I have a persistent problem that I can't figure out how to avoid ...
Problem #1
Whenever my Galaxy Note-3 makes a connection to Gear via bluetooth, it triggers Samsung "Music" to start. However, Music crashes at that instant, with an error message, "Unfortunately, Music has stopped".
Problem #2
Media Controller on Gear works on any music app other than Samsung Music. It works on Google Play Music and PowerAmp. However, that is limited to working properly on following commands: Play/Pause, Skip forward, Skip backward. But - if I attempt to control the volume up/down, then it fails. At this point, I see that Samsung Music has restarted on Note-3 with the same error message.
Note:
I have a stock Note-3. The Gear is also stock, with latest update (MK7).
I don't use Samsung Music. I notice that I can't uninstall it, nor can I disable it. Whenever I force it to stop (Applications setting), then it reactivates at the time of either above two problem events.
HELP PLEASE !
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-> SOLVED: see page 2 below.
Can anyone confirm (unlike my experience):
1) Does Samsung "Music" work?
2) Does Gear's Media Control allow volume to be controlled up/down?
Honestly. My best advice is just to uninstall (or freeze in titanium) Samsung music player.
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le3ky said:
Honestly. My best advice is just to uninstall (or freeze in titanium) Samsung music player.
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I wish I could but I can't.
I have a stock rom and want to continue with it. As such, native apps like Music can't be uninstalled.
The Application Manager doesn't offer "disable" for this one app.
I love stock too I couldn't find the option to stop the stock music player doing anything, so that was my only option :/
Root doesn't mean custom rom. Like I said it's pretty easy to root your phone, and stay stock (like me). Root just means you have more privalidges with the file system (essentially).
It's an option if no one else can offer anything better!
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I love stock too I couldn't find the option to stop the stock music player doing anything, so that was my only option :/
Root doesn't mean custom rom. Like I said it's pretty easy to root your phone, and stay stock (like me). Root just means you have more privalidges with the file system (essentially).
It's an option if no one else can offer anything better!
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That is good news then. If I could ask you something, before I begin the root process ...
If I root my phone:
- do I have to reinstall all my apps?
- do all loose all my settings (emails accounts, etc)?
How do I root the phone?
Go to the Note 3 section on xda. They'll probably have a sticky explaining the best way
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Skeleton said:
I have a persistent problem that I can't figure out how to avoid ...
Problem #1
Whenever my Galaxy Note-3 makes a connection to Gear via bluetooth, it triggers Samsung "Music" to start. However, Music crashes at that instant, with an error message, "Unfortunately, Music has stopped".
Problem #2
Media Controller on Gear works on any music app other than Samsung Music. It works on Google Play Music and PowerAmp. However, that is limited to working properly on following commands: Play/Pause, Skip forward, Skip backward. But - if I attempt to control the volume up/down, then it fails. At this point, I see that Samsung Music has restarted on Note-3 with the same error message.
Note:
I have a stock Note-3. The Gear is also stock, with latest update (MK7).
I don't use Samsung Music. I notice that I can't uninstall it, nor can I disable it. Whenever I force it to stop (Applications setting), then it reactivates at the time of either above two problem events.
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HELP PLEASE !
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I had a similar issue with my S4. Samsung music stayed persistant in my notifications bar running in the background. It was also on my lockscreen as a widget. I was able to go into settings/app manager and Turn Off the app. I did a reboot of the phone and all is well. I have since gone back in and turned the app back on and it does not repeat the errant behavior.
It's really weird that whenever you connect your phone to the Gear it starts the Music app, mine hasn't done that ... yet. However, as far as controlling music, mine has worked perfectly fine with Google Music (or Play Music or whatever it's called now). Also, volume up and down should work, however, the first time after you connect your Gear, if you try turning up the volume on the phone, an alert will pop up saying something like "Are you sure you want to increase volume? Loud music can be damaging" (forgive my inaccuracy), you have to press OK on the phone first, then it will work fine. It's really irritating, but better than nothing.
I hope that made sense?
Thanks to all for your comments and suggestions.
What I have deduced is:
- Samsung Music consists of two modules, but the user is aware of only one. The front end is what the user interacts with; it is essentially a file manager. The back end is the audio processor. In my case, there is a disconnect between the two. I can enter the front end and see the list of song files, but I can not play any song which is because the back end is not able to be accessed.
- There is evidence of disconnect between front end and back end. In the front end, I can enter [Settings ^ Play speed]; what I should see is a sliding scale from 0.5x to 2.0x. In my case, the labels are missing when moving the slide bar, and the slide bar does not remember my change rather it remains at 10% setting. I suspect the speed setting is stored in the back end, for which the front end (in settings) can not access the variable's parameter, nor can it later update the value.
- The back end program of Music does work for me. This is proven by selecting a song file in "My Files" explorer, then choosing "Sound player" from the context menu. For me, the song file then successfully plays. I suspect the player is the back end of Music because the icon in the context menu is the same (blue triangle with green music note).
- When Gear is making a connection with Note, it asks Note for the name of default media player. This causes Note to open momentarily the Samsung Music player in silent mode. Note then closes Music as experienced by most users, but in my case Music stays open because of a bug on my system/configuration.
Why is this happening?
- Some writers elsewhere wrote about the interconnection between many Samsung apps because of their interdependence on TouchWiz. Perhaps Music is one such program. Maybe something (other app or my configuration) has triggered Music to break for me.
- At this point I am left suspecting another user app has caused Samsung Music to break between the front and back end. Note, this problem has only arisen in the past month, but in that time I have installed a few more apps and the previous apps have auto-updated themselves. So, I am now left to uninstalling them and testing their effect.
Problem SOLVED
Alas - Problem SOLVED.
It is frequently suggested that Music Player can be repaired by flushing the cache in "Music". In my case, this never solved my problem.
However, today I discovered another cache that can also contribute to the problem, and thus offer a solution.
The following worked for me ...
Step 1
- Settings ^ Application Manager
- App = "Media Storage"
- Action = "Clear data"
Step 2
- Samsung Music
- All song files are removed.
Step 3
- Scan Media
Step 4
- Samsung Music
- All song files are relisted.
- All song files now play. YEAH
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Hi All,
On the iPhone you can multitask as much as you want, then return to the music player and resume your most recent song 'now playing' in the respective position.
This also works on Android on the Samsung Galaxy Note, although I have noticed that if you leave it too long or multi-task enough it seems to forget that you were playing anything. I.e. you go into the 'music' application and there is no current song playing
Is this standard? Note I am running Galaxy note stock with Gingerbread, no root etc
I do not know how and where the built in music player stores his temporary data but I assume Android kills this temporary data when it notices the mentioned file hasn't been used in a certain amount of time or isn't needed anymore. Maybe after unplugging it from PC the file is getting erased.
I get a similar issue with the Audible Book player. Some days I get in my car, plug in the note, and it starts playing. Other days it just does nothing and the current book has been removed from the list.
I assume the data is dropped if space is needed.
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I do not know how and where the built in music player stores his temporary data but I assume Android kills this temporary data when it notices the mentioned file hasn't been used in a certain amount of time or isn't needed anymore. Maybe after unplugging it from PC the file is getting erased.
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Thank you. I really.can't see the logic behind this
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Can anyone tell me how to disable autostarting of Music app when headphones are pluged in?
Can't find anything about this in settings (both in app and mod settings).
Didn't find anything about this here (or somewhere in the internetz).
Am I the only one annoyed by this "feature"?
Music app starts because of a loose contact in the headphone jack.
Whenever you plug in your headphones the phone thinks you pressed the media button on the headset that shipped with the phone (it has a fourth contact on it's jack).
To disable this I used an App called Autostarts: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts
In this app you have to look for the event "Media button pressed" and then disable forwarding this event to music app.
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Music app starts because of a loose contact in the headphone jack.
Whenever you plug in your headphones the phone thinks you pressed the media button on the headset that shipped with the phone (it has a fourth contact on it's jack).
To disable this I used an App called Autostarts...
In this app you have to look for the event "Media button pressed" and then disable forwarding this event to music app.
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Thanks for the suggestion!
...But it sounds a bit like cracking nuts with a microscope.
What I can think of is to install an application that "steals" the event from the music app and disable autostarting from within this app. But this solution is far away from elegance also.
There should be a quick and elegant solution.
Maybe a short script that prevents forwarding of this event to music app?!...
...which, unfortunately, is beyond my abilities. :/
I don't think you can "steal" the event from a specific app.
The more media players you install the more receivers of the MediaButtonPressed event are in the list so I guess the event is a broadcast that every app can choose to receive and react to.
Autostarts' description says it can disable app components, but needs root access too - otherwise it will be in read-only mode.
So I guess if you knew exactly what the app does with root rights you should be able to reproduce it without the app.
But it's getting complicated again.
I think the easiest and also most comforable way is to somehow get this app (there's no free version unfortunately) and disable receiving of the broadcast for music apps.
Done.
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I don't think you can "steal" the event from a specific app.
The more media players you install the more receivers of the MediaButtonPressed event are in the list so I guess the event is a broadcast that every app can choose to receive and react to.
Autostarts' description says it can disable app components, but needs root access too - otherwise it will be in read-only mode.
So I guess if you knew exactly what the app does with root rights you should be able to reproduce it without the app.
But it's getting complicated again.
I think the easiest and also most comforable way is to somehow get this app (there's no free version unfortunately) and disable receiving of the broadcast for music apps.
Done.
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You were right.
I installed Winamp first. Plugging the headphones began to start Winamp. When I turned off its option to control the headset, the music app began to start.
Then I decided to freeze the music app via Titanium Backup, and voila. Problem solved. After restarting the phone even music app icon disappeared from the menu.
Not the most elegant solution, but it works.
Thanks for the useful info!
Now I just have to find a lightweight player that doesn't autostart when the headphones are plugged in or that has an option to disable autostarting. Winamp is not so good lately.
I prefer Player Pro - but yet again - this app is not free...
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I prefer Player Pro - but yet again - this app is not free...
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DeaDBeeF Player Pro... This one?
(Too many "Player Pro"s in Play Store.)
Sorry - I mean this one:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tbig.playerpro
Here's a 7 day trial version:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tbig.playerprotrial
Hi guys!
So the problem is: I use spotify, so when the phone is locked, it shows the music controls on screen. but when i click next, or pause, it opens the music app and starts playing the music that i have on my memory card, stoping spotify. How can i disable this? how can i make the controls control spotify?
I have disabled Google play music but im unable to disable music app. And has far has a know, if i disable music app (with root) the lock screen controls disapear.
this does not happen with miui 2.3
same problem here , it appears also on the s view cover music controls , when using soundcloud ,musiXmatch or Jet Audio and pausing or skipping track the music player of huawei starts playing , it's appeared after upgrading to EMUI 3
please help
mahmoud.egp said:
same problem here , it appears also on the s view cover music controls , when using soundcloud ,musiXmatch or Jet Audio and pausing or skipping track the music player of huawei starts playing , it's appeared after upgrading to EMUI 3
please help
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2 Solutions
1) If You are Rooted Then Delete Music.apk and Music.odex from /system/app folder
2) If Not Rooted Than Open Settings go to Manage apps .... at the bottom there is written default app settings click on it and then select music player and change the default
Hope it helps
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2 Solutions
1) If You are Rooted Then Delete Music.apk and Music.odex from /system/app folder
2) If Not Rooted Than Open Settings go to Manage apps .... at the bottom there is written default app settings click on it and then select music player and change the default
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thank you dear
i'm not rooted and tried to make any other music app as a default and problem not solved
I'm rooted and used Rom Toolbox (or any root app manager) to freeze the "Music" app, the only pro of doing this is that you will get the coverart of any music player you're listening to (SoundCloud, Poweramp, etc.) but the controls won't work anyway (it was discussed here).
Solution without rooting
Hi, I found a solution without the need to root your device in another forum. Since it's in German, I'll quickly translate the instructions:
In ES File Explorer go to /device/system/app
In that folder, look for the file "HwMediaCenter.apk" and touch to install it
If you get a warning not to install apps from unknown sources accept to install this app and proceed
The installation will start now and finish with an error message, which is to be expected
Restart your phone
The annoying default music player should have disappeared. The reason being that due to the unsuccessful installation attempt it got removed/deactivated.
KR
Mazze
mazzeger said:
Hi, I found a solution without the need to root your device in another forum. Since it's in German, I'll quickly translate the instructions:
In ES File Explorer go to /device/system/app
In that folder, look for the file "HwMediaCenter.apk" and touch to install it
If you get a warning not to install apps from unknown sources accept to install this app and proceed
The installation will start now and finish with an error message, which is to be expected
Restart your phone
The annoying default music player should have disappeared. The reason being that due to the unsuccessful installation attempt it got removed/deactivated.
KR
Mazze
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You did me a favor man... it was very annoying problem and using your way made me use my favorite music player (PlayerPro) and control it from the smart cover controls like the default player .. many thanks
Crap, still not working with Deezer. I even not gettin it in default apps. Any sugestions?
Hi people, I have a question which I am sure may stump you, looked thru some other threads but unable to find anything except the thread on google music id tags. Anyway the problem: Google music does not play any more since I flashed Liquid Smooth Rom v3.2 LS-KK-v3.2-2014-10-29. and GAPPS The music starts for a split second then mutes, then comes on again around 30 secs later.When viewing the volume icons in settings the music,video, games & other media is locked to mute with no way to raise it. Also when I try to unlock the phone, it mutes again when playing. The internet did not offer much help and what it did offer I have tried with turning off voice activation for google now. It plays thru Apollo now but did not this afternoon. Went into v4a settings and enabled what I think should be able to get it working even uninstalling the driver and rebooting also downloading the zip file (android forums told me about) and tried to install but super SU told me that "there was another version running with a different signature". I am running nova launcher but went back to liquid launcher to see if any different, still same problem. Drop a line if you may know how to fix it. I am thinking it is something simple but buggered if I know what it may be. I will start to move my music from google cloud back onto my SD card then move it to Apollo player.
Cheers for any help given.
Dan Albress.
My Note 8 & current 9 worked to allow Bixby to open Samsung Music (hands-free in the car) but now it just says you need Spotify to complete this action?
Why would you hobble your own APP and push Spotify? Money?
Bit short-sighted, and makes Bixby drop another couple of points in the 'is this any use' league table!!
Unless you guys know how to make it work?
Did you inadvertently make Spotify a deafult app?
No, don't have spotify downloaded at all. Don't use it.
try making a custom (bixby) quick command and instruct it to open samsung music or whatever media player you want. If anything Bixby is hardcoded to use Samsung products so it might be that somehow spotify is set as default app (maybe also check what are the defaults)
Tried that too. Interestingly I've now looked at the apps and the music player isn't listed!
When you make up a command there is a run button, this does open the player, but when you close all that and try a voice command you get the offer to download spotify otherwise it won't work.
Disappointing!