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.. Is the milestone ... Outdated ?

i am about to buy a smartphone (for the first time since my dumbphone SE W595)
and i want something perfect that'll stay with me like 2 years or so
i checked all of the new phones (Desire + n1 + Galaxy S and millions!) and honestly even with all these teachy stuff and zippy processor .. i didn't like a phone more than the Milestone
Big screen + QWERTY keyboard + pretty good camera for a go-go price !
but .. it was released on the end of 2009 and have a 550MHz (though it can be overclocked anytime) and that locked bootloader (ugh!)
wat i want on a phone is 1-watch movies & videos , 2-loading my almost 5500 set of music in it 3- hardcore 3D gaming , 4-good camera , 5-QWERTY (regular teenager stuff) and Android !
is it really the right phone for me or i should wait for something better (e.g Milestone 2?) (as the international Droid 2) ?
Regards , Mike

I would wait, the milestone has been out for a while now and there should be some new models coming out soon. If I were you I would wait for a new qwerty android phone to be released.

I would also wait. The droid does sound like the perfect phone for you, but the thing is, all the stuff you really look forward to doing kills your battery. I have a rooted droid clocked at 1ghz. Battery life really isn't that great, but overall i sincerely love the phone.

I would wait, too...I have the Milestone, is a really great phone (as you said, big screen+QWERTY is just perfect) but buying it now is pointless, in my opinion. I would suggest to wait for new devices similar to the Milestone to come out and then make a choose.
And the camera isn't that great, really.

Thanks everyone
.. is there any great phones (or leaks) with QWERTYs in the next few weeks which are non-Motorola ? i mean is there any leaks ? (other than that ugly HTC Vision) ?
damn i wish we had a GSM version of HTC Incredible .. it's a perfect phone (only missing a keyboard though)

somebody told me girlfriends are like mobile phones, you only wish for a new and better one, as to what you have.
so there's nothing new about your dilemma.i'd suggest you go for it, because new would come but then it's price will delay or postpone you a prized possession. secondly, nowadays a mobile phone is more worthy if it it's most popular in hacking community, like Xperia X1, in my sane mind i'd never suggest this phone to anyone, but imagine ubuntu and android along with Winmo, the phone is a must have. And my dearest SE P1i.
Go for it, you'd never regret a moment of it am already looking for Xperia X1 and Milestone (second or even third hand).

yeah , your right .. but the thing is .. back in 2008 (when i only knew dumbphones and smartphones prices were a blast) i bought my beloved and now stolen SE w595 .. just a couple a days later , Here Comes SE w902 & samsung i8510 .. a better camera + bigger screen .. stuff
Honestly i felt like my new w595 was turned into bull****! i dont want that to happen next if i buy a milestone
but when i think about it .. it was out for a year .. is there really something new coming ? all the good damn phones comes to the US (droid incredible , samsung epic 4G) while leaving us lay in the dust
everytime i try to convinve myself to buy the milestone by saying (i'm just a teenager .. why would i need a 1GHz CPU and stuff like that ?) but honestly i just can't help it .. for god's sake the galaxy spica is faster than that !
beside that locked bootloader .. when i thought about it for like 2 minutes i say what's the joy having an android when you can't root it/install ROMs ? because back in the days when i had the w595 i used to change themes & flash menus like a maniac !
i've decided to wait for a non-Motorola device , i've taken myself a hour to think about it .. that's my decision .. Thanks everyone !

I literally just picked up the Milestone on Telus two days ago, and don't regret it. It's pretty sweet, and I don't see the Droid X or the Incredible coming (I assume you're in Canada, as you're looking at the Milestone..) any time soon up here.
With the customization and rooting available, it's a pretty sweet phone.
Just me though. Good luck with picking a phone.

The driod 2 is released any day now but I wonder how long we have to wait for a milestone 2
Edit: I bought my Milestone 2 weeks ago. And I love it.

it will outdated in term of operating system, currently we only get android 2.1 which everybody already has 2.2
and next time 3.0 released we can only bite our nail ^^

it will be soon!

Hi guys, actually i've more or less pretty decided to get the milestone already due to it's nice form factor and android, also pretty much i'd like to have a qwerty keyboard for a change.
I'm currently rocking a HD2, and i don't intend to sell it yet. But was interested in android after running froyo 2.2 and sense desire build on it. So i was like pretty much wanting to get an adroid device to play with and see how it goes. No suitable options in the marketplace for nexus 1 and it's way over my budget, i reckon i can get a milestone (brand new) over here in sg for around 550 Singapore Dollars, so i thought i get it! (TODAY, LOL)
So i thought i'd pop by xda for trusted opinions and rooting possibilities, and i'm faced with little support for the milestone as compared to the crazy HD2 forum, LOL. So i'm wondering is it possible to root my milestone? And what do you guys mean by bootloader locked? And why? Pardon me as i'm pretty new to android, had a g1 in the past, but didn't play much with it and sold it, now i'm back! Haha.
I'd appreciate any links to other sites for help and more info and prolly more support than what we're getting here? If you feel uneasy to post, you could pm me. Thanks!!
Any issues i must take note of with buying milestone? Since i read some had wifi and baseband issues, D-pad down button is bad etc. LOL. And the droid's back cover is loose, not sure about the milestone though. Plus is there really a huge difference in droid and milestone when it comes to development/rooting/flashing roms etc.?
The only difference i know of currently is one's CDMA the other's GSM and the droid doesn't support multi-touch natively until the updated the software as well as the droid has got fm radio?
Oh ya, there's no wireless teethering on milestone? Meaning my laptop uses my phone's network?!
Appreciate all advice!!
Sorry for uber long posts!

gabriel.twl said:
Hi guys, actually i've more or less pretty decided to get the milestone already due to it's nice form factor and android, also pretty much i'd like to have a qwerty keyboard for a change.
I'm currently rocking a HD2, and i don't intend to sell it yet. But was interested in android after running froyo 2.2 and sense desire build on it. So i was like pretty much wanting to get an adroid device to play with and see how it goes. No suitable options in the marketplace for nexus 1 and it's way over my budget, i reckon i can get a milestone (brand new) over here in sg for around 550 Singapore Dollars, so i thought i get it! (TODAY, LOL)
So i thought i'd pop by xda for trusted opinions and rooting possibilities, and i'm faced with little support for the milestone as compared to the crazy HD2 forum, LOL. So i'm wondering is it possible to root my milestone? And what do you guys mean by bootloader locked? And why? Pardon me as i'm pretty new to android, had a g1 in the past, but didn't play much with it and sold it, now i'm back! Haha.
I'd appreciate any links to other sites for help and more info and prolly more support than what we're getting here? If you feel uneasy to post, you could pm me. Thanks!!
Any issues i must take note of with buying milestone? Since i read some had wifi and baseband issues, D-pad down button is bad etc. LOL. And the droid's back cover is loose, not sure about the milestone though. Plus is there really a huge difference in droid and milestone when it comes to development/rooting/flashing roms etc.?
The only difference i know of currently is one's CDMA the other's GSM and the droid doesn't support multi-touch natively until the updated the software as well as the droid has got fm radio?
Oh ya, there's no wireless teethering on milestone? Meaning my laptop uses my phone's network?!
Appreciate all advice!!
Sorry for uber long posts!
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Man, it's really lacking in support for milestone over here at xda, or there's nothing to support at all? LOL. For the first time, i'm a little disappointed with xda. Hahahaha, i hope people could point me in the right direction for milestone news and tips etc. Anyways, heading to get it now!!

Quick answers:
- You can root the phone, as in, have access to modify the system at root level.
- A locked bootloader means you can't use any other kernels except those signed by Motorola themselves. We're all hoping for methods like 2ndboot and kexec to help us out here
- You can tether via USB,WiFi, or Bluetooth.

i have a Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 with windows mobile.. I originally wanted the Milestone but since i could get the X1 for half the price of the Milestone i decided to get it. I am now in the process of selling the X1 and getting the Milestone (probably next week)

Lesiroth said:
Quick answers:
- You can root the phone, as in, have access to modify the system at root level.
- A locked bootloader means you can't use any other kernels except those signed by Motorola themselves. We're all hoping for methods like 2ndboot and kexec to help us out here
- You can tether via USB,WiFi, or Bluetooth.
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Thanks. I went ahead and get it anyway. Haha. I'm hoping for more support and some flashing goodness soon! Plus 2.2 froyo!! Some issues or concerns i found so far. I realised that the device gets hot pretty easily and not normal kind of heat, rather at the area below the camera at the back when holding landscape. And in gmail app, you can never empty your trash permanently. This kinda sucks, as the trash always restore.

Quick answers:
- You can root the phone, as in, have access to modify the system at root level.
- A locked bootloader means you can't use any other
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Thanks. I went ahead and get it anyway. Haha. I'm hoping for more support and some flashing goodness soon! Plus 2.2 froyo!! Some issues or concerns i found so far. I realised that the device gets hot pretty easily and not normal kind of heat, rather at the area below the camera at the back when holding landscape. And in gmail app, you can never empty your trash permanently. This kinda sucks, as the trash always restore.
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where did you get it for 550? I was at a starhub shop the other day and it wasn't even close to 550.

If you don't want to wait, there's always the Samsung Epic 4G or Galaxy S Pro, whatever it is called in your region. If you don't mind that there is no camera flash.
Sent from my Droid

thepwneddroid said:
If you don't want to wait, there's always the Samsung Epic 4G or Galaxy S Pro, whatever it is called in your region. If you don't mind that there is no camera flash.
Sent from my Droid
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Are those phones even out yet ? Would you be able to install custom ROMs for them in the future?
The milestone looks better in my opinion.. (physically) but seeing how its got a locked bootloader... im afraid of buying a phone (with so many options at this day) that could be already stuck on its final OS version.
If only the Xperia X10 had a physical keyboard (i dont like the mini pro version) id probably buy it. I want an android phone with a physical keyboard not only for texting but also for emulators and the milestone seems the way to go ... as its about $420 too. (amazon)

I'm in the same boat as some of you. A former Xperia X1 user who got tired of flashing with ROMs that aren't stable and sluggish. I don't want to get an official ATT phone cause I am on the MediaNet unlimited plan and I like to tether to my laptop. I also like having a QWERTY keyboard and been wanting to try Andriod OS. Some questions:
1) What specifics should I look for to ensure I'm getting the Telus version of DROID and unlocked for AT&T to ensure 3G?
2) I saw recent news that there is no official support for Tethering or wifi router mode on DROID, but are there apps (even the Xperia X1 did).
3) Can anyone tell from just what's listed on Overstock and Amazon whether those phones will work on ATT 3G? Many thanks.
I already sold my X1, been using my old Samsung BLackjack 2....need new phone...SOON!

I think its time for an intervention...

I've been flashing/ building/hacking roms for the last 2 weeks straight and I mean constantly, eat, sleep (rarely), program, and repeat. So me and my girlfriend (imagine that a nerd with a gf) are laying in bed and I go to hold her hand and this thought crossed my mind "if our hands don't connect right then I can't transfer my nandroid backup" I need apaa (android programming addict anonymous.

What fone u have ? Chances are if its a ****ty fone , ie < 1ghz ull never will be happy with it cuz its garbage to begin with ... cooked roms can only polish a turd ya kno ... so stop wasting ur time ull regret it

souljaboy said:
What fone u have ? Chances are if its a ****ty fone , ie < 1ghz ull never will be happy with it cuz its garbage to begin with ... cooked roms can only polish a turd ya kno ... so stop wasting ur time ull regret it
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Phones less than 1Ghz are not ****ty. Look at the Desire Z 800Mhz and faster than pretty much any other phone, and thats even w/o overclocking it.

i refuse to believe that fone is useable below atleast 1.4ghz

Hehe lol

ha its an incredible (currently 1.15ghz), im in a love hate type of thing with sense, i dont like how slow sense is and i love how smooth asop (currently cyanogen) is but asop will not load xda-developers home page. just installed a nightly build (144) last night and it will load the forum so i think im sticking with it... till i make my own build, which is kinda why ive been flashing roms

Do what i do
I only like the bottom bit of sense not the rest of it so I use a nice speedy AOSP rom then use this modded ADW launcher, with the extra themes, IMO Mochilla brown is Lush

I would but its not the launcher that gives me problems, its the actual web browser that gives me problems (browser.apk). If I could get the sense webkit On aosp, all would be well.

Hmm.... Have you tried Any other browsers you like? lol

Yeah opera works, but other than that, skyfire won't load it, dolphin bday won't load it and I've tried that Chinese one and it didn't work ether... I just like things to work hahaha

Finally got another phone. So much happier.

I finally had enough and jumped ship. I got what I originally wanted but was too impatient to wait, the Galaxy Skyrocket. I had to dish out full price (used) but it's worth it. The amount of frustration using the Thrill was far outweighing the cost of just getting a new phone. i've found that the only thing that made the Thrill bearable was by flashing CM7 but then you lose any benefit of having it to begin with (3d).
FTR, I had flashed GB O3D rom on this phone and used that for the past 3 months or so prior to finally flashing CM7 and losing the 3d.
The 3d isn't worth the disadvantages of having this phone after all and I wish I had listened to others from the beginning. Even with CM7, the phone is nowhere near as snappy and productive as the STOCK bloated rom on the Samsung Galaxy S2 phones. Prior to having the Skyrocket, I didn't quite understand what the advantage would be, if you compared specs to specs. Apparently there is something else other than hardware specs that makes one android phone simply better than the other hands down. Sorry for the rant, but I am posting this in case others who have been putting up with their Thrill have been on the fence and don't know what they're missing. I bought the Thrill 1 week prior to its release date and have been a trooper putting up with it until this week. I'm so glad to be done with it, it's now sitting in my junk drawer. Good riddance!

Not trying to be rude, but it'd be nice if useless clutter such as this was not posted.
It's completely irrelevant.

i dont know why ppl hate this phone so much i love it after rooting it and putting a custom rom on it rocks the house have no problems with missed calls or sms's np gettting a full day out of the battery now that were off froyo my buddy at work has an sg2 and my phone is just as fast as his phone.

I do not know why people are complaining about this phone either... I have put the thriller rom on it and the battery is lasting for almost 2 full days now... I still have my 3D (which if you ask me is much nicer in theory than it is in actuality.) and rarely use it... You people that are complaining about it as you are, are just too damn picky... Lighten up and enjoy the phone for what it can do. Dont just jump on the "oh i cant upgrade to GB so its shyt" bandwagon...

We're complaining because some of us (myself) ditched the iPhone for a more "open" platform that we wouldn't have to worry about hacking as much so we could do stuff that a phone should do without jailbreaking. I was always doing stuff to my iPhone to the point where it was very unstable an I just wanted to go legit. So I got an Android, now the only way to get anything out of it is to mod and hack again, which bumps you right back into that "sketchy" territory. I'm glad roms and hacks work for you but there are cons to those pro's as well. I've spent far to much time flashing KDZ's on this phone trying to get it functional. Not a single GB worked for me and I tried them all. I always had ghost calls. I've been considering the SGSII so I'm glad to hear it's as good as I think/hope it is.
Update: to further reply to your "I don't know why your complaining" comment about "being too damn picky" All I want is for my phone to last 1 day and not miss any phone calls. Oh, and not freeze in the middle of a game or app. On froyo my battery life is ****e and there is tons of freezing. On GB I miss calls and texts on a regular basis. Now tell me I'm being picky.

I don't think it's the case of being too picky, it's the quality of the phone and the company that gets people. Think about it LG knew the battery life of these phone would be shytty while testing it but they still released it.... plus to my understanding their updating progress is way to long of a wait for such a powerful phone, by the time we "may" get an ICS update jellybean will be out (I think) As for my experience with thrill my only issue was the battery life (which I took care of) other than that I love my phone and very satisfied with it
Sent from my LG-P925 using xda premium

I used one of my upgrades to get a galaxy note. Stock for stock the thrill was almost as fAst as it and scored much better on fps in graphics tests. I've oc'd the note now and the thrill doesn't come close. I could see the thrill being just as quick oc'd and tweaked. And, the thrill plays more games without having to do any tweaking. Don't get me wrong, i gave the thrill to my son and will probably never go back to the thrill only because of the screen size and lte. Though i did give the son strict orders to take care of it as i want it back when he finally upgrades.
Sent from a Galaxy far, far away!

Mad383Max said:
I used one of my upgrades to get a galaxy note. Stock for stock the thrill was almost as fAst as it and scored much better on fps in graphics tests. I've oc'd the note now and the thrill doesn't come close. I could see the thrill being just as quick oc'd and tweaked. And, the thrill plays more games without having to do any tweaking. Don't get me wrong, i gave the thrill to my son and will probably never go back to the thrill only because of the screen size and lte. Though i did give the son strict orders to take care of it as i want it back when he finally upgrades.
Sent from a Galaxy far, far away!
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I just finished putting thiaz03d 2.6 with 1158 oc kernel .4 and stripping it down to the apps that I use and man this phone is blazing fast did a antutu benchmark and scored 6538 witch is higher then a stock sg2 so I'm very happy with this phone now it just flys.

Posts like this crack me up, hence my screen name haha. I love this phone. It's got an awesome screen, super fast dual core processor and a high quality feel to the build. All the samsung phones just feel like they're made out of toy plastic. I'm also glad LG doesn't try to overwhelm us with an over-the-top Android overlay such as Sense, TouchWiz, MotoBlur, etc. I replaced the stock launcher with launcher pro as soon as I got it and it got much better battery life. LG Home is a battery sucker and a resource hog. I like the widgets they provided with it too, they're really classy and useful. For a phone with only 512 MB of RAM, I usually manage to get around 200 MB of RAM free when I'm not running anything. Try asking someone with a Captivate how much of their memory they can get free (usually about 100 MB or less), they'll be shocked when you say you can get that. I think the people who complain are too unfamiliar with the Android operating system and its customizability and were just looking for something that works without any tweaking. If you want something like that, just get an iphone. And I'm not knocking that at all, Apple only builds one phone for a reason, so they can concentrate on it and make it work flawlessly despite any perceived hardware shortcomings. But I'm glad I chose my Thrill so I can make it do what I want it to do, and it does. And nothing beat the price point this thing was at back in September.

lg_haters_make_me_lol said:
Posts like this crack me up, hence my screen name haha. I love this phone. It's got an awesome screen, super fast dual core processor and a high quality feel to the build. All the samsung phones just feel like they're made out of toy plastic. I'm also glad LG doesn't try to overwhelm us with an over-the-top Android overlay such as Sense, TouchWiz, MotoBlur, etc. I replaced the stock launcher with launcher pro as soon as I got it and it got much better battery life. LG Home is a battery sucker and a resource hog. I like the widgets they provided with it too, they're really classy and useful. For a phone with only 512 MB of RAM, I usually manage to get around 200 MB of RAM free when I'm not running anything. Try asking someone with a Captivate how much of their memory they can get free (usually about 100 MB or less), they'll be shocked when you say you can get that. I think the people who complain are too unfamiliar with the Android operating system and its customizability and were just looking for something that works without any tweaking. If you want something like that, just get an iphone. And I'm not knocking that at all, Apple only builds one phone for a reason, so they can concentrate on it and make it work flawlessly despite any perceived hardware shortcomings. But I'm glad I chose my Thrill so I can make it do what I want it to do, and it does. And nothing beat the price point this thing was at back in September.
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Hardware is nothing without good support. And LG support frankly isn't very good.

youra6 said:
Hardware is nothing without good support. And LG support frankly isn't very good.
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i havent had any problems with lg support there always straight up with me told me when were getting ics when i asked and also to the guy above you i get 200 to 250mb free when i close all my apps so i cant complain at all
i know some ppl have this ghost call thing but you ever think its your carrier and not lg ive used all the roms that claim to have gc probs and i never had any.

I eligible to upgrade and a white galaxy note is what I might get depending on how long at&fee decides to update to ics. Along with that a lag fix and price drop.

I never get more than 100 ram free unless I just stopped playing a heavy game and that's only for a few seconds before everything launches again. What in the world are you doing to get 200 free?

Are you using the stock launcher or a (better) one from the market? I use launcher pro, and it uses much less resources from what I can tell. Whenever I tried going back to LG Home, I noticed there was so much less free memory in the app manager. Actually right now I only have about 76 MB free, but that's because I let Gmail, Go SMS Pro, Opera Mobile, Pandora, and the finance app stay in there because I use them all the time. If I clear them out I'll be over 160 MB and in the green easy.

well i have thiaz03d rom 2.6 and it has lgs newest launcher then i used that post in the 03d forum to remove all the apps that im not using and froze every thing that i didnt want to delete that i dont us i pertty much striped my phone right down and install only the files for my phone and apps i use to run. o and hardly any thing runs in the back ground.

Quack
Posts like this should be deleted by the mod. It serves no useful purpose and just sounds likes a duck quacking on a pond.
The phone is what you make of it. All smartphones are. if you dont like battery life, find the culprit and eliminate it. If you dont like stock, root it. If you dont like something you have acquired because you didnt do your homework dont whine about it in a place where people are trying to make the best of what they have chosen. Keep your mouth shut and move on. Dont like the phone, go write a review on cnet.
Quack! please delete this along with the whole string

Don't defend LG till they fix the phone
Firstly everyone who doesn’t get ghost calls, are you shore? have you checked, I am only saying this since it is hard to tell, I didn’t think I wasn’t getting any until lots of people started saying that I never answer my phone, and when I started testing it guess what to my surprise I was getting them, and it’s so random that it might happen only 1 out of 20 or even 1 out of 50 but since it is random when it happens you never know, I once was testing it I called 6 times in a row and it was 6 out of 6 ghost calls, and the thing with ghost calls they don’t go to the answering machine they don’t leave missed call notifications and it’s the same with text msg's there is no trace of them at all, and for the people that are calling you they just think you are being rude by not answering or never returning their calls not to mention missing important business calls, so I know when some people say I never get them well for all you know you have and never realised it, and how can anyone defend LG's O3D/Thrill when they have such a serious issue and still haven’t fixed it, not to mention people who get the error "reorganizing internal processes" when trying to call out which I have had in the past, what if you are in an emergency and you need to call but all you get in "reorganizing internal processes" and then you have to wait for the phone to fix itself or restart it, and we all know how long the O3D/Thrill takes to start up don’t we, or you go to make a call and have no reception and have to restart the phone, or have you forgetting the main purpose of a mobile = calling and communication....

whycali said:
Posts like this should be deleted by the mod. It serves no useful purpose and just sounds likes a duck quacking on a pond.
The phone is what you make of it. All smartphones are. if you dont like battery life, find the culprit and eliminate it. If you dont like stock, root it. If you dont like something you have acquired because you didnt do your homework dont whine about it in a place where people are trying to make the best of what they have chosen. Keep your mouth shut and move on. Dont like the phone, go write a review on cnet.
Quack! please delete this along with the whole string
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Don't like these posts? Quit reading them.

On a lighter note I will buy any ones old lg thrill/o3d for parts as I have hardware bricked mine and need a new logic board/main board.

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It's not that we don't like the post.
It's that it is completely useless and serves as clutter.
This isn't a general section for ALL android phones.
It's the general section for the LG Thrill. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Understand?

[Q] am just gonna..

i am bout to buy the gnote..have been reading about rooting nd custom rom..nd want to rotate homescreen..
As far as i know ther are more cons than pros to rooting..such as bricking..
But some ppl get faulty phones with bad battery life, auto shutdown, lags..over heating..
I dont know what to do..
I do think that its a great phone nd wont require rooting..as ics is coming..nd hopefully jellybean soon after that..
I just dont kno wat to do..i want advice frm some1 who reali is a 'knowitall'
thanks..
Will remember to hit thnx button for the best replies..
Nd could u guide about why should sum1 overclock a fast processor :S

begimaad said:
i am bout to buy the gnote..have been reading about rooting nd custom rom..nd want to rotate homescreen..
As far as i know ther are more cons than pros to rooting..such as bricking..
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There's no cons to rooting whatsoever, provided the user reads and follows the rooting guide in the Dev section. It's easy and trouble-free. There's been but a single instance (Angelom's ICS kernel combined with touch-recovery) of mass bricking. That kernel is out of circulation now, so nothing to fear there.
All other 'plz help, bricked' threads are created by the people who were careless and didn't read, period.
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But some ppl get faulty phones with bad battery life, auto shutdown, lags..over heating..
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Battery life depends on what user does with their phone, IMO. If one keeps all syncing, GPS, data and whatnot on all the time, their battery will be shot on any phone.
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Nd could u guide about why should sum1 overclock a fast processor :S
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No reason I can think of apart from bragging about benchmark results.

wow duude!
Cheers like, your reply was just great!
Yeh! I just stick to Dr. Ketans guide to rootin as tis easy to understand and great. Others have so much updates and editin it becomes hard to keep track as my net provider is messed up... i get only 5-6 kbps
Should i actually get a custom rom, or its no use as the stock rom and ics is coming up.
Is gnote actually worth it or should i get some other phone ( N.B. i am getting the phone imported and i wont have warranty applicable after shipping it out of europe... and the sending faulty phones back from here is risky as it hardly makes it through due to customs.

I also had some hard time thinking about buying SGN. Now I have it for 2 weeks running on stock ROM (I don't have time now for rooting $ stuff...) and I don't have any problem at all.
My advise - Go For It!

begimaad said:
Cheers like, your reply was just great!
Yeh! I just stick to Dr. Ketans guide to rootin as tis easy to understand and great. Others have so much updates and editin it becomes hard to keep track as my net provider is messed up... i get only 5-6 kbps
Should i actually get a custom rom, or its no use as the stock rom and ics is coming up.
Is gnote actually worth it or should i get some other phone ( N.B. i am getting the phone imported and i wont have warranty applicable after shipping it out of europe... and the sending faulty phones back from here is risky as it hardly makes it through due to customs.
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If you follow the exact method described in the Dr. Ketans guide thread there's no risk of bricking.
At present you cannot find a power house like this in the market... Even you can make this device much more powerful upto 1.7 ghz speed... Nothing can beat this at the moment (as per my knowledge) So if you want power house like this, there's no other option than buying this beast. Definitely it worth it.
Regarding custom rom... Its good but if you wanna feel like this device is made exactly for you.. Go for a custom rom.. Its lots of fun and excitement.. You can make this to work which ever way up want..
Buy it.. And make others envy..

One thing I will say, get a case for it straight away. The placement of the power/volume buttons make it a hard phone to use "naked". I got a rubber bumper case and used box cutters to take out the notches where the buttons are, to make them recessed to allow me to hold the phone how I prefer. Makes the whole experience much more comfy especially for gaming.
P.S. Overclocking reduces the lifespan of any device. You're trading lifespan for speed. If anything I would underclock it to give it better thermal control.

Guys did you know what is the best retail price to buy a GNote and the site

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okay here is my idea... im the type of guy that wants the best of both worlds.. maybe im asking for 2 much.. but how hard would it be to put some of ics's features ie. the notifications bar and task manager and launcher in stock gb with out all the bloatware and still be able to have complete functionality with phone.. camera video bluetooth wifi ect... im a noob to all this sooo there may be something along the lines already made or in the works.. but hey i had to ask... id be whilling to help out anyway i can.. id like to learn and i think it would be a good opurtunity...

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okay here is my idea... im the type of guy that wants the best of both worlds.. maybe im asking for 2 much.. but how hard would it be to put some of ics's features ie. the notifications bar and task manager and launcher in stock gb with out all the bloatware and still be able to have complete functionality with phone.. camera video bluetooth wifi ect... im a noob to all this sooo there may be something along the lines already made or in the works.. but hey i had to ask... id be whilling to help out anyway i can.. id like to learn and i think it would be a good opurtunity...
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Holo launcher has alot of what you're asking. We can't exactly make a hybrid of GB and ICS because..... well just cause you need a base OS. Either ICS or GB. And ICS has alot of features that just wouldn't work for GB base because of GB limitations and kernel limitations. Hashcode has implemented his own kernel which he is working tirelessly on for SEVERAL devices, although the D3 is the only one with 512MB of RAM, which makes it even harder to do this. Despite all this, the only thing really not working on Hash's CM9/10 is the camera, which he is also working on.

pennyheroxiix said:
okay here is my idea... im the type of guy that wants the best of both worlds.. maybe im asking for 2 much.. but how hard would it be to put some of ics's features ie. the notifications bar and task manager and launcher in stock gb with out all the bloatware and still be able to have complete functionality with phone.. camera video bluetooth wifi ect... im a noob to all this sooo there may be something along the lines already made or in the works.. but hey i had to ask... id be whilling to help out anyway i can.. id like to learn and i think it would be a good opurtunity...
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thanks for the info... heres what i dont get.. hash seems like the man.. ive used his stufff and im impressed with it.. but why is it that there are roms that have the cam working (darkness Rises) and roms that dont. please hash this is not an attack on you or trying to put you down cus i have alot of respect for you and your work... and anything that u say is golden to me.. but i just dont get why he hasnt gotten the cam working and butter has.. again im new to this so im sure there is stuff that im not seeing or i dont know.. but i want to learn..

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thanks for the info... heres what i dont get.. hash seems like the man.. ive used his stufff and im impressed with it.. but why is it that there are roms that have the cam working (darkness Rises) and roms that dont. please hash this is not an attack on you or trying to put you down cus i have alot of respect for you and your work... and anything that u say is golden to me.. but i just dont get why he hasnt gotten the cam working and butter has.. again im new to this so im sure there is stuff that im not seeing or i dont know.. but i want to learn..
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Hash made two versions of ICS/JB, one that was running ICS using the GB kernel, where rapmv78, another XDA user made a workaround hack that made the camera work partially, not fully (ie. no video function). Those ROMs that were running ICS on the GB kernel, were slightly broken otherwise. Meaning sluggish, broken features and the likes, compared to the now 3.0 kernel that Hash has implemented. Those ROMs that have the camera working are based on the CM9 ROMs with GB kernels. These new CM10 roms that Hash has are running the 3.0 kernel. Hash is working on getting the OS to work smoothly and efficiently first, and camera later.

ahh i see now.. makes sence.. see this is my first venture into android world.. been locked up and what not.. so tho ive read bout them still alot different then using them... but glad to see hes working on it.. i the thing is i really dont care for a vid camera.. i mean it would be nice but not nessassary... as of now my phone is bricked..waiting on a battery charger and new battery to come in.. then ill be up and running again.. i was using darkness rises as a daikly driver and only went to stock wen i needed bluetooth which isnt alot.. the only problem that i found with darkness was that the launcher would crash when u swiped all the way to the left or right.. simple fix just install a new launcher.. i used apex.. but i will try the one you suggested.. cus i like the swipe away features of ics and the task manager... i almost bought a new phone when i bricked mine but i decided against it cus i really dont like the other choices i could afford.. and id rather stick with motorolla cus i like there interface.. my friend has a htc sensation and tho its nice.. i feel the droid is better.. i mean he has 4g and ics stock.. but other then that i have hd a better cam and my phone is faster then his.. and i really dont need 4 g cus im always on wifi.. tho my next phone will have it.. just trying to decide for my next phone if i want a keyboard or not... cus i really dont use mine all that often cus the lights are out on it.. so its kinda hard to type in the dark or w.e but thats minor.. but my upgrade is a lil ways away so im just gonna keep mine.. tho i was debating on buying a new droid 3 cus mine is a lil battle scared... crack in the top right left corner.. thankfully it missed the front camera.. and the keyboard not lighting up..