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New Motorola MOTOBlur UI

Does anyone know if there is a leak of the new MotoBlur UI or rom? or if it's even possible to port to the G1? ... I know it was just annouced but there isn't a section for it and i wouldn't mind having some of the widgets and or features that have already been shown. Does anyone have any additional info on this besides what's already been released my motorola today?

PulldOvr said:
Does anyone know if there is a leak of the new MotoBlur UI or rom? or if it's even possible to port to the G1? ... I know it was just annouced but there isn't a section for it and i wouldn't mind having some of the widgets and or features that have already been shown. Does anyone have any additional info on this besides what's already been released my motorola today?
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This belongs in the Q&A section!!!

Well... it was JUST announced, so... we will have to wait.

prettyboy85712 said:
This belongs in the Q&A section!!!
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i figured it would work in either section but it is development based b/c it is a new UI that hasn't been seen ... I was more or less tryin to spark interest into this.

Just in case someone didn't know, here some info http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/10/live-from-motorolas-android-announcement-at-mobilize-09/
Looks awesome, but i think the device only has the qualcomm ~550MHz cpu..
Waiting for the Motorola Sholes with Snapdragon, whoooo

As long as it runs on the Qualcomm architecture that the Dream/Magic/Hero etc. run on, there's no reason why it could not be ported to the Dream. Once it comes out, that is.

this will probably take months before its leaked and weeks before its usable

ANY videos?

sasha101 said:
this will probably take months before its leaked and weeks before its usable
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Hero STILL doesn't have bluetooth, based on past results, it's very very hard to port this stuff over in a usable manner. The devs are the best, but if we still don't have Hero working, what are the odds of us getting this one anytime soon?

Wii60 said:
Hero STILL doesn't have bluetooth, based on past results, it's very very hard to port this stuff over in a usable manner. The devs are the best, but if we still don't have Hero working, what are the odds of us getting this one anytime soon?
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I'd say there's a high chance of getting a full working version of "MOTOBLUR" on the G1 before a working version of Sense UI.
Of course nobody can comment before the phone/rom is released but at first glance it doesn't look like the core of android has been edited much, if at all. It's simply the stock android home screen with 2 extra shortcuts at the bottom and some new widgets.
Even the calendar app has remained the same.

http://www.t-mobile.com/promotions/GenericRegular.aspx?PAsset=Pro_Pro_MotoCliqLaunch&WT.mc_id=637m3
go to this page and click on the MotoBlur Demo link on the right hand side to get
a full demo of the UI.
I like the fact that your "inbox" contains messages/gmails/fbook messages all in one list.

And it has the same screen res and 528mhz processor as the g1 so it shouldn't be too much work to get it on there. This is way more exciting than hero, cuz the hero roms are so slow

dweller88 said:
http://www.t-mobile.com/promotions/GenericRegular.aspx?PAsset=Pro_Pro_MotoCliqLaunch&WT.mc_id=637m3
go to this page and click on the MotoBlur Demo link on the right hand side to get
a full demo of the UI.
I like the fact that your "inbox" contains messages/gmails/fbook messages all in one list.
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agreed i love the universal inbox as well as the Happenings screen/widget. even if that was all we got, i would be happy lol

what people need to realize is that its not about what official rom we want.. its what from each rom we want.. cause with the way devs keep taking things from all the new roms and putting into current ones.. all we need is to take the best from each and make one bomb rom..lol

Wii60 said:
Hero STILL doesn't have bluetooth, based on past results, it's very very hard to port this stuff over in a usable manner. The devs are the best, but if we still don't have Hero working, what are the odds of us getting this one anytime soon?
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devs havent got bluetooth to work cuz the hero source code is closed source. if motorola keeps the source code for the blur UI open, then devs have
all around access to not only port the build but framework, bluetooth, led's,etc.

i hope we get a system dump soon this UI looks real good.. i dont like all the colors but im sure manups work'll take care of all that

sasha101 said:
this will probably take months before its leaked and weeks before its usable
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nah not with the rom devs here kid. i give em three days tops!

cyan might be getting a system dump sometime very soon.

Don't play with my emotions jc....lol. I'm hoping we can get this ported because all I really want from Hero is the HTC Music (got it) and the integrated social apps. This would be gold and for cyan to work his magic...

so cool
moto is back

DFT TEAM has Android working on Nand PRO2

DFT team has released a video of Android running on nand pro2
RHO's CPU is too slow and screen resolution too high for sense, so we decide to make pure Android ROM based on Android 2.2
youtube.com/watch?v=yOGnQ3D5IDk

wow
hey , sound good,
i hope working an topaz,too
i think they both phones have similar technical data.
i dont understand why cpu is to slow, lenin reds built with sense
run much more faster from sdcard than this nand built ????
btw good work from the DFT Team , thx

hello there. let's hope topaz, aka touch diamond2, wont be forgotten.
I'll be willing to pay for good working rom

sounds promising
waiting for more updates

Hopefully it will be working on our phones as well.
BTW, one of the comments said to be using Neopeek's android roms. Can someone post a link, I must have missed them.

loadstone007 said:
Hopefully it will be working on our phones as well.
BTW, one of the comments said to be using Neopeek's android roms. Can someone post a link, I must have missed them.
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Click here. Anyway its a little bit outdated but try it and be sure to update kernel, rootfs,...

ReWind402 said:
Click here. Anyway its a little bit outdated but try it and be sure to update kernel, rootfs,...
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Thanks!
It's indeed outdated, perhaps I should just wait.

thijsdgier said:
RHO's CPU is too slow and screen resolution too high for sense, so we decide to make pure Android ROM based on Android 2.2
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Well, i don't know if this will be the same decision for topaz. But if yes then it's a bad bad info for me
I just hate pure android and sense in android rocks!!
I also don't understand this because i have lenin build and it's fasttt from sdcard!!!
Shouldn't be even faster from nand??
Anyway thanks for all who make this possible even if it no feet my needs!!
Thank you

Zimaia said:
Shouldn't be even faster from nand??
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AFAIK nand is not faster than sd-method. But it would allow you too get rid off winmo.

actually guys, your phone won't improve that much after NAND. believe me i'm hd2 user and i have used android since first versions based off xdandroid..
as far as speed goes, read/write is actually faster on sdcard!
only andvantage of nand is stability and power consumption, ofcourse after all quirks are polished.
qc's 528 msm's are too slow to run sense well. it can get slow even on 1ghz. wvga is too much to handle, and sense is very ram sensitive! maybe if someone could get it upscaled from hvga, but in that case it would be streched..
i also own both diamonds(I and II) and i would love to see winmo gone. but on good port like leo(feels like native device) we had advantage of few devices with same components built in and much work being already done, and i do not see wvga android with small screen and 528mhz released by htc.
i'm just being realistic here, not mean or anything else.

1 - Topaz is very small mobile phone. I am don't wants to use such big phone like HD2.
2 - Battary life in topaz is more longer
3 - It have smaler screan and that is why it is more clear.

Airpil said:
1 - Topaz is very small mobile phone. I am don't wants to use such big phone like HD2.
2 - Battary life in topaz is more longer
3 - It have smaler screan and that is why it is more clear.
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you misunderstood my post, i'm just tryin to say how thing are and hd2 was best example i could think of. i like my diamonds very much. first gen was really awesome on looks, but low on hardware(slow and small ram..etc).
i wish there will be some goodies from dft soon

stirkac said:
actually guys, your phone won't improve that much after NAND. believe me i'm hd2 user and i have used android since first versions based off xdandroid..
as far as speed goes, read/write is actually faster on sdcard!
only andvantage of nand is stability and power consumption, ofcourse after all quirks are polished.
qc's 528 msm's are too slow to run sense well. it can get slow even on 1ghz. wvga is too much to handle, and sense is very ram sensitive! maybe if someone could get it upscaled from hvga, but in that case it would be streched..
i also own both diamonds(I and II) and i would love to see winmo gone. but on good port like leo(feels like native device) we had advantage of few devices with same components built in and much work being already done, and i do not see wvga android with small screen and 528mhz released by htc.
i'm just being realistic here, not mean or anything else.
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quited d2 and joined moto defy~~~

What happened to this project??? I didn't see MAGLDR

Black.Heart said:
What happened to this project??? I didn't see MAGLDR
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It was closed-source, and I don't believe they ever made a public release. Since none of the code is available to the public, no other dev can pickup where they left off...
Crappy model to go with. Were still pushing forward with NAND using open source concepts, and RHOD is getting there (just very slowly). I'm hoping each device will have at least one dev that will step up and get the dirty work done to look towards NAND on all devices... but that hasn't happened yet. There's not even that much (developer) steam behind NAND on RHOD...

arrrghhh said:
It was closed-source, and I don't believe they ever made a public release. Since none of the code is available to the public, no other dev can pickup where they left off...
Crappy model to go with. Were still pushing forward with NAND using open source concepts, and RHOD is getting there (just very slowly). I'm hoping each device will have at least one dev that will step up and get the dirty work done to look towards NAND on all devices... but that hasn't happened yet. There's not even that much (developer) steam behind NAND on RHOD...
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I am very much upset with that you are right!

Help with port

I realize that miui was tested before but failed because it was not built for an armv6 processor but recently miui was ported (nearly complete) to the galaxy 3. Our phone and this phone are very equal in specs so I was wondering if someone would take a look at it and try to work on it, or at least let me know how to port.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133741

Seriously the developers left for the hero barely keep up with projects they do have. I applaud the effort but the time for heros has gone.

Actually once a release is seen in that forum I'm gonna be on that thing trying to port it.
Sent from my Hero that never dies! ;D

isnt that what drakko was working on

Bierce22 said:
isnt that what drakko was working on
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Drakko said he stopped.

Bierce22 said:
isnt that what drakko was working on
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I believe Drakko had only got to the png's but from there he was unable to do anything because he could not build it from the ground up.

I just visited that thread. It's like a fist fight at the kiddie - pool......
nandroids are for
sissies

they have a link at the lg op one, thread ldpi miui [wip]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160925
edit: but i just read the one on the galaxy 3 and it is almost complete.

HTC Tattoo and CM9?

So CM7 was a stellar success for our tiny lil device called Tattoo.
Now that CM7 is over, we'll are eagerly waiting for CM9. I posted this thread to know if Tattoo is going to be supported in the CM9 builds. If anyone of you has an idea of what is going on, you can reply here. Also you can use this thread for dev purposes.
Others here, you can list out what features you want to see on out Tattoos running CM9. This can come of great help to the devs until the actual thread comes up.
So when many devices have got early CM9 builds, why not us? arco68 and KalimochoAz, you there?

The CyanogenMod team already announced that one phone which will not get the upgrade is the Motorola Droid because of it's outdated hardware. You know, Droid is really similar to Tattoo specwise. Same CPU specs, same RAM amount, same internal memory.....
You draw the conclusions.

pretty bleak future for us indeed. but the hero and the G1 are running early builds of it already. so if G1 can do, why not Tattoo?

sunitknandi said:
pretty bleak future for us indeed. but the hero and the G1 are running early builds of it already. so if G1 can do, why not Tattoo?
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Any hope for us. Be patient. They only write about Droid1: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cm9-progress-update

BilboPC said:
Any hope for us. Be patient. They only write about Droid1: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cm9-progress-update
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This blog post pretty much confirms that we won't be getting CM9.
Our goal is to provide continued support to all CM7 devices back to the QSD8250 series of devices such as the Nexus One.
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Our device is MUCH less-powerful than the QSD8250, which is a 1.0-1.2GHz CPU and Adreno 200 GPU System-on-a-Chip.

if that is true, wildfire wont get it too.

My guess it it will run. But should be optimized heavily for a smooth experience.
Sent from my HTC Tattoo using XDA App

I'm afraid the low resolution will be the show stopper there.

Maybe possible but it will be light version of ICS a few of the ingredients may be removed.
The screen is 2.8" n this is maybe the drawback...

I have installed ICS on G1. Its horrible ROM, Very Laggy and still needs lot of development for smoother experience. They haven't fixed the rotation problems yet. It looks to me Tatto0 will have a hard time with CM 9 because of its lower quality hardwares.

Tattoo is a 2 years old phone
Once we made it 2.1/2.2
It great already
And now we even have 2.3
What are we still asking for
As google told before
4.0is for high end
So let's enjoy the extra bonus that we get
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using XDA App

There was a Christmas gift to buzz community from Arco
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20639586&postcount=61
which i think is a good news for Tattoo as well in terms of CM9

i still have hope!
it might not be a perfect version of android 4, but at least we can try and have fun a little bit while we wait for next year's christmas for a new phone!!

Look at this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym4A82ft5pw
It's ICS running on htc g1, the first android phone! I hope we can run it also on our tattoo

mattia29 said:
Look at this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym4A82ft5pw
It's ICS running on htc g1, the first android phone! I hope we can run it also on our tattoo
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Yes, it's running, but as you can see it's too slow, really.

Yes but tattoo has a little better specs than G1

Hey all,
If no-one is looking at porting CM9 to Tattoo, I could have an indicative look at doing it; no promises though; as I am doing it for HD2 at the moment, where I am spending all my time
I may have a go in a few days.
Although I may need some assistance with drivers and kernel later on

arif-ali said:
Hey all,
If no-one is looking at porting CM9 to Tattoo, I could have an indicative look at doing it; no promises though; as I am doing it for HD2 at the moment, where I am spending all my time
I may have a go in a few days.
Although I may need some assistance with drivers and kernel later on
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That's awesome, man. I would done it if I had knowlege

arif-ali said:
Hey all,
If no-one is looking at porting CM9 to Tattoo, I could have an indicative look at doing it; no promises though; as I am doing it for HD2 at the moment, where I am spending all my time
I may have a go in a few days.
Although I may need some assistance with drivers and kernel later on
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Please do it if u have time.

Update on compilation
Hi all,
Everything I do is all open, so you will see what I have done; this also gives others the chance to contribute
If someone wants to see my progress, then you can go to the following git repo
https://github.com/arif-ali/android_device_htc_click
and when I have a build it will be located here
http://cyanogenmod.arif-ali.co.uk/rom/test
So far quite a bit compiles, working on the wpa_supplicant part now. Looks like it may be a hack or need to look somewhere else.
I've had the Tattoo for 2 years now, but don't really know the HW much, so much research will be required. I've just installed nfinityGB, as and when arco built it.
If someone can give any input, it may speed up my work; and it will be appreciated.
Edit 1:
* Got passed the wifi, just got the drivers from gingerbread (for my notes)
Code:
cd system/wlan
git clone git://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_system_wlan_ti.git -b gingerbread
mv android_system_wlan_ti ti
sed -i s/LOCAL_MODULE_TAGS.*/LOCAL_MODULE_TAGS\ :=\ optional/g system/wlan/ti/sta_dk_4_0_4_32/config/Android.mk
* Need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20737947&postcount=27 for compilation as well
Code:
unzip ../webrtc.zip -d external/webrtc/
Edit 2:
Good News; first compile done.
Bad News; it's 4am in the morning, and I can't be bothered to test
I have no idea if it is going to work or not, and if someone is really adventurous, then feel free to try flashing the file from the following URL in about 20 mins i.e. better to try 04:30 GMT to be on the safe side
http://cyanogenmod.arif-ali.co.uk/rom/test/update-cm9-click-20120101.zip
system is going to be 162M, and gapps can be downloaded from http://cyanogenmod.arif-ali.co.uk/misc/gapps-ics-20111128.zip
Personally, I won't be able to test until tomorrow now
Edit 3:
NVM, this won't work, our system is only 150M; I will give it another go later

twrp and asop cyanogenmod bounty kickstarter

i hereby pledge 25$ to who ever can make this happen, or some kind of split between a team. lets kickstart this thing guys., make some pledges...motivate some devs....devs...if you succeed at first only release to verified donators...like a early access program (but still release for free down the line) but time is money guys!!! these guys got lives and jobs and all that...we gotta help make their hobby lucrative. its only fair
sprint g4 99whatever model. currently zv6 on ultrapop 1.4 with xposed. but I NEED ASOP...omg..my galaxy s3 makes me jealous

bryguy9021 said:
i hereby pledge 25$ to who ever can make this happen, or some kind of split between a team. lets kickstart this thing guys., make some pledges...motivate some devs....devs...if you succeed at first only release to verified donators...like a early access program (but still release for free down the line) but time is money guys!!! these guys got lives and jobs and all that...we gotta help make their hobby lucrative. its only fair
sprint g4 99whatever model. currently zv6 on ultrapop 1.4 with xposed. but I NEED ASOP...omg..my galaxy s3 makes me jealous
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If you need aosp then why did you get a G4 to begin with?

Just as an FYI, I plan on making an AOSPish rom based on stock, but will the system will be gutted to just framework and needed basics. It will prob exceed AOSP performance and will also have everything working unlike real AOSP builds that always have bugs and only basic drivers which don't allow camera and other system parts take advantage of proprietary drivers and hardware. I'm getting closer to finishing it and will update more through next week's. I know you want true AOSP and Recovery, but we have a locked boot loader and blown q fuse which makes it unbearable to hack.
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Agimax said:
Just as an FYI, I plan on making an AOSPish rom based on stock, but will the system will be gutted to just framework and needed basics. It will prob exceed AOSP performance and will also have everything working unlike real AOSP builds that always have bugs and only basic drivers which don't allow camera and other system parts take advantage of proprietary drivers and hardware. I'm getting closer to finishing it and will update more through next week's. I know you want true AOSP and Recovery, but we have a locked boot loader and blown q fuse which makes it unbearable to hack.
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@Agimax, I see you have on your signature that you're running UltraPOP V1.50 HiPerf.
Will you be releasing this to us mere mortals?

daniel06gt said:
@Agimax, I see you have on your signature that you're running UltraPOP V1.50 HiPerf.
Will you be releasing this to us mere mortals?
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Yes, he will. Myself and a few others are beta testing it (it's awesome ) and then he will release in the next few days I'm guessing (I don't want to speak for him just guessing based on previous releases.

Excellent! Looking forward to trying it out. So far all other versions have been outstanding.

daniel06gt said:
Excellent! Looking forward to trying it out. So far all other versions have been outstanding.
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Yep, you will have it tomorrow if no bad reports come back from the testers. So far i have only received great feedback. The two large 1.8 ghz cores are underclocked to 864 mhz, but it feels like the phone is overclocked due to the touchboost / ondemand governor tweak combinations. I think you will all enjoy it, i still can't believe the difference, like night and day from 1.42. So damn snappy!

Agimax said:
Yep, you will have it tomorrow if no bad reports come back from the testers. So far i have only received great feedback. The two large 1.8 ghz cores are underclocked to 864 mhz, but it feels like the phone is overclocked due to the touchboost / ondemand governor tweak combinations. I think you will all enjoy it, i still can't believe the difference, like night and day from 1.42. So damn snappy!
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Your making me wanna donate again. Keep it up man. Without you ide be a little bored w this phone. My friend has the g4 on Verizon and he's jealous.

Mahapederdon said:
Your making me wanna donate again. Keep it up man. Without you ide be a little bored w this phone. My friend has the g4 on Verizon and he's jealous.
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Have him dd his rooted system partition, post the link and i might be inclined to start one for the Verizon version.

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Have him dd his rooted system partition, post the link and i might be inclined to start one for the Verizon version.
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I'll see if he'll let me do it for him. He's always a little scared to do this kinda stuff. Took him More than a year to root his g2. Thanks man.

Agimax said:
Just as an FYI, I plan on making an AOSPish rom based on stock, but will the system will be gutted to just framework and needed basics. It will prob exceed AOSP performance and will also have everything working unlike real AOSP builds that always have bugs and only basic drivers which don't allow camera and other system parts take advantage of proprietary drivers and hardware. I'm getting closer to finishing it and will update more through next week's. I know you want true AOSP and Recovery, but we have a locked boot loader and blown q fuse which makes it unbearable to hack.
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I might be bending a forum rule by posting somewhat off-topic in this thread, but I just wanted to post that I am very much in support of a project like the one you describe, for exactly the reasons you describe. One of my favorite ROMs in the past was Bareback for the EVO 4G LTE, a stripped down Sense ROM -- light and speedy, but with the HTC drivers needed to make the camera on that device still look good.
TWRP for the Sprint LG G4 could only improve development for everyone, though, so I'm in fully in favor of that, too (boom, back on topic.)

Hopefully we will get a boot loader unlock. But a TWRP build for us would be good.
Sent from my LGLS991 using Tapatalk

Nothing is going to happen until you can flash a new kernel/recovery - or has that been resolved now?
G4 is currently in works for CM and if we can ever flash a kernel/recovery I'll jump in and help too.

jaxbierley said:
If you need aosp then why did you get a G4 to begin with?
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because since when does lg and sprint lock bootloaders? i got the phone when it was brand new and it still doesnt have twrp. others variants do. you assume brand new flagship phones will be hacked very fast. ill never get a lg phone again however unless its a nexus. samsung for life! (except garbage s6 with no sd card)

Agimax said:
Just as an FYI, I plan on making an AOSPish rom based on stock, but will the system will be gutted to just framework and needed basics. It will prob exceed AOSP performance and will also have everything working unlike real AOSP builds that always have bugs and only basic drivers which don't allow camera and other system parts take advantage of proprietary drivers and hardware. I'm getting closer to finishing it and will update more through next week's. I know you want true AOSP and Recovery, but we have a locked boot loader and blown q fuse which makes it unbearable to hack.
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Agimax you have done a lot of work for us, and I will be donating to you very soon. Waiting on school money in 3 weeks. (approx the 4th week of june I pledge you 25$. Your roms are a great improvement and whenever I have problems you answer me. It is greatly appreciated and I am sorry I have not donated to you sooner. The bounty will continue for anyone else who can contribute to this piece of junk with an amazing camera....I encourage others to raise my bounty.
off topic if anyone wants to trade me a sprint galaxy s5 or equivalent HTC for my lg g4.........

bigjustinturbo said:
I might be bending a forum rule by posting somewhat off-topic in this thread, but I just wanted to post that I am very much in support of a project like the one you describe, for exactly the reasons you describe. One of my favorite ROMs in the past was Bareback for the EVO 4G LTE, a stripped down Sense ROM -- light and speedy, but with the HTC drivers needed to make the camera on that device still look good.
TWRP for the Sprint LG G4 could only improve development for everyone, though, so I'm in fully in favor of that, too (boom, back on topic.)
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Hey man ill second bareback on og evo i still got my evo 4g. One of my favorite phones of all time.
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Agimax said:
Have him dd his rooted system partition, post the link and i might be inclined to start one for the Verizon version.
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I can donate myself and my g4 in for any testing. Heck ive already turn it into a pin cushion. Trying many diffrent things out just keep in mind i use mine unlocked gsm. I have net 10 running on att towers
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Agimax said:
Yep, you will have it tomorrow if no bad reports come back from the testers. So far i have only received great feedback. The two large 1.8 ghz cores are underclocked to 864 mhz, but it feels like the phone is overclocked due to the touchboost / ondemand governor tweak combinations. I think you will all enjoy it, i still can't believe the difference, like night and day from 1.42. So damn snappy!
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I was also gonna ask u man hows indi i used to live in gary and merrilvile. Used to goto the skate park all the time but ive been away for a long time. Couldnt deal with all the gang crap