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How come people aren't talking about this? Would I be able to root if the bootloader is unlocked?
BaconDrips said:
How come people aren't talking about this? Would I be able to root if the bootloader is unlocked?
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The popular carriers like AT&T and VZW don't allow it - so that prevents a large group from doing it.
Cause most carrier phones don't have their option to unlock the boot loader. But yes if you do unluck the boot loader you can root. But you can also root without unlocking thanks to jcase's pwnmymoto root method.
BaconDrips said:
How come people aren't talking about this? Would I be able to root if the bootloader is unlocked?
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Most people aren't talking about it because I guess they figure you know whether or not you bought a phone that could be unlocked. If you are bootloader unlocked then yes - you just flash su.zip in cwm or twrp and you are good to go.
So if you are on Sprint or T-mobile, US Cellular or international go for it.
Unlocking the bootloader voids warranties as well...doing it through the website makes that void permanent whereas if you did it without the website you can still have your phone go through the warranty process as long as you unroot and relock the bootloader. that's what i love about the nexus devices
Ugh!!!
Glad I ran into this. I was going through the process to unlock my XT1080M on the site...looks like I'm waiting for the non-Chinese path.
Radio2006 said:
Glad I ran into this. I was going through the process to unlock my XT1080M on the site...looks like I'm waiting for the non-Chinese path.
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There's no 'non Chinese' path for Verizon phones. Unless you have a developer edition
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Droyyd said:
Unlocking the bootloader voids warranties as well...doing it through the website makes that void permanent whereas if you did it without the website you can still have your phone go through the warranty process as long as you unroot and relock the bootloader. that's what i love about the nexus devices
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While this may be true for Nexus devices, it doesn't apply to the Moto X.
The Moto X bootloader has 3 states:
Locked, Unlocked, and Re-Locked
Once you have unlocked, if you subsequently re-lock, the status changes to "Re-Locked". You can NEVER get it back to "Locked". So regardless of whether you get your code from the official Moto Unlock site or the Middleman, they still know that you had unlocked previously. There is no way around this...
rocketsaucev2 said:
There's no 'non Chinese' path for Verizon phones. Unless you have a developer edition
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Hence the reason I am waiting.
Radio2006 said:
Hence the reason I am waiting.
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Waiting for what?
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Radio2006 said:
Hence the reason I am waiting.
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rocketsaucev2 said:
Waiting for what?
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Exactly! I'm not sure what he is waiting for. An BL unlock exploit to come along? Dan Rosenburg (author of the Razr M Bootloader exploit) has said himself that it is extremely unlikely that a new Moto BL unlock exploit will EVER come along.
@Radio2006 : The "china" method could end tomorrow. It is 99.999% sure to be the ONLY way you will ever get unlocked. If being unlocked is important you, I would urge you not to wait.
Its China method quick, before it ends again....maybe for good....
Or it won't happen. The bootloader won't be "cracked". If it could be, it would be by now.
I'd get in on the China method, or accept a life of no proper root for your device. And no developer made updates after the X stops getting official updates.
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Exactly! I'm not sure what he is waiting for. An BL unlock exploit to come along? Dan Rosenburg (author of the Razr M Bootloader exploit) has said himself that it is extremely unlikely that a new Moto BL unlock exploit will EVER come along.
@Radio2006 : The "china" method could end tomorrow. It is 99.999% sure to be the ONLY way you will ever get unlocked. If being unlocked is important you, I would urge you not to wait.
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Hey, gee thanks guys. I didn't know that. The China method has already shut down according to an XDA post that I read earlier. So I was hoping that something would occur later.
Radio2006 said:
Hey, gee thanks guys. I didn't know that. The China method has already shut down according to an XDA post that I read earlier. So I was hoping that something would occur later.
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It closed earlier this year, then reopened a couple months later. It is still available now. Find the thread titled "China Middleman Back?" Thread.
Good luck!
You rock bro...just sent the payment. Thanks again.
BaconDrips said:
How come people aren't talking about this? Would I be able to root if the bootloader is unlocked?
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I think only developer phones can be unlocked.
dhru1405 said:
I think only developer phones can be unlocked.
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Nope. Lots of moto x variations can be unlocked. And they all can do anything a dev edition can do, except keep their warranty.
What is the past of least resistance to root a 4.4 tmo X? In order to keep data, is it still that insanely long process?
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WIth the T-Mobile variant you have two choices to root..
1. Unlock bootloader, flash twrp recovery, boot into twrp and install SU (or use TWRP's option to root). But this voids your warranty (since you don't have the developer edition), and unlocking the boot loader will wipe your device and data.
2. Use SlapMyMoto which has a lot of manual steps, and you need to reboot to "recovery" (well its modified and you don't have recovery), when you want R/W ability. (Or you have to also do the MotoWpNoMo process to gain R/W full time). But this has many steps.
KidJoe said:
WIth the T-Mobile variant you have two choices to root..
1. Unlock bootloader, flash twrp recovery, boot into twrp and install SU (or use TWRP's option to root). But this voids your warranty (since you don't have the developer edition), and unlocking the boot loader will wipe your device and data.
2. Use SlapMyMoto which has a lot of manual steps, and you need to reboot to "recovery" (well its modified and you don't have recovery), when you want R/W ability. (Or you have to also do the MotoWpNoMo process to gain R/W full time). But this has many steps.
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thanks - re #1, will upgrades be painful i.e., new OTAs?
km8j said:
thanks - re #1, will upgrades be painful i.e., new OTAs?
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OTA's will be more painful with #2 as there will be more to restore to stock. And of course the unknowns of if the new OTA will be rootable or not, and how long before a root process comes out.
For #1, you should be able to just put stock recovery back and take the OTA, then reflash TWRP and re-root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2556400
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Just following up. There is still no easy root method right?
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km8j said:
Just following up. There is still no easy root method right?
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Can't be any easier than unlocking your bootloader ,flash recovery and install superuser. 3 simple steps from my perspective
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flashallthetime said:
Can't be any easier than unlocking your bootloader ,flash recovery and install superuser. 3 simple steps from my perspective
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Unless u have Dev. Edition u cannot unlock boot loader.. I'm on 4.4 and I am fully rooted.
Slapped my Moto
xpsychox said:
Unless u have Dev. Edition u cannot unlock boot loader.. I'm on 4.4 and I am fully rooted.
Slapped my Moto
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You can unlock the Sprint & Tmo version. No dev edition required.
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Same with Rogers, only versions that can't unlock are Verizon and AT&T consumer version
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quickstang said:
You can unlock the Sprint & Tmo version. No dev edition required.
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I knew u couldn't do on at and Verizon...but he also never said what he had..not that I saw
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and what if you have the T-Mobile Moto X, haven't got the email to unlock bootloader and you can't get adb to recognize device?
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and what if you have the T-Mobile Moto X, haven't got the email to unlock bootloader and you can't get adb to recognize device?
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There was another thread about this... Guy said he used a new gmail account and got email
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Just bumping to see if there are any new reasonable ways of rooting kitkat?
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km8j said:
Just bumping to see if there are any new reasonable ways of rooting kitkat?
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Well, if you don't have an unlocked bootloader, SlapMyMoto (which now incorporates the MotoWpNoMo process into its steps) is the only way (there have been some efforts to consolidate/automate the process). And may not be usable if you're already on 4.4.2 (taking the 4.4.2 OTA update or flashing the full 4.4.2 SBF prevents you from flashing older ROMs which is a crucial step in using SlapMyMoto).
I've not see a 4.4.2 specific root process for locked bootloaders yet, but to be honest, I have a unlocked bootloader, so I haven't been completely paying attention.
If you have an unlocked bootloader, root process is still the same.
there is not going to be any new way to root 4.4 is not going to get a new exploit because 4.4.2 is out and Devs are working on finding a way to root it so the people with locked bootloaders can update.
if you want to root your device you have allready been giving the only 2 ways to do it
Locked bootloader - SlapMyMoto
Unlocked bootloader - Customer Recovery and SUPERSU
please dont bump your thread for info you allready have.
here is a link to both guides for both methods and a guide for unlocking your bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
Hello all.
Ok, I have read all the posts/threads for rooting and am still confused as each thread links to another which links to another, which changes another ,etc. Need proper organization of threads it looks like.
Anyway, I just received the GSM Unlocked MOTO X (NOT DEV ED.) for TMO or ATT.
How do I root? Again, I have read the threads and am terribly confused. I have the 4.2.2 software and have NOT updated to any OTA.
Can someone clearly highlight the steps I should be taking?
Am not a noob and currently own N5 and S4 Dev Edition.
Thanks!
ditto
I am also confused, do I download the pwnmymoto for the att or tmobile version? Just got my moto x today.
markwebb said:
Hello all.
Ok, I have read all the posts/threads for rooting and am still confused as each thread links to another which links to another, which changes another ,etc. Need proper organization of threads it looks like.
Anyway, I just received the GSM Unlocked MOTO X (NOT DEV ED.) for TMO or ATT.
How do I root? Again, I have read the threads and am terribly confused. I have the 4.2.2 software and have NOT updated to any OTA.
Can someone clearly highlight the steps I should be taking?
Am not a noob and currently own N5 and S4 Dev Edition.
Thanks!
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RockMyMoto
then, MotoWpNoMo to keep root as w/o you have a "temp" root, or tethered, if that is the correct term. AKA, reboots/shutdowns can trip it back to stock w/o root.
so are these phones the x1053 or x1058?
buschris said:
so are these phones the x1053 or x1058?
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X1053
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TKTAB911 said:
RockMyMoto
then, MotoWpNoMo to keep root as w/o you have a "temp" root, or tethered, if that is the correct term. AKA, reboots/shutdowns can trip it back to stock w/o root.
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Thanks... then can I take the ota to kit Kat 4.4 or will I lose root? I did unlock bootloader BTW.
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markwebb said:
Thanks... then can I take the ota to kit Kat 4.4 or will I lose root? I did unlock bootloader BTW.
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I am thinking of unlocking mine as well, and I am on 4.4 already, just got the phone today.
Not sure if I should unlock, it will be my daughters phone and I'll probably need the warranty
markwebb said:
Thanks... then can I take the ota to kit Kat 4.4 or will I lose root? I did unlock bootloader BTW.
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Since you've unlocked the bootloader, follow the root directions for the dev edition. What you're doing is wholly unnecessary.
Unlock bootloader, download latest CWMR or TWRP and SuperSu, then fastboot (or mfastboot) flash recovery, boot into recovery, adb push supersu.zip /sdcard, flash in recovery. Done.
buschris said:
I am thinking of unlocking mine as well, and I am on 4.4 already, just got the phone today.
Not sure if I should unlock, it will be my daughters phone and I'll probably need the warranty
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I'd start with root without unlocking.
nhizzat said:
Since you've unlocked the bootloader, follow the root directions for the dev edition. What you're doing is wholly unnecessary.
Unlock bootloader, download latest CWMR or TWRP and SuperSu, then fastboot (or mfastboot) flash recovery, boot into recovery, adb push supersu.zip /sdcard, flash in recovery. Done.
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Thanks..that is what I was looking for. So, should I update to OTA first since I am unlocked, or root now per dev edition instruction? If so, then how would I take the OTA if I am on custom recovery? Is there a zip of the OTA?
Thanks again!
markwebb said:
Thanks..that is what I was looking for. So, should I update to OTA first since I am unlocked, or root now per dev edition instruction? If so, then how would I take the OTA if I am on custom recovery? Is there a zip of the OTA?
Thanks again!
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You should take the 4.4 OTA first. In order to take the OTA you need to have stock recovery. Once you take the OTA then you can flash a customer recovery and flash a super user app through it.
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Dark9781 said:
You should take the 4.4 OTA first. In order to take the OTA you need to have stock recovery. Once you take the OTA then you can flash a customer recovery and flash a super user app through it.
Sent from my Moto X on KitKat
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From current experiences with other devices, that is exactly what I did. I am now updated to 4.4, with custom recovery and root!
Thanks guys...shame this isn't in an updated simple "how to" thread
markwebb said:
Thanks guys...shame this isn't in an updated simple "how to" thread
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It isn't difficult at all. People seem to be easily confused and make things more complicated than necessary.
markwebb said:
From current experiences with other devices, that is exactly what I did. I am now updated to 4.4, with custom recovery and root!
Thanks guys...shame this isn't in an updated simple "how to" thread
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Rooting with an unlocked bootloader is perhaps the easiest thing to do. You know this from past experience so why would it be any different with the Moto X?
The real challenge is when you want to root with a locked bootloader (and even that is becoming gradually easier).
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Rooting with an unlocked bootloader is perhaps the easiest thing to do. You know this from past experience so why would it be any different with the Moto X?
The real challenge is when you want to root with a locked bootloader (and even that is becoming gradually easier).
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Correct.
But i began the process with a locked bootloader and getting to the answer/correct path was a challenge in these threads compared to other threads.
So I took the plunge and unlocked.
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Hey guys, has anybody achieved root on the spanking new XT1052 the European variant of the Moto X?
I tried getting the bootloader unlocked from Moto support site and apparently the device was not up for bootloader unlocking.. Bumer
Would the XT1053 root methods work? I'm a semi Noob so I'd rather ask before I do something stupid.
Thanks in advance people.
I believe that phone shipped with version 4.4.2, which means the only way to gain root(at this time) is by unlocking the bootloader.
Steve-x said:
I believe that phone shipped with version 4.4.2, which means the only way to gain root(at this time) is by unlocking the bootloader.
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Once you unlock the bootloader how do you gain root?
I had no problems unlocking my XT1052. Are you sure you put the string together correctly?
drago10029 said:
Once you unlock the bootloader how do you gain root?
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Flash a custom recovery (TWRP or CWM) via fastboot and then flash SuperSu zip. There are numerous guides how to do this exactly.
Thats the thing, i get the unlocking data when i paste it in the required feild to get an email to unlock the bootloader, it says my bootloader is not qualified for unlocking?
jniklast said:
I had no problems unlocking my XT1052. Are you sure you put the string together correctly?
Flash a custom recovery (TWRP or CWM) via fastboot and then flash SuperSu zip. There are numerous guides how to do this exactly.
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actually i just checked i didnt paste the string right, now i unlocked the bootloader! yay
jniklast said:
I had no problems unlocking my XT1052. Are you sure you put the string together correctly?
Flash a custom recovery (TWRP or CWM) via fastboot and then flash SuperSu zip. There are numerous guides how to do this exactly.
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I checked the info thread but it didn't say if the process worked for 4.4.2, I found out once bootloader is unlocked you can flash as needed. Thanks for the response!
All the guides about installing custom recovery after unlocking the bootloader posted here are for 4.4. Are they applicable to 4.4.2 also?
DaRkRhiNe said:
All the guides about installing custom recovery after unlocking the bootloader posted here are for 4.4. Are they applicable to 4.4.2 also?
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Yes. Just have the proper custom recovery.
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DaRkRhiNe said:
All the guides about installing custom recovery after unlocking the bootloader posted here are for 4.4. Are they applicable to 4.4.2 also?
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This guide -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738 says its for 4.4 and 4.4.2... (and yes, it works.)
Hi, I have a sprint Moto X on 4.4. I haven't unlocked the bootloader or rooted anything because I haven't felt the need to but since 4.4.2 came out it keeps nagging me to update but I don't want to loose my chance to root so I figured now would be a good time to root it. I've looked around the forums but haven't seen a guide specifically for the Sprint Moto X root for 4.4. What is the process to root my phone? Once I do I can just disable the moto ota app and I'll stop getting the notifications to update right?
Thanks
Edit: Also, is it possible (and a good idea) to flash a stock 4.4.2 rom and keep root?
If you unlock your bootloader, rooting is simple by flashing twrp.
If you want to leave your bootloader locked, you need to use safestrap and all that other stuff. Much more work.
Its all in the stickied complete guide to Moto x. Or in the dev threads. Doesn't matter if you are sprint. You want the locked bootloader method, or unlocked method....depending what you decide.
Lots of info in the sticky in general.
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kj2112 said:
If you unlock your bootloader, rooting is simple by flashing twrp.
If you want to leave your bootloader locked, you need to use safestrap and all that other stuff. Much more work.
Its all in the stickied complete guide to Moto x. Or in the dev threads. Doesn't matter if you are sprint. You want the locked bootloader method, or unlocked method....depending what you decide.
Lots of info in the sticky in general.
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I don't have a warranty on the phone so are their any cons to unlocking the bootloader?
I looked at the complete guide and it seems pretty straightforward.
My last question. Is there a way I can upgrade to stock 4.4.2 after unlocking and rooting? I don't want a rom with a bunch of changes and unneeded features.
Rayz321 said:
I don't have a warranty on the phone so are their any cons to unlocking the bootloader?
I looked at the complete guide and it seems pretty straightforward.
My last question. Is there a way I can upgrade to stock 4.4.2 after unlocking and rooting? I don't want a rom with a bunch of changes and unneeded features.
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If you unlock the bootloader, the only con is warranty. Everything else is a pro.
4.4.2 can be rooted just as simply as any other version, if your bootloader is unlocked. So the easiest thing to do is do the 4.4.2 OTA for your phone, then root after upgrading. Or flash 4.4.2 manually if the files are available yet.
Keep in mind, unlocking the bootloader will completely wipe your phone.
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Rayz321 said:
I don't have a warranty on the phone so are their any cons to unlocking the bootloader?
I looked at the complete guide and it seems pretty straightforward.
My last question. Is there a way I can upgrade to stock 4.4.2 after unlocking and rooting? I don't want a rom with a bunch of changes and unneeded features.
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there is one Con like said and that is the warranty but i could care less because being able to root any version of android is a huge plus side i would really unlock your bootloader
dray_jr said:
there is one Con like said and that is the warranty but i could care less because being able to root any version of android is a huge plus side i would really unlock your bootloader
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I'm unlocking my bootloader now.
Once it's done I just update to 4.4.2 and flash twrp?
Thanks for all the helps guys.
Yup.
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Yup.
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Thanks so much, I got everything working!
Is there an way that I can stop the warning bootloader unlocked screen from coming up on every boot?
Rayz321 said:
Thanks so much, I got everything working!
Is there an way that I can stop the warning bootloader unlocked screen from coming up on every boot?
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Awesome!
Look in themes and apps section. There's a few threads with different boot screens and instructions.
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