As an experiment, I thought I try to live a while without Gapps for as long as possible. I've done a fresh install of OmniRom 4.4 without a Gapps package. I've flashed ES file explorer so that I can install APKs. I'll be interested to see what the phone's performance is like with such things as Google's play service being active. And whether I can live without the Play Store
I'd be interested to know your experiences in doing this, and whether living without Gapps is more prominent than I thought.
Tried it.. Better privacy, but I can't really live without constantly trying new apps.
So.. Perhaps it will work if you're a user that only needs certain apps and doesn't really care about the newest updates and stuff.
But the performance (and battery life) will be noticeably better, I think.
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WhiteNeo said:
Tried it.. Better privacy, but I can't really live without constantly trying new apps.
So.. Perhaps it will work if you're a user that only needs certain apps and doesn't really care about the newest updates and stuff.
But the performance (and battery life) will be noticeably better, I think.
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I've been playing around for the past couple of hours. You're right. Both performance and battery has noticeably improved. Finding and installing up to date APKs for the apps I use has been straightforward too.
I can not, in any way, get GPS to work (or at least to show it's working.) My phone cannot define its location. From what I've been reading, this seems to be a regular occurrence when Gapps hasn't been installed. Does anyone know of a way around this?
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I've been playing around for the past couple of hours. You're right. Both performance and battery has noticeably improved. Finding and installing up to date APKs for the apps I use has been straightforward too.
I can not, in any way, get GPS to work (or at least to show it's working.) My phone cannot define its location. From what I've been reading, this seems to be a regular occurrence when Gapps hasn't been installed. Does anyone know of a way around this?
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I think you need to have gapps to show the prompt about this location stuff to make it work. (Has something to do with OneTimeInitializer.apk if I remember correctly ^^)
So the workaround might be:
backup,
flash gapps,
then boot up and activate gps (answer the prompt of course ;D),
then reboot to recovery and
do an advanced restore (only system partition), so the data you need to activate gps stays unharmed.
Hope you understand me mate
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O.K. Wearing my tinfoil hat. Looked and couldn't find the processes that might operate this rootkit on my Bionic, but I really can't be certain what I am looking for.
The HTC versions were IQAgent and IQRD. Nothing similar that I have found, but I'll bet they are there somewhere.
Anyone found anything?
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/11/secret-software-logging-video
RMD
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I've heard that it could be disguised as Contacts Sync and ContactsData. They have the same icon (although that doesn't mean much).
I haven't been able to determine if its the same thing or not.
Anyone able to confirm that the Bionic is CarrierIQ free?
I tried the Logging test tool, but if they renamed the app it won't work.
Either way, this thing is going to cause such a lawsuit with huge repercussion. (which they deserve)
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I've heard that it could be disguised as Contacts Sync and ContactsData. They have the same icon (although that doesn't mean much).
I haven't been able to determine if its the same thing or not.
Anyone able to confirm that the Bionic is CarrierIQ free?
I tried the Logging test tool, but if they renamed the app it won't work.
Either way, this thing is going to cause such a lawsuit with huge repercussion. (which they deserve)
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Likewise, I ran the "CIQ Checks" test in the "Logging Test App" by xda member TrevE mentioned in this article as a reliable way of testing for the presence of CIQ: http://lifehacker.com/5863895/carri...everything-on-your-phone-and-how-to-remove-it The test completed running and nothing showed up in the "CIQ File List" so I'm assuming the Bionic is clean.
I don't think the Contacts Sync and ContactsData icons are a reliable way to test for CIQ. Found this on another site: "The icon is a default icon, not specific to Carrier IQ. It can't help you determine whether or not CIQ is present."
After all the latest news about the rootkit that is allowing apps to bypass requests and can track what you're doing on the phone, I have found that particular app on our Bionics.
First, read this article:
http://www.helloandroid.com/content/are-carriers-illegally-tapping-your-android-phone
Next, go to settings, applications, manage applications, all applications tab, and look for the Fake Blur app. I am rooted and rommed and noticed that I still have this app. Is it something that we should be worried about? Has anyone tried uninstalling it and seeing if the phone still works without it?
Well, for whatever it's worth:
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/1/2602532/verizon-carrier-iq-denial
So that would seem to strongly support the idea that the Bionic lacks CIQ.
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After all the latest news about the rootkit that is allowing apps to bypass requests and can track what you're doing on the phone, I have found that particular app on our Bionics.
First, read this article:
http://www.helloandroid.com/content/are-carriers-illegally-tapping-your-android-phone
Next, go to settings, applications, manage applications, all applications tab, and look for the Fake Blur app. I am rooted and rommed and noticed that I still have this app. Is it something that we should be worried about? Has anyone tried uninstalling it and seeing if the phone still works without it?
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I'm tempted to use TB to remove this completely from my phone... and it's present in Liberty v2.0
Stories said:
I'm tempted to use TB to remove this completely from my phone... and it's present in Liberty v2.0
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It's present in Shifter rom also. I was going to uninstall it using TB, but it seems like it might stop something from working, because when I attempted to force stop the application and went back to my homescreens, it was like I had just turned the phone on and they were sluggish.
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It's present in Shifter rom also. I was going to uninstall it using TB, but it seems like it might stop something from working, because when I attempted to force stop the application and went back to my homescreens, it was like I had just turned the phone on and they were sluggish.
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I froze it with titanium a few hours ago and hadn't had any issues or FC's yet. I'm running Purity.
Hi there
There alot of roms like RoCKeT RoM for example couse alot of battary drain because this rom have alot of futures and performence but i,m sick of my battary
Any help on how to freeze the wifi
Pleeeeeezzzzzzzzzza
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I am not sure you need to freeze it. I had a rooted Arc before, and used Android Assistant to stop apps like this starting up. The real benefit of it is you can block all the listeners' every app and service has. The listeners are what makes it pop back up again when you have killed it (like WiFi sharing does, and &*^% Social Hub & Buddies!).
Used with the start up kill as well, you have a clean fast start, more RAM, and more battery. The price is zilch too, although I recommend buying it just to support it. What's not to like?
Edit: It is autorun that stopped things loading, and listening to events. Android Asst just prevents loading on boot.
Install Titanium Backup or AntTek App Manager and freeze it/them. I've done it myself.
And how to do it with antek application manager
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1. You must be rooted of course
2. Open the app and hit the "Apps" tab
3. Search for "Wi-Fi Sharing Manager" and "Wi-Fi Sharing"
4. Tap on it/them and choose "Freeze"
5. Done!
Thank you very much
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Is this the only way to get rid of this? I think this is also the case for my bad battery performance as well. So, no way to stop it or kill it without 3rd party software?
Nope, it's a system process, so you'll need root to freeze/delete or do anything about it. If you kill it manually using a task manager the process with start again within seconds.
How long should it take? I'm using Titanium Backup-Pro, been sitting on "freezing Wi-Fi Sharing manager 1.0" for over 5 minutes.
Sorry noob questions, but...
What is the benefit to freeze those apps?? What is its purposes? What would be the cons?
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Sorry noob questions, but...
What is the benefit to freeze those apps?? What is its purposes? What would be the cons?
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When you freeze an app with Titanium (or some other system app manager), the system doesn't see it anymore. It's still there, but out of action until you defrost it.
It's a useful feature to experiment with temp shutting down of system apps - if you see that something is wrong, you defrost it, and everything's fine.
If you uninstall it, OTOH, if something bad happens, you're stuck.
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Sorry noob questions, but...
What is the benefit to freeze those apps?? What is its purposes? What would be the cons?
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If you mean "why freeze those particular apps?", then the answer is that if they are not used, they are just wasting battery and RAM by running. This is true of a large number of built-in apps that Samsung, and indeed carriers, put on your phone for you.
These particular ones serve no purpose for 90% of users [sorry, needed for Kies air, disregard], so are best stopped. Even if you do use them, they are best prevented from starting up until you want to use them.
freezing wifi sharing and wifi manager will cause kies air not working. unless you never used kies air and planning to freeze it too then i think it should be ok
I want to ask WHAT THE HELL IS THAT WIFI SHARING APP?! How can it be so badly done... I mean it's killing battery as once launched it never stops. I just can't get it...
And that's why we freeze/remove it If you don't use Kies, then get it over with and kill it (the permanent way)
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Fact is, after i froze them (all social hub) wifi sharing came and freezing it didn't change anything, it was still running from boot!
Freeze both wifi sharing and wifi sharing manager.
It will not come back after boot. Tested on 2 S2s and a Note.
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I use Autorun manager to disable all the 'listeners' that these apps have (one is for boot). This is in many ways better because I can still use them by actually running them, but they do not start by themselves.
Usage Manager app (built-in/stock) used to work.
It no longer does. When I tap it, the screen briefly flashes dark (like it was opening), and then it instantly closes. No error message is shown.
I'm running Rooted Stock MI9 (rooted with RDLV - MJ5 doesn't seem to have anything I want that justifies risking breaking a working setup), with Wanam, TiBu, Light Manager (paid), Keyboard Manager (to use hacker keyboard with terminal and ssh, and swype everywhere else), and Pen Window manager, plus some really boring, typical apps. No games, nothing other than the listed apps that does anything exotic.
It stopped working some time during the last several weeks. I have changed no settings during this time. The only app I have installed is Light Manager Pro (I previously used the free version, until a paid one came out), and I doubt this is the problem, but I have run normal app updates.
Anyone know what it is that causes this issue? I can still get to the battery and data usage screens from settings. It's just usage manager that doesn't seem to work.
Stock MJ5, lots of other apps, no games or weird stuff. Never had Usage Manager on the screen, but I put it on now and it works. Did you try removing it and reinstalling it? (I know widgets sometimes get screwed up and you have to redo them, I've never seen it with an app, but maybe?)
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Stock MJ5, lots of other apps, no games or weird stuff. Never had Usage Manager on the screen, but I put it on now and it works. Did you try removing it and reinstalling it? (I know widgets sometimes get screwed up and you have to redo them, I've never seen it with an app, but maybe?)
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Is there also a widget form of Usage Manager? I'm just using the app.
I can't remove/reinstall it, I don't think - it's a stock app, and doesn't show in application manager...
In any event, I suspect it's one of the root apps that's breaking it. But I don't know which one or what needs to be done to make them play well together.
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Is there also a widget form of Usage Manager?
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No, sorry if it sounded like that. I just installed the app from the long-press on the screen.
I can't remove/reinstall it, I don't think - it's a stock app, and doesn't show in application manager...
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Long-press the icon on the screen and you can remove the icon on the screen. Then reinstall the screen icon.
What I meant about widgets is that I've had widgets do weird things and by removing and reinstalling them, they worked again.
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No, sorry if it sounded like that. I just installed the app from the long-press on the screen.
Long-press the icon on the screen and you can remove the icon on the screen. Then reinstall the screen icon.
What I meant about widgets is that I've had widgets do weird things and by removing and reinstalling them, they worked again.
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Oh, I've done that already - doesn't work.
It also closes instantly when launched from apps screen.
No bueno, How about unrooting, asking for a warranty swap and living with MJ5? Or isn't having the link on the desktop worth the drive? I think for a little thing like that I'd just live with it. I save my fights for nuclear war (like an OTA bootlooping the phone).
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No bueno, How about unrooting, asking for a warranty swap and living with MJ5? Or isn't having the link on the desktop worth the drive? I think for a little thing like that I'd just live with it. I save my fights for nuclear war (like an OTA bootlooping the phone).
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Well that escalated quickly....
This is clearly a software problem. I think it unconscionable and selfish to return known-good hardware for a software problem, because then the cost of this bogus warranty return gets passed on to everyone else (in other words, you and I). I choose not to make the world worse for every other AT&T customer (we suffer enough) to get one app that I am almost certainly responsible for breaking working again.
I'm sure I could fix it by reflashing stock, but I don't really want to do that, because it's so much work to get everything set back up. I was asking in the hopes that someone has seen this before.
Anyone know if there's a way to "reset app data" like you can for most apps, on the usage manager app?
I have pretty much the same setup except I'm on MI9 and don't have that keyboard setup you have. Mine does the same thing. Never could find out what broke it. Sure would like it back though.
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I must stand corrected. I had the same fc issues last week with usage manager. Tried putting the shortcut back on home screen and messed with it for about a hour trying to find what broke it. Finally gave up. Just tried it now and it functions just fine. Oh well. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
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DrAzzy said:
Well that escalated quickly....
This is clearly a software problem. I think it unconscionable and selfish to return known-good hardware for a software problem, because then the cost of this bogus warranty return gets passed on to everyone else (in other words, you and I). I choose not to make the world worse for every other AT&T customer (we suffer enough) to get one app that I am almost certainly responsible for breaking working again.
I'm sure I could fix it by reflashing stock, but I don't really want to do that, because it's so much work to get everything set back up. I was asking in the hopes that someone has seen this before.
Anyone know if there's a way to "reset app data" like you can for most apps, on the usage manager app?
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What about using TiBU to restore the app data from a previous backup?
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Same thing here
DrAzzy said:
Usage Manager app (built-in/stock) used to work.
It no longer does. When I tap it, the screen briefly flashes dark (like it was opening), and then it instantly closes. No error message is shown.
I'm running Rooted Stock MI9 (rooted with RDLV - MJ5 doesn't seem to have anything I want that justifies risking breaking a working setup), with Wanam, TiBu, Light Manager (paid), Keyboard Manager (to use hacker keyboard with terminal and ssh, and swype everywhere else), and Pen Window manager, plus some really boring, typical apps. No games, nothing other than the listed apps that does anything exotic.
It stopped working some time during the last several weeks. I have changed no settings during this time. The only app I have installed is Light Manager Pro (I previously used the free version, until a paid one came out), and I doubt this is the problem, but I have run normal app updates.
Anyone know what it is that causes this issue? I can still get to the battery and data usage screens from settings. It's just usage manager that doesn't seem to work.
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I believe mine started after installing the ATT Allaccess app
Mine broke when I used SD Maid. It deleted a temp file that much I know. Just not sure where. I'm going to refresh the rom and attempt to recreate the break by using sd maid. When I see what file is deleted I'll see if simply putting it back does the trick. I'm using a note 3 att 900a with the Walter White lollipop rooted rom.
Hi.
Ive been using my S3 for a few years now and found my old S1 the other day still working.
As there is still alot of support for this phone i upgraded the ROM to KK and all looks good, but i dont really need the phone for general phone stuff so was looking to use it mainly as a Music player.
Im running OMNI on it with Apollo, DSP Manager (but still stock OMNI Kernal, which i might update if a better one is available for Sound?)
What i would like to know is what can i delete off the phone but still have it function without any FC? i.e it will never be used for text or phone calls or navigation, only music and maybe games (but still would like Play store access for app download, via WiFi.
Has anyone ever done this before?
Thanks
From what I know deleting any of the telephony features causes a whole lot of problems for a rom. You could try disable every app you don't need and see how it goes?
Alternatively you could always leave it on aeroplane mode (you can still access wifi)
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Soryuu said:
From what I know deleting any of the telephony features causes a whole lot of problems for a rom. You could try disable every app you don't need and see how it goes?
Alternatively you could always leave it on aeroplane mode (you can still access wifi)
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Yeah i think the best option is Airplane Mode to be honest. I did delete some of the Messaging files and so far no FC, but think i will leave the rest for now.
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I've recently been using an app called ice box. I removed greenify and wakelocks. Been using this app solo with great success. Letting my Nexus 6 homies know about it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.catchingnow.icebox
Give it a try, let me know what you think. Hit thanks
personally its far too simple, there are more advanced tools out there if you have root.
Simple is not a bad thing if it does everything a more complex app does.
I use this functionality in Titanium Backup. It can deal with system apps in several ways
martinez5241 said:
I've recently been using an app called ice box. I removed greenify and wakelocks. Been using this app solo with great success. Letting my Nexus 6 homies know about it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.catchingnow.icebox
Give it a try, let me know what you think. Hit thanks
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I agree 100%
I've tried Servicely, Amplify, Greenify, and Boot Manager (the last three with Xposed integration) and have removed all of them.
Ice Box beats them all hands down in ease of setup, ease of use and, most importantly, it actually keeps unruly apps from restarting themselves.
Somehow they would always spring back up when using Greenify and the others and I would always see them in the "Battery" screen as have used some % of my battery even though they weren't used.
:good::good::good: for Ice Box!
Give it a try, the free version can deal with 15 apps and is definitely worth a look.
I used icebox for a while too and thought it was the solution to all my life's problems but had to find a different solution after I realized that app keeps a constant connection to some mysterious address in China and sends data each time anything happens on your phone
ElwOOd_CbGp said:
I used icebox for a while too and thought it was the solution to all my life's problems but had to find a different solution after I realized that app keeps a constant connection to some mysterious address in China and sends data each time anything happens on your phone
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Is that really happens? What's your source? I can't find anything on Google regarding this...
AFWall logs, NetworkConnections app, traceroute, google play store developer info. Trust me. I wouldn't say anything if it wasn't true. I really...really liked the app. It may be nothing but app analytics but I could never get the dev to reply and the address provided on google play appeared to be bogus when I looked for it in Maps...which I did report to google along with my firewall logs. Maybe its fixed. I get that developers make better results when they get feedback but I don't like unnecessary connections especially ones without an off switch. The amount of data sent appeared to be miniscule but very constant even when the app wasn't in use. I end up making my own using Everywhere Launcher + Secure Settings + Macrodroid. Secure Settings does the same thing but appears to be abandoned and the licencing used for it doesn't seem to be affected by being blocked from the internet.
How do I see which apps are always running? Im afraid that I'll freeze a app and it'll break my phone lol..
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