Notifications from touchdown and UK update - Samsung Galaxy Gear

The UK update truly improves the overall notification experience but I still only get subject onlyof emails from touchdown plus multiple emails are grouped together. Sony w2 at least can provide body of email as well. Any way to improve gear to provide body of emails?
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mhonard said:
The UK update truly improves the overall notification experience but I still only get subject onlyof emails from touchdown plus multiple emails are grouped together. Sony w2 at least can provide body of email as well. Any way to improve gear to provide body of emails?
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It's not MK7 that broke receiving body text via Exchange, it's GM 1.5 which you must use with MK7. Interesting it affects TD. So far complaints have been with Samsung's Exchange client. TD is big in B2B and probably is as rigid as Samsung's client in EAS security enforcement. Some people are using the AOSP Exchange client while others are waiting/hoping that the next version of GM fixes the issue. If you're rooted you can change your build.prop to a non-U.S. CSC but both rooting and altering your CSC could have side affects for DRM and connecting to secure networks. BTW, the code in GM that blocks body text only does so when the Gear is connected to a device with a U.S. CSC. MK7/1.5 worked fine on my LATAM N10.1-14 when I tested it.

I forgot to mention my last post that once you get the gear manager and the gear on MK7, you do have to replace the stock email app and load a newer one to get the full notifications back.
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google googleemail.apk and the second result is androidpolice with the links.
using GS4, and neither is rooted.
Or google for com.google.android.email-6.0-920375.apk and com.google.android.exchange-6.0-920375.apk to get versions newer than on androidpolice. Installed both on non-rooted Note 3.
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highlordkram said:
you do have to replace the stock email app and load a newer one to get the full notifications back.
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The fact that TD is broken too most likely means the alternate mail clients that do work don't support EAS or some other types of client control used in managed Exchange environments. TD, Good, and the Samsung client are the only one's I've ever been permitted to use across companies I've connected to. The solution is for Samsung to get their act together or explain why they've done what they've done.

BarryH_GEG said:
............. BTW, the code in GM that blocks body text only does so when the Gear is connected to a device with a U.S. CSC. MK7/1.5 worked fine on my LATAM N10.1-14 when I tested it.
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I can't root else IT will cut me off. But if I understand you correctly if I load the LATAM N10.1-14 firmware and reinstalled email client it might work?
Otherwise I probably can't wait for Samsung to fix and will return my gear. I need the body of my emails. I'll have no choice for now but to go the Sony SW2. The best of two evils when used with smart watch augmented Pro.

mhonard said:
I can't root else IT will cut me off. But if I understand you correctly if I load the LATAM N10.1-14 firmware and reinstalled email client it might work?
Otherwise I probably can't wait for Samsung to fix and will return my gear. I need the body of my emails. I'll have no choice for now but to go the Sony SW2. The best of two evils when used with smart watch augmented Pro.
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I'm in the same boat you are - I can't root or my phone and tablet are toast connecting to some of the networks I do. I only mentioned my Note 10.1 as an example to demonstrate it's not the Gear itself and whatever Samsung did to GM only applies to U.S. devices. Our only choice (in the U.S.) is to hope the next version of GM and whatever follows MK7 in the U.S. for the Gear restores what we lost. You might ask your IT group if they'll let you use Google's AOSP Exchange client which (I don't believe) requires root but if they're smart enough to banish rooted devices they'll most likely be smart enough to know which Android Exchange clients are most secure.

BarryH_GEG said:
It's not MK7 that broke receiving body text via Exchange, it's GM 1.5 which you must use with MK7.......
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So before I give up my Gear anyway to go back a version of GM, reflash watch firmware (other than MK7) and get full email header and body notifications with touchdown?

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FROYO and Exchange security not really there yet

Hello,
i am running Froyo on my nexus one.
When configuring a new Exchange support, i get:
""SETUP COULD NOT FINISH.
This server requires security features your phone does not support""
Touchdown is working fine and reports the following securities features:
Allow simple password
Password/PIN required
Failed attempts 10
Min length 5
Min Complex 3
Timeout 1800 sec.
Password recovery
So the question are:
1) Which of this securities is not yet implemented natively in froyo?
2) Will it make it in the final froyo release?
If any of you has some inputs, it would be nice to share.
Thanks in advance!
Best
dico
Sorry I cannot help with your problem other than to say that I have exactly the same issue. I am really shocked that Google have not got this fully working. We are hardly talking about a new protocol here!
Whilst I have Touchdown and have done since moving to Android last year, this single problem has stopped my company giving everyone Android phones. Come on Google, get it sorted!
Maybe because the foryo we got is not final? Ever thought of a unfinisched product that you use, is not finisched?
jaapschaap said:
Maybe because the foryo we got is not final? Ever thought of a unfinisched product that you use, is not finisched?
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I think the point is that proper exchange support should really have been there from day one.
You just don't build a serious, high end smart phone with out proper integration to corporate mail (read exchange ).
Unless you're Google apparently.
badomen said:
I think the point is that proper exchange support should really have been there from day one.
You just don't build a serious, high end smart phone with out proper integration to corporate mail (read exchange ).
Unless you're Google apparently.
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Well, I work and live in the corporate world and use my phone as such a device. I guess I sort of agree with you there about the exchange support, I can't really legitimize why they didn't incorporate this almost-brainless sync method.
Does the security policy of your works exchange server require to have a screen lock pin, specifically mobile device security policies? I noticed, after wiping from Froyo(with screen lock pin prior to EX acct) to CM and then back to Froyo(no screen lock when configuring), that I received an error that setup could not finish, I assume this is because without having a screen lock policy set up on the phone the exchange server will not authenticate to my device. Check that out. Also, this is not a finalized product.
Mine works fine...and I manage the Exchange system here...no problems.
My biggest issue is that Google has provided half-ass support for Exchange, and this version is no different.
You can't even move an item to another folder from the inbox with the stock Froyo.
The Desire Rom has the functionality and ability, best interface and options compared to the stock Android.
The stock Rom sucks honestly...if it weren't for Desire...I would still have my iPhone, even they figured out, licensed and got working properly the Exchange support 18 months ago. Windows mobile devices have had this for 3-4yrs.
My first post! May as well make it contributory.
It is interested to note that one may need a PIN lock set up first *before* adding an exchange account that requires one... I know I haven't been able to get our 2.2 Nexus One's to connect to our corporate Exchange Server for my girlfriend and I.
Let me go change to a PIN lock and see what happens when I try to add the exchange account...
Yep, no go still. "Unable to open connection to server."
They really need to add a Verbose button to these error messages.
still not working
Hello,
I tried setting up a PIN code before starting up the email application.
Does someone knows where to find the email app log file to see what is not good?
Thanks in advance!
best
CJ
To be honest, I tried using touchdown (which as great as it is, still lacks a lot of features), then tried using the Froyo Email/Calendar apps... Nothing has ever worked smoothly with Exchange + Android. I ended up migrating my email server (luckly it is only a personal email server) to Google Apps, and I have never been so happy with the performance and stability.
It is a tough cookie to swallow, but gmail is much better then Exchange on Android...

[Q] Captivate phone for IT

I'm in IT and plan on most likely getting a Captivate from work for my job. I will be using VPN to connect to my work network (ipsec) and then using a remote desktop app to support people remotly when I am not in front of a computer. (No WiFi at work)
I currently have an iPhone 4 as a personal phone, and I know that I can use the logmein app to connect to computers and use the phone at the same time. I'm assuming I can do this on the captivate also. I was hoping to get the fascinate for the flash, and the fact that Verizon works much better at one of my remote offices, but the fascinate will not be able to do voice + data at the same time right? Also from what I read it has less RAM available.
Does anyone else work in IT and use this phone? What are your experiences with it as far as helping you on the job?
1) ass-u-me : but, in this case, you're correct https://secure.logmein.com/welcome/...oid&campaign=us&destination=/welcome/android/
2) It is likely that the VZW will not be able to do both transmissions at once, based on network type, but since I don't have VZ, or access to a fascinate.. ICSFS
3) Does Verizon really work that much better (actual experience) or is it just what the bars on the phone say... don't trust the bar display as an accurate detail.
fastblack said:
I'm in IT and plan on most likely getting a Captivate from work for my job. I will be using VPN to connect to my work network (ipsec) and then using a remote desktop app to support people remotly when I am not in front of a computer. (No WiFi at work)
I currently have an iPhone 4 as a personal phone, and I know that I can use the logmein app to connect to computers and use the phone at the same time. I'm assuming I can do this on the captivate also. I was hoping to get the fascinate for the flash, and the fact that Verizon works much better at one of my remote offices, but the fascinate will not be able to do voice + data at the same time right? Also from what I read it has less RAM available.
Does anyone else work in IT and use this phone? What are your experiences with it as far as helping you on the job?
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I can give you some incite in the IT category. I maintain multiple networks with the company I work for, and there are a handful of apps on the market place that act as an RDP connection for logging on to servers and whatnot with a FQDN (Which I'm sure would work with the IP, but haven't personally tried it). Of course, if you use listen/forward on certain ports, you can get into those as well. My company uses a program that utilizes an instance of VNC to manage the workstations. I haven't had the time to sit down and try to crack that one yet, but I'm sure it could be done somehow. Our company just made the switch over to Google Apps hosted email so I've never used Exchange with it, but I've heard it works just fine.
I'm thinking here........
Ah yes, we all use Outlook. Calendar invitations import right into Google calendar perfectly. Contacts/email can be synced using Samsung Kies, but only with the default TouchWiz launcher, which I do not prefer. Dropbox works perfectly, yay!
Off the top of my head that's all I can think of. If you have any questions regarding certain areas, please let me know, and I'll give you as much info as I have.
* Oh, and I can confirm, Verizon does not support Voice+Data at the same time. My buddy has a DROID X and he can't even get an email while on a call, much less have an RDP session going.
Here's my IT experience. I personally think the stock email has issues. Everything works fine except for 2 things:
1. Emails are not instant. I thought I had a bad phone, swapped it, and no improvement. With any other phone I had previously owned (iPhone 3g, HTC Fuze, Blackjack II), emails would always arrive at the same time or even before Outlook would get them. Now I get anywhere from 30 seconds to 10 minute delay.
2. No NTLM support. Even with an iPhone I can connect to local wireless using Safari and use my domain authentication to access our intranet. I have yet to find a way to negotiate windows authentication on this android. I hear that mozilla is putting out a mobile browser (Fennec I believe) that may support it. Or hopefully 2.2 will add this functionality.
There are clients for RDP and even a couple for VNC. I installed one for VNC but never used it. I used WYSE RDP and love it.
Other than those 2 issues,i love it. I haven't tried setting up the VPN yet (pointless to me without NTLM), but that's all I'm missing.
I wish I had a tab or phone that I could install something like an admin tool pack on that would give me Active Directory tools on the go (besides the obvious RDP to a server). Maybe I'll have to wait for a windows phone 7 tablet........unless someone knows something I don't, I'd loved to hear some good news.
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I am in IT as well and find this to be leaps and bounds better when coming from blackberry 9700
I use remote rdp and logmein ignition. I have direct push with exchange 2007 and the Gal is supported.
One complaint i have is with the email client. If you have rules setup to automatically sort mail without it being read, gl finding it on the phone. I had to turn all rules off and have everything delivered to the inbox.
Other then that i can pretty much do everything i think except dell drac console. But i hardly ever need to use those and if i did, i got bigger problems and should whip out the laptop.
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I'll second what was said here, as a server admin, my phone is indispensable. I use VNC and RDP all the time, leave my home computer signed into VPN(it's a work provided laptop that has port 3389 forwarded) and just RDP into that, and then use it on my work domain. Or use the mobile AP functionality with a netbook running 7 Enterprise w/ VPN. No worrying about hotspot locations.
Exchange works great for me on it, no issues with active sync on E2k7. I do kind of wish we had an OCS 2007 R2 compliant messaging app for it. That's about all I could really use that isn't already available.
swedishcancerboi said:
1. Emails are not instant. I thought I had a bad phone, swapped it, and no improvement. With any other phone I had previously owned (iPhone 3g, HTC Fuze, Blackjack II), emails would always arrive at the same time or even before Outlook would get them. Now I get anywhere from 30 seconds to 10 minute delay.
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For me, ActiveSync to the Captivate is as fast as my BlackBerry 9700 using BES which is pretty darn fast! Now if only the email client worked with all my sub-folders and allowed me to move emails, etc., I'd be happy.
Search for issues with IMAP and Exchange accounts on the ANDROID platform. I've personally had my IMAP and Exchange email accounts disappear from my phone completely, 3 times in the last month.
This is a know issue across all the Android phones and a problem that is still present in Froyo, kinda disappointing that Google can't get their act together and fix this MAJOR issue.....
There are great email replacement apps out there that solve the problem. The best replacement in my opinion at least is K9. I wouldn't use the version in the Market as it's a few versions old but the latest releases can be found on the googlecode page.
Replacement Apps???
I never needed a replacement app on my BlackBerry or Iphone so I could receive email? That to me is just plain absurd and unacceptable.
Josh K. said:
Replacement Apps???
I never needed a replacement app on my BlackBerry or Iphone so I could receive email? That to me is just plain absurd and unacceptable.
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Android is in its infancy. How many version of windows mobile where there before you got activesync direct push access? Did you have exchange support on the original iphone?
Clearly anyone with a brain can see that the android platform is the most open platform today and compared to all others is more like an actual computer then just a phone.
I came from a blackberry and I hate to admit that I was a fanboy for the last 5 years or so... But after going android, the blackberry is the biggest pos and I give RIM 2 years before they become PALM.
The fact that you can run a 3rd party app that can handle your email, your phone or your sms functionality is amazing. However hard developers try to make a one size fits all... it may work for majority, but not all.
I have had zero issue with android and exchange activesync. My accounts don't disappear. Maybe you should take a look at your environment and see what is going on behind the scenes on your mail server or probably at your crappy anti-spam filter. I got emails instantly on my captivate before i get them on my computer, just like my blackberry did.
Yeah, must be my filters causing the account settings to be wiped from my phone on multiple accounts instantaneously....
Come on dude?
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=4866
Kinda hard to make progress on a platform when your preventing the corporate world from adopting due to serious issues with non Gmail accounts?
I'm a Sr. Sys admin and my experience using the captivate on the job has been great. By connecting to our wpa2 enterprise I've SSH'd into routers and switches using Better Terminal (BTEP SSH Client). It's great not having to drag a laptop and a rollover cable into a server room while working with a switch. I've used the WYSE's beta client which supports RDP, VNC and VM View. I'm also a big fan of Astro file manager which has an add-on for connecting to SMB shares. We've also setup a Rove Mobile Admin server. it's an SSL encrypted publicly accessible server which utilizes an android app from which i can manage everything from BES, to SQL, to Exchange, to AD. Its an expensive license but very very well worth it. and while i do think the stock active sync client is usable i've found that TouchDown offers a much more advanced product complete with meeting invites and GAL support. Again, this is a great phone for for IT work!
Hmmm, I just wonder what is different about the heartbeat to Exchange with Android than it is with every other phone. I agree it could be some mysterious setting that needs adjusted on Exchange, but I'll probably worry about it after we upgrade from 03 to 07.
Doesn't matter......phone rocks.
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i am a sytems and network admin, droid x with and touchdown and logmein has never failed me. wifi teathering with a laptop is great too.
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Making People think Note is secure!

The company where i work does not let me sync my note to the office outlook server quoting security issues. When i asked them y, this was their reply "As for Galaxy Note, unfortunately that device does not have all the basic security requirements we would want. The most important of them is that the device does not allow a remote wipe on the device or on the SD card.
Therefore, we are unable to let it connect to our infrastructure.
. I know we have remote admin in all Samsung phones and can use it from Samsung Dive site. Is this feature different from the ones available in Iphones (my office allows iphones and BB to sync )
ravi_buz said:
The company where i work does not let me sync my note to the office outlook server quoting security issues. When i asked them y, this was their reply "As for Galaxy Note, unfortunately that device does not have all the basic security requirements we would want. The most important of them is that the device does not allow a remote wipe on the device or on the SD card.
Therefore, we are unable to let it connect to our infrastructure.
. I know we have remote admin in all Samsung phones and can use it from Samsung Dive site. Is this feature different from the ones available in Iphones (my office allows iphones and BB to sync )
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Tell your IT guys to get the Good application supported from the market. The ratings of it are bad in market but it works anyways. My company uses it for Android devices which are stock (non rooted). Good app allows the office data to be remote wiped and can even wipe the whole device in case it is lost.
Hope this helps!
I think Samsung Dive provides everything you could want. Alternatively install an antivirus on it - such as Lookout. The premium version will also provide full wipe and disable features.
Do your IT staff know much about Android phones?
This being an mnc they compare the phones to the us version and deny support saying that it sites not meet the required security features. This is so irritating, they won't even let us sync the mail.
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If they are using Exchange server it will remote an device that connects to it. I don't know about lotus note/domino server tho. Do you know which mail server your work has?
your it dept are twits...they really need to educate themselves better...
kawgirlval69 said:
your it dept are twits...they really need to educate themselves better...
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As a corporate email admin i totally agree!!
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+1 to all the above...
If they're looking for some noted security, Norton mobile (although not the highest signature detection) has full remote wiping services.
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We also use the Good for enterprise application here on Android and iOS devices (around 300 of them). It works pretty well.
Android will also sync to an Exchange server via Activesync which should be an encrypted connection, and data can be remote-wiped either by an admin or by the user via OWA. They can also enforce a lock key via a certificate installation.
They are either lazy, incompetent or both. Although, Blackberries _are_ more secure than either an Android or iOS device as the Exchange support is ingrained in the OS rather than as a separate layer.
Get Touchdown from the Market. It respects the Exchange security policies in app, which is really all the Exchange admins need worry about. Upside is that if a wipe command is sent, only Touchdown gets nuked, not your whole phone.
Why the Exchange admins should care about the whole phone is beyond me. Worry about a bad guy running around with corporate data on the device.
None of them think. When i send them the details on how android is also safe they simply forward it to another person. So frustrating.
where do u work if u dont mind telling me. Because im working as Blackberry Support for few company.

[Challenge] Why is "because X phone won't work with Gear Manager" acceptable?

[Challenge] Why is "because X phone won't work with Gear Manager" acceptable?
I find this hard to believe and a slightly lazy answer to a common problem. There is obviously code in the APK that refuses to work on any non-Samsung device. Dozens of threads exist with people offering up the entire Gear APK catalog, some trying to get it to work on Nexus & and others.
fOmey and others have reverse engineered the entire ROM, but no one has figured out a way to "fix" one single app to allow it to work with all phones?
Is this not a work-in-progress somewhere? It's certainly not in any thread I have found.
What are the limitations to such a venture? Has it been tried? Is there a copyright issue? What reason has this not been attempted?
Our community has done some amazing things over the years and this site is the go-to place for rooting and hacking. There has to be one sole out there willing to give this a shot.
I am, by no means, a programmer or coder. I would take this up, but I do not have the skillset. Best I can do is go through XML files and the like hoping to find "if X=Z then A" and remove it.
Ultimately this would give us the missing companion to null_ that allows notifications and interactivity (i.e. Music player controls, etc)
So-- any takers?
I have a Nexus 5, even with the app fully running, I can only get the phone call part to work - talk/listen/incoming caller contact name
The way to get around unsupported device is with the GearManagerStub apk
I've had a bit of a search through most of the code, and from what I can tell all the apks are included so can only conclude there must be something in tw framework. Or I missed something...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2549058
Brendo said:
even with the app fully running, I can only get the phone call part to work - talk/listen/incoming caller contact name
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This is not helped by the app. I have mine tethered to an iPhone 3gs(not by choice) and it works fine with no software at all.
styz said:
This is not helped by the app. I have mine tethered to an iPhone 3gs(not by choice) and it works fine with no software at all.
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To load the gear manager app, it is.. You simply connected your gear via bluetooth.
The gear manager app pushes notifications to the gear.
Without the GearManagerStub.apk it fails to load, its depends on this particular app.
It's pretty simple actually - and the same reason Sense doesn't run (well) on non-HTC devices. Samsung's got a huge proprietary framework on their phones that their proprietary apps expect to be in place and depend on. So plopping Gear Manager on a phone that doesn't have the expected underlying s/w causes it to fail or deliver bits and pieces of functionality. Someone could probably figure out which pieces of Samsung's framework need to be in place but if there are a ton of them adding useless bloat (outside the Gear functionality) wouldn't it be easier just to use the Gear with a Samsung phone? And the design point Samsung's chosen (dependency on proprietary Samsung code on the phone for the Gear to work) pretty much tells you that, at least for now, they are happy with restricting Gear sales to owners of Samsung devices. Hell, the SGS4 GPe doesn't even support the Gear.
Just a personal thought, at $299 (I know, it was 30% less at T-Mobile) the Gear's a questionable investment (AKA: a "play thing") as it is. Accepting that key features (of the few provided) are missing to get it to work on a non-Samsung phone seems like a great garage project but not a very good use of $299. Just my opinion of course.
BarryH_GEG said:
It's pretty simple actually - and the same reason Sense doesn't run (well) on non-HTC devices. Samsung's got a huge proprietary framework on their phones that their proprietary apps expect to be in place and depend on. So plopping Gear Manager on a phone that doesn't have the expected underlying s/w causes it to fail or deliver bits and pieces of functionality. Someone could probably figure out which pieces of Samsung's framework need to be in place but if there are a ton of them adding useless bloat (outside the Gear functionality) wouldn't it be easier just to use the Gear with a Samsung phone? And the design point Samsung's chosen (dependency on proprietary Samsung code on the phone for the Gear to work) pretty much tells you that, at least for now, they are happy with restricting Gear sales to owners of Samsung devices. Hell, the SGS4 GPe doesn't even support the Gear.
Just a personal thought, at $299 (I know, it was 30% less at T-Mobile) the Gear's a questionable investment (AKA: a "play thing") as it is. Accepting that key features (of the few provided) are missing to get it to work on a non-Samsung phone seems like a great garage project but not a very good use of $299. Just my opinion of course.
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I am purchasing home automation items and bluetooth adaptors for my vehicle so I don't think of this as a toy. I consider it a great step forward.
fOmey said:
...Without the GearManagerStub.apk it fails to load, its depends on this particular app.
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I installed the stub and the gearmanager apks and it still gave me a 'unsupported device' message. *sadface*
therealduckie said:
I am purchasing home automation items and bluetooth adaptors for my vehicle so I don't think of this as a toy. I consider it a great step forward.
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Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Why would an underpowered device with a 315mAh battery, 512MB of RAM, and a 1.63" display be the best "tool for the job" you described? Especially when it requires a host in near-by proximity for the majority of its functions? It's great what people are doing with the Gear outside the mission Samsung released it for but, like I said before, you're talking about parlor tricks more for sport than serving a function unachievable by better means; some of which are more practical. And if you're trying to use the Gear while driving, especially if you've shrunk the DPI with a launcher, good luck. It's hard enough using the basic functions and S Voice while driving without ending up in another lane. I'm not criticizing everyone's ingenuity and cleverness just pointing out how impractical some things can appear when you take in to account what the Gear really is; a shamefully low-spec, low functionality Android "phone" with a tiny screen that happens to have a wrist band.
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It's pretty simple actually - and the same reason Sense doesn't run (well) on non-HTC devices. Samsung's got a huge proprietary framework on their phones that their proprietary apps expect to be in place and depend on. So plopping Gear Manager on a phone that doesn't have the expected underlying s/w causes it to fail or deliver bits and pieces of functionality. Someone could probably figure out which pieces of Samsung's framework need to be in place but if there are a ton of them adding useless bloat (outside the Gear functionality) wouldn't it be easier just to use the Gear with a Samsung phone? And the design point Samsung's chosen (dependency on proprietary Samsung code on the phone for the Gear to work) pretty much tells you that, at least for now, they are happy with restricting Gear sales to owners of Samsung devices. Hell, the SGS4 GPe doesn't even support the Gear.
Just a personal thought, at $299 (I know, it was 30% less at T-Mobile) the Gear's a questionable investment (AKA: a "play thing") as it is. Accepting that key features (of the few provided) are missing to get it to work on a non-Samsung phone seems like a great garage project but not a very good use of $299. Just my opinion of course.
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That's why this is a challenge
Im intrigued.. I want to figure this out, I prefer to use AOSP. Iv been forced to go back to TouchWiz since owning a gear.
I might have to do some more digging around.
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I installed the stub and the gearmanager apks and it still gave me a 'unsupported device' message. *sadface*
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Depends how you do it? I moved the apk to system/app and then had to install it (so that it was in data/app as com.whatever as it looks for apk based on that name). May not need it in system app anymore
Which phone?
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fOmey said:
That's why this is a challenge
Im intrigued.. I want to figure this out, I prefer to use AOSP. Iv been forced to go back to TouchWiz since owning a gear.
I might have to do some more digging around.
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Do you know how much touchwiz is in google edition roms? Does gear fully work with ge roms?
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Depends how you do it? I moved the apk to system/app and then had to install it (so that it was in data/app as com.whatever as it looks for apk based on that name). May not need it in system app anymore
Which phone?
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Do you know how much touchwiz is in google edition roms? Does gear fully work with ge roms?
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Sadly I was able to test extensively using GE, although I did find all the initial APK's installed & completed successfully.
I didn't get a chance to pair up completely, the base keeps randomly rebooting (nothing related to the gear). This could be due a modified gearmanagerstub.apk on the GE base, I'm not entirely sure.
I could easily upload a version of the stub APK, you can give it a go on your nexus ?
EDIT: GearManagerStub.apk : From KitKat Google Edition (i9505) & (Uninstall existing GearManager.apk before testing).
BarryH_GEG said:
Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Why would an underpowered device with a 315mAh battery, 512MB of RAM, and a 1.63" display be the best "tool for the job" you described? Especially when it requires a host in near-by proximity for the majority of its functions? It's great what people are doing with the Gear outside the mission Samsung released it for but, like I said before, you're talking about parlor tricks more for sport than serving a function unachievable by better means; some of which are more practical. And if you're trying to use the Gear while driving, especially if you've shrunk the DPI with a launcher, good luck. It's hard enough using the basic functions and S Voice while driving without ending up in another lane. I'm not criticizing everyone's ingenuity and cleverness just pointing out how impractical some things can appear when you take in to account what the Gear really is; a shamefully low-spec, low functionality Android "phone" with a tiny screen that happens to have a wrist band.
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Gear, with null_, requires no host. It can also connect to bluetooth enabled devices other than a phone.
I was motivated but this: http://daisyworks.net/btgarage.html
It's brilliant and exactly what i have needed for years.
Other interesting links:
http://www.smarthome.com/android_apps.html
http://www.instructables.com/id/Home-Automation-using-Arduino-Android-Phone/
Fact is, this is not a toy when something like null_ is used. It offers a great deal more functionality in a much smaller and more portable/handy package.
Your bias against the device is obvious so it begs the question: why are you here? Just to raise your post count and stir drama in an otherwise peaceful sub-group? Or, do you own it and you are so disappointed that you refuse to see its potential?
Either way, your negativity will not sway me or change my mind. I know it has potential and I plan to use it fully. The fact that it has a wristband is a feature and a plus.
Oh, and I don't consider something that has multiple times the computing power of the original Apollo moon landings "low specs". <3
fOmey said:
To load the gear manager app, it is.. You simply connected your gear via bluetooth.
The gear manager app pushes notifications to the gear.
Without the GearManagerStub.apk it fails to load, its depends on this particular app.
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Maybe i wasn't clear in my post. I was responding to the phone call portion of the gear. Even without the software installed it still allows the phone calls to be taken and shows the contact information on the watch just like it did on the g4s with the app. All i was saying is that he commented that he was only able to get the phone portion working with the app and i was explaining that you can do that without the app.
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EDIT: GearManagerStub.apk : From KitKat Google Edition (i9505) & (Uninstall existing GearManager.apk before testing).
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Tried it. Same result. 2 gear manager apps still refuse to install - music and weather (I believe because they reply on specific apps?). Nfc setup connection still works. App still works, but no details get sent to watch. Perhaps tw framework hooks in and serves data to gearmanagerstub, then stub sends to manager, which sends to watch?
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styz said:
Maybe i wasn't clear in my post. I was responding to the phone call portion of the gear. Even without the software installed it still allows the phone calls to be taken and shows the contact information on the watch just like it did on the g4s with the app. All i was saying is that he commented that he was only able to get the phone portion working with the app and i was explaining that you can do that without the app.
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Yes, from what I understand, the Bluetooth headset part is the only 'generic' part of the watch. It receives data just like a car headset when it displays contact info etc
Just installed that STUB with both the 1.5 and 1.2 GM and both still showed me a 'device not supported" error message.
I spent about 2 hours with Samsung one night and they told me it had to do with baseband version...or that mine was a 4.1 baseband (even though I am running CM 10.2 with 4.3 OS).
Perhaps there is a lockout on older baseband versions?
This is an SG3 phone, by the way.
therealduckie said:
Just installed that STUB with both the 1.5 and 1.2 GM and both still showed me a 'device not supported" error message.
I spent about 2 hours with Samsung one night and they told me it had to do with baseband version...or that mine was a 4.1 baseband (even though I am running CM 10.2 with 4.3 OS).
Perhaps there is a lockout on older baseband versions?
This is an SG3 phone, by the way.
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How did you install? Try deleting; move to system/app; installing from system/app
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How did you install? Try deleting; move to system/app; installing from system/app
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Sorry, I should have been more clear...
I installed them both fine. It's when i try to pair the Gear that I get that message.
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Sorry, I should have been more clear...
I installed them both fine. It's when i try to pair the Gear that I get that message.
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Did you delete the touchwiz launcher off your gear ? That will cause a unsupported device error also.. learnt this the hard way !
Brendo said:
Tried it. Same result. 2 gear manager apps still refuse to install - music and weather (I believe because they reply on specific apps?). Nfc setup connection still works. App still works, but no details get sent to watch. Perhaps tw framework hooks in and serves data to gearmanagerstub, then stub sends to manager, which sends to watch?
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If you can narrow down which two of those APK's dont install, I can try figure out why.. First step on getting this working is simply identifying what exactly is not working and why.
Once we can get gearmanager running on other branded phones, I'm confident the notifications may work.. or atleast the "more notifications".
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Did you delete the touchwiz launcher off your gear ? That will cause a unsupported device error also.. learnt this the hard way !
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I'm using Nova Launcher as my launcher on my phone. TouchWiz doesn't even load on boot, that I am aware of.
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Did you delete the touchwiz launcher off your gear ? That will cause a unsupported device error also.. learnt this the hard way !
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Really? I still have tw on my gear :s
If you can narrow down which two of those APK's dont install, I can try figure out why.. First step on getting this working is simply identifying what exactly is not working and why.
Once we can get gearmanager running on other branded phones, I'm confident the notifications may work.. or atleast the "more notifications".
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I still have to install all the extra apks manually
- SAMusicProvider_signed.apk
- SAWeatherProvider_signed.apk

Accessing Notes on PC

Hi Community,
does anyone have a idea how to access my notes taken with the notes app on my PC? I have setup syncing with my Samsung account but cannot find a web application. The Win10 notes app in the MS store is not compatible with my Dell. Ideas?
Thanks much
You can in a limited way, by sharing them as PDF.
I installed s-note and enabled sharing with evernote. That way I can use my webbased or pc based evernote app to access my apps on all my computers. I went back and forth with other apps and found this to be the easiest way. I also have a surface book with which I take notes and tried onenote for a while, but came back to evernote.
Google Keep would probably be the easiest solution. DL notebuddy and set it to auto-launch keep instead of stock app. I've been very satisfied with this setup.
Fast-T said:
Hi Community,
does anyone have a idea how to access my notes taken with the notes app on my PC? I have setup syncing with my Samsung account but cannot find a web application. The Win10 notes app in the MS store is not compatible with my Dell. Ideas?
Thanks much
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Share and send to email
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Google Keep would probably be the easiest solution. DL notebuddy and set it to auto-launch keep instead of stock app. I've been very satisfied with this setup.
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I find onenote to be very good for syncing between different devices (i have a laptop, an android tablet and the note 8, not to mention guest login to various other devices), it seamlessly syncs so no need to be messing around with exporting and importing data, it's free and the PC version can OCR your scribbles too. Its free (even the desktop version which is miles better than the metro version), only downside is you need a live account.
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I find onenote to be very good for syncing between different devices (i have a laptop, an android tablet and the note 8, not to mention guest login to various other devices), it seamlessly syncs so no need to be messing around with exporting and importing data, it's free and the PC version can OCR your scribbles too. Its free (even the desktop version which is miles better than the metro version), only downside is you need a live account.
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I use OneNote for now but really like the Samsung Note app in terms of features. I often run I to situations where I accidentally touch the screen with my palm and OneNote is very sensitive to that. I end up in looking where I was noting things down. It's a distraction since I take a lot of notes during meetings. Samsung notes also let's me easily rearrange parts of my notes. I always keep action items on top so I see what still needs to be done in the notes overview screen.They expand while I add items and my notes move down along with that. It's the little things I guess.
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I use OneNote for now but really like the Samsung Note app in terms of features. I often run I to situations where I accidentally touch the screen with my palm and OneNote is very sensitive to that. I end up in looking where I was noting things down. It's a distraction since I take a lot of notes during meetings. Samsung notes also let's me easily rearrange parts of my notes. I always keep action items on top so I see what still needs to be done in the notes overview screen.They expand while I add items and my notes move down along with that. It's the little things I guess.
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I always find the palm rejection quite good, but you are right the composition and inking ability on the android version is frustrating, i just wished they would bring the android version closer in line with the desktop version (which does want your asking plus more), ultimately i end up cleaning up my notes on the PC version.
My workaround for the time being to use SideSync and access my Samsung notes via PC and a USB cable. A little cumbersome in setup but I can write directly into Samsung Notes. I just wish there would be clipboard sharing between my PC and the SideSync app.
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Google Keep usage instead of Samsung notes
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HI, I am a fan of google keep, however, it has become so unstable that it crashes on all my devices in the middle of my work, only on my tablet works better, it too crashes but less frequently. I have tried all forums, could not find the answer except for rolling back, then I have stop autoupdate for all apps :crying:
Hi anyone still looking to do this
I've just found that Samsung Notes in the Windows Store works now
Finally I'm a happy man this was driving me nuts, no idea why it took them so long to sort it
Samsung Notes on Win 10
Fast-T said:
Hi Community,
does anyone have a idea how to access my notes taken with the notes app on my PC? I have setup syncing with my Samsung account but cannot find a web application. The Win10 notes app in the MS store is not compatible with my Dell. Ideas?
Thanks much
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I have the same problem. It says Samsung notes for Win 10 and available on PC (among others). My build is much later than the minimum required - I have green ticks against all the requirements. Then it says "Not compatible with my device"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hope someone who built the thing sees this and puts it right!
Seadart said:
I have the same problem. It says Samsung notes for Win 10 and available on PC (among others). My build is much later than the minimum required - I have green ticks against all the requirements. Then it says "Not compatible with my device"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hope someone who built the thing sees this and puts it right!
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I tired a few days ago and cannot install in it on my surfacebook or surface pro 3 and even the latest surface pro
I think it might just be meant for samsung laptops ???
Edit : I just tried on my old acer and voila it installs... Holy sh*t
Edit: Oops got it wrong.. It was S note and not samsung notes... Samsung notes need Arm architecture... Most of the pc's are intel based.
Samsung Notes does not need ARM, as it works perfectly on my Notebook 9 Pro, which has Intel processor...
OnnoJ said:
Samsung Notes does not need ARM, as it works perfectly on my Notebook 9 Pro, which has Intel processor...
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I was looking at the requirement for the app in Microsoft store and for Samsung Notes it says ARM only...
S Note on the other hand needs x86 or x64
Are sure it is Samsung note and not s note?
Edit : it may be that it is a Samsung laptop... So I guess they can bypass the requirement
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