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So I gave searched for this and I want honest non biased answers how many SGS4 OWNERS made the wait h to MOTO X and what are your feelings ?

AndreaCristiano said:
So I gave searched for this and I want honest non biased answers how many SGS4 OWNERS made the wait h to MOTO X and what are your feelings ?
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I switched from the SGS4 to the MotoX and couldn't be happier. I prefer a more stock android experience and was a ROM flashaholic with the S4, but nothing was ever good enough on the TouchWiz front (I wanted to keep using some of those bells and whistles the S4 offers, so I always stuck with TW Roms). With the MotoX, I don't even think I will ever flash a ROM should it become possible. Stock is THAT good on this phone. It's really smooth! To me, it's about how well the phone runs, not how powerful it is. Motorola did such a great job tweaking the hardware in this phone that you wouldn't even know the difference that it had a less powerful chipset. It's actually smoother than stock on the S4, IMO. Very reminiscent of the GNex, but more awesome. I only really care about theming with this particular phone anyways, and that, I can do already with xposed. The reception on my MotoX seems way better than what I had on the S4. I like that the MotoX is smaller and more ergonomically sound. It's the perfect size for my tastes. Active notifications are the bees knees and MotoAssist is pretty cool too. The only thing I miss about the S4 is the camera, but I use real cameras for real photography. Patiently waiting on the Verizon update for MotoX. Hopefully, the camera will perform better like it does on the other variants for point and shoot shoots where a DSLR is not required, typical day-to-day use. Like I said, couldn't be happier with my decision to switch to the MotoX, even though I did enjoy the S4, it just wasn't the right phone for me.

Thank you very much I am leaning more and more towards buying a moto X and not waiting for the Nexus 5

I came from the HTC One and the GS4 and I couldn't be happier. The Moto X is the best smart phone ever made. Period.

_MetalHead_ said:
I came from the HTC One and the GS4 and I couldn't be happier. The Moto X is the best smart phone ever made. Period.
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I agree with you 100% bro.
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_MetalHead_ said:
I came from the HTC One and the GS4 and I couldn't be happier. The Moto X is the best smart phone ever made. Period.
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Damn you guys are making me want to pull the trigger and not even wait for the nexus 5

AndreaCristiano said:
Damn you guys are making me want to pull the trigger and not even wait for the nexus 5
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I'm getting the Nexus 5 as well. The X will likely remain my primary phone though. One thing I can tell you is that the N5 won't have Active Notifications and that's a MAJOR selling point for the X. Once you have them, you won't know what you ever did without them. The X also has the best in-hand feel of any device ever, which I doubt the N5 will be able to compete with. Those who know me on XDA know that I am VERY critical of phones, so if I recommend one, it must be amazing. That said, the X has my wholehearted recommendation. It's my first Motorola phone and I must say, they have gained a lifetime customer in me.

You guys that switched went with the carrier version of the Developer?

_MetalHead_ said:
I'm getting the Nexus 5 as well. The X will likely remain my primary phone though. One thing I can tell you is that the N5 won't have Active Notifications and that's a MAJOR selling point for the X. Once you have them, you won't know what you ever did without them. The X also has the best in-hand feel of any device ever, which I doubt the N5 will be able to compete with. Those who know me on XDA know that I am VERY critical of phones, so if I recommend one, it must be amazing. That said, the X has my wholehearted recommendation. It's my first Motorola phone and I must say, they have gained a lifetime customer in me.
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Wow OK I think I'm sold. I wanted to wait for the announcement but I don't know if I can. I'm so over this SGS4 IM willing to buy a black T-Mobile and not wait till the motomaker

AndreaCristiano said:
Wow OK I think I'm sold. I wanted to wait for the announcement but I don't know if I can. I'm so over this SGS4 IM willing to buy a black T-Mobile and not wait till the motomaker
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I have a motomaker one and I still went with all black. The only reason why I went the motomaker route was to get the 32gb version.

_MetalHead_ said:
I have a motomaker one and I still went with all black. The only reason why I went the motomaker route was to get the 32gb version.
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Ah yes unfortunately the att version doesn't work on T-Mobile so I have to go T-Mobile route

Coderedpl said:
You guys that switched went with the carrier version of the Developer?
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I have the carrier version. I believe the only difference between the two is that you can unlock the bootloader on the DE and it comes has 32Gb storage instead of 16Gb. From what I've read, all the specs are the same, otherwise.

I came from a gs4. Before that I had an og droid, gnex, gs3, note 2, and gs4.
I have been so happy with my dev edition vzw Moto x. It is the perfect phone. It doesn't even need roms, just root for gravitybox mods to quick toggles for me. I love the size and feel over my s4. There's something about the feel of the s4 that I always hated and I've come to find the feel and smaller size of the x to feel so much better. the speaker is much MUCH louder and the reception is better too. Stock android runs so much smoother on the x than touch wiz, cm, or paranoid android ran on the s4. And being able to pick up my phone or bump it or pull it out of my pocket and see the time and unlock is amazing. I don't think I could live without active display or touchless controls anymore. On my s4 I even bought the 3000mAh extended batteries and wasn't happy with battery life. With the Moto x, I make it 24 hours with 4.5 to 5.5 hours screen time and that's way better than the s4 at 3.5 hours. The Moto x with the new camera fix and voice cut off fix just seems so perfect to me. The camera short cut with the twisting motion is also very convenient. I'm currently running the newest tmobile build with the Verizon build.prop and I just love it. I've never had a phone this good. The display even though it's 720, blows away the s3's pentile matrix display and makes ur feel like a step up in resolution because of its rgb stripe. I even liked it more than the s4 display's odd matrix layout. It's the perfect phone in my opinion, I just didn't like the bigger phones

jimmypop13 said:
I came from a gs4. Before that I had an og droid, gnex, gs3, note 2, and gs4.
I have been so happy with my dev edition vzw Moto x. It is the perfect phone. It doesn't even need roms, just root for gravitybox mods to quick toggles for me. I love the size and feel over my s4. There's something about the feel of the s4 that I always hated and I've come to find the feel and smaller size of the x to feel so much better. the speaker is much MUCH louder and the reception is better too. Stock android runs so much smoother on the x than touch wiz, cm, or paranoid android ran on the s4. And being able to pick up my phone or bump it or pull it out of my pocket and see the time and unlock is amazing. I don't think I could live without active display or touchless controls anymore. On my s4 I even bought the 3000mAh extended batteries and wasn't happy with battery life. With the Moto x, I make it 24 hours with 4.5 to 5.5 hours screen time and that's way better than the s4 at 3.5 hours. The Moto x with the new camera fix and voice cut off fix just seems so perfect to me. The camera short cut with the twisting motion is also very convenient. I'm currently running the newest tmobile build with the Verizon build.prop and I just love it. I've never had a phone this good. The display even though it's 720, blows away the s3's pentile matrix display and makes ur feel like a step up in resolution because of its rgb stripe. I even liked it more than the s4 display's odd matrix layout. It's the perfect phone in my opinion, I just didn't like the bigger phones
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I'm telling you the more and more I read the less and less I want to wait for the Nexus 5

AndreaCristiano said:
So I gave searched for this and I want honest non biased answers how many SGS4 OWNERS made the wait h to MOTO X and what are your feelings ?
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switched from a verizon s4 to the dev edition on verizon and i love it
way better battery life
a lot smoother since it doesnt have touch wiz
but the one thing that the x cant compare on is the camera

debating between HTC One, S4, or Moto x on sprint

I really like the Moto X but it doesnt seem to have much support from xda. What do you guys think?

Doesn't really need support. The out of box experience is virtually flawless.
Moto X on Verizon

Would love to hear from people on this. I am on Verizon and in the same boat. Anyone had the S4 and switch to the moto x?

I moved from the htc one to the Moto X and I have no regrets whatsoever. Better battery, better in the hand, no bloatware. It's like a Nexus you can buy on subsidy.

What you get from HTC One and GS4:
Better hardware, often lag and stuttering, more dev support, 1080p displays, slow updates, better camera, worse battery life
What you get from Moto X:
Worse hardware, no lag ever (games and applications load noticeably faster than the one and the S4), less deuv support, 720p display that has great color, updates faster than most nexus devices (got 4.4 on moto x faster than on Nexus 10, 7, 4, htc one gpe, and gs4 gpe), worse camera (but starts up faster and is still reasonable quality), easily 20+ hour battery life, active notifications, touchless control, virtually stock android, and much more...
Up to you

Kittiesoncrack said:
I really like the Moto X but it doesnt seem to have much support from xda. What do you guys think?
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I think that should be a VERY short debate.

gsk3rd said:
Would love to hear from people on this. I am on Verizon and in the same boat. Anyone had the S4 and switch to the moto x?
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My comments on the issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538323

Active notifications. Enough said. I can't go to any other phone because of this feature alone, and I've had the s4 and HTC one. If you enjoy aosp then this is even better
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mwedemeier11 said:
Active notifications. Enough said. I can't go to any other phone because of this feature alone, and I've had the s4 and HTC one. If you enjoy aosp then this is even better
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Because s4 had amoled, you could use Dynamic Notifications, which was the same thing. It actually had even more customizability than Active Notifications.

eyc said:
Because s4 had amoled, you could use Dynamic Notifications, which was the same thing. It actually had even more customizability than Active Notifications.
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I actually didn't care for dynamic notifications, yes it had more features but I didn't work as flawless. 99 times out of a hundred when I grab my phone and look at it the time would show and I could unlock my screen. I have hit my power button to turn on my screen maybe 10 times since I bought it.
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I actually didn't care for dynamic notifications, yes it had more features but I didn't work as flawless. 99 times out of a hundred when I grab my phone and look at it the time would show and I could unlock my screen. I have hit my power button to turn on my screen maybe 10 times since I bought it.
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True. It was not flawless. And I love that the Moto just turns on even with the slightest nudge. For the s4, that option sucked.

eyc said:
True. It was not flawless. And I love that the Moto just turns on even with the slightest nudge. For the s4, that option sucked.
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Exactly, that's probably why I'll stick with moto phones for another generation or two.
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What do you need xda support for? To remove a bunch of crap or an aosp ROM with the latest android version?
You are in good hands... Moto X doesn't need that. You thinking about that Samsung Galaxy S4 at this point? Please don't buy that plastic crapped with ugly touchwiz. At least the HTC one is a beautiful piece of a phone.
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Here's the way I look at it. The Moto X can do things no other phone can do. With root and xposed I can do what most roms can do. Easy decision.
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Yep, the lack of development us because all you need is root. There's no need for custom ROMs. All you need is stock, or root + xposed framework.
Sent from my Moto X, please forgive any misswypes and forgotten words.

I have owned all 3 devices on Verizon. I started with the S4, and returned it for what the salesman said was a silly reason. The reason being the back button was on the wrong side of the screen for my preference, and I couldn't reach across the screen with my thumb and hit the back button easily.
I traded it back in within the 14 day trial on the HTC One. I really like the HTC one and the speakers. I also like the ability to turn it into a TV remote control. It has eye appeal, people think it looks cool and ask what kind of phone it is. I didn't like the power and volume buttons that are flush. I found that I had to look and make sure I was pushing in the right spot.
I really wanted to try the Moto X though, with the notifications and voice monitoring. It was a bonus that I was able to get kit kat on the second day I had it, and even cooler that it was rooted the day after that on kit kat. I usually trade phones once a month with people on craigslist just so I can try out something different, but I really like this phone.

You'll probably get biased opinions since you're posting in the Moto X forum, but here's my $.02.
I've been doing the xda/android/rom thing since the original droid. This is the first phone that has felt fine out of the box and I haven't even bothered to check to see if root and/or unlocked bootloaders have been achieved. My last phone was the GS3.
After looking around at everything I realized that all phones are basically the same. You interact with all of them the same way and they provide information in the same way. The only differences are size and quality issues (camera, screen, battery, etc...). The only unique phones are the Note 3 (with its active digitizer/stylus) and the Moto X. I was really leaning toward the note 3 since I jot down a lot of notes at work. Then I got my wife a Moto X. Two days later I had to have one. The real kicker for me was how it changes how I use my phone. Active notifications are nice and really handy, but I'm probably one of the few who uses touchless control a lot. The hands-free texting works great (especially while in the car). I use Google Now reminders several times a day. If I'm commuting and I remember something that needs be done, it's great to just say it and have my phone remind me. I find that I'm using Google now a lot. For example - If I'm cooking and need to make a conversion, I just ask the Moto. Or in the morning I ask it what the forecast is and what is my agenda while I'm shaving. It's surprising how much that step of unlocking/touching my phone used to prevent me from using it.
Now the downsides. The back of the phone looks great, but I think the front looks a little cheap. Battery life has been pretty good, but not as stellar as what others are reporting. It still is plenty to last all day. I will miss my GS3's removable storage and memory. I don't take a lot of pictures, but I hear that the Moto X's camera is so-so compared to the others.

I'm not going to go in-depth. I had the HTC One, wife has the S4, and I now have the Moto X. I personally like the Moto X more than both the former phones. Due to many reasons. S4 is too big for my taste. I always thought I wanted a big screen, but after using it I don't like it. The HTC was just too oddly shaped for my taste, and the whole Sense thing ruined it for me, as does T-wiz. After flashing an AOSP ROM on both of those phones, they were just knockoffs of the GE phones. Meh. I love my Moto X. Traded my HTC straight across for it and don't feel bad at all.
I was also worried about switching from 1080p to 720p and see no difference. I may be biased because I have one, but until I actually got it, I thought it was such a stupid phone due to the HTC and the S4 hype, and me thinking, "Nothing is as good as these two phones!". Boy was I wrong.
Oh yeah! Touchless Controls and Active Display are the ****!
Oh yeah x2! I was a serious flashaholic with my other phones and saw how slow the Moto X development seemed to be. That also had me shying away from it, but damn! I don't feel like I need to do ANYTHING. Only thing I did was root simply for Xposed so I can use GravityBox to change some colors.
Sent from my Moto X.

gsk3rd said:
Would love to hear from people on this. I am on Verizon and in the same boat. Anyone had the S4 and switch to the moto x?
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I did on Sprint. I can't go back to the S4 or any samsung product until they clean up touchwiz. Plus all those features are not necessary. The main selling point of Samsung is the camera, but I feel the X is passable. At this point its Motorola or Nexus devices from here on out.
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I just sold my S4 and bought a Moto X, super happy. I love this phone. It does everything well and the size and feel is amazing. The only downer is I don't want to put a case on it and ruin its ergonomics, however I want to keep it safe.
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Just got the nexus 5 after having the MOTO-X -My thoughts

I had the moto-x shortly after it's release date and really loved the phone. However I lost it this past week on the boat so I picked up a nexus 5.
Screen- The screen on this thing blows the moto-x out of the water (pun intended) I cannot get over how awesome it is.
Camera- The camera is better in my opinion however it may be the screen making the pictures seem better.
Battery- The moto-x had MUCH better battery and there is no stock "battery saver" function.
Vibration- This phone barely vibrates at all and I can never feel it in my pocket.
Audio- The moto x had a MUCH better speaker phone and aux output. I'm trying to find a better equalizer like the one the moto-x had. Call quality is about the same.
Notifications- The moto-x had the BEST notification system out there with the "active notifications" however the notification LED light on the nexus 5 is "fine" IMO.
Durability. A phone to me is a tool and takes a beating. This phone is very very fragile however i'm hoping a ballistic case will keep me safe.
Performance- Tie IMO as they seemed close enough
Software- Moto-x as someone who isn't into custom roms (yet) I liked the other features on the moto-x (EQ,) however i'm happy to always get the "latest" from Google.
Overall, if you aren't someone who streams spotify from your phone a lot and can keep a battery pack with you the nexus 5 is a great phone however I feel the moto-x is better overall (gasp) from a "stock" standpoint. I'm also comparing a $650 to a $400 phone here (off contract).
Also, What apps for Equalizer and such do you recommend? Anyway to get my AT&T visual voicemail on the phone?

Moto X tends to go underrated, although price tag is partially to blame. It's really what the Nexus 5 should've been, the mixture of the two with a FHD screen, OIS camera, active notifications, good battery life and around twice the price tag of the Moto G. $650 would've been justified a year ago, but not right now, so the Nexus is the better buy.

Muffinman51432 said:
I had the moto-x shortly after it's release date and really loved the phone. However I lost it this past week on the boat so I picked up a nexus 5.
Screen- The screen on this thing blows the moto-x out of the water (pun intended) I cannot get over how awesome it is.
Camera- The camera is better in my opinion however it may be the screen making the pictures seem better.
Battery- The moto-x had MUCH better battery and there is no stock "battery saver" function.
Vibration- This phone barely vibrates at all and I can never feel it in my pocket.
Audio- The moto x had a MUCH better speaker phone and aux output. I'm trying to find a better equalizer like the one the moto-x had. Call quality is about the same.
Notifications- The moto-x had the BEST notification system out there with the "active notifications" however the notification LED light on the nexus 5 is "fine" IMO.
Durability. A phone to me is a tool and takes a beating. This phone is very very fragile however i'm hoping a ballistic case will keep me safe.
Performance- Tie IMO as they seemed close enough
Software- Moto-x as someone who isn't into custom roms (yet) I liked the other features on the moto-x (EQ,) however i'm happy to always get the "latest" from Google.
Overall, if you aren't someone who streams spotify from your phone a lot and can keep a battery pack with you the nexus 5 is a great phone however I feel the moto-x is better overall (gasp) from a "stock" standpoint. I'm also comparing a $650 to a $400 phone here (off contract).
Also, What apps for Equalizer and such do you recommend? Anyway to get my AT&T visual voicemail on the phone?
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Was this comparison done with a Nexus 5 on 4.4.1? Because this newest update addressed the speaker/headphone loudness, vibration, and camera focusing speed / quality..

Appreciate your input. There have been quite a few X vs N5 comparos. They're very different phones. I had both. The X is special indeed and I look forward to its sequel.
They really missed the mark though on what I consider one of the most if not the most important part of a smartphone....the screen, what one looks at every time they use their phone. It's really bad. Although for those that are used to amoled and even prefer it, they'll not even notice it.
As for battery life they are dead even for my usage.
NX5

ws6kid said:
Was this comparison done with a Nexus 5 on 4.4.1? Because this newest update addressed the speaker/headphone loudness, vibration, and camera focusing speed / quality..
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Yes, I actually couldn't use the phone until I updated it. I have the "sprint" version on AT&T's network. I bought it at best buy as I had no phone. $449 for the 16gb is insane, i have the 32gb coming from the play store
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My biggest complain with this phone is the horrible antenna. The moto-x had THE BEST reception of any phone I have used.

Muffinman51432 said:
Yes, I actually couldn't use the phone until I updated it. I have the "sprint" version on AT&T's network. I bought it at best buy as I had no phone. $449 for the 16gb is insane, i have the 32gb coming from the play store
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My biggest complain with this phone is the horrible antenna. The moto-x had THE BEST reception of any phone I have used.
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So you're on the same carrier with both phones? My opinion is the N5 has awesome reception. You can try to enable sprint triband, as i've seen it around the forums. however, i use tmobile so i cant comment beyond that.

Muffinman51432 said:
Yes, I actually couldn't use the phone until I updated it. I have the "sprint" version on AT&T's network. I bought it at best buy as I had no phone. $449 for the 16gb is insane, i have the 32gb coming from the play store
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My biggest complain with this phone is the horrible antenna. The moto-x had THE BEST reception of any phone I have used.
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I do agree with you that the Moto X gets great reception. However, I get good reception with my N5 as well. But one factor you got going against you when you're talking about reception, is that you're on Sprint. Now I don't know how they are in your area. But in my area, they're mediocre. But inside buildings, Sprint has little to no signal at all...

EQ
I used ViPER4Android for my EQ. Give it a try

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So you're on the same carrier with both phones? My opinion is the N5 has awesome reception. You can try to enable sprint triband, as i've seen it around the forums. however, i use tmobile so i cant comment beyond that.
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I do agree with you that the Moto X gets great reception. However, I get good reception with my N5 as well. But one factor you got going against you when you're talking about reception, is that you're on Sprint. Now I don't know how they are in your area. But in my area, they're mediocre. But inside buildings, Sprint has little to no signal at all...
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I have AT&T with both phones. What I meant was I bought the "sprint" unlocked nexus 5 at best buy however the phone is the same.

Muffinman51432 said:
Yes, I actually couldn't use the phone until I updated it. I have the "sprint" version on AT&T's network. I bought it at best buy as I had no phone. $449 for the 16gb is insane, i have the 32gb coming from the play store
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My biggest complain with this phone is the horrible antenna. The moto-x had THE BEST reception of any phone I have used.
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Are you sure it is 4.4.1? We all had to update before we could even use the phone and that brought us to 4.4. 4.4.1 started rolling out last week.

Muffinman51432 said:
I have AT&T with both phones. What I meant was I bought the "sprint" unlocked nexus 5 at best buy however the phone is the same.
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Gotcha

MisterEff said:
Are you sure it is 4.4.1? We all had to update before we could even use the phone and that brought us to 4.4. 4.4.1 started rolling out last week.
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Yup 4.4.1

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Yup 4.4.1
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Weird that the update was forced on you.

MisterEff said:
Weird that the update was forced on you.
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I couldn't do anything until I updated. I had to drive home to update it as I couldn't get stable WIFI

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I couldn't do anything until I updated. I had to drive home to update it as I couldn't get stable WIFI
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That's how ours were when we first got them but they brought us to 4.4. Maybe Google just forces an update to the latest OTA whenever someone first boots up the phone.

I still haven't gotten the ota. I'm probably going to go ahead and root either tonight or tomorrow. I actually wanted to try a phone stock for a little bit before I started messing with it. I like Motorola phones the call quality and phone build is top notch. Thanks for the review
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Nexus 5 is definitely faster. While the Moto X isn't a slouch for being a dual-core, it is still slower and was noticeable to me.

jeepdroid31 said:
I still haven't gotten the ota. I'm probably going to go ahead and root either tonight or tomorrow. I actually wanted to try a phone stock for a little bit before I started messing with it. I like Motorola phones the call quality and phone build is top notch. Thanks for the review
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Maybe I understood it wrong, but you don't need to root the phone to flash the OTA.

MisterEff said:
Are you sure it is 4.4.1? We all had to update before we could even use the phone and that brought us to 4.4. 4.4.1 started rolling out last week.
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I didn't have to update before first using my n5. Your statement is inaccurate
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Muffinman51432 said:
Screen- The screen on this thing blows the moto-x out of the water (pun intended)
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What's the pun?
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I didn't have to update before first using my n5. Your statement is inaccurate
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It depends when you bought your phone. The first batch had an update on first boot, but the second batch of phones had this pre-installed.

[Q] Would you still buy the X now?

I have broke my screen on my S4 and being the way I am about phones I can't handle it anymore.
I have looked at the X because the price and I have liked Moto phones.
With all the new phones being announced would you still buy the X right now or would you wait for something else?

Slayers said:
I have broke my screen on my S4 and being the way I am about phones I can't handle it anymore.
I have looked at the X because the price and I have liked Moto phones.
With all the new phones being announced would you still buy the X right now or would you wait for something else?
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I'm going to buy a spare moto X as I predict no phone will come come close to it in ergonomics and thin bezel size/aesthetics for a long time.
Moto X2 is almost guaranteed to have a 5 inch screen = automatic disqualification. I have bigger than average hands (can grip a basketball) but I use my phone so little that I really can;t justify carrying around a huge screen 14 hours a day for the 2 minutes it comes in handy for.
Basically all the phones released this year are sh1t aesthetically.
S5 = thick size bezels, looks like a boat
HTC M8 = MASSSSSSSSSSSSSSIVE bottom bezel, huge phone for that small (in comparison) screen
Oppo Find 7 = Too big (that's what she said)
Sony = bezels always too thick
LG G2 = buttons on the back = GTFO LG
Nexus 5 = bezels are thicker than it's twin brother than LG G2 which is unacceptable for me
iphone 6 = as per leaks the side AND top/bottom bezels are very thick
Basically after being addicted to phones since 2011 I have spent close to $4k on this stupid hobby.
Top 3 phones were:
1. Moto X
2. iphone 5
3. Nexus 4

Slayers said:
I have broke my screen on my S4 and being the way I am about phones I can't handle it anymore.
I have looked at the X because the price and I have liked Moto phones.
With all the new phones being announced would you still buy the X right now or would you wait for something else?
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I'm in the situation your in right now. My S4's SIM tray self destructed. Needing a phone immediately and sick of using a large phone, I opted to buy the Moto X for 50 bucks.
Best phone I've ever owned. Period.
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My list of phones -> http://forums.androidcentral.com/an...3-post-your-phone-timeline-2.html#post2949873 and keep in mind, for the "Work" phones, I can pop my personal sim in and used them if I wanted.
Yes, I would still buy the X today.
Size, feel, screen, battery life, over all usability make the X my favorite device. And its great for single handed use.
My Samsungs don't feel right in my hand, and I have to shift them around too much for single handed use. Touchwiz is still too cartoony. There is a lot of bloat I don't use. The built in apps for SMS/MMS have issues when sending to non-samsung phones (S4), as does the calendar when sending invites(Note 2).
I like my BB Z10 more now that it runs Android APK's natively, and has a better camera than the X, but I like widgets and other things on the X better.
The only thing I'd change about the X is its camera in low light. It has gotten better with the software updates but its still not up to where it needs to be. That being said, for outdoors, the software improvements (rom and camera app) have made big improvements.
Oh, but if you want to Root the X, buy the developer edition, or one with an unlockable bootloader!!! It might cost you more, but you can be assured that you can root if you want.

In a heartbeat. I have always loved Motorola phones. If it wasn't for LTE I would have never got my S3. I genuinely feel like my droid x and x2 were better phones than my Galaxy S3, other than the LTE and camera.
I'd by an x right now cause there's nothing better out right now. Once the MotoX replacement comes out that might change. I'm hoping for a removable battery so I can get an extended battery.

I just bought one on eBay rather than a Nexus 5 - because no other manufacturer has really done the Active Notifications, Always-On Voice Command and the human-friendly design together just yet.
Here's to hoping Nexus 6 has all of those, though Active Notifications are unlikely on non-AMOLED phones.

Just got my X yesterday, so I guess I'm still in the "honeymoon" phase...but I'll be honest with you...I love this phone.
I have been around XDA for a while now and have owned 6 consecutive Android phones (goes without saying, I will have a sex change before I ever get an iPhone). I used to theme for several Moto phones back in the day (BIONIC/RAZR/DX). Motorola phones, in my opinion, are the best built phones out there. Mix that with Google and it's just a whole lot of awesome. From the day I rooted my original DROID I knew that I would never own another phone that I didn't root. 5 or so years later I have found myself with a phone that may never see the beautiful world of root and/or unlocked bootloaders. While that sucks, it says something about this phone. The fact that I am not regretting my decision to buy it should tell you how awesome it is. Everything about it is just sexy (besides the camera, which is nothing to write home about). As already mentioned, it is ergonomically stellar. By far the best in-hand feeling phone I've ever owned. Love the vibrant display and the nearly-vanilla android stock ROM.
To put it simply: I hate that it is locked down. But this is an incredibly solid and fun device and I could not be happier that I went with it. :good::good:

dubsx said:
Just got my X yesterday, so I guess I'm still in the "honeymoon" phase...but I'll be honest with you...I love this phone.
I have been around XDA for a while now and have owned 6 consecutive Android phones (goes without saying, I will have a sex change before I ever get an iPhone). I used to theme for several Moto phones back in the day (BIONIC/RAZR/DX). Motorola phones, in my opinion, are the best built phones out there. Mix that with Google and it's just a whole lot of awesome. From the day I rooted my original DROID I knew that I would never own another phone that I didn't root. 5 or so years later I have found myself with a phone that may never see the beautiful world of root and/or unlocked bootloaders. While that sucks, it says something about this phone. The fact that I am not regretting my decision to buy it should tell you how awesome it is. Everything about it is just sexy (besides the camera, which is nothing to write home about). As already mentioned, it is ergonomically stellar. By far the best in-hand feeling phone I've ever owned. Love the vibrant display and the nearly-vanilla android stock ROM.
To put it simply: I hate that it is locked down. But this is an incredibly solid and fun device and I could not be happier that I went with it. :good::good:
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You know about buying unlock codes? May not last long. If your phone is on his list.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751177

kj2112 said:
You know about buying unlock codes? May not last long. If your phone is on his list.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751177
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Yeah, mine was manufactured in September so I'm not going to go through the hassle to find out it's a no go. Thanks for looking out though!
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I actually did just receive my Moto X today. Coming from a rooted Galaxy S3 running CarbonROM and KT Kernel.
With my GS3's governor set to Interactive and the go_hispeed_load set to 50, the GS3 has smoother scrolling. But the unrooted, stock Moto X has faster app opening speed, which was pleasantly surprising.
Like many other users have said, all newer phones are simply just too big. All VZW phones are also locked, so it makes software considerations important. Moto X is as close to stock Android as you can get on-contract with Verizon and that is a huge plus IMO.
The touchless controls work surprisingly well, sometimes it doesn't fire, but it works consistently enough to be useful.
Negative:
Can't find a way to completely silence the phone. Even if I turn all volumes down to 0, if I accidentally trigger the Google Now hotword, it will beep. Bad during a test or interview.
The screen is a bit too warm. Even though the PPI is a tad higher than the GS3 and is a non-PenTile screen, white text on dark background on the Moto X looks weird. It's hard to describe but it almost seems liek as if the edges of the letters are bleeding.
My GS3 earbuds wire controls don't work.
Non-removable battery or microSD.
Camera.

I take it from what a few of you are saying is that no Moto X I buy now from the Moto Creator site or Verizon is going to be rootable if it's not a developer version, correct? If this is the case, how much extra am I going to have to spend? I need root for my root call blocker and greenify.
Also, I have been considering getting one of the wood back ones. I think they look super slick from the pictures I've see. Never seen one in person though. Any positives or negatives someone could share about the wood backs?
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jamesino said:
Can't find a way to completely silence the phone. Even if I turn all volumes down to 0, if I accidentally trigger the Google Now hotword, it will beep. Bad during a test or interview.
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Settings -> Touchless Controls ->Launch Phrase Sound [Unchecked]
Problem solved.

Slayers said:
I have broke my screen on my S4 and being the way I am about phones I can't handle it anymore.
I have looked at the X because the price and I have liked Moto phones.
With all the new phones being announced would you still buy the X right now or would you wait for something else?
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Yes. It's by far the best phone ever made.
The only phone you should consider waiting for is the Moto X+1 or LG G3

Yes if you can find a good deal on a used one. No because its been out for 9 months already which is like 5 years in phone time. If my X broke now I would get a beater phone for summer until iPhone6 or X+1 came out.

You ask a question like this in a Moto X forum, what answer do you expect?
I have a Moto X, and if the X2 is 5 inches, I will keep using my X. Best phone I ever had.
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Hmmm, Well if I get a brighter screen on my next DE X (warranty) then yes.

I have used the S4 and unless you put CyanogenMod to it, Touchwiz is just horrible and overall it's much slower than the Moto X. It's just a night and day difference in experience. You'll find much more useful features with the Moto X. The camera is not as good, but it's the only thing you'll miss. The Moto X is still a great device, there isn't any other device out now that make me want to switch to it probably until the Moto X+1 come out.

Active notifications are just a show stopper. Being able to pull your phone out of pocket abs it shows the time without even having to wake it. Also if its sitting on the desk , just nudge it and the time appears. It's brilliant
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I've had my motox for 7 months now and I can honestly say I would buy this phone again if I had to.
It's the only phone on the market that has the features I want.
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Slayers said:
I have broke my screen on my S4 and being the way I am about phones I can't handle it anymore.
I have looked at the X because the price and I have liked Moto phones.
With all the new phones being announced would you still buy the X right now or would you wait for something else?
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The answer is yes, just ordered mine yesterday. Cant wait to get it. Moving from a HTC One.
After reading through all these comments I'm even more excited to get it. I was able to get a student discount on it and I chatted with them so they sent me a free skip.

Phones like the Moto X?

I like this phone, but I can't root it properly and that's a problem. I think I'd rather return it and get a new one.
Is there a phone similar to the Moto X? By that I mean, at least as performant, at least hte battery life, and with a similar screen size/ resolution, but that *can* be rooted?

insanitybit said:
I like this phone, but I can't root it properly and that's a problem. I think I'd rather return it and get a new one.
Is there a phone similar to the Moto X? By that I mean, at least as performant, at least hte battery life, and with a similar screen size/ resolution, but that *can* be rooted?
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Maybe try a different carrier? I've been using my MotoX on Verizon rooted for around 2 months now and love it. The MotoX is such a great phone and I don't think you'll find anything like it.
Most phones on Verizon are in the same boat though, either requiring lots of work for root, and no way to unlock the bootloader.
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Yeah, maybe I'll just leave Verizon. I've just realized that I'd have to pay the 30 dollar restocking fee *anyways*, so I may as well spend 15 dollars more and buy a key to unlock the bootloader...

insanitybit said:
Yeah, maybe I'll just leave Verizon. I've just realized that I'd have to pay the 30 dollar restocking fee *anyways*, so I may as well spend 15 dollars more and buy a key to unlock the bootloader...
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Bootloader unlock isn't 100%. I know for newer devices it might be, but I think you should just get off VZN if you want to do anything with your X.
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The Developer Edition is still on sale. Can't beat that for easy to root.

The Maxx is locked up the same for Verizon users but screen is much better! I have no root & all is fine.

I'd say N5 if you weren't on Verizon. But that won't work.
Pay the 45 if you can get unlocked that way.... Or get a dev edition.
Or a totally different phone. This time do some homework first tho.
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Also... A Lot of phones are starting to get locked down... Meaning no root, or half baked root. Don't get anything without looking into it first. That should be done by anyone really.

It still baffles me how many times the I can't root my phone issue arises on a phone where the manufacturer spoon feeds developer editions even on Verizon.
Sell your phone or return it and get a developer edition. Problem solved

Dev Edition XT1060 not that hard to find. When you're on vzw your options are limited. If I left I'd get an N5.
If you want a VZW alternative to the Moto X, consider the HTC One (M7). They're very hackable, not much larger, a little faster, excellent display about the same size as the X. And they have the same Dove bar feel in your grip when you're single-handing it. Only downside is they only have two-color LEDs, afaik.
Also, they're pretty cheap and readily available on swappa.

cpurick said:
If you want a VZW alternative to the Moto X, consider the HTC One (M7). They're very hackable, not much larger, a little faster, excellent display about the same size as the X. And they have the same Dove bar feel in your grip when you're single-handing it. Only downside is they only have two-color LEDs, afaik.
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M7? It is WAY bigger than the X. M7 was actually taller than the S4, and one of the worst phone I have ever controlled. That slippery bastard was like a newborn. And that LED can't be seen without the ambient being pitch black, meaningless.
The only real competitor of X is / was Z1 Compact by Sony. It has a 4.3" display, but if OP can take that then it's a great phone. Otherwise as others have said get the DE of X.

SymbioticGenius said:
It still baffles me how many times the I can't root my phone issue arises on a phone where the manufacturer spoon feeds developer editions even on Verizon.
Sell your phone or return it and get a developer edition. Problem solved
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I don't think developer edition phones are subsidized. Not everybody can pay up front for a smartphone.

cpurick said:
I don't think developer edition phones are subsidized. Not everybody can pay up front for a smartphone.
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@KidJoe was saying you can finance them from Moto. Problem solved. ?

devilsdouble said:
M7? It is WAY bigger than the X. M7 was actually taller than the S4, and one of the worst phone I have ever controlled. That slippery bastard was like a newborn. And that LED can't be seen without the ambient being pitch black, meaningless.
The only real competitor of X is / was Z1 Compact by Sony. It has a 4.3" display, but if OP can take that then it's a great phone. Otherwise as others have said get the DE of X.
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I've had an M7. Yes, it's about the same size as a G2. But the performance and experience are comparable to the X. It has a robust developer community too, esp since it can run M8 ROMs with minimal conversion.
But it's something to see what was widely acknowledged one of the best phones of its day described as one of the worst ones you've owned. Personally, I liked it a lot.
Z1 Compact is considerably more phone than the Moto X, even if the screen is about as big as an iPhone's. Aren't those GSM-only phones though? And what kind of dev support is there for such a niche device? Plus I'm skeptical about battery life. Hot chip like that won't find a lot of battery hiding behind a tiny 4.3" screen.

cpurick said:
I've had an M7. Yes, it's about the same size as a G2. But the performance and experience are comparable to the X. It has a robust developer community too, esp since it can run M8 ROMs with minimal conversion.
But it's something to see what was widely acknowledged one of the best phones of its day described as one of the worst ones you've owned. Personally, I liked it a lot.
Z1 Compact is considerably more phone than the Moto X, even if the screen is about as big as an iPhone's. Aren't those GSM-only phones though? And what kind of dev support is there for such a niche device? Plus I'm skeptical about battery life. Hot chip like that won't find a lot of battery hiding behind a tiny 4.3" screen.
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M7 was described worst by me because of it's handling, I could not control the device with one had, always had to support the backside by another hand, which was a PITA for me. But yes, it's a good phone, and of course it has great XDA support.
Z1C has very good battery life. And I think it has enough support to root it and all. I don't think one will wanna run stock Android on Z1C, I mean it's not really needed as Sony's UI / framework is already pretty flat.