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[Q] Jumping ship from the Nexus 4

I have been hyped for this phone since I heard about it and ive been extremely tempted to get rid of my nexus 4 and grab this phone, the camera issues seem to be over exagerated from what i can see and some say that the nexus cam is bad and I thought it was okay. Any thoughts from anyone using this phone coming from the nexus 4? The main draw for me is battery life, Im lucky if I can get 15 hours of battery life total, with maybe 1-2 hours of screen on time..

If you're OK with the nexus 4 and its lack of LTE, stick with that. This camera has been frustrating me with its lack of exposure control/focus. I'd wait to see how they're going to improve the camera before ditching the N4. If had both and I think the only reason the Moto X wins is Verizon's LTE coverage.
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I never had the Nexus 4, and I'm certainly no camera junkie, but I love this phone. I came from the Galaxy Nexus, so any phone is an upgrade, really. I was happy with the gnex camera, and I'm even more happy with the Moto X camera.

Get the Moto x and never look back. My n4 is now an mp3 player. Moto x battery life is insane and the phone is much smoother than the n4.
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My main concern is battery life, what were you guys getting on the n4 vs the x?

I can double screen on time versus my nexus 4
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I'm a N4 owner and just like you, my main concern is battery life.
I haven't yet decided whether I should go for the Moto X or wait for the next Nexus and see what's coming up.
Tough decision

Im very much leaning towards getting one on sprint tomorrow if best buy is going to pricematch amazon when I go to get rid of my old iphone tomorrow. I just have one last question, does the moto x have a notification LED or is it purely done with the active notifications?

It is done through active notifications no LED
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Battery life on the Moto X is beyond good. 6 hrs screen time. A bit less if on LTE instead of wifi, but still way better than the Nexus 4

gunnyman said:
Battery life on the Moto X is beyond good. 6 hrs screen time. A bit less if on LTE instead of wifi, but still way better than the Nexus 4
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I have a N4 and my TMO Moto X is getting delivered today, I already took the plunge and so should you

gunnyman said:
Battery life on the Moto X is beyond good. 6 hrs screen time. A bit less if on LTE instead of wifi, but still way better than the Nexus 4
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I haven't been getting that at all. Yesterday I was at 13 hours on battery 2 hours of screen time with 3% left. It is almost exactly the same as my Nexus 4. I don't play games or watch videos either, pretty much just texting, hangouts, whatsapp, Reddit.

I had to go pick one up today, So far I think this thing is amazing, I love the feel of it and I actually like the vibration on it. If this battery is as good as everyone says ill be thrilled.

I'm a n4 owner thinking of going to moto x too, for the battery life and better optimization and amoled screen non pentile.

Just pulled the trigger on eBay for 495.00 with a case and protector. The moto website kept placing holds on my credit card but not putting the purchase through so I gave up on Motorola selling it to me. My n4 is going to the wife and she is a happy camper to be switching from her nexus s. Looking forward to checking out this device soon

Moto X or N5

Would you switch when N5 comes out?

winn75 said:
Would you switch when N5 comes out?
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You can ask this question about any new device that comes out. Would you upgrade from your current phone to a newer phone? And my answer is that if your current phone does everything you need it to, then there's no point in upgrading.
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If there was no point. Then no one ever would. Most phones now a days do everything one needs it's about want when upgrading
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winn75 said:
Would you switch when N5 comes out?
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N5 pros over MotoX
- colourful LED notifications
- strong dev community
- processor
Moto X pros over N5
- everything else
So unless those few things bother you, just stick with the Moto X

If the Nexus 5 releases with a larger battery option I will be all over it.
If it has the same size battery as the moto x I will not be picking it up.
This phone has me absolutely addicted to all day battery life.
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N5 probably won't be on Verizon at the $400 price point. But I would be all over it on a gsm carrier.
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I'm getting the N5 the moment it's out. That doesn't mean I'm switching though. The Moto X will likely remain my primary phone. I just like wasting my money on things I don't need.
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_MetalHead_ said:
I'm getting the N5 the moment it's out. That doesn't mean I'm switching though. The Moto X will likely remain my primary phone. I just like wasting my money on things I don't need.
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And I thought I was the only one that did that. LoL
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I was stuck between these two but this no long delay and the amazing reviews of the moto x by everyone has made me lean heavily this direction now to decide between the tmibile version or the developer lol
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DonDizzurp said:
Moto X pros over N5
- everything else
So unless those few things bother you, just stick with the Moto X
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Lol what? And the fact that by the time the Nexus 5 comes out the Moto X will be two android releases behind? Also the speculated always listening on the Nexus 5 as well the X doesn't have much over it.
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Why do you assume that's how it will be. I am willing to bet on it the X will receive 4.4 and skip 4.3

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Lol what? And the fact that by the time the Nexus 5 comes out the Moto X will be two android releases behind? Also the speculated always listening on the Nexus 5 as well the X doesn't have much over it.
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Am I the only person here who couldn't care less about what version of android the X gets updated to? The phone is perfect as is. I bought it for the features it was advertised to have, and Motorola delivered in spades. From this point on, if it never receives another update, I will still be just as happy with it.

Switching seems a bit crazy, but if I didn't already own the Moto X and wasn't majorly dissapointed with my Nexus 7, then yeah, I'd probably go for the Nexus 5, since I think it looks nice and its cheaper. Either way, I already own the Moto X and I'm very happy with it.

DonDizzurp said:
N5 pros over MotoX
- colourful LED notifications
- strong dev community
- processor
Moto X pros over N5
- everything else
So unless those few things bother you, just stick with the Moto X
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1) Moto X got rid of the LED notifications because they're using active notifications which are more helpful.
2) Yes that may be true
3) Processors aren't everything but fine.

_MetalHead_ said:
Am I the only person here who couldn't care less about what version of android the X gets updated to? The phone is perfect as is. I bought it for the features it was advertised to have, and Motorola delivered in spades. From this point on, if it never receives another update, I will still be just as happy with it.
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I agree. 4.3 was an incremental update and 4.4 barely more than that. On this device I doubt either update will really make much of a difference... Not that I don't want them, it just doesn't seem important when the phone runs spectacularly as it is. That's the same reason I don't care about the lack of development.
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Droyyd said:
1) Moto X got rid of the LED notifications because they're using active notifications which are more helpful.
2) Yes that may be true
3) Processors aren't everything but fine.
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Yes, processors aren't everything but the N5 with out a doubt has a better CPU and GPU and will have a better dev community which will lead to a better working phone. Active notifications are awesome but only if you're near your phone. If your phone is charging on a desk a couple of meters away from you and you hear it vibrate how will active notification tell you what happened?

theraffman said:
I agree. 4.3 was an incremental update and 4.4 barely more than that. On this device I doubt either update will really make much of a difference... Not that I don't want them, it just doesn't seem important when the phone runs spectacularly as it is. That's the same reason I don't care about the lack of development.
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Yep, no development doesn't bother me either. I have root and xposed framework. Don't need anything else. If ever a phone came with perfect software out of the box, it's the Moto X.

DonDizzurp said:
Yes, processors aren't everything but the N5 with out a doubt has a better CPU and GPU and will have a better dev community which will lead to a better working phone. Active notifications are awesome but only if you're near your phone. If your phone is charging on a desk a couple of meters away from you and you hear it vibrate how will active notification tell you what happened?
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It still flashes on screen every few seconds if you have a new text, email, missed call, etc. The only time this feature auto shuts off to my knowledge is at night (configurable) and when the phone is in your pocket or face down.
Besides all that, I'm sure the N5 will be a great phone with great support, however the chances of it coming to Verizon are slim to none so its not even an option for a lot of us.

Jexx11 said:
It still flashes on screen every few seconds if you have a new text, email, missed call, etc. The only time this feature auto shuts off to my knowledge is at night (configurable) and when the phone is in your pocket or face down.
Besides all that, I'm sure the N5 will be a great phone with great support, however the chances of it coming to Verizon are slim to none so its not even an option for a lot of us.
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You wont be able to tell what it is. With an RGB LED you can set different colours to represent different types of notifications.
Anyway, I keep hearing everyone say Verizon has terrible phone options. What's so special about Verizon that you guys stay (I'm from Canada)?

Verizon has the best signal, but has a soviet union business model and is expensive. However it works everywhere. Only reason I stay is cause I use my phone for business. My bonus is sticking 20+ gigs to them every month

[Q] Thinking about getting Moto X

I currently have a Nexus 5 and compared to a friends Moto X my screen isn't nearly as nice and the speaker is horrendous. I'm thinking about reactivating my Verizon unlimited data account and using a developer edition Moto X on it but I have some questions.
1. Who updates the Dev. Edition Moto X, Verizon or Motorola?
2. Will my Google Wallet app work like it does now with my Nexus 5 and allow NFC purchases at "Tap to Pay" stores or does verizon block that even on dev phones?
3. A bit off forum but if I use Google Voice texting, can I delete my $30 texting package on Verizon? I heard GV texting uses data only.
Thanks guys n gals!

1. Verizon
2. Yes, works on non-dev phones too
3. Sure, why not?

If you don't install custom roms, don't mind the slightly lower quality camera, and willing to sacrifice some performance especially in 3D gaming, then the Moto X may work for you. I think if you get the Moto X be intended to use stock firmware because it isn't as flexible as Nexus. The Moto X will have better battery life than the Nexus, I usually get 5 hours screen on time.
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While I continue to say that my, wife's now, Moto x is the superior phone overall....especially for those that just want a great working phone....and aren't flashaholics......I must say, I was fearful of the battery life drop switching to the N5....but after some usual tweaking.....I'm allllllmost matching my Moto x battery times. 26 hour average with 6 hour screen time. I was surprised for sure after things I read.
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I traded my N5 for a Moto X.
I like the AMOLED of the X more, the speaker and even the vibration. Touchless controls is nice, but the real killer feature is ActiveNotificatons. It's more than fast enough.
I recommend a trade

nhizzat said:
1. Verizon
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Sorry that killed it right there. Thanks for the replies!

ohiojosh78 said:
Sorry that killed it right there. Thanks for the replies!
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Actually Verizon was quick to release the 4.4.2 update right after T-Mobile so that was quick. On the other hand we on at&t are still waiting on the 4.4.2 update with some people that got invites for soak tests but yet to receive them yet.
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Nexus 5 - 17 hours talk time!

I read a recent article that made claims that our beloved N5's should be able to allow us to chit chat for yogi up to 17 hours!
Anyone ever got over 5-6?
Where do they get these specs? Is there an updated uranium battery i'm not aware of?
http://culturemob.com/nexus-5-nexus-7-price-specs-comparison

Globespy said:
I read a recent article that made claims that our beloved N5's should be able to allow us to chit chat for yogi up to 17 hours!
Anyone ever got over 5-6?
Where do they get these specs? Is there an updated uranium battery i'm not aware of?
http://culturemob.com/nexus-5-nexus-7-price-specs-comparison
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1. its probably supposed to say 7h
2. the nexus 7 doesnt have "talk time" as its a tablet that diesnt come with a dialer.
3. i wouldnt believe anything that culturemob.com writes.

Nexus 7 talk time is hilarious ? ?. The actual specs are in the google play store and it does list 17 hours of talk time.
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I've hit 7 and then my phone died. But it was literally a 7h phonecall.

Vekhez said:
I've hit 7 and then my phone died. But it was literally a 7h phonecall.
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calling time warner customer service are we? XD

Anandtech pegged it at 13.7 hours talk time. The official technical specifications list 17 hours.
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No phone usually lives up to its "specced" battery times. Usually.
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It does have the official specs at 17 hours talk time. I don't know how that's possible though.
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_5_32GB_Black?id=nexus_5_black_32gb
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FuMMoD said:
It does have the official specs at 17 hours talk time. I don't know how that's possible though.
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_5_32GB_Black?id=nexus_5_black_32gb
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It isn't. Lol
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Just like when phones claim 300 hours standby. LOL. Try just over 100 usually at best.
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kj2112 said:
It isn't. Lol
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Just like when phones claim 300 hours standby. LOL. Try just over 100 usually at best.
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its possible. you just have to turn literally everything else off and only use talk and be in perfect signal.

Zepius said:
its possible. you just have to turn literally everything else off and only use talk and be in perfect signal.
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I'll eat my hat when I see a screen shot at even half that. especially when the "phone" seems to be a real battery hog.
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FuMMoD said:
It does have the official specs at 17 hours talk time. I don't know how that's possible though.
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_5_32GB_Black?id=nexus_5_black_32gb
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That's clear cut deceptive selling. I think I might threaten a class action to have a full refund and save my money for the N6. Maybe they might learn to stop lying.

Globespy said:
That's clear cut deceptive selling. I think I might threaten a class action to have a full refund and save my money for the N6. Maybe they might learn to stop lying.
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Did you notice the * besides that claim and the accompanying disclaimer?
You can try to sue every other manufacturer while you're at it too, lol. You didn't actually think Nexus was the first to "stretch the truth" in this way, did you? They can put the devices in low powered operation that normal users would never attempt to get those numbers
The 14 hours that Anandtech got is much more realistic and still that is with extra niceties all disabled.
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bblzd said:
Did you notice the * besides that claim and the accompanying disclaimer?
You can try to sue every other manufacturer while you're at it too, lol. You didn't actually think Nexus was the first to "stretch the truth" in this way, did you? They can put the devices in low powered operation that normal users would never attempt to get those numbers
The 14 hours that Anandtech got is much more realistic and still that is with extra niceties all disabled.
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Lol! I was kidding. I've accepted that corporations and government have carte blanche to lie about everything and believe that is acceptable behavior... and the kicker is that we allowed them to create this scenario!
I can't wait to get 23 hours screen time on the new N6!

Gotta remember ....whoever makes the N6 (Motorola? ) won't let the nexus be as good as their flagship.....and battery is always gonna be an obvious "skimp" item. To cut costs and sell the nexus cheap.
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TheAtheistOtaku said:
calling time warner customer service are we? XD
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Well I lied. It was two phone calls. It was a 3h phonecall with my friend.. then a 4h phonecall with ANZ (no Time warner down here!)/

These numbers are based on the device running 100% stock and with 0 non stock apps running services in a very good service area if not on wifi.. so essentially the perfect storm.
People are consistently getting their N5 and other devices to over 5 and 6 hours of S.O.T. so I can see it being totally plausible to see insane spec times on a tablet with a much bigger battery.
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PJcastaldo said:
These numbers are based on the device running 100% stock and with 0 non stock apps running services in a very good service area if not on wifi.. so essentially the perfect storm.
People are consistently getting their N5 and other devices to over 5 and 6 hours of S.O.T. so I can see it being totally plausible to see insane spec times on a tablet with a much bigger battery.
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My N7 2012 goes about 6 days with 6 to 7 hour screen times. But it also sleeps with a drain of less than 0.1 percent per hour. I think it's cause there's hardly anything on it....everything is off, it stays on wifi constantly, and has no radio. I think if it were the 3g model, and not in airplane mode....the radio at least would drain it a bit more.
But yeah....batteries can do much better than most phones currently have. Standby drain will always degrade tho with more features running and radio signal strength for sure.
Can't see phone battery life getting much better than say an lg g2, or Droid maxx or something. Unless the phones get even bigger or battery technology improves so you get more bang at a smaller size.
Guess time will tell.
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kj2112 said:
My N7 2012 goes about 6 days with 6 to 7 hour screen times. But it also sleeps with a drain of less than 0.1 percent per hour. I think it's cause there's hardly anything on it....everything is off, it stays on wifi constantly, and has no radio. I think if it were the 3g model, and not in airplane mode....the radio at least would drain it a bit more.
But yeah....batteries can do much better than most phones currently have. Standby drain will always degrade tho with more features running and radio signal strength for sure.
Can't see phone battery life getting much better than say an lg g2, or Droid maxx or something. Unless the phones get even bigger or battery technology improves so you get more bang at a smaller size.
Guess time will tell.
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The demand is certainly there. I think we're seeing more of a focus on battery life with current phones. By using fast CPUs and LTE radios tasks can be completed and get to idle much quicker than before.
Where I'd like to see more progress is from software developers. Many apps and games are draining more than they require and don't focus on optimizing.
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bblzd said:
The demand is certainly there. I think we're seeing more of a focus on battery life with current phones. By using fast CPUs and LTE radios tasks can be completed and get to idle much quicker than before.
Where I'd like to see more progress is from software developers. Many apps and games are draining more than they require and don't focus on optimizing.
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That's cause any Joe schmoe can make an app and put it on play store. LOL. They certainly don't filter out much.
I'm hoping for better batteries too....I miss the days of going away on a weekend and a charger not being on my packing list. Tho I doubt that will happen with modern phones.
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Att moto x 2014 xt1097 just get a small update 23.16.9.en.US, is Marshmallow coming?

I just got this today, Marshmallow after this patch?

No, it should be 6.2 not 5

According to the motorola blog about marshmallow, the at&t model will NOT get marshmallow.
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I hate att hard

Dang, this phone is less than a year old. I ll be sticking to it for at least another year due to superior call quality.

Motorola also said that critical patches will still come to the carriers' versions but not marshmallow.
Verizon and at&t owners won't get updates.
Me instead of you don't take the update since a possible root exploit could come sometimes and taking the new update isn't that smart.

OrenGazala said:
Motorola also said that critical patches will still come to the carriers' versions but not marshmallow.
Verizon and at&t owners won't get updates.
Me instead of you don't take the update since a possible root exploit could come sometimes and taking the new update isn't that smart.
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I used to root, install CM on my phones but recently I don't feel it worth the time to do it anymore ( haven't done any root for the past 2 years). Truely love the Moto X call quality but without update...my next phone probably a Moto nexus or iPhone.

wangminh12 said:
I used to root, install CM on my phones but recently I don't feel it worth the time to do it anymore ( haven't done any root for the past 2 years). Truely love the Moto X call quality but without update...my next phone probably a Moto nexus or iPhone.
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Possible idea, ul bootloader, install twrp. And flash the stock 6.0 rom, I took the 5.1 soak test dl and couldn't update ota, but the stock roms work great!

I hope an exploit is found soon - I'm sick of getting the software update message constantly.

wangminh12 said:
I used to root, install CM on my phones but recently I don't feel it worth the time to do it anymore ( haven't done any root for the past 2 years). Truely love the Moto X call quality but without update...my next phone probably a Moto nexus or iPhone.
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You can't go wrong with an iphone. That's my daily phone I rock an iPhone 6s. I'm using the moto x 2014 as a backup device. Just to surf the web and do other stuff while my iPhone charges. I feel as the moto x lags when I'm using it over my iPhone and I have animations turned off, force rendering and nova launcher with faster than light set. Tbh I'm an iPhone guy though.

KP0719 said:
You can't go wrong with an iphone. That's my daily phone I rock an iPhone 6s. I'm using the moto x 2014 as a backup device. Just to surf the web and do other stuff while my iPhone charges. I feel as the moto x lags when I'm using it over my iPhone and I have animations turned off, force rendering and nova launcher with faster than light set. Tbh I'm an iPhone guy though.
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Well that was helpful..

KP0719 said:
You can't go wrong with an iphone. That's my daily phone I rock an iPhone 6s. I'm using the moto x 2014 as a backup device. Just to surf the web and do other stuff while my iPhone charges. I feel as the moto x lags when I'm using it over my iPhone and I have animations turned off, force rendering and nova launcher with faster than light set. Tbh I'm an iPhone guy though.
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How is the call quality on 6s? I used a 5s before but it's not as good Moto X 2014 ( I'm not a native speaker so i can tell the difference )

wangminh12 said:
How is the call quality on 6s? I used a 5s before but it's not as good Moto X 2014 ( I'm not a native speaker so i can tell the difference )
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It has really good call quality and we're going to get volte soon so the call quality is going to be better as well. But this is a moto x thread so I'm not going to talk about the iPhone anymore. Anyone know any update on root for this device yet?