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I've been using Codename ever since it came out but I got tired of the problems related to the Kernel and switched to ProjectX. I and I'm sure others really want to use a smooth and working JB ROM.
Is there anyone working on the 3.0 Kernel for our device? I know Nik said he contacted someone to help us out but there's been no news on that front yet.
If anyone knows how to modify Kernels, Adi_pat gave some tips here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33291894
He'll probably help us out if we make some progress in booting up Codename with it at least
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I've been using Codename ever since it came out but I got tired of the problems related to the Kernel and switched to ProjectX. I and I'm sure others really want to use a smooth and working JB ROM.
Is there anyone working on the 3.0 Kernel for our device? I know Nik said he contacted someone to help us out but there's been no news on that front yet.
If anyone knows how to modify Kernels, Adi_pat gave some tips here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1899335&page=38
He'll probably help us out if we make some progress in booting up Codename with it at least
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Upon the exit of JB roms ago, were used GB modified kernel, now with source code maybe will be possible to compile a fully working kernel, but afaik there are no 3.x kernel for JB, maybe someone is working out of xda on irc channel but don't known..
Sadly I do not have much competence, plus I don't have the phone it's to repair....
There is kernel 3 for incredible 2 and desire s..may be someone can port it..
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I might be crazy, but I remember reading a post not too long ago about a dev that was writing the 3.0 kernel from source for our phones. I haven't heard an update since then, but I remember hearing it was someone with relation to the cm9 team. It sounded promising, but that development was very slow.
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TheMegosh said:
I might be crazy, but I remember reading a post not too long ago about a dev that was writing the 3.0 kernel from source for our phones. I haven't heard an update since then, but I remember hearing it was someone with relation to the cm9 team. It sounded promising, but that development was very slow.
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Off the top of my head I seem to recall Noverbose saying he was trying to write a 3.0 Kernel. I also remember at least one other person mentioning something similar to, so there are people working on this. From what I understand it's not easy - I doubt we'll see anything this side of Christmas tbh. I hadn't realised that the Inc 2 and DS had a 3.0 Kernel though. Anyone know if they are actually a made from source version, rather than the same hacked version that we have in Codename, for example?
Well tbh honest a working GB kernel would do too.
Like the front camera and chrome and screen flickering etc.
Damn I wish kaijura was here
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CyanideJack said:
Off the top of my head I seem to recall Noverbose saying he was trying to write a 3.0 Kernel. I also remember at least one other person mentioning something similar to, so there are people working on this. From what I understand it's not easy - I doubt we'll see anything this side of Christmas tbh. I hadn't realised that the Inc 2 and DS had a 3.0 Kernel though. Anyone know if they are actually a made from source version, rather than the same hacked version that we have in Codename, for example?
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Yes those 3.0 kernels are compiled from source. I checked out AOSP ROM threads in the Desire S and Inc 2 section that had 3.0 kernel, then looked up the creator of the ROM on github and found the sources. I was going to try tackle the 3.0 kernel to get a hang of the make system before building CM9, but I don't have enough monthly data left to download the kernel toolchain! Nov 1st is close, so I can get to work soon! :highfive:
The best way to build an AOSP 3.0 kernel for our device would probably be to look at the source code for 3.0 kernels on our sister devices, and figure it out from there.
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Yes those 3.0 kernels are compiled from source. I checked out AOSP ROM threads in the Desire S and Inc 2 section that had 3.0 kernel, then looked up the creator of the ROM on github and found the sources. I was going to try tackle the 3.0 kernel to get a hang of the make system before building CM9, but I don't have enough monthly data left to download the kernel toolchain! Nov 1st is close, so I can get to work soon! :highfive:
The best way to build an AOSP 3.0 kernel for our device would probably be to look at the source code for 3.0 kernels on our sister devices, and figure it out from there.
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Well holy crap, dude, get on that! Seriously though, getting a working 3.0 kernel for our device would go a long way to making JB a usable ROM for our device. Would it be possible to port JellyTime or a similar JB ROM to our device as well?
The source doesn't need changing, it is the ramdisk that is the problem. I have been trying to get help, but so far no luck, adi_pat said he would take a look, but it is hard for me to test as I no longer have an inc s
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Well holy crap, dude, get on that! Seriously though, getting a working 3.0 kernel for our device would go a long way to making JB a usable ROM for our device. Would it be possible to port JellyTime or a similar JB ROM to our device as well?
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I'm gonna worry mainly about compiling CM9 from source once November hits, that's gonna take up the majority of my time. After I get the first release of CM9 out, I'll start work on a 3.0 kernel if it hasn't been done yet. I have no experience whatsoever dealing with kernels though, except for small ramdisk edits, so don't expect any miracles.
It should be possible to port other JB ROM's over using one of nik's ported JB ROM's as a base and reference point, the only problem is I don't know exactly what files I have to substitute to port a ROM. I've PM'd nik about that a few hours ago, so hopefully I'll get some more information on the subject. Nik has been a big help to my dev efforts as a whole.
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The source doesn't need changing, it is the ramdisk that is the problem. I have been trying to get help, but so far no luck, adi_pat said he would take a look, but it is hard for me to test as I no longer have an inc s
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Interesting, if it's only the ramdisk that needs changing, couldn't you look at the ramdisk from one of niks JB ROM's? Or is it not as simple as that? I'm assuming the latter, seeing as if it were that obvious I'm sure someone would've done it by now. If you ever need help testing, send me a PM I'd be more than willing to test for you.
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I'm gonna worry mainly about compiling CM9 from source once November hits, that's gonna take up the majority of my time. After I get the first release of CM9 out, I'll start work on a 3.0 kernel if it hasn't been done yet. I have no experience whatsoever dealing with kernels though, except for small ramdisk edits, so don't expect any miracles.
It should be possible to port other JB ROM's over using one of nik's ported JB ROM's as a base and reference point, the only problem is I don't know exactly what files I have to substitute to port a ROM. I've PM'd nik about that a few hours ago, so hopefully I'll get some more information on the subject. Nik has been a big help to my dev efforts as a whole.
Interesting, if it's only the ramdisk that needs changing, couldn't you look at the ramdisk from one of niks JB ROM's? Or is it not as simple as that? I'm assuming the latter, seeing as if it were that obvious I'm sure someone would've done it by now. If you ever need help testing, send me a PM I'd be more than willing to test for you.
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About using one of Nik's JB roms as a reference
What I understood was that the rom has been built around the old 2.6.x kernel and has to be modified again to work with the 3.0.x kernel, if you guys get one up and running. If that is the case, wouldn't you be going down the wrong path if you model it around nik's existing 2.6.x roms?
We need kaijura here, he was our AOSP kernel master. Hopefully he is doing ok, and has found something else other than xda because he hasn't been online for months. At least other devs, like lordclokan and kali- have moved on and are active with other devices... kaijura hasn't been on at all. Anyone been in contact with him/her?
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About using one of Nik's JB roms as a reference
What I understood was that the rom has been built around the old 2.6.x kernel and has to be modified again to work with the 3.0.x kernel, if you guys get one up and running. If that is the case, wouldn't you be going down the wrong path if you model it around nik's existing 2.6.x roms?
We need kaijura here, he was our AOSP kernel master. Hopefully he is doing ok, and has found something else other than xda because he hasn't been online for months. At least other devs, like lordclokan and kali- have moved on and are active with other devices... kaijura hasn't been on at all. Anyone been in contact with him/her?
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I know, it would be going down a pretty redundant path. If I was able to port over a JB ROM using nik's ROM's as a base, then my ported ROM would inherit all the same bugs nik's ROM's already have.
I wish kaijura was still around, I have so many questions I want to ask about compiling from source! Luckily lordclokan was a massive help to me in that regard. Kaijura's github hasn't seen action in months either, sadly.
Forgive my ignorance, but isn't the Desire HD essentially our device with a bigger screen and less memory? That being the case, could we not just port across one of the 3.0 Kernels from that?
The problem with the ramdisk that come with the official ROM's that have 3.0 kernels, is that they are built for the sense framework and don't work on AOSP ROM's. The ram disk that is included with Nik's JB ROM's is heavily modified to run a GB kernel with ICS / JB sources, so the problem is I don't have a base to work from, I am basically trying to merge the two init's to make the 3.0 kernel boot.
Saying that we need to port 3.0 kernel is probably a bit misleading, and for that I apologise, the kernel itself has very little Sense specific stuff, it's the ramdisk that is responsible for launching the kernel that is the issue here at the moment.
The only problem with the desire HD kernel would be that our front camera would not work
+ I forgot to link to adi_pat's post - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33291894
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l0st.prophet said:
The problem with the ramdisk that come with the official ROM's that have 3.0 kernels, is that they are built for the sense framework and don't work on AOSP ROM's. The ram disk that is included with Nik's JB ROM's is heavily modified to run a GB kernel with ICS / JB sources, so the problem is I don't have a base to work from, I am basically trying to merge the two init's to make the 3.0 kernel boot.
Saying that we need to port 3.0 kernel is probably a bit misleading, and for that I apologise, the kernel itself has very little Sense specific stuff, it's the ramdisk that is responsible for launching the kernel that is the issue here at the moment.
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Well you can prolly get ideas from adi ( he posted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33302707&postcount=387 not sure if you saw it) he seems to know what's up.
TheDareDevil said:
The only problem with the desire HD kernel would be that our front camera would not work
+ I forgot to link to adi_pat's post - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33291894
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So it looks like the furthest things got regarding a 3.0 Kernel was;
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Ok so 2.6.35 works with Jellybean. Why not pack the ramdisk with zImage compiled from 3.0.y sources(Considering you are using standard boot.img format[?]) Because to get it to boot, you would not require any hacks/changes to source, editing ramdisk(init.rc) is enough to make it boot initally.
EDIT: You may also need to change init binary.
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l0st.prophet said:
The problem with the ramdisk that come with the official ROM's that have 3.0 kernels, is that they are built for the sense framework and don't work on AOSP ROM's. The ram disk that is included with Nik's JB ROM's is heavily modified to run a GB kernel with ICS / JB sources, so the problem is I don't have a base to work from, I am basically trying to merge the two init's to make the 3.0 kernel boot.
Saying that we need to port 3.0 kernel is probably a bit misleading, and for that I apologise, the kernel itself has very little Sense specific stuff, it's the ramdisk that is responsible for launching the kernel that is the issue here at the moment.
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Very interesting, thanks for the informative post. :good:
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very interesting, thanks for the informative post. :good:
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happy november!!!
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happy november!!!
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A very happy November indeed
Is there going to be Sense 5.0 Rom for HTC incredible s? Could it be ported?
deni1996 said:
Is there going to be Sense 5.0 Rom for HTC incredible s? Could it be ported?
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Not to sound rude but to open a new thread in the development section to ask such a question is just not right. Please post such questions in the general section.
We do not have that many devs working on incredible s as it is a relatively old device. If someone manges to develop an ion kernel and port sense 5 you will see it in the dev section.
Quite fortunate to get a few working jellybean aosp ROMs and quite a few sense 4.1 ROMs for a device that has no more support from htc so enjoy those and be happy.
@ moderator can this thread please be closed or moved to the general section?
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deni1996 said:
Is there going to be Sense 5.0 Rom for HTC incredible s? Could it be ported?
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No. Because kernel.
spazzy1912 said:
No. Because kernel.
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-_- what do u mean kernel...... The kernel is still a jellybean kernel, just modified to be compatible with Sense. Although I dont know how to do it, Im sure it might be possible for someone like Szeszo to develop such a kernel. The only problem is that it requires a ton of work and I dont think Szeszo has that much time..... Not to mention resizing of the actual ROM.....
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-_- what do u mean kernel...... The kernel is still a jellybean kernel, just modified to be compatible with Sense. Although I dont know how to do it, Im sure it might be possible for someone like Szeszo to develop such a kernel. The only problem is that it requires a ton of work and I dont think Szeszo has that much time..... Not to mention resizing of the actual ROM.....
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its got something to do with a thing called ION within the kernel.
apparently our phone doesnt have it by default.
it was mentioned somewhere in cyanvivo thread i believe.
spazzy1912 said:
its got something to do with a thing called ION within the kernel.
apparently our phone doesnt have it by default.
it was mentioned somewhere in cyanvivo thread i believe.
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Yes it was and Im well aware of that. Our phone doesnt natively support Ion and as a result you have to change some camera libs, i think they were, and maybe a few other things here and there. But it is possible and the proof to that is the fact that we have Jellybean ROMs for our device.
im looking for a kernel with lots of features
DizzlePro said:
im looking for a kernel with lots of features
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I'm using the stock one that came with trick droid.
AFAIK sources haven't been released for 4.2.2 so everyone's using modded 4.1.2 ones. With that in mind there's not that many great ones out there. Lots of features that were present on 4.1 aren't there.
Just so you know, this thread will probably get closed. There's no which is the best this or that threads allowed on xda.
Just so u know.
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Until HTC releases their source for 4.2.2 you won't find anything really other than a modded stock, as mentioned above. Your best bet is to bookmark a few threads in the Android & Original Android development forums and check back frequently. I'd assume by the end of the month we'l see new kernels.
Can't wait for some real custom kernels.
-Sent from Marino's One-
Am I correct that the 4.3 kernel (for Sprint) has not been released yet? I like the S2S/S2W option on the custom kernels, but if I understand correctly, none of the 4.3 ROMs will be able to have that feature until the kernel is released. I haven't tried or seen mention of people using the 'old' custom kernels like ElementalX, Wolfpack, Bulletproof on the 4.3 ROMs, so I assume they won't work on them.
Sorry if this is a newb question.
Kernel has been released, yes because we have it in the OTAs but that is built and compiled from source which is what we need to start building custom kernels in which HTC is seemingly intentional at releasing them much later than when they are useless.
I meant to ask if the source code has been released. Thanks
jdjohn said:
I meant to ask if the source code has been released. Thanks
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Source has not been released!
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Hello,
I'm new here and I'm looking for a good stable rom for my daily use (fully functional) and most importantly stable , I'm actually tired of how my phone performs on the stock rom, I would like to have fast and smooth performance. Is there anything possible? Help and suggesstions will be highly appreciated.
I'm using the Rogers HTC Raider 4G.
Regards.
No one?
I think the best way to do it is to try each one for a couple of days, while making notes about their pros & cons. One person could tell you that one rom is the best, while another could tell you a different rom is the best. It's all up to you.
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I think the best way to do it is to try each one for a couple of days, while making notes about their pros & cons. One person could tell you that one rom is the best, while another could tell you a different rom is the best. It's all up to you.
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This is a developers forum, there are a lot of roms here for one device, I'm not a developer, I'm just an individual looking for one or two. All I'm saying is that, a developer has knowledge and experience, if a developer would care to suggest one or two, I would be out of the scenario of trying each one, because for a daily user like me, it would be a pain. You know what I'm saying, right?
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This is a developers forum, there are a lot of roms here for one device, I'm not a developer, I'm just an individual looking for one or two. All I'm saying is that, a developer has knowledge and experience, if a developer would care to suggest one or two, I would be out of the scenario of trying each one, because for a daily user like me, it would be a pain. You know what I'm saying, right?
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And each dev would steer you towards their own ROM...
Hence the 'try them all and figure it out for yourself'
Or..
Read the threads to see which one sounds like the one for you
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rignfool said:
And each dev would steer you towards their own ROM...
Hence the 'try them all and figure it out for yourself'
Or..
Read the threads to see which one sounds like the one for you
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I have read two complete threads of two roms, and I have tried one, but I'm having a hard time knowing which one is stable, I want some dev, any dev to point out at a stable rom.
Zeekayy said:
I have read two complete threads of two roms, and I have tried one, but I'm having a hard time knowing which one is stable, I want some dev, any dev to point out at a stable rom.
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OK...
I hate to do this...
But
CM 11 is nice and stable... But old...
PAC 4.4.4 is stable-ish... Has some bugs... But its in nightlies... So bugs come and go...
Ressurection Remix is really nice and stable... But very old... So you'll have some compatibility issues with things...
Any of the CM 10.2 ROMs are bad battery drainers due to old kernel issues...
Ditto for the CM 10 ROMs...
I hate sense... But any of the sense based ROMs are really stable... If you go with those... Kozmik's kernel is very nice... The senseless sense ROMs are a little messy... But very usable...
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rignfool said:
OK...
I hate to do this...
But
CM 11 is nice and stable... But old...
PAC 4.4.4 is stable-ish... Has some bugs... But its in nightlies... So bugs come and go...
Ressurection Remix is really nice and stable... But very old... So you'll have some compatibility issues with things...
Any of the CM 10.2 ROMs are bad battery drainers due to old kernel issues...
Ditto for the CM 10 ROMs...
I hate sense... But any of the sense based ROMs are really stable... If you go with those... Kozmik's kernel is very nice... The senseless sense ROMs are a little messy... But very usable...
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Just what I wanted to see, thanks a lot!
One more thing, the CM 11 is the 4.2.2 Rom isn't it? I've seen it on some Raiders these days, is it good for daily use?
Thankyou again.
@rignfool
I'm restricted to post in the other thread, is Kozmik's kernel compatible with the stock ICS sense 3.6 rom?
And if so, is it possible to flash it via fastboot through pc? Because I'm currently S-on and don't plan to go S-off.
Mentioning again that I have a Roger's HTC Raider.
Zeekayy said:
@rignfool
I'm restricted to post in the other thread, is Kozmik's kernel compatible with the stock ICS sense 3.6 rom?
And if so, is it possible to flash it via fastboot through pc? Because I'm currently S-on and don't plan to go S-off.
Mentioning again that I have a Roger's HTC Raider.
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No... Kozmik requires s-off...
If that is the case... Try faux's kernel...
And... Use intellidemand
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No... Kozmik requires s-off...
If that is the case... Try faux's kernel...
And... Use intellidemand
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So all I have to do is just download faux's kernel directly on my phone flash it through recovery and I'm good to go?
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So all I have to do is just download faux's kernel directly on my phone flash it through recovery and I'm good to go?
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No... You need to use fastboot to flash the kernel
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No... You need to use fastboot to flash the kernel
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Oh yeah, right.
Thankyou!
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OK...
Any of the CM 10.2 ROMs are bad battery drainers due to old kernel issues...
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Is there a way to fix batery drain ? Which other kernel will work for cm 10.2 without s-off ?
FabrisTheBest said:
Is there a way to fix batery drain ? Which other kernel will work for cm 10.2 without s-off ?
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None
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None
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Ok. Do you know a very stable Kitkat rom without batery drain (I try CM11, some of my app won't working) ?
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Ok. Do you know a very stable Kitkat rom without batery drain (I try CM11, some of my app won't working) ?
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I use PAC... Works like 95% for me...
I only have problems with making regular calls and video cals with hangouts...
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I use PAC... Works like 95% for me...
I only have problems with making regular calls and video cals with hangouts...
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And about a Jellybean ROM ? The Touchwiz Rom work without s-off ?