, that the display will at first be quite dim then will suddenly raise itself to a slightly brighter minimum. I do not have auto brightness on, nor any filter apps active while testing. Just wondering if this issue is isolated to my device. Thank you for reading my concern. If anything is unclear, I could try taking a video of the issues. Anyone else with these issues? I've searched the web to no avail.
i just bought a used device as well and mine has the same issues. the backlight seems to flicker on the second screen at low brightness and below about half the second screen is noticably dimmer. its unfortunate that they didn't put a lot of effort into the screen software or quality considering its the main gimmick of this phone, but it is made by ZTE after all. the price you probably paid for one of these things is a lot more representative of the quality than the original MSRP. But its still a fun gimmick even with all the flaws.
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i just bought a used device as well and mine has the same issues. the backlight seems to flicker on the second screen at low brightness and below about half the second screen is noticably dimmer. its unfortunate that they didn't put a lot of effort into the screen software or quality considering its the main gimmick of this phone, but it is made by ZTE after all. the price you probably paid for one of these things is a lot more representative of the quality than the original MSRP. But its still a fun gimmick even with all the flaws.
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Thanks for your thoughts and input. Yeah this is quite unfortunate on how the phone turned out. I also see the flicker on the second display. But as you mentioned, the device is indeed quite fun. I'm actually thoroughly enjoying the device especially with books and comics reading in the extended mode. I tend to do some late night reading, so that was the reason why I brought up the display issue as I had wanted to get the display as dim as possible before applying a filter. Hopefully one day we'll get root to check out if we can lower the display minimum brightness level along with other lower level system modifications.
axxtran said:
Thanks for your thoughts and input. Yeah this is quite unfortunate on how the phone turned out. I also see the flicker on the second display. But as you mentioned, the device is indeed quite fun. I'm actually thoroughly enjoying the device especially with books and comics reading in the extended mode. I tend to do some late night reading, so that was the reason why I brought up the display issue as I had wanted to get the display as dim as possible before applying a filter. Hopefully one day we'll get root to check out if we can lower the display minimum brightness level along with other lower level system modifications.
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apparently a few weeks ago someone released TWRP for this device. its not quite a root but it still gives you root access to change the build.prop and some low level system settings. TWRP is the sign that there is some kind of development happening but i wouldn't hedge your bets on anybody fixing the screen issues even with some kind of kernel modification
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apparently a few weeks ago someone released TWRP for this device. its not quite a root but it still gives you root access to change the build.prop and some low level system settings. TWRP is the sign that there is some kind of development happening but i wouldn't hedge your bets on anybody fixing the screen issues even with some kind of kernel modification
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That is definitely a most welcome update. I'm curious on what build your device is on since you mentioned having similar issues to mine. I am on b30 myself and will be flashing to b37 when I get a chance to see if there are any differences.
Hi everyone,
Got my Pixel 4 XL on the 23rd and been playing around with it since then. I am now settling into a rhythm and noticed a very concerning glitch with the display when the phone is in dark mode. Basically, when the phone is in dark mode I noticed that typing in Gboard or tapping anywhere on screen in apps that are not pure black (such as Messages, Phone, etc.) will shift the screen colour from blueish-black to greenish-black. This happens every time, even after rebooting the device. There is no visible colour shifting in apps that use pure-black such as Settings (however, parts of Settings like the search bar that are the "gray" dark colour also shift). Once I noticed this happening now I cannot stop noticing it everywhere. I am looking to find out from you whether you are seeing the same thing or whether this may be a device problem. Note that the same issue shows up in dark apps even if dark mode is not enabled. It also has nothing to do with Ambient EQ, Automatic Brightness, or anything else of similar nature. Occasionally the problem stops, but if I pull up Gboard and start typing (say to search in the Recent section of the phone app) the problem immediately comes back.
I am looking for serious feedback here from those willing to look closely. This does seem like a software glitch to me, rather than hardware, especially since I am not seeing this behaviour with any other colours and so far it definitely has something to do with physical interaction with the screen when tapping on it. As I said, it also seems to be universally triggered by Gboard when in apps running in dark mode.
I appreciate any feedback you can provide.
Edit: Looks like what I'm observing is related to the switching colour profiles when the display is going back and forth between 60Hz and 90Hz. Turning off the smooth display function or forcing the display into permanent 90Hz mode appears to stop the problem from happening. Google really messed this one up. I hope their 90Hz fix they promised clears up this issue. Very annoyed ?
Thanks,
Dejan
Btw, since you are using forced 90hz display make sure to have always on display on. If you don't your greys will be purple and lower brightness as well as lots of black smear/crush. I don't know how turning on always on display solved that issue (someone posted this fix in another thread). So it indeed doesn't seem to be hardware but software related and hopefully they will tune this over time.
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Btw, since you are using forced 90hz display make sure to have always on display on. If you don't your greys will be purple and lower brightness as well as lots of black smear/crush. I don't know how turning on always on display solved that issue (someone posted this fix in another thread). So it indeed doesn't seem to be hardware but software related and hopefully they will tune this over time.
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Yeah, I saw that thread. Some funky stuff going on with display calibration and 90Hz. Since I know that the HW is not defective and the SW is the source of the issue I am less bothered now (I cannot stand exchanging HW). I haven't specifically observed that effect on my phone and while I did try forcing 90Hz, I actually went back to the stock setting since I noticed that forced 90Hz further sucked down the battery that already is not particularly stellar despite this being the XL version. I presume Google will refine the 90Hz calibration and function over the next few months. I will say though that I am a bit confused why they need to have different calibration at different refresh rates. I calibrate all of my desktop monitors and despite the fact that I have a 100Hz monitor I never have to change calibration with refresh rate. Maybe an OLED thing :shrug:
dhorgas said:
Hi everyone,
Got my Pixel 4 XL on the 23rd and been playing around with it since then. I am now settling into a rhythm and noticed a very concerning glitch with the display when the phone is in dark mode. Basically, when the phone is in dark mode I noticed that typing in Gboard or tapping anywhere on screen in apps that are not pure black (such as Messages, Phone, etc.) will shift the screen colour from blueish-black to greenish-black. This happens every time, even after rebooting the device. There is no visible colour shifting in apps that use pure-black such as Settings (however, parts of Settings like the search bar that are the "gray" dark colour also shift). Once I noticed this happening now I cannot stop noticing it everywhere. I am looking to find out from you whether you are seeing the same thing or whether this may be a device problem. Note that the same issue shows up in dark apps even if dark mode is not enabled. It also has nothing to do with Ambient EQ, Automatic Brightness, or anything else of similar nature. Occasionally the problem stops, but if I pull up Gboard and start typing (say to search in the Recent section of the phone app) the problem immediately comes back.
I am looking for serious feedback here from those willing to look closely. This does seem like a software glitch to me, rather than hardware, especially since I am not seeing this behaviour with any other colours and so far it definitely has something to do with physical interaction with the screen when tapping on it. As I said, it also seems to be universally triggered by Gboard when in apps running in dark mode.
I appreciate any feedback you can provide.
Edit: Looks like what I'm observing is related to the switching colour profiles when the display is going back and forth between 60Hz and 90Hz. Turning off the smooth display function or forcing the display into permanent 90Hz mode appears to stop the problem from happening. Google really messed this one up. I hope their 90Hz fix they promised clears up this issue. Very annoyed ?
Thanks,
Dejan
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I just noticed this on my pixel 4 xl tonight. But It only happens when the proximity sensor is triggered. Ex: like after making a phone call except it made everything on the screen seem over saturated on the screen and well as the same color shift you had stated. It seems to go away once I lock the device and unlock it again. It did it with smooth display on and off as well as force 90hz on and off.
There are a couple threads discussing this. Here's one of them:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-4-xl/how-to/smooth-display-colour-issues-t4000087
And another:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3998907
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