I am with 4.4.KK Nightly rom.
I wonder which kernel is better battery saving vise, Semaphore or McKay Kernel ?
Any suggestion?
sas_sas said:
I am with 4.4.KK Nightly rom.
I wonder which kernel is better battery saving vise, Semaphore or McKay Kernel ?
Any suggestion?
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Don't get me wrong. why not test them for a week each on your phone, as it will never be the same on someone else device as each user may have different preferences and usage.
so relying on suggestions may not be the wiser move for you.
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xsenman said:
Don't get me wrong. why not test them for a week each on your phone, as it will never be the same on someone else device as each user may have different preferences and usage.
so relying on suggestions may not be the wiser move for you.
Check this out! Links to useful Guides and " Banned " Documentaries
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Of course I am going to test myself but, is not it wise to benefit from others, who have more knowledge, opinion too ?
sas_sas said:
Of course I am going to test myself but, is not it wise to benefit from others, who have more knowledge, opinion too ?
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yes, hopefully others will give you their opinions on this thread, but it may differ in your device as it would not be based on your configuration and usage as such it may not be the best method to test battery consumption for your device. what I am saying is that we all have differant usage and applications for our device, so battery consumption will vary from user to user.
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The difference between kernels is probably not that great.
I think you could make more difference to battery life by having less apps running in the background preventing the phone from sleeping.
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sas_sas said:
I am with 4.4.KK Nightly rom.
I wonder which kernel is better battery saving vise, Semaphore or McKay Kernel ?
Any suggestion?
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Both the kernels are nice according to me. You may also try the latest cyancore kernel by @ts1506. Also his cyanAOSP ROM is the lightest KitKat ROM.
For better battery life, make sure you have the less no. of running apps in background.
Try the following:
1. Don't over-clock your device as high frequencies need higher voltages.
2. Our Galaxy S has Super AMOLED display, which consumes more battery while the white screen but consumes least when the display is black.
Therefore, use black wallpaper for screen. And try to prefer the apps with black background.
3. Use Greenify app to disable app running in background.
4. Switch of GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth and mobile data when not in use.
5. Under-clock your device while sleeping to save power.
6. Kill apps while not using them.
sas_sas said:
I am with 4.4.KK Nightly rom.
I wonder which kernel is better battery saving vise, Semaphore or McKay Kernel ?
Any suggestion?
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First of all, hi everyone, since this is my first post on XDA!
In my opinion, both Semaphore an MacKay work smoothly with 4.4, and they are battery friendly as well (i'm using MacKay's ROM).
You can yet have a slight battery consumption gain by using semaphore's auto brightness with a dark profile.
Running CM 11 Nightly with Semaphore, I would say my battery usage has gone down from 4.3 Slimbean. I'm using the same apps and my phone the same amount.
Kitkat is great. I can't speak highly of the stock CM kernel though, you should definitly use something else.
Semaphore for me has been better at battery consumption reduction.
Please keep a check on running apps and in Settings\developers options\background data limit\ set it to2 or 3 so that cached background apps dont suck any battery.
Informative
Thanx
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can anybody who used all three of the roms comment on the battery life of these ROMS? how do they compare against each other?
whyzee said:
can anybody who used all three of the roms comment on the battery life of these ROMS? how do they compare against each other?
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im not one to say I have used all 3, ive only used CM7. it was good. actually even MIUI is good but u gotta know how to find your wakelocks with betterbatterystats. that way you can optimize battery life regardless of whatever rom you're on.
I could go 1-2 days on my MIUI currently FR rom, moderate usage, all my syncs are off, i manually refresh for notifications.
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im not one to say I have used all 3, ive only used CM7. it was good. actually even MIUI is good but u gotta know how to find your wakelocks with betterbatterystats. that way you can optimize battery life regardless of whatever rom you're on.
I could go 1-2 days on my MIUI currently FR rom, moderate usage, all my syncs are off, i manually refresh for notifications.
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What do you mean "but u gotta know how to find your wakelocks with better batterystats" ? I usually dont have anything running in the background...
I have used CM 7, all MIUI, Lewa, and Mokee, and Ice BlacK too
In my view
1. CM7 have better battery life (but as I use to play 3 D games I won't prefer)
2. Second is Galnet MIUI, built by elol, decent battery life with good performance.
3. Third is Mokee, It is the best ROM for gamer and for others too who don't use to play game. It almost serve me for whole day with games, music and all mail, FB, Linkedin sync on for 24 hrs.
For me best choice is "Bumblebee" it's really a stable ROM and give's really great battery life, Best in which i have used.
In term's of Gaming this ROM is really great, it give's games extra smoothness to Game's by increasing FPS with help of it's new GPU derive.
This all make this ROM as my daily use ROM.
whyzee said:
What do you mean "but u gotta know how to find your wakelocks with better batterystats" ? I usually dont have anything running in the background...
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google xda betterbatterystats. download the app and follow the thread, those are uber battery sensitive people in the community.
so you manually sync all your apps as well? even calendar? and leave gtalk signed out?
wakelocks are what keeps the phone away from entering deep sleep. from the betterbatterystats app, if u see ur device entering 96% and above Deep Sleep after a night's full charge and allowed to idle, then good job, no matter what rom ur running u should be doing it right.
wakelocks are what cause a battery drain even when your phone is off idle while u sleep. it isnt only about background apps.
Yes,,I was use betterbatterystats,,I have managed all wakelocks and partial too,,it's give me battery life more time
But battery use info from setting doesn't change,,still give me "Android System" for highest % deal,,
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Arya_3RDNumber said:
Yes,,I was use betterbatterystats,,I have managed all wakelocks and partial too,,it's give me battery life more time
But battery use info from setting doesn't change,,still give me "Android System" for highest % deal,,
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flash stock rom and see if the problem persists. If it does return your phone and get a new one. You've got no other go!!!
Arya_3RDNumber said:
Yes,,I was use betterbatterystats,,I have managed all wakelocks and partial too,,it's give me battery life more time
But battery use info from setting doesn't change,,still give me "Android System" for highest % deal,,
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post your dump here. and also at the BBS thread where u got the app.
so unless you are getting 96% and above deep sleep, id say you have not completely managed your wakelocks yet. also what are your governor and i/o scheduler settings? OC'ed at? do you have a screen off profile to lower clock speed when screen off?
battery use info may show that, but most important is u charge your phone to full, let it discharge while u sleep and wake up next day, OBTAIN 96% DEEP SLEEP OR HIGHER. figure out what are the wakelocks in BBS. if BBS is managed correctly, even if your android system is using highest %, no big deal, more importantly your battery isn't draining like mad.
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can anybody who used all three of the roms comment on the battery life of these ROMS? how do they compare against each other?
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I still don't have raw stats. Can anyone who has used all phones comment?
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Hello guys. I would like to hear some suggestions regarding this. So far I've tried CM7 and emanoN, but both of them drain like hell (specially CM7). Please avoid usual recomendations (turn off data, bluetooth, wireless and all those basic tips).
If there's an app, script or tweak that helps, please share it with me! My priority is battery life, above everything else.
Hope to get some replies! Thanks in advance
Skipping all the basic tips, I suggest you use a pure source-kind of rom. Something like the MOre rom or Pure CM7 by mebitek or kittenlinux, another one is GingerMod. Battery lives one those roms are so far one of the most cheered for. CM9 Beta 7 also had incredible battery life, although the link is probably gone already as mirroring is not allowed by Maclaw. As for the scripts, some mini users find these annoying and just a piece of cr*p, but as for me, I really made sure that it wasn't just a placebo effect. SlaidyBoost v2.3 works well and am happy with the performance and battery life boost that comes with it.
wtfshouldidonow said:
Skipping all the basic tips, I suggest you use a pure source-kind of rom. Something like the MOre rom or Pure CM7 by mebitek or kittenlinux, another one is GingerMod. Battery lives one those roms are so far one of the most cheered for. CM9 Beta 7 also had incredible battery life, although the link is probably gone already as mirroring is not allowed by Maclaw. As for the scripts, some mini users find these annoying and just a piece of cr*p, but as for me, I really made sure that it wasn't just a placebo effect. SlaidyBoost v2.3 works well and am happy with the performance and battery life boost that comes with it.
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Thanks for your comment! What about this one?
That one was originally made to improve battery life when you use wifi most of the time for browsing the net or such, but I can see that other tweaks have been added for an overall change, and based on the comments there, some users found their minis slow down a bit. Although I haven't tried it yet, it's best if you would simply flash the rom you chose to use, boot it up and set up the settings you want initially, then reboot to recovery, make a backup of that rom, then start experimenting with various scripts found here in XDA that is compatible with our mini. If you don't like the results, then simply restore the backup you made earlier. I'll try that script you told me about if I have the time, though.
Chaurigol said:
Thanks for your comment! What about this one?
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No, that ****ty script doesn't work.
I recommend you the stock ROM if you want battery life.
Stock samsung rom has the best battery life. But, on official CM7 with 604MHz for max, 122MHz for min and ondemand cpu governor, i'm having good battery life, can't complain at all. Haven't tried stock rom for ages, maybe my current setup is even better
domcale said:
Stock samsung rom has the best battery life. But, on official CM7 with 604MHz for max, 122MHz for min and ondemand cpu governor, i'm having good battery life, can't complain at all. Haven't tried stock rom for ages, maybe my current setup is even better
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Thanks man, but I don't think CM7 is the best option when looking for long battery life. I'm going to try de stock based ones and decide if any of them if better than the actual stock rom. Andro-ID, emanoN and GingerMod are apparently the most popular ones. Regarding the others, MORe is discontinued, so I wouldn't go for it, same as the one from kittenlinux. I'll give CyanMobile and mebitek's a try too! Trying GingerMod right now.
CM7.2 is draining battery fast because at default it's using Lil'GV2 governor which is veery agressive regarding CPU frequency! When you set it to ondemand it's much better. It costs you nothing to try it out if you haven't, stock rom is just too ugly and slowish when not rebooted regulary
domcale said:
CM7.2 is draining battery fast because at default it's using Lil'GV2 governor which is veery agressive regarding CPU frequency! When you set it to ondemand it's much better. It costs you nothing to try it out if you haven't, stock rom is just too ugly and slowish when not rebooted regulary
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Installed GingerMod (smartassV2 governor) and overnight battery dropped 35%. That is definitely not normal, and happened with the other ROMs too! Can anyone help me identify the problem?
Edit: BTW, the phone is two weeks old, and when I first bought it I didn't experience this huge drain.
Chaurigol said:
Hello guys. I would like to hear some suggestions regarding this. So far I've tried CM7 and emanoN, but both of them drain like hell (specially CM7). Please avoid usual recomendations (turn off data, bluetooth, wireless and all those basic tips).
If there's an app, script or tweak that helps, please share it with me! My priority is battery life, above everything else.
Hope to get some replies! Thanks in advance
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if u want good battery backup try andro-id ..it gives better backup then stock rom ..
http://yagyagaire.blogspot.in/2012/04/andro-id-v331-for-galaxy-mini-gt-s5570.html
domcale said:
Stock samsung rom has the best battery life. But, on official CM7 with 604MHz for max, 122MHz for min and ondemand cpu governor, i'm having good battery life, can't complain at all. Haven't tried stock rom for ages, maybe my current setup is even better
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TBH stock rom didn't work for me well especially regarding battery life. CM 7.2 official 710MHz/245MHz ONDEMAND battery lasts and lasts and phone is faster. Couldn't ask for more considering mini is entry level android phone for some time :good:
Chaurigol said:
Installed GingerMod (smartassV2 governor) and overnight battery dropped 35%. That is definitely not normal, and happened with the other ROMs too! Can anyone help me identify the problem?
Edit: BTW, the phone is two weeks old, and when I first bought it I didn't experience this huge drain.
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why dont u recallibrate battery after flashing ROMs:
1. Use app battery callibration from store, the developper is Nema i think.
Thanks, but I do that regularly, and as far as I'm concerned that doesn't improve battery life, just the accuracy of the % shown.
Chocobread with antutu battery saver is amazing I don't charge my phone one and a half day and still the battery is at 20 I love this life ... battery life.
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This is my personal use only, but I have share to my friends:
iCUSTOM DXKT6
for screenshoot:
click HERE
But that's in Indonesian language.
Hope u're suitable with iCUSTOM DXKT6.
orieoke said:
This is my personal use only, but I have share to my friends:
iCUSTOM DXKT6
for screenshoot:
click HERE
But that's in Indonesian language.
Hope u're suitable with iCUSTOM DXKT6.
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I appreciate it, but I'm not really familiar with indonesian language. Thanks anyway!
I think stock official CM 7.2 ROM does not contain the kernel. Can anybody please confirm?
On the pc, most of power management is by the kernel. Guess here too, we should look at kernel rather than the rom.?
I may be wrong though.
So, OP, which ROM did you settle for?
boaxfux said:
So, OP, which ROM did you settle for?
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Still trying them. I'd say Andro-ID is the best until now! Unfortunately it doesn't support many languages, including mine (spanish).
Chaurigol and wtfshouldidonow, I saw you commented about my project. My project was created specially to achieve a good-battery life. I cannot guarantee that your phone will have great battery life, but you can give a try. Also, you can try my mod with Adrenaline Engine. If you want to try my mod, try to use my edited Adrenaline Engine (which will work with my battery mod):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27664110&postcount=75
My phone (which is now bricked from suspicious reasons) had a great battery life, about 2-4 days.
I am using a friend's old Bionic as a backup after my GNex broke and I am seeing Android OS reported as being very high in the stock Android usage Battery Meter - I don't see any major wakelocks in BBS either.
Anything that might cause this or anything I can freeze, disable, etc to fix this? Any other information I can provide that would be helpful?
Thanks in advance.
Stigy said:
I am using a friend's old Bionic as a backup after my GNex broke and I am seeing Android OS reported as being very high in the stock Android usage Battery Meter - I don't see any major wakelocks in BBS either.
Anything that might cause this or anything I can freeze, disable, etc to fix this? Any other information I can provide that would be helpful?
Thanks in advance.
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normal for bionic since ICS and JB...go with a rom or de-odexed...plus even it being on the high end its not really soaking up that much battery juice. its an overall of all the apps you have that need constant updating.
StankFiss said:
normal for bionic since ICS and JB...go with a rom or de-odexed...
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Any recommendations on a ROM? Is there a stock Bionic ROM that is de-odexed?
Also do you see an increase in battery life by switching to a ROM?
Thanks in advance.
As far as battery increase.. you might get a little increase. Eclipse rom has always been good. And liquid smooth. Its all trial and error. Use safestrap so you have stock rom saved. Use the the other slots to try different roms. Im using stock rom that's been de-odexed and debloated. Also have OEM extended battery 2760 mah. I consider myself a medium user. Can get me through the day no problem. BTW if you use juice defender to name one.. I don't care what anyone says .. any battery saving app out there is a joke.
Could anyone outline the merits of Kitkat roms when compared to jelly beans? How is multitasking with Kitkat?
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Nishad1982 said:
Could anyone outline the merits of Kitkat roms when compared to jelly beans? How is multitasking with Kitkat?
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Kitkat is supposed to be 17% faster than jelly bean.
Nishad1982 said:
Could anyone outline the merits of Kitkat roms when compared to jelly beans? How is multitasking with Kitkat?
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Kitkat roms are mostly based on cm and aosp, so they, apart from being faster due to improvements and support for art runtime, also have a slew of features such as pattern lockscreen upto 6 x 6, album art on lockscreen, and many more..
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Let us share some real-life experiences.
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there are many merits like others said but negative side effect is the poor battery backup no matter what rom you use , what settings or whats your usage pattern, you will surely experience faster battery drain
apart from only this everything is superior, faster and functional than earlier versions
willi9070 said:
there are many merits like others said but negative side effect is the poor battery backup no matter what rom you use , what settings or whats your usage pattern, you will surely experience faster battery drain
apart from only this everything is superior, faster and functional than earlier versions
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You have to give away the juice for performance. That's okay. But what about multitasking on KK? Is it fast? Is it lagfree?
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willi9070 said:
there are many merits like others said but negative side effect is the poor battery backup no matter what rom you use , what settings or whats your usage pattern, you will surely experience faster battery drain
apart from only this everything is superior, faster and functional than earlier versions
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I don't experience any faster battery drain than on 4.1.2 official TW rom and on newer custom JB roms. Only on TW based HarshJelly i've got slightly better battery life.
Nishad1982 said:
You have to give away the juice for performance. That's okay. But what about multitasking on KK? Is it fast? Is it lagfree?
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yes its lagfree to some extent since the hardware still remains the same
willi9070 said:
there are many merits like others said but negative side effect is the poor battery backup no matter what rom you use , what settings or whats your usage pattern, you will surely experience faster battery drain
apart from only this everything is superior, faster and functional than earlier versions
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Well I've actually always experienced a very good battery backup with KK comparing to the old 4.1.2 stock I had, which was also very laggy.. Of course with some roms (I'm seeing it on PAC man) you will get lower battery life according to the optimization/weight of the system itself.
CBatta said:
Well I've actually always experienced a very good battery backup with KK comparing to the old 4.1.2 stock I had, which was also very laggy.. Of course with some roms (I'm seeing it on PAC man) you will get lower battery life according to the optimization/weight of the system itself.
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its a known and accepted fact that kitkat conumes more battery then jb roms atleast on our device no point of arguement, but yes there maybe slight variation from rom to rom as i am using beanstalk its ginving me better battery backup then other kk roms which i have earlier used
Last android version of android not mean the best.I always was changing roms.But why?Just pickup a rom which meet your needs.Even its a AOSP,you can customize it with xposed.For me, MIUI meets my needs,of course i want cpu and gpu oc on kernel for MIUI...About battery,every phone will get different results with every rom.Why? Because :
-like any battery,it become fat and this problem cant be solved by just changing rom / calibrating battery
-everyone use phone different = different tasks = different results
This is my opinion.
willi9070 said:
its a known and accepted fact that kitkat conumes more battery then jb roms atleast on our device no point of arguement,
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Based on my experience it's rather vice versa.
hannez_r said:
Based on my experience it's rather vice versa.
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everything is possible in this world
after all user experience matters if you have it that way its great
willi9070 said:
its a known and accepted fact that kitkat conumes more battery then jb roms atleast on our device no point of arguement, but yes there maybe slight variation from rom to rom as i am using beanstalk its ginving me better battery backup then other kk roms which i have earlier used
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I must say that my old 4.1.2 (ITV), the one before the december update, was very laggy/buggy and had a higher battery usage. That's a particular case of course, but it happened
CBatta said:
I must say that my old 4.1.2 (ITV), the one before the december update, was very laggy/buggy and had a higher battery usage. That's a particular case of course, but it happened
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Stock UBLPK firmware has much improved in battery performance.
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My own experienced with Carbon 4.4.3 :
Everything is smooth, performance is better than stock 4.1.2 . battery drain fast, but i always have spare battery with desktop charger so for me it's no issue..
Also i OC my GPU lil bit with novathor tweak (built in from roms) . so gaming performance significantly increase too..
For multitasking, i prefer tweaking OOM by myself to suit my needs..
Personally i'm happy with this config...
Carbon kitkat 4.4.4 by Flo008 gives awesome battery life and performance.
rajag33 said:
Carbon kitkat 4.4.4 by Flo008 gives awesome battery life and performance.
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How is multitasking? Is it good? Is it smooth?
Nishad1982 said:
How is multitasking? Is it good? Is it smooth?
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@Nishad1982 Yeah good for a bit of multitasking. But I don't understand why people worrying about multitasking in a mobile device. What they want? opening 15+ apps in the same time? I never had a need to open more than 4 or 5 apps at a time. But you really want to do heavy multitasking, then you can tweak the minfree memory values to suit your need. (lowering the minfree settings for all categories by one or two simple steps)
But always remember, we only have a device with 620+ user available ram. Good luck for your Carbon Rom experience. (BTW, a new build is released today)
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@Nishad1982 Yeah good for a bit of multitasking. But I don't understand why people worrying about multitasking in a mobile device. What they want? opening 15+ apps in the same time? I never had a need to open more than 4 or 5 apps at a time. But you really want to do heavy multitasking, then you can tweak the minfree memory values to suit your need. (lowering the minfree settings for all categories by one or two simple steps)
But always remember, we only have a device with 620+ user available ram. Good luck for your Carbon Rom experience. (BTW, a new build is released today)
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A bit of multitasking that all I need. I do not want my Dialer lag when I need to make an urgent call while doing other things like browsing.
And 620 MB is a huge RAM for a phone.
Hi guys im looking for kernel with the best battery life, which one would you recommend for me? Also how's your battery life on oos 4.5.1?
There we go, another "what's best" thread.
The most accurate answer is you have to test it for yourself. Everyone has different usage patterns.
I won't send my usage screen since I never drain my battery to 0%.
Boeffla, ElementalX, franco, Flash... there are few of them. Just look them up, download, flash and test.
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There we go, another "what's best" thread.
The most accurate answer is you have to test it for yourself. Everyone has different usage patterns.
I won't send my usage screen since I never drain my battery to 0%.
Boeffla, ElementalX, franco, Flash... there are few of them. Just look them up, download, flash and test.
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That's what I want to do but maybe someone has tested already ?
In my view,
1) Franco kernel is the best if you use your phone not for the full day because practically I do not see any drain of battery in sleep mode.
2) Blu spark kernel is the best if you want to customize the clock frequency as it is compatible with Kernel adioter app which is free. In Franco as well as in Elemental you have pay for their compatible app.
3) ElementalX kernel is the best, if you use your phone daily, then you can customize the clock frequency and other stuff in aroma installation while flashing.
Now, it is up to you to choose.
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That's what I want to do but maybe someone has tested already
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There are already so many threads like this. We don't need another. That was why he said "another" best kernel thread.
Expected others to do the testing for you is pointless. There are too many variables regarding how you as an individual use the device. So testing under your particular usage conditions is the only reliable indicator.