Very straight-forward question... I hope.
I want a Lumia 925 for my account on T-Mobile in the States. (Well, my dad does, but just stay with me so I don't have to speak about him/his etc...)
I want to pay it all upfront. Therefore, I wanna get my phone wherever I get the best deal online.
I'm thinking why not buy it unlocked somewhere, that way I can use it with pay-as-you-go SIM cards because I travel to Europe a lot and its a quad band phone.
1. Can I do this? i.e. Will the phone work fine on my network and others internationally?
2. Will I NOT be able to get 4G in the US with an unlocked phone as the T-Mobile guy I just spoke to suggested in the store I just went to?
PLEASE help me figure this out. I think it's fine but I wanted to double check with experts.
If you just buy the phone in the US, TMo will unlock it for you (tell them you're from overseas / are travelling internationally if they try to object. I've unlocked several phones with them, never any trouble (might take a few days at worst if they need to get the code from somewhere). That way you can also guarantee it will work on their frequencies and with their Internet Sharing (WiFi tethering, which for some reason doesn't work on non-T-Mobile WP8 phones when used on TMo's network, even if the phones otherwise match the required bands and everything works, etc.)
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GoodDayToDie said:
If you just buy the phone in the US, TMo will unlock it for you (tell them you're from overseas / are travelling internationally if they try to object. I've unlocked several phones with them, never any trouble (might take a few days at worst if they need to get the code from somewhere). That way you can also guarantee it will work on their frequencies and with their Internet Sharing (WiFi tethering, which for some reason doesn't work on non-T-Mobile WP8 phones when used on TMo's network, even if the phones otherwise match the required bands and everything works, etc.)
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they refused to unlock my phone, because I haven't had it for 40 days on their system but if I state that they will seriously unlock it for me?
My dad got his phone unlocked within like 30 minutes of buying it; he's American but lives overseas now and was just visiting and the guy at the store had no problem getting him the unlock code when we mentioned he needed to be able to use it in different countries.
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ok, hopefully I wont get flamed but havent found the 5 y/o answers than I need.... I have a Tilt with AT&T, Im using an WM6.0 Alex ROM (may switch to Duttys)... Ill be heading to Ireland this weekend for a week and I wanted to make sure I understood exactly how I can use my phone when Im over there...
I know how I can get the code for Sim Unlocking the phone but I was curious about where I should get the new sim card and how rates will apply for me when Im over there...
Assuming I get the unlock code from AT&T:
1. Where should I purchase the sim card to use in Ireland?
2. Do I need to call AT&T to get an international plan for any reason?
3. What carrier would I be using while Im in Ireland?
4. What rates would apply for me calling the US or in country?
Any help would be appreciated... applying flame retardant gel now... go...
1. Go to Ireland local phone retailers to buy a SIM card.
2. No. If you don't want to receive call from your America phone #.
3. Your choice.
4. Once you pick the carrier, go to their website to see the rates.
It kinda makes me sad how people are afraid to make new threads now..
makes me wonder which direction web-forums are going.
Sorry, little OT
Your US Tilt should work fine with no change in SIM card, though the local calling rates will probably be a lot higher. I just got back from a swing through about 5 or 6 European countries (including the UK, but not Ireland) with my US Tilt and I was able to make and receive calls in all of them.
AT&T does offer a $5/mo International plan that cuts 20% or so off the per minute rates, but I didn't bother signing up for it as I expected to make only a few calls.
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Your US Tilt should work fine with no change in SIM card, though the local calling rates will probably be a lot higher. I just got back from a swing through about 5 or 6 European countries (including the UK, but not Ireland) with my US Tilt and I was able to make and receive calls in all of them.
AT&T does offer a $5/mo International plan that cuts 20% or so off the per minute rates, but I didn't bother signing up for it as I expected to make only a few calls.
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So do I even need to sim unlock it then?
if you are planning to use your own sim card in ireland and pay the roaming rates then you will not need to sim unlock your phone and you will be contactable on your current phone number.
if however you decide to purchase a sim card in ireland, you will have to sim unlock your phone. I know that this is meant to be relatively straightforward but I never had to do it.
If you decide to get an irish sim card you have the following options:
Meteor: http://www.meteor.ie/personal/pay_as_you_go/price_plans/
o2: http://www.o2online.ie/wps/wcm/connect/O2/Home/Personal/Price+plans/Speakeasy+prepay/O2+Experience
Vodafone: http://www.vodafone.ie/planscosts/prepay/current/
There are 2 other operators in ireland, tesco and 3 but they are very unpopular. I'm currently with o2 which offers the best value for me. If you want a relatively unbiased view go to the carphone warehouse as they sell all brands of sim-card and will recommend the most suitable
Whatever you do don't connect to the internet whilst in ireland except using wi-fi as data costs are ridiculous.
If you have any other questions feel free to ask.
regards
Séamus, one of the few Irish members
If I get a sim in Ireland, will that give me a new number that works on that network?
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If I get a sim in Ireland, will that give me a new number that works on that network?
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It will be like totally dumping AT$T, number and all, and switching to a brand new carrier
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It will be like totally dumping AT$T, number and all, and switching to a brand new carrier
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Would that cancel my AT&T account then?
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Would that cancel my AT&T account then?
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Not unless you cancel it. It would look to them as if your phone was off while you were using another SIM card.
So it sounds like I should only use an Ireland sim card if I plan to do a lot of local calling... If I only plan on calling US numbers then I should just keep my AT&T sim card and pay the international rates... is this correct?
Im going to take no response as a yes...
You'll be charged 1.29 per minuite or .99 cents depending on your plan with AT&T no matter where you call.
You can check via: http://www.wireless.att.com/travelguide/coverage/roaming_drop_down.jsp?PIDL=IRSD|IRWT
Hey XDA - I've been a browser forever, but I just signed up;
because I am in diiiiiiiiire need of some help.
I'm really sorry this has to be my first thread.
I promise I'm not a troll, and I promise I'll contribute as
much as I possibly can!
I have a situation I am in -
I currently have a Nexus One, on T-Mobile U.S.
It's completely stock, no hacks or roots, mods or anything.
To make a long story short - I'll be switching phones and providers soon (Evo), but I would like to give this phone to my girlfriend, who happens to live in the United Kingdom. She's on the O2 network, and has all the data/plan stuff covered already, I just need to get the phone working for her when she pops in her SIM card.
From what I've gathered, it seems like the Nexus One WILL work on O2 with both 2G and 3G speeds, if this is true; can someone verify?
"O2 use 2100MHz for 3G and 900/1800MHz for GSM (2G - Voice/GPRS).
The Nexus One supports these frequencies for both services."
Also, I've never unlocked, or rooted a phone before. This phone would NEED to be unlocked for her to be able to use it, right? Is it possible to unlock a phone without rooting it? I really am new to all of this. She's not a power user, so I'd like her to keep the stock build and get all the updates. Is that possible? To unlock the phone and keep everything stocked?
Can someone maybe help with that? Or should I just follow one of those guides to "unlock and flash the rom" guides that I've found all over the internet? I really want to just keep everything stock for her, with the exception of the phone being unlocked.
Whatever happens, will the Android market still be working for her?
Does anyone know how Google Maps would work on the phone for her, in the UK?
I'm basically in love with the girl, and we're trying to do everything we can to make the best of a long distance relationship. The main reason I want her to have an android phone (mine) is for her to be able to use Fring with me, and Google Chat - so I'd really hope those apps worked in the UK.
Any help on unlocking this bad boy is much appreciated.
Thank you XDA,
You guys are awesome - and I have all the respect in the world for you.
Hey Dude,
my US Nexus is working fine on O2 here in germany and there are no problems with 3G and 2G, so no worries. And afaik no Nexus One is sim-locked.
Hope this helps.
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Hey Dude,
my US Nexus is working fine on O2 here in germany and there are no problems with 3G and 2G, so no worries. And afaik no Nexus One is sim-locked.
Hope this helps.
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That actually does help a lot - but,
did you purchase the unlocked Nexus from Google?
I can't confirm, but I've heard that both are different,
the T-Mobile version being sim locked.
I also have the APN settings from O2 U.K already
- I'm aware of that part.
Hi, I am on o2 in the uk and the nexus works Just fine (2g & 3g). Also, I thought the nexus wasn't sim locked, I certainly never had to unlock mine.
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Hi, I am on o2 in the uk and the nexus works Just fine (2g & 3g). Also, I thought the nexus wasn't sim locked, I certainly never had to unlock mine.
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Was yours purchased unlocked though?
Thank you
Europe uses the same bands in every country. Its a direction from the European Union so every phone bought in Europe will work in every country in Europe.
Coincidentally, T-MO US uses the same bands so you won't have any trouble with it. I have the T-MO US version here in Romania and works fine on 2G and 3G.
I don't think its sim locked. You should put an att sim in it, although you're only gonna get 2G. But that will show you if its sim locked or not.
I am pretty sure that although Google were selling the Nexus with a T-Mobile option there are no sim- or netlocked Nexus Ones - simply for the fact that Google did not want that. That is also how Vodafone handles the Nexus distribution here in germany: There is an option for a bundle with a contract and the Nexus you get with it is not sim- or netlocked.
Also, to answer another question of you: Yes, your gf will be able to use all functions (market, maps, etc.) without any rooting-action necessary.
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Europe uses the same bands in every country. Its a direction from the European Union so every phone bought in Europe will work in every country in Europe.
Coincidentally, T-MO US uses the same bands so you won't have any trouble with it. I have the T-MO US version here in Romania and works fine on 2G and 3G.
I don't think its sim locked. You should put an att sim in it, although you're only gonna get 2G. But that will show you if its sim locked or not.
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That was a genius suggestion.
Popped in a co-workers ATT sim, and it worked
just fine with absolutely zero issues. Thank you!
AHHH I am so relieved. DDDDDDDDDDDDDD!
Siggi : Thank you also for that bit of information, you guys really just took a huge weight off my chest.
1. It will be fully functional on the provider you specified.
2. There is no such thing as SIM-locked Nexus.
3. It's fun using Fring video to show people places.
just for our your clarification: EVERY NEXUS ONE SOLD IS UNLOCKED, and, IT WILL WORK IN THE UK.
Settled.
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just for our your clarification: EVERY NEXUS ONE SOLD IS UNLOCKED, and, IT WILL WORK IN THE UK.
Settled.
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Exactly.
I also got a Nexus One from Google US and it's working without any problems in germany.
Just remember, even though your Nexus One is unlocked, if you are on contract with T-Mobile and you cancel early, you will have to pay an ETF.
Hello,
I have just purchased an unlocked international version of the Galaxy s3 from newegg.ca
I'm not allowed to post the link to the product as I am a new member.
Before I bought it I noticed that it will work on Rogers (in Canada, where I am from) so I went ahead and ordered it. I went back to the site a few days later and noticed that in the details it says that this phone will only work on the AT&T 3g network. In Canada we don't use AT&T so basically I am stuck with a smart phone that I can't connect to a data network with. A useless phone. I can send it back and get a refund so it's really not a big problem. I am wondering however, if there is a way that I can get the phone to work on a rogers network? Is there anything I can do, or do I just have to send it back? Thanks.
HaZe905 said:
Hello,
I have just purchased an unlocked international version of the Galaxy s3 from newegg.ca
I'm not allowed to post the link to the product as I am a new member.
Before I bought it I noticed that it will work on Rogers (in Canada, where I am from) so I went ahead and ordered it. I went back to the site a few days later and noticed that in the details it says that this phone will only work on the AT&T 3g network. In Canada we don't use AT&T so basically I am stuck with a smart phone that I can't connect to a data network with. A useless phone. I can send it back and get a refund so it's really not a big problem. I am wondering however, if there is a way that I can get the phone to work on a rogers network? Is there anything I can do, or do I just have to send it back? Thanks.
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So i am unsure about your carrier networks over there, but usually when a phone is locked to a carrier here in Australia, you really just need to pay an unlocking fee to use the other networks. Sure there might be some difference between their networks, but overall you should be able to get a working phone, maybe just not on the fastest mobile infrastructure.
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So i am unsure about your carrier networks over there, but usually when a phone is locked to a carrier here in Australia, you really just need to pay an unlocking fee to use the other networks. Sure there might be some difference between their networks, but overall you should be able to get a working phone, maybe just not on the fastest mobile infrastructure.
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Hey thanks. It is already unlocked. But for some reason, which I don't understand, the 3g will only work with AT&T networks. I'm sure there is a way to fix it if it's rooted or something like that but I just don't know how.
strange, according to wikipedia both AT&T and Rogers use 850/1900MHz for their 3G, so if you buy a phone for the AT&T network, the 3G should work fine on Rogers..
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strange, according to wikipedia both and use 850/1900MHz for their 3G, so if you buy a phone for the AT&T network, the 3G should work fine on Rogers..
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yeah I wish I could post the link to the product. I even called the company and they said it would be AT&T only. I guess this is why noobs should just stick to carriers and contracts.. I can't sign a contract because I may be headed overseas (hence the international version of the phone) but I am just not knowledgeable enough to navigate this situation without risk, I suppose
Hi all,
I'm about 90% sure that I'm going to buy the 64gb dev. HTC One. I'm still on Sprint but I think I'm done with them as they have seriously lost my confidence.
I don't have any experience with an unlocked phone that require a sim card and I'm kind of intimidated by that but I want to learn and see what kind of experience I have with an unlocked phone. I don't know how the whole sim card thing works and how it relates to Tmobile or At&t services, radio frequencies, 4glte, hspa+ etc.
I'm thinking of buying 2. One (no pun intended) for me and one for the wife. I guess my question is how do I make the transition from Sprint to Tmobile as quickly as and painless as possible. How do i explain an unlocked phone to my wife who also never been on another carrier other than sprint? What plan should I consider on Tmobile and or At&t. Which carrier's network is faster (I'm in Central NJ).
I understand the dev version has an unlocked bootloader. Does this mean it comes installed with a recovery and is it s-off / s-on?
I'm not a geek but I know how to flash roms/ kernels...basic sh*t you know.
If anyone can school me on what to expect form an unlocked phone and what I can do with it would be great. Will I be able to use sim cards from both tmobile and at&t on this phone?
Any help would be appreciated...
IIRC the Dev unit does not work on Sprint so you'd need to switch regardless.
You'll just have to get a new account and have them port the numbers over but you just won't be buying a phone on contract.
Most think it will have S-ON, but bootloader unlocked. This just means you can load ROMs, but they are locked to the kernel from HTC (not just any kernel which would be nice if you had S-OFF).
Yes, you can use a SIM from ATT and T-MO but remember that with T-MO unless you live in a new LTE zone or a refarmed 1900mhz HSPA+ band, you will be stuck with 2G speed.
htowngator said:
IIRC the Dev unit does not work on Sprint so you'd need to switch regardless.
You'll just have to get a new account and have them port the numbers over but you just won't be buying a phone on contract.
Most think it will have S-ON, but bootloader unlocked. This just means you can load ROMs, but they are locked to the kernel from HTC (not just any kernel which would be nice if you had S-OFF).
Yes, you can use a SIM from ATT and T-MO but remember that with T-MO unless you live in a new LTE zone or a refarmed 1900mhz HSPA+ band, you will be stuck with 2G speed.
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How do I find out if I'm in a re farmed 1900mhz HSPA+ area? Thanks for your help.
Anyone know how sim cards work?
help
i want buy htc with 2,5GHZ LTE version, where can i buy it on united states? miami or orlando...?
thanks very much
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How do I find out if I'm in a re farmed 1900mhz HSPA+ area? Thanks for your help.
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http://www.airportal.de/ -- map of 1900mhz
The SIM cards will be given to you by T-MO or ATT when you sign up.
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http://www.airportal.de/ -- map of 1900mhz
The SIM cards will be given to you by T-MO or ATT when you sign up.
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I see my good man. Thanks for all your help.
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I see my good man. Thanks for all your help.
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no problem, glad I could help
just go to T-MO or ATT store and tell them you have your own phone and simply want x-plan (whatever it is you're looking for)
obviously T-MO is nice for pre-paid, no contract, but unless you live in a new 1900mhz zone (or LTE) and the phone could possibly be flashed with t-mo's firmware (possibly opening up 1700) then stick with ATT
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no problem, glad I could help
just go to T-MO or ATT store and tell them you have your own phone and simply want x-plan (whatever it is you're looking for)
obviously T-MO is nice for pre-paid, no contract, but unless you live in a new 1900mhz zone (or LTE) and the phone could possibly be flashed with t-mo's firmware (possibly opening up 1700) then stick with ATT
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I just checked the refarmed 1900mhz map and I'm real close to i guess two towers. There's a **** load of them a few miles from me, but none at my address. Do you think I'll be able to pick up on that 1900mhz signal?
saco274 said:
I just checked the refarmed 1900mhz map and I'm real close to i guess two towers. There's a **** load of them a few miles from me, but none at my address. Do you think I'll be able to pick up on that 1900mhz signal?
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Wow, just checked all the area's where I usually go, NY (family), CT (work) and the 1900mhz is excellent except for where I live which is scattered but not that far away.
By they way, I just purchased 2 HTC One's. One for me and one for the wife! However, there on back order until they get there next shipment which they say is on the 24th of April. I'll keep you posted.
saco274 said:
I just checked the refarmed 1900mhz map and I'm real close to i guess two towers. There's a **** load of them a few miles from me, but none at my address. Do you think I'll be able to pick up on that 1900mhz signal?
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How close? If you're decently close to two towers you should be fine. To port your number from Sprint you will need to check four things,
1: Your account number. (Dial *2 for Sprint customer service from your Sprint phone for that)
2: Your account pin. (6-10 numbers)
3: If you have any time left on your Sprint contract. Keep in mind you most likely signed a 24 month contract, but upgrades roll around every 20 months. So even if you're elegible for upgrade there may still a early term fee from Sprint.
4 Basic information such as the main account holders name, billing address, etc.
Keep in mind that at the moment the 32 and 64gb versions are out of stock from HTC (for now) If you start up a new account on T-Mobile with unlocked devices you will be on what's called Month to Month pricing. This means that since you provided your own equipment, you will be able to cancel at any time with no termination fee. You will also have upgrades avalible from the get go since you didn't purchase subsidised equipment from them.
Good luck!
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How close? If you're decently close to two towers you should be fine. To port your number from Sprint you will need to check four things,
1: Your account number. (Dial *2 for Sprint customer service from your Sprint phone for that)
2: Your account pin. (6-10 numbers)
3: If you have any time left on your Sprint contract. Keep in mind you most likely signed a 24 month contract, but upgrades roll around every 20 months. So even if you're elegible for upgrade there may still a early term fee from Sprint.
4 Basic information such as the main account holders name, billing address, etc.
Keep in mind that at the moment the 32 and 64gb versions are out of stock from HTC (for now) If you start up a new account on T-Mobile with unlocked devices you will be on what's called Month to Month pricing. This means that since you provided your own equipment, you will be able to cancel at any time with no termination fee. You will also have upgrades avalible from the get go since you didn't purchase subsidised equipment from them.
Good luck!
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Wow, this is great information. From what I can see on the coverage maps the coverage is excellent. I just purchased 2 HTC One phones. However, as you said there out of stock and I'm on back order. I talked to representative and they said there next shipment of phones are not coming until the 24th of this month. Also. are the dev phones gsm phones as well?
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Wow, this is great information. From what I can see on the coverage maps the coverage is excellent. I just purchased 2 HTC One phones. However, as you said there out of stock and I'm on back order. I talked to representative and they said there next shipment of phones are not coming until the 24th of this month. Also. are the dev phones gsm phones as well?
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Fantastic! Yes, the Developer Edition is factory unlocked GSM There are two types of phone radios CDMA (Verizon, Sprint, Boost, etc) And GSM (At&t, T-Mobile, and basically every other international carrier) A locked phone is basically a phone configured to only accept a certain carriers network baseband. Unlocked is, well.. Unlocked! :laugh:
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Fantastic! Yes, the Developer Edition is factory unlocked GSM There are two types of phone radios CDMA (Verizon, Sprint, Boost, etc) And GSM (At&t, T-Mobile, and basically every other international carrier) A locked phone is basically a phone configured to only accept a certain carriers network baseband. Unlocked is, well.. Unlocked! :laugh:
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I'm so amped, can't wait!!!
Ok, the boot loader is unlocked but will i be able to achieve s-off on this bad boy. I have a EVO 4G LTE rooted s-off phone now but how does that work with unlocked phones? Also, you mentioned updates. Will they come straight from Google like they do on the nexus phone?
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I'm so amped, can't wait!!!
Ok, the boot loader is unlocked but will i be able to achieve s-off on this bad boy. I have a EVO 4G LTE rooted s-off phone now but how does that work with unlocked phones? Also, you mentioned updates. Will they come straight from Google like they do on the nexus phone?
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I don't think anyone has been able to get s-off this early, and if so it'd require access to a PC to use fastboot commands. Once more developers get their hands on one, it'll (hopefully) be a somewhat painless process. As far as updates go it will most likely be in the same boat as the carrier versions. One more reason having the a rooted dev version would be the bomb.com.
Enquiry
Dear Team
Anyone knows how to unlock HTC One, Carrier Sprint, USA
My phone also not asking for code when i insert the international sim.
aryanz said:
Dear Team
Anyone knows how to unlock HTC One, Carrier Sprint, USA
My phone also not asking for code when i insert the international sim.
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Trying asking in the Sprint One forum
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
Hi,
I'll be vacationing in British Columbia soon and wanted to know if anyone had a good advice for using our AT&T devices (2 Note5s) while there. One can almost see the US from where we are going but AT&T has no options that include enough data to actually use the phones in anything near the way we do in the US. Data plans are as high as $120 for 800mb. When I bought this for a trip to Mexico in the past that allowance was gone in days from mistakenly using Maps on cellular when I thought it was set to wifi only mode. AT&T customer service says no other plans exist that allow data usage.
Both phones are stock, unrooted, and locked as far as I know.
I can't find any realistic option to use these devices without large bills. I can use my google voice # to call /message over wifi if I need to but my wife is less into Google's services and thoroughly addicted to her phone.
Anyone have any advice/info?
Drew
Tbh, realistically you only have the expensive passport options that AT&T offers. If your phones were unlocked, I'd say get a prepaid sim from somewhere and pop those in.
AT&T lacks free Canadian roaming, something I despise since T-Mobile and Cricket (an AT&T company) provide. I'd say, if you're planning to stay for a long period, consider an attempt of getting your phone unlocked. Otherwise, stay close to wifi
Thanks for the reply. I spent most of today trying to find a reasonable option and that does seem to be the only choice. I'll just do whatever I need to do on WiFi and try to enjoy being disconnected.
The chat agents at AT&T initially said they had a plan that included Canada and Mexico data, talk and text but when I read the fine print that was not the case. It would have been nice because I'll be in Mexico soon too. I'm thinking I should buy a older unlocked phone and use local SIMs as I hope to be spending time in both places next year.