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Battery drain due to RILJ. (Solved!)

Hi everybody,
I have seen quite a number of users get troubled and complain about high battery drain in JB roms. Most of them have used BetterBattery or other applications and found that RILJ seems to be the culprit. But I haven't seen anyone suggest a solution until now.
So I spent sometime tinkering with the settings and found that on CM10 roms (and may be others as well) turning off the Background Location Reporting removes the RILJ wakelock and stops the battery drain. The reason I guess is that since RILJ might be responsible for providing approximate location (using cell tower identification) it maintains a wakelock to do so.
I am using PA 2.10 so the following instructions are based on that. Other roms should have similar steps.
Here's how you turn Background Location Reporting off.
1. Go to System Settings
2. Under accounts, select Google/Maps and Latitude
3. Maps will fire up and it should show the Location Settings screen.
4. On the top tap Location Reporting and select Do not update your location.
That's it.
Now observe BetterBattery for a few hours and you should see a significant change in the listings and also battery drain. For me battery consumption went from ~1% per 3-5 mins on idle to ~1% per hour on idle.
One side effect of this change (I am guessing) could be that Google Now might not be able to show the location triggered cards. So take your pick on what is more important for you, battery life or value added services.
Cheers
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Just come across this via CM forums - I'm on I9100, but I guess it's the same thing. Trying this for a few hours to see what happens. I've seen a dramatic increase in battery usage over the past few days, strangely just after the most recent Maps update...
Quick update - turning that off doesn't change anything for me. Looks like Google Now still knows where I am and therefore there's another setting checking my location. I'm going to try turning Google Now off for a bit too.
Update again: it's not Google Now for me either. Need to do some further looking to try and track down what the exact request is!

good job

Thanks to the RILJ, my battery drain is 10% per hour right now and I'm going to try this solution immediately. Thanks a lot!

Ahalford has already done an indepth research on this subject and summarized all the wakelocks with possible solutions for each, RIL is one of them...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31352333
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will try it, ill report it tomorrow.
thank you for your solution.

nice job. just change the setting and wait for result.

Thanks! This has saved me from pulling out what little hair I have haha.

I really am close to killing myself due to sadness and disappointment because of my phone's battery life. lol. I have a Galaxy Note 2(4.1.1 ver) and my battery lasts for 12-16 hours. I use it mostly for Facebook, Google, Viber and YouTube. I have other typical social networking/comm apps (YM,Skype, Instagram,Twitter) but I dont use them often. I have less than 10 games (Temple Run2, Angry Birds, Diamond Dash) but I dont play for more than 15 mins. I have observed that when my phone is NOT in use, it decreases by 7-10% per hour during the day. At night, before I go to sleep, it is a fully charged phone and when I wake up, 25% of the battery's life is gone within 8hrs of not touching it even to check the time. I dont know if its the normal draining rate of the battery, if its a factory defect on the battery or the phone itself, or if it is the app or android system. My phone is just 4 days old, or maybe 5. Im hoping when the phone turns a week old, things will be better. Or should I try to kill myself now?
PS. I really want to try the solution given above coz upon reading it I realized that viber/fb etc is now showing my location. but i cant seem to find this on my phone. Can someone help me pleaseeeeee.

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Elai012488 said:
I really am close to killing myself due to sadness and disappointment because of my phone's battery life. lol. I have a Galaxy Note 2(4.1.1 ver) and my battery lasts for 12-16 hours. I use it mostly for Facebook, Google, Viber and YouTube. I have other typical social networking/comm apps (YM,Skype, Instagram,Twitter) but I dont use them often. I have less than 10 games (Temple Run2, Angry Birds, Diamond Dash) but I dont play for more than 15 mins. I have observed that when my phone is NOT in use, it decreases by 7-10% per hour during the day. At night, before I go to sleep, it is a fully charged phone and when I wake up, 25% of the battery's life is gone within 8hrs of not touching it even to check the time. I dont know if its the normal draining rate of the battery, if its a factory defect on the battery or the phone itself, or if it is the app or android system. My phone is just 4 days old, or maybe 5. Im hoping when the phone turns a week old, things will be better. Or should I try to kill myself now?
PS. I really want to try the solution given above coz upon reading it I realized that viber/fb etc is now showing my location. but i cant seem to find this on my phone. Can someone help me pleaseeeeee.
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Alternative method for turning on the setting "Your location is not updated":
1) Open the google maps app.
2) Press the physical "menu" button on your phone to get into settings for maps.
3) Click on settings in the menu that pops up.
4) Click on "Location Settings" in the menu that comes up.
5) Wait a second for "Location reporting" to update.
6) Click on "Location reporting".
7) Choose the "Do not update your location" option.
8) You're done.
This is how I did this on my Galaxy S3 and it seems to have fixed the RILJ wakelock issue I've been getting. It was waking up the cpu almost 300 times an hour. Hope it works for you.

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hypocorism said:
Alternative method for turning on the setting "Your location is not updated":
1) Open the google maps app.
2) Press the physical "menu" button on your phone to get into settings for maps.
3) Click on settings in the menu that pops up.
4) Click on "Location Settings" in the menu that comes up.
5) Wait a second for "Location reporting" to update.
6) Click on "Location reporting".
7) Choose the "Do not update your location" option.
8) You're done.
This is how I did this on my Galaxy S3 and it seems to have fixed the RILJ wakelock issue I've been getting. It was waking up the cpu almost 300 times an hour. Hope it works for you.
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Also Add an apk.... Geenify....puts your applications on hibernate unlike killing....you can use them as you want still wont drain your battery...give a shot it will help you a lot.
Check this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39163079#post39163079

satven21 said:
Also Add an apk.... Geenify....puts your applications on hibernate unlike killing....you can use them as you want still wont drain your battery...give a shot it will help you a lot.
Check this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39163079#post39163079
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I had the same rilj battery drain on S2. Disactivating the google app NEWS AND WEATHER battery drain due rilj is gone.

in case i deleted google maps what i can do bro?
hypocorism said:
Alternative method for turning on the setting "Your location is not updated":
1) Open the google maps app.
2) Press the physical "menu" button on your phone to get into settings for maps.
3) Click on settings in the menu that pops up.
4) Click on "Location Settings" in the menu that comes up.
5) Wait a second for "Location reporting" to update.
6) Click on "Location reporting".
7) Choose the "Do not update your location" option.
8) You're done.
This is how I did this on my Galaxy S3 and it seems to have fixed the RILJ wakelock issue I've been getting. It was waking up the cpu almost 300 times an hour. Hope it works for you.
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any suggestion for a solution?

Google Now and Battery Drain

It seems Google Now is draining my battery, not really bad, but it is keep my phone awake.
Now, I guess this is just part and parcel of Google Now having to constantly check your location, but has anybody else have an issue with Google Now on the One?
My battery lasted me 12hours yday with what I consider to be heavy use. Bluetooth Streaming Music for 2hrs web surfing over 3G for 2hrs whilst on the train with varying 3G signal, web surfing over wifi for 1hr (including downloading around 6 - 7mb. 15mins of calls. Around 40 whatsapp messages received and read, about 20 emails received via gmail and read, archived. Couple of minutes video, Switching Screen on just so I can see the phone I say at least four to five times and hour.
Not very scientific, sorry didn't really capture any screen shots with BetterBatteryStat, but gives you a rough idea what the usage was, all of that with Google Now on which I assume is constantly checking my position.
I would like to leave Google Now on, but if its going to make a big difference, then I have no choice but to switch it off. I continue to have location services on, but I assume that just allows apps to use it when required. Is there anything else from Google that requires constant checking of location?

Ok, usual suspects.. switched of location reporting under latitude and the partial awakes for the NetworkLocation seems to have more or less disappeared. Hopefully I get a couple more hours with the sort of use described above. If that's the case, I'm happy with that!
Note, location services under settings is still on.

hongsit said:
It seems Google Now is draining my battery, not really bad, but it is keep my phone awake.
Now, I guess this is just part and parcel of Google Now having to constantly check your location, but has anybody else have an issue with Google Now on the One?
My battery lasted me 12hours yday with what I consider to be heavy use. Bluetooth Streaming Music for 2hrs web surfing over 3G for 2hrs whilst on the train with varying 3G signal, web surfing over wifi for 1hr (including downloading around 6 - 7mb. 15mins of calls. Around 40 whatsapp messages received and read, about 20 emails received via gmail and read, archived. Couple of minutes video, Switching Screen on just so I can see the phone I say at least four to five times and hour.
Not very scientific, sorry didn't really capture any screen shots with BetterBatteryStat, but gives you a rough idea what the usage was, all of that with Google Now on which I assume is constantly checking my position.
I would like to leave Google Now on, but if its going to make a big difference, then I have no choice but to switch it off. I continue to have location services on, but I assume that just allows apps to use it when required. Is there anything else from Google that requires constant checking of location?
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How are you getting that kind of battery life?! Check out my posts in the 'battery life' thead in the 'general' section. 12h is exactly what I'm looking for but I am getting like 9h
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yvibes said:
How are you getting that kind of battery life?! Check out my posts in the 'battery life' thead in the 'general' section. 12h is exactly what I'm looking for but I am getting like 9h
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Well, as you know it's all depends on what you run and how you use it. So I can't really answer your question. I can tell you what apps I used though, I unplugged my phone at 7:30am and used Play Movies for a few mins, playing a video, used Gallery for a few mins, check train times using National Rail Enquiries app, used Chrome for browsing on 3G, bluetooth streaming music for 1hr on my commute into work. Used Chrome for browsing and Sky News app on WiFi for say 30mins... downloaded some files over wifi and 3G. 10 - 15 pushed emails, 40 odd whatsapp messages which involved downloading some images, blinkfeed updates probably 3 -4 times, maybe more.
10 - 15mins worth of calls and lots of switch on screen and going through some settings and homescreen navigation and Play Store navigation.
Then browsing over 3G and BT music streaming for another hour on the commute back home.
BT and WiFi was on all day.
I had Google Now on, location settings on, latitude on and the phone was at 2% around 7:30pm when I plugged it back in.
Not very scientific but hopefully you can tell if you use more power hungry apps than I do.
Then recently downloaded BetterBatteryStat and GSamBatteryMonitor and realised that Maps was keep my phone aware for not excessive periods, but throughout the day, I say about 1.5hours. So I looked into exactly what that was and it turned out to be Location Settings in Latitude and potentially google now. Set both of those off and kept location settings on under the main settings, so apps can use it on request.
The phone is now spending less time awake when screen off. There is also a Facebook refresh interval setting, I don't exactly know what that is, but that was set to every 30mins. So I have changed that to every 4hrs. Notifications from Facebook are still pushed I think.
One thing I have set is Blinkfeed to auto te on wifi only and not wifi and mobile data and that was set when I got the phone.
Being a new phone I'm using this more than I would normally, so I'm more than happy with the results. To me, the above is me using it a lot, some people may say that's actually moderate use... so it's all subjective.
Battery life is one those things where you just won't get the same result for everyone, it really depends on so many factors, so you may have done so already and you probably know exactly what you're doing (I haven't read your post unfortunately, meant to be working at the mo) but all I can say, is install those two apps I've mentioned and have a look at partial wake locks and go from there.
Hope that helps.

hongsit said:
Well, as you know it's all depends on what you run and how you use it. So I can't really answer your question. I can tell you what apps I used though, I unplugged my phone at 7:30am and used Play Movies for a few mins, playing a video, used Gallery for a few mins, check train times using National Rail Enquiries app, used Chrome for browsing on 3G, bluetooth streaming music for 1hr on my commute into work. Used Chrome for browsing and Sky News app on WiFi for say 30mins... downloaded some files over wifi and 3G. 10 - 15 pushed emails, 40 odd whatsapp messages which involved downloading some images, blinkfeed updates probably 3 -4 times, maybe more.
10 - 15mins worth of calls and lots of switch on screen and going through some settings and homescreen navigation and Play Store navigation.
Then browsing over 3G and BT music streaming for another hour on the commute back home.
BT and WiFi was on all day.
I had Google Now on, location settings on, latitude on and the phone was at 2% around 7:30pm when I plugged it back in.
Not very scientific but hopefully you can tell if you use more power hungry apps than I do.
Then recently downloaded BetterBatteryStat and GSamBatteryMonitor and realised that Maps was keep my phone aware for not excessive periods, but throughout the day, I say about 1.5hours. So I looked into exactly what that was and it turned out to be Location Settings in Latitude and potentially google now. Set both of those off and kept location settings on under the main settings, so apps can use it on request.
The phone is now spending less time awake when screen off. There is also a Facebook refresh interval setting, I don't exactly know what that is, but that was set to every 30mins. So I have changed that to every 4hrs. Notifications from Facebook are still pushed I think.
One thing I have set is Blinkfeed to auto te on wifi only and not wifi and mobile data and that was set when I got the phone.
Being a new phone I'm using this more than I would normally, so I'm more than happy with the results. To me, the above is me using it a lot, some people may say that's actually moderate use... so it's all subjective.
Battery life is one those things where you just won't get the same result for everyone, it really depends on so many factors, so you may have done so already and you probably know exactly what you're doing (I haven't read your post unfortunately, meant to be working at the mo) but all I can say, is install those two apps I've mentioned and have a look at partial wake locks and go from there.
Hope that helps.
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Thanks so much for this will see my wake locks now. So where exactly do I go to turn of the location thing in maps??
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You can turn off use WiFi and cellular to help reduce the wakelocks or disable Google now. I never use now and it was always a horrible battery drain for me.
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yvibes said:
Thanks so much for this will see my wake locks now. So where exactly do I go to turn of the location thing in maps??
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Do you have the App Google Settings. It came with the phone and it has a green icon. Go in there and under Maps & Latitude you'll see a load of settings.
1) Switch off Location reporting, I used "Do not update your location", however, I think you can use "Set your location".
2) I've unchecked Report from this Device.
3) Enable Location Sharing was unchecked for me by default.
4) Disable location history
5) Disable Automatic Check Ins
I also have google+ off.
Now, obviously if you like to use that stuff, then you have no choice, but I don't need to keep track of where Ive been and I don't need constant reminders about things around me and how long it takes to get home on public transport (which only includes buses btw). If I did need local information, there is plenty of other apps that does that at my request.
If they refined it and made it much more configurable then it might be good, e.g. include trains and actually let me configure when the times I want it to start checking, e.g. when I finish work, an hour before start looking at weather, train times home, any delays and whats on TV.. now that would be brilliant, one it will save power as it will only check location at specific times and two it's actually useful information at that particular time.
Thats me though. Others might need Google Now as it is..
Hope that helps.

hongsit said:
Do you have the App Google Settings. It came with the phone and it has a green icon. Go in there and under Maps & Latitude you'll see a load of settings.
1) Switch off Location reporting, I used "Do not update your location", however, I think you can use "Set your location".
2) I've unchecked Report from this Device.
3) Enable Location Sharing was unchecked for me by default.
4) Disable location history
5) Disable Automatic Check Ins
I also have google+ off.
Now, obviously if you like to use that stuff, then you have no choice, but I don't need to keep track of where Ive been and I don't need constant reminders about things around me and how long it takes to get home on public transport (which only includes buses btw). If I did need local information, there is plenty of other apps that does that at my request.
If they refined it and made it much more configurable then it might be good, e.g. include trains and actually let me configure when the times I want it to start checking, e.g. when I finish work, an hour before start looking at weather, train times home, any delays and whats on TV.. now that would be brilliant, one it will save power as it will only check location at specific times and two it's actually useful information at that particular time.
Thats me though. Others might need Google Now as it is..
Hope that helps.
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Here is my better battery stats screenshot. Anything I need to know?
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yvibes said:
Here is my better battery stats screenshot. Anything I need to know?
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I'm no expert, but that seems OK to me.

Google Now was an even bigger drain on my S3 ...I had to disable it on that phone. I was struggling to get past 6 hours! I deactivated all the Google Now cards and the battery life returned. The One is clearly better because even with those same cards enabled, I can easily get through the day and beyond. Google Now is clever, but power hungry.

hongsit said:
I'm no expert, but that seems OK to me.
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Next thing to look at is the App Sucker in GSamBattery Monitor and set it View Time Held Awake. My top three are Kernal (Android OS) 38m 1s, Google Services 13m 37s and System (*wakelock*) at 10m 9s.
You can find a lot of info in there and you can drill down even further and usually can tell what exactly is it that's draining the batt. Kernal and System, I don't know enough about, but when there's specific Apps that show high battery consumption you can tell straight away.
E.g. yday, I started up Sky Go even though I knew it wasn't working and shut it down immediately. However, it continued to run in the background and could only tell by looking at the BetterBatteryStats and GSamBattery Monitor.

hongsit said:
Next thing to look at is the App Sucker in GSamBattery Monitor and set it View Time Held Awake. My top three are Kernal (Android OS) 38m 1s, Google Services 13m 37s and System (*wakelock*) at 10m 9s.
You can find a lot of info in there and you can drill down even further and usually can tell what exactly is it that's draining the batt. Kernal and System, I don't know enough about, but when there's specific Apps that show high battery consumption you can tell straight away.
E.g. yday, I started up Sky Go even though I knew it wasn't working and shut it down immediately. However, it continued to run in the background and could only tell by looking at the BetterBatteryStats and GSamBattery Monitor.
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Concentrate on the top 2 mate, seems like Maps and MediaServer what ever that is keep your phone awake for over 30mins. I would set a custom ref and switch screen off and check again say 10mins.
I've also discovered something else in Kernel Wakelock. Im on wifi at home and after 5 mins of screen off, it nearly has 1min of MSM_HSIC_HOST wakelock. I think this is the modem and wonder why it needs to wakeup as all data is going via wifi. Since unplugged this is at 1hr 17mins, with only roughly 1hr away from home. Does anybody know if this sounds right?
It is something else to look into

Nexus 5 BETTER Battery Performance

I have been reading the many battery threads where people are posting screenshots and either complaining or raving about their particular Nexus 5’s battery performance. I am shocked that some people are turning off their Wifi, Mobile Data, GPS, Google Now, Sync, and every other feature that makes these phones so useful and still suffering with poor battery performance.
In this thread, instead of complaining or bragging about your battery performance, I thought that this could be used as a place where you all can post how you use your device and what you are doing to save juice and how it works. I’ll go first.
I have had 3 different Nexus 5’s. The first had the speaker/microphone problem and was RMAed. The second was doing great until it overheated and the LEDs at the bottom of the screen exploded. It was RMAed. My current one seems to have a weaker vibrator motor, but I’m going to live with it.
I use my phone instead of my laptop. It seems the only time I use my laptop these days it to flash my phone. I browse the web (Chrome), watch YouTube (YouTube App), read my email (Gmail), shop Amazon (Amazon App), manage my schedule (Calendar App, Pure Calendar Widget), get my news (Flipboard), participate in groups (Google Plus), Chromecast (Netflix, YouTube), participate in these forums (XDA Premium App), and various others. I don’t really play games and don’t tax the CPU to hard.
To save juice, I…
use LUX to manage my screen brightness and usually can function with the screen below 0% unless I’m outside.
use Tasker to turn on/off my wifi, data, gps, sync, and perform a few other tasks, kind-of-like juice defender, but a lot more reliable.
use Better Battery Stats to keep an eye on my apps and de-install apps with bad behavior. I plan on installing Greenify, but have not gotten around to it.
I usually get 12 to 14 hours with 3-4 hours screen time before I plug my phone in at night and have 25%-50% battery left. And, I don't feel I'm depriving myself of any performance.
Some things I have read…
With these new batteries, you never want to let them fully discharge. In fact, keeping them charged is very important, so having a charger at work, or in your car is a good practice.
When your phone gets hot, give it a rest. A hot phone is not working efficiently, and you can damage the battery permanently if it overheats.
It takes a few days for your phone to reach its best performance. When you first get it, it is working in the background to index files and such, which is keeping the phone from reaching deep sleep and is using juice.
After an update, if your phone just doesn’t seem right, it might not be. Do a factory reset and try again. If something didn’t update correctly, there is no telling what could be affected…even your battery performance.
If you have ideas on how to increase battery performance, or discovered apps or settings that drain your battery, please post them here.
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Make sure your apps are configured properly. For example, make sure apps such as Google + are configured to only backup while charging.
In Settings / Locations, set mode to 'Battery Saving' . It passively detects your location which uses no battery. It has been reported that turning off 'location reporting' has no negative effect on Now and Maps. This is a big juice saver.
Kill apps when done using them. Some apps, if left open, will continue draining your juice.
Turn off 'Scanning Always Available' in Wifi /Advanced Settings.
Things I Have Been Experimenting With...
Greenify is a great app for battery optimization. I have apps on my phone that I don't use often, but seem to keep the phone awake. Greenify them and put the app to bed until you need it.
I've been experimenting with Kernels. After much experimentation, I used Franco Kernel on my GN, so I tried his out and have noticed a battery savings on my screen off time. This is a recommendation for rooted phones because the Franco Updater app on the Play Store does all the heavy lifting.
If you find this information helpful, please hit the 'thanks' button.
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My battery life has been fantastic ever since I disabled Google+. It was constantly running in the background all the damn time and just destroying my battery when I wasn't even using it. Ever since I disabled it, I can easily pull down 4-5 hours of screen on time.
That being said, I'm definitely an opportunistic charger. I work from home so it's easy to keep my phone juiced up when I'm not using it. I rarely go below 50%.

Wow. On stock I easily get 5 hours screen on time with everything on, but only 14ish hours total. With light usage (2 1/2 hrs) close to 27 hours. However I've seen guys posting over 3 days so now I'm playing around with kernels (Franco at the moment) and multirom. I'm using ART but not sure how much difference honestly.
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maxpower7 said:
My battery life has been fantastic ever since I disabled Google+. It was constantly running in the background all the damn time and just destroying my battery when I wasn't even using it. Ever since I disabled it, I can easily pull down 4-5 hours of screen on time.
That being said, I'm definitely an opportunistic charger. I work from home so it's easy to keep my phone juiced up when I'm not using it. I rarely go below 50%.
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You can also just greenify Google+ and also check if you have the photo backup with it turned to on. I found my app running for half an hour while phone was off and it was due to the backing up of the photos.

Instead of opening "yet another thread", this could've been posted here, here, here, here, here and probably in many others..

I use Google+ every day all day. The impact it has on battery life is zero. Of course that's my experience. If it's murdering your battery them you don't have something set up properly or as they say "you're doing it wrong"
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rayiskon said:
Instead of opening "yet another thread", this could've been posted here, here, here, here, here and probably in many others..
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Yea. But mostly you will read people bragging or complaining. There is a lot of good information in those threads, but to find it, you will have to dig. My intention is that this thread will be a place to find, test, and compile solutions for those suffering with poor performance.
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jbdan said:
I use Google+ every day all day. The impact it has on battery life is zero. Of course that's my experience. If it's murdering your battery them you don't have something set up properly or as they say "you're doing it wrong"
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I also use Google + every day with little impact. I checked my settings and I have it set to only back up while on WiFi and only while charging.
I also use Tasked to turn off sync when the screen is off keeping the phone in deep sleep.
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I greenify most apps, keep screen brightness down, GPS Bluetooth always off, data only on when screen on, etc. I got 1 day 15 hours with over 6 hours screen time with my usage. I mostly use my phone for xda, 9gag, some chrome browsing, and a couple other things.
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JamieFL said:
I also use Google + every day with little impact. I checked my settings and I have it set to only back up while on WiFi and only while charging.
I also use Tasked to turn off sync when the screen is off keeping the phone in deep sleep.
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Yup I use that same setting thanks for pointing that out :good:
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IMO, I shouldn't have to do any of this to "save" battery life. It is what it is.

jbdan said:
I use Google+ every day all day. The impact it has on battery life is zero. Of course that's my experience. If it's murdering your battery them you don't have something set up properly or as they say "you're doing it wrong"
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Google+ kills my battery regardless of what my settings are. I literally only used it as an offline photo gallery - there was no syncing being done at all, no auto-awesome, no photo backups or any of that. I don't know how there could possibly be any user error in my setup.

I think literally the only thing that should be done to save battery life is to disable location reporting and to possibly disable autobrightness when indoors. Other than that, nothing needs to be done to get spectacular battery life. All I have is a tasker profile to disable autobrightness when connected to my wifi network and re-enable it when I am not connected, and then location reporting turned off. I get 6 hours screen on time daily.

muyoso said:
I think literally the only thing that should be done to save battery life is to disable location reporting and to possibly disable autobrightness when indoors. Other than that, nothing needs to be done to get spectacular battery life. All I have is a tasker profile to disable autobrightness when connected to my wifi network and re-enable it when I am not connected, and then location reporting turned off. I get 6 hours screen on time daily.
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Location reporting is such a huge battery drain and it doesn't seem to have any real benefits. Google Now works fine without it.

maxpower7 said:
Location reporting is such a huge battery drain and it doesn't seem to have any real benefits. Google Now works fine without it.
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Yea. I was very surprised that it had absolutely zero impact to turn it off for me. Google Now works perfectly fine. Maps works. Everything works. I guess the only negative is that you are not contributing information into the Google hivemind to help out others with traffic information and crap like that. . . . Otherwise there are no negative effects to turning it off, and doing so squashes the nlp wakelock bug completely.

For me at least, I went from about half a day on full battery to almost a day and a half by turning off LTE and Wi-Fi scanning with constant usage. I was conflicted a bit for choosing either LTE or battery life but I'm happier with choosing battery life.
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I added the suggestion about setting location reporting off. Thanks.
I've heard that if your area has poor LTE signal, that can cause a big battery drain. Can anyone confirm that? If this is true, this could be a big contributor to unexplained battery drain.

muyoso said:
Yea. I was very surprised that it had absolutely zero impact to turn it off for me. Google Now works perfectly fine. Maps works. Everything works. I guess the only negative is that you are not contributing information into the Google hivemind to help out others with traffic information and crap like that. . . . Otherwise there are no negative effects to turning it off, and doing so squashes the nlp wakelock bug completely.
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Were you still able to get traffic notifications? It's weird that it doesn't seem to affect weather updates as well.

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Were you still able to get traffic notifications? It's weird that it doesn't seem to affect weather updates as well.
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Not sure about traffic notifications as I work from home and Google cannot comprehend that and thinks I work at the grocery store, but weather notifications work perfectly. Just traveled for Christmas and it was tracking me perfectly from city to city.

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Not sure about traffic notifications as I work from home and Google cannot comprehend that and thinks I work at the grocery store, but weather notifications work perfectly. Just traveled for Christmas and it was tracking me perfectly from city to city.
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Gotcha. I mean it's not a huge deal. Google often thinks I'm driving to work/class when I'm not actually doing so and it's more useful to check traffic within the Maps app anyway. I'll try the reporting off for a few days though and see how much of a difference it makes.

Android system draining battery

I'm not sure what's considered high android system but mine is at 29% and looks like it's taking a toll on my battery. When I check the battery usage it's the highest thing listed. How can I lower this or fix this? Any help is greatly appreciated! I love this phone!

same problem here ... android system is at 24% with 59 minutes of CPU usage while screen was about 20% with more than 2 hours of screen on time !?! Why system is killing the cpu so much ? ... TouchWiz !!! *SMH*

Give it a week or so to even out.

This could be any app that is pulling your location. Most pull through your location through google play services, part of the android system. Not defending touchwiz usage but most likely the fault lies elsewhere.

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This could be any app that is pulling your location. Most pull through your location through google play services, part of the android system. Not defending touchwiz usage but most likely the fault lies elsewhere.
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I dont think so my location its off and still takes 29%, maybe a kernel issue. I heard they did the update we just got cause battery draining issues. maybe not fixed 100%

I get the same thing and I made sure to turn off notifications and apps that "push" and set em all to manual. I use the same apps and settings on my S5, and LG G3 and would be able to get around 6 hour screen time and total of 17-20 hours per charge. AND on those devices, the screen is usually the highest % and the android system is not even near that %
Right now I'm getting almost about the same as my S5 battery life, maybe a bit shorter...

Same problem here, about 42% on a normal usage. I did not have this problem before, on stock Rom but since I switched to cynanogenmod, my phone can't make it through the day.
What's more, I'd like to know if any of you know an xposed module or an app which can automatically turn switches on/off when starting/closing an app. Like turning GPS on when starting Google Maps and turning it back off when closing the app, for instance.
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Good queetion, I'd be interested in that as well
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mines also like this

I found this was related to location services and / or google now.
I found these worked for me:
1. Turning GPS location to GPS only (i.e. not using wifi). I believe this stops passive location tracking, which in turns stops the other services always running
2. Turning off location tracking / history. As above, no detailed location, no other fancy things running all the time.
3. Turning off Google Now.
I listed the above in the order I would do it. Using just item one, you still get most of Google Now's functionality.
End of the day, what I found was there was a lot of "smart" stuff going on in the background around your location, and this is what caused most of the CPU time. If you look at your wake locks, you will see it drop off dramatically once you do the above steps.
Some people have reported turning location services back on after a while didn't result in a spike in CPU time.
This isn't a Note 4 thing, more a Android / Google Now thing in my opinion,.
Hope it helps.

mrja22 said:
I found this was related to location services and / or google now.
I found these worked for me:
1. Turning GPS location to GPS only (i.e. not using wifi). I believe this stops passive location tracking, which in turns stops the other services always running
2. Turning off location tracking / history. As above, no detailed location, no other fancy things running all the time.
3. Turning off Google Now.
I listed the above in the order I would do it. Using just item one, you still get most of Google Now's functionality.
End of the day, what I found was there was a lot of "smart" stuff going on in the background around your location, and this is what caused most of the CPU time. If you look at your wake locks, you will see it drop off dramatically once you do the above steps.
Some people have reported turning location services back on after a while didn't result in a spike in CPU time.
This isn't a Note 4 thing, more a Android / Google Now thing in my opinion,.
Hope it helps.
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thanks for the advice and suggestions, but my s4 and s5 did not have the "android system" so high in usage. i've tried the turning off gps, then back on, and then restart phone thingy, but same results. i just hope sammy would address this issue as it seem pretty widespread.

MMakoto said:
thanks for the advice and suggestions, but my s4 and s5 did not have the "android system" so high in usage. i've tried the turning off gps, then back on, and then restart phone thingy, but same results. i just hope sammy would address this issue as it seem pretty widespread.
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Just to clarify,Ii suggest turning location to GPS only. And leaving it off.
Turn off location reporting and history also. Then see what results you get and go from there

I'm having the same thing ...

I just received a update that is supposed to fix the battery drain issue. We shall see if it works.

railslave said:
I just received a update that is supposed to fix the battery drain issue. We shall see if it works.
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The update that came out this week or a different one.

mrja22 said:
I found this was related to location services and / or google now.
I found these worked for me:
1. Turning GPS location to GPS only (i.e. not using wifi). I believe this stops passive location tracking, which in turns stops the other services always running
2. Turning off location tracking / history. As above, no detailed location, no other fancy things running all the time.
3. Turning off Google Now.
I listed the above in the order I would do it. Using just item one, you still get most of Google Now's functionality.
End of the day, what I found was there was a lot of "smart" stuff going on in the background around your location, and this is what caused most of the CPU time. If you look at your wake locks, you will see it drop off dramatically once you do the above steps.
Some people have reported turning location services back on after a while didn't result in a spike in CPU time.
This isn't a Note 4 thing, more a Android / Google Now thing in my opinion,.
Hope it helps.
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Thanks a lot ...
Location tracking off made a big difference ... Things are already looking good. I will only turn on the GPS when need be.

Mr.37 said:
Thanks a lot ...
Location tracking off made a big difference ... Things are already looking good. I will only turn on the GPS when need be.
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Good to hear.
I found I can have GPS on without any issues, as long as either Google Now or location tracking was off.

Any more info ?

I am having the same issue in tandem with weak battery signal. Do I wait for Lollipop or do I just sell my N4 and get an S6?

[Q] Still chasing battery drain: Is it possible FingerPrint Unlock is part of it?

So having come from Verizon's Note 4 and averaging up to 24hrs on battery running pretty much the same setup as I do now on my T-Mobile Note 4 minus the "Root" & "Custom Rom" abilities. Otherwise, same apps, accounts, usage pattern, ect...
I am on an ongoing battle still after several complete wipes, different Roms including just running STOCK ANK4 and trying to figure out what is going on. Phone defect? Battery defect?
Anyhow, Ever since changing over to both the T-Mobile Note 4 & their service, my experience has been a rather miserable 14 to 18hrs MAX battery life and going from 4hrs screen on time to around 2 1/2 w/ T-Mobile.
Which now leads me yet to wonder something else. I believe I started using the "FingerPrint" security feature since switching to T-Mobile to unlock the device. Has anyone experienced a similar "Battery longevity" issue using said feature before I continue troubleshooting and chasing my own tail on this? Of course I will eventually test this theory anyhow, but figured I would throw it out there.
Also, Open to any suggestions.
Just some things I have already done along with the above mentioned:
- Utilized the App "Greenify" & donation full version to greenify many apps including "Google Play Services".
- Set up Profiles which I toggle via "PhoneWeaver" to turn off data when on Wi-Fi which consists of 90% of my day as I'm Wi-Fi connected both at home and work.
- Of course always turn off that option within Wi-Fi settings to untick "Always Scan".
- Went into "Google" app settings and turned off about everything I can find in there and it's now rather complex settings.
- Turned off most syncing of my 2 "Google" accounts to only one having anything other than Email Sync active such as the Calendar, Contacts, and Apps Sync. - Again, my 1 Google Account I only have set to sync Email and nothing else.
Sure I forgot some things I've tried but again, I am open to any/all suggestions. I admit, I bought my T-Mobile via Swappa. All seemed well as per their checklist of the obvious things to check regarding the phone's operation. Kind of stuck here now and wondering if my device is simply defective and/or the battery.
Also of note: Android System is always by far the largest contributor to my battery drain and exceeds even Screen-On time by around 10%. But then again, don't really know if that means anything or not since even before switching carriers and the transition from "JellyBean" to "KitKat" on my previous S4, Android System became a forever battery hog for me.
Just never had a top end device such as this in past years barely get me through a complete day: Work & Home time. I don't consider myself a heavy user. Barely even "Moderate" many days as I mainly text during my lunch break, otherwise phone is pretty much idle. And say 2 phone calls of aprox 20 min.s each during commute time. Yea, something just isn't right. :crying:

I have noticed 3 things that were hurting battery bad.
1.) Use the Google play services with the 030 extension. I get way better battery life on it 5% to 10% increase in battery life. Link below:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...ices-7-0-99-1809214-030-android-apk-download/
2.) If you are not using maps or other location services turn your location off. Literally a 20%+ increase in battery from this alone.
3.) Toggle your NFC. Something in Android 4.4.4 sometimes causes your NFC to wake lock. If you turn it on then turn it off one time it normally fixes is.
I attached my battery stats below.
It with about 2 hours of screen on time.
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ShrekOpher said:
I have noticed 3 things that were hurting battery bad.
1.) Use the Google play services with the 030 extension. I get way better battery life on it 5% to 10% increase in battery life. Link below:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...ices-7-0-99-1809214-030-android-apk-download/
2.) If you are not using maps or other location services turn your location off. Literally a 20%+ increase in battery from this alone.
3.) Toggle your NFC. Something in Android 4.4.4 sometimes causes your NFC to wake lock. If you turn it on then turn it off one time it normally fixes is.
I attached my battery stats below.
It with about 2 hours of screen on time.
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Thanks for the reply and suggestions! I just checked and I am currently running Google Play Services V 7.0.97 (1791429-030).
A couple things I have done meanwhile since my OP which have had "some" noticeable positive effects on my battery duration, yet still no where near what you have posted are:
Within "Google Settings" app:
- Account History ( I have "turned off or rather paused" ALL the Activity/Info/History settings here - All 5)
Regarding my 2nd, basically "Junk mail" Gmail Account:
- Now have ALL "Sync" turned off within, including the syncing of email, which I now simply check manually to update.
Greenify:
- Revisited, and added a bunch more apps and pretty much "Greenified" ALL Samsung related entries/services/ect...
So far I have increased to achieving up to about 3 1/2 hrs Screen time (Gained 1 hr) & a few more hours of real time battery longevity as I can now achieve close to 20hrs before needing charge.
Still feel I have some troubleshooting to go. Oh, I actually have the NFC Service "Greenified" to. So far haven't really noticed a problem with "Deep Sleep" either according to CPU SPY pro.
Yep, Have always had the Location Service to OFF, not even using the so called "Battery saving" selection with it. Such a pity to have to cripple such things but it's a trade off I guess in achieving a full day's battery vs.s using the features with this phone for some reason more-so than past devices it seems. At least in my case. :silly: