chusen popped me an Private Message. It contained this:
chusen said:
I've talked to HTC and they told me that if you cook a rom for tattoo sent it to the developers of HTC to see how we can load, you can cook a rom and try it?
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If I read that correctly, he/she said that they have contacted HTC, and if we send them a ROM, they will analyse to see how we can load the sucker onto the device.
Alas, I don't have the tools to do android ROM cooking (yet).
Anyone willing to cook us a stock AOSP ROM for us to pop over to the HTC Devs to analyse? By that, I mean, no root or anything (unless you know what you're doing ), just plain stock (with some mods to make it faster, or something like that.
If HTC doesn't backstab us and 'ally' with us, they may be kind enough to tell how to flash the ROM or boot it via Fastboot or something...
I've also tried to contact HTC Australia in regards to custom kernels not booting, but every time they say "Oh yes, we're going to call you today" they don't. Damn.
My question may sound dumb at first, but, on second thought, it makes sense.
I find most of the developement ROMs are still on the old bootloader including CM10 and many others.
The new bootloader was taken up by Stefan and one other ROM only. I thought that the new bootloader would be the direction taken by LG in its latest yet to be released ICS, and have adopted it. But now with Stefan has stopped his rom support on XDA, I am wondering if I should switch back or wait a few weeks for ROM developers.
I am seriously looking for the intuition from seniors at XDA on this issue, because even RC's CM10 is based off old bootloader / partition layout. (pls correct me if i am wrong).
thaks for your inouts.
Milind
What are the changes in the new bootloader in the first place? What are its advantages and disadvantages?
Hi guys.
Im not a good english speaker.
But i have something to tell guys.
Im not the developer of the rom with sense 4.1 venom.
He is chun, a korean developer, who succesfully build up Holiday Sense 4.1 with Venom for the first time.
Sense 4.1 rom has been released in korean forum for a while. But not here as he promised Team Venom. As i knoe.
Unfortunately, this man googled and found this rom.
He posted it for couple of hours. And then closed the thread. Because he didnt know it was not allowed.
The rom wasnt. And isnt gonna be without Team Venom's permission.
And this romwhich modfied, posted today and you guys downloaded was illegally modified and released.I had a convo with Chun. And he is very disappointed by this guy that he was never asked for that.
Its not a respect of developer. There is still some bugs hes been working on it.
What if he gives up and leaves us?
He fixed ril problem with 4.1
He is the one of amazingest developer we have.
Thanks for the explanation. Patiently waiting for a "clean" rom from the developer Chun.
nevermind thanks zero
Please tell chun we had nothing to do with the ROM posted here. We will respect him and his ROM and not post it here as its not allowed. Tell him thank you for his ril fix and if he would ever like to work with users on here to help with ROMs we are here. Users here are just excited because there isn't as much development going on as other phones
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ZeRo2o9 said:
Please tell chun we had nothing to do with the ROM posted here. We will respect him and his ROM and not post it here as its not allowed. Tell him thank you for his ril fix and if he would ever like to work with users on here to help with ROMs we are here. Users here are just excited because there isn't as much development going on as other phones
Sent from my HTC Vivid 4G
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Im gonna tell him about that.
Hes a very nice guy. So he will understand all.
By the way, i think he decided to release his rom without Venom. I will ask him if he has a plan for releasing his work here by then.
kijun93 said:
Im gonna tell him about that.
Hes a very nice guy. So he will understand all.
By the way, i think he decided to release his rom without Venom. I will ask him if he has a plan for releasing his work here by then.
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Great! I apreciate all his hard work
That would be good thank you. Without venom there should be no problem here with xda
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ZeRo2o9 said:
That would be good thank you. Without venom there should be no problem here with xda
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Why were venom tweaks included in the first place anyways?
camo_flage said:
Why were venom tweaks included in the first place anyways?
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His first rom was built up with Venom tweaks.
He confirmed it works fine with sense 4.1, no ril problem.
Therefore, he asked Team Venom to have the tweak with his rom for korean forum.
After all, he released it in korean forum finally.
And somehow blahblah happened. And this rom leaked.
He thought they wont find it out since it was posted in korean
I don't see any of the venom tweaks that are being said all I see is a stock rom well that's just me
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I don't see any of the venom tweaks that are being said all I see is a stock rom well that's just me
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The tweaks app is gone but the code needed for the tweaks is still there.
Moderating from my One Xl
Yes its many files in system framework and in the build.prop lines that are part of the tweaks
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E.Cadro1 said:
The tweaks app is gone but the code needed for the tweaks is still there.
Moderating from my One Xl
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The developer, Mr. chun wants to know what code is still remaining, so, with PM, would you specifically tell me which codes are?
kijun93 said:
Hi guys.
Im not a good english speaker.
But i have something to tell guys.
Im not the developer of the rom with sense 4.1 venom.
He is chun, a korean developer, who succesfully build up Holiday Sense 4.1 with Venom for the first time.
Sense 4.1 rom has been released in korean forum for a while. But not here as he promised Team Venom. As i knoe.
Unfortunately, this man googled and found this rom.
He posted it for couple of hours. And then closed the thread. Because he didnt know it was not allowed.
The rom wasnt. And isnt gonna be without Team Venom's permission.
And this romwhich modfied, posted today and you guys downloaded was illegally modified and released.I had a convo with Chun. And he is very disappointed by this guy that he was never asked for that.
Its not a respect of developer. There is still some bugs hes been working on it.
What if he gives up and leaves us?
He fixed ril problem with 4.1
He is the one of amazingest developer we have.
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I had a conversation with him. and found out some posts in korean forum that i didn't notice for a while. (cuz i'm not using holiday anymore. galaxy S3 <3)
anyway, you guys are right. he used venom tweak, but couldn't have a permission.
that's why he didn't post it here.
he has sent PM to two developers long time ago, but still no replies.
first. he used venom tweak, but no framework and codes i think, (i don't know about this... even he told me)
he was like he removed venom scripts and stuffs, and deodex apps by himself.
second, he posted it in korean forum for a week and then took it off. since he knows it's not a right thing to do.
he still has no permission for that, he feels guilty and decided to remove thread and link from korean forum.
third, he was fixing some bugs, and going to upload next rom without venom tweaks.
because he is not a pirate. And he knows this will disappoint Team Venom.
four, i think he is banned from XDA. i'm not sure if his next rom (without venom tweaks) will be able to release.
Ask him if he wants I can mirror it here for him that way those who can't read Korean can still get it
Sent from my HTC Vivid 4G
This is historical days for vivid
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E.Cadro1 said:
The tweaks app is gone but the code needed for the tweaks is still there.
Moderating from my One Xl
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sorceforge said:
The developer, Mr. chun wants to know what code is still remaining, so, with PM, would you specifically tell me which codes are?
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pretty much the whole rom includes venom files mods (short list)
framework.jar
framework-res.apk
android.policy.jar
htcextension.jar
ext.jar
i didnt check systemui.apk, htclockwidget, or any other jars and apks that typically are modded, but they might have venom stuff....really should be on the developer to a) not use someone elses base anyway or b) verify on their own no code remains if doing so
nitsuj17 said:
pretty much the whole rom includes venom files mods (short list)
framework.jar
framework-res.apk
android.policy.jar
htcextension.jar
ext.jar
i didnt check systemui.apk, htclockwidget, or any other jars and apks that typically are modded, but they might have venom stuff....really should be on the developer to a) not use someone elses base anyway or b) verify on their own no code remains if doing so
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Maybe he didnt realize that or something.
He used to be a kernel developer. Kinda newbie for roms.
I will tell him about this and i'm pretty sure he's willing to remove them all or use another basis rom.
His rom is base on another rom that contains venom.
I feel sorry for this.
This is like an up hill battle lol. That wasn't a dig at Team Venom by any means. Just sounds like Mr. Chun has to start from scratch almost from an RUU to ensure no tweaks or anything are being used. Can he share how he got the RIL to work in the first place? This could be a team effort and we could certainly get something in the works more easily in my opinion if the developers could work together on this.
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This is like an up hill battle lol. That wasn't a dig at Team Venom by any means. Just sounds like Mr. Chun has to start from scratch almost from an RUU to ensure no tweaks or anything are being used. Can he share how he got the RIL to work in the first place? This could be a team effort and we could certainly get something in the works more easily in my opinion if the developers could work together on this.
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Same opinion. But he still want to do it himself.
He said he thinks he removed them all for sure, but maybe he didnt.
Here's what he just told me
I dont think it makes sense there was still contaning Venom sources on the rom, The chinese developer posted that he changed frameworks and apps that he worked (deodex)
It seems like frameworks and apps were changed but maybe just some.
Unless that, Developer wouldnt find out any codes from them.
Thanks for checking.
To make sure, My next rom will have new frameworks and apps that doesnt contain any venom codes. (Deodex by himself)
Also he said, he already took off venom apps from his next rom.
It will be like stock or another tweak.
Anyway he's wondering if venom developer can verify/confirm that his next rom contains any venom codes.
So he wont make mistake for sure. (He will link you the rom.)
I think he's just too elementary developer missing codes delete.
I know this is not the Q&A thread. Don't shoot me. But i figured this was a dev question. Does anybody think or have tried flashing the stock droid ultra ROM to the moto x since they are VERY SIMILAR phones? Is it possible? Can it be done? Has anybody tried? If not and I was to try it do you think I can flash stock moto x IMG files back to normal? Or will i fubar my bootloader. Running Moto x Dev edit Verizon. These are questions that have been running through my head. Just thought I might ask. And is anybody willing to help me look into it? Thank you for taking the time to read and reply.
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I know this is not the Q&A thread. Don't shoot me. But i figured this was a dev question. Does anybody think or have tried flashing the stock droid ultra ROM to the moto x since they are VERY SIMILAR phones? Is it possible? Can it be done? Has anybody tried? If not and I was to try it do you think I can flash stock moto x IMG files back to normal? Or will i fubar my bootloader. Running Moto x Dev edit Verizon. These are questions that have been running through my head. Just thought I might ask. And is anybody willing to help me look into it? Thank you for taking the time to read and reply.
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Very similar is never close enough. Any ROM for a different phone will not work for a different device. Some exploit methods work on multiple devices but never Roms and kernals.
Imacellist said:
Very similar is never close enough. Any ROM for a different phone will not work for a different device. Some exploit methods work on multiple devices but never Roms and kernals.
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I only asked cause if cm11 pac-rom etc could do it maybe we could. Thanks for answering though. It was worth a shot. I just miss my droid ultra?
They are the same phone in almost every way and yes the builds are compatible, or at least the 4.2.2 and 4.4 builds were last year. When the leaked T-Mobile 4.4 build came out, I was running it perfect on my vzw moto x DE and at least one other person was running it on their droid ultra/maxx with no issues.
So your question for the devs was just answered by non devs. If you KNEW you were posting in the wrong thread, but wanted to make sure you got noticed please follow the rules next time. It's not like you didn't know this does not belong here.
Only try this if you have an unlocked boot loader. If you are locked then you are out of luck. Still recommend finding a build for your phone.
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Travisdroidx2 said:
So your question for the devs was just answered by non devs. If you KNEW you were posting in the wrong thread, but wanted to make sure you got noticed please follow the rules next time. It's not like you didn't know this does not belong here.
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i posted here thinking maybe devs have already tried it and/or have a workaround for it. i'm not going to start a fight with you over the internet cause thats just petty.
Moved here as this does not belong in the Development Section, OP please read the Forum Rules on posting.
Hi everyone. As the title says, I'm new to the moto x 2013 (xt1058). I have experience flashing roms and kernels with another device, so I'm not new to this kind of stuff.
I wonder whats the differecen between the two forum branches: "moto x 2013 android development" and "orgininal moto x 2013 android development".
My stock android is 4.4.2
Do you guys recommend me some roms, or should stay on stock?
I'm not a big fan of bleeding edge soft, but I'm VERY insterested on stability, smoothness, non-bug, non-lag sistems. (If you know MiniCM7 by nobodyatall, you'll get the idea).
So, with all that said, again...Do you guys recommend me some roms, or should stay on stock?
Thank you very much!
Somebody plz help. I'm not asking a difficult question
http://www.xda-developers.com/introducing-original-development-forums-for-more-devices/
Whether you stick with stock or a custom ROM is your personal choice. Both have their own pros and cons, and there are plenty of roms to compare 'em all.
Ok, thanks! So, where can I find more stable and bugs-free roms ? (no matter if it is KK or LL)
What I understand from the link you gave, is that original forum has developers own work, and that make me think this is the forum for me. Am I right?
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Ok, thanks! So, where can I find more stable and bugs-free roms ? (no matter if it is KK or LL)
What I understand from the link you gave, is that original forum has developers own work, and that make me think this is the forum for me. Am I right?
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I see almost everything is experimental. Nothing to do here, I guess...