Anyone figure out how to have a lock screen and use touchless controls... you know... touchless? Giant gaping hole by Moto.
Whoa - documentation here https://motorola-global-portal.cust...a_id/94881/p/30,6720,8696/action/auth#privacy
This implies we have the ability to do this but I'm not seeing the setting anywhere???
How do I use Touchless Control with the lock screen?
Touchless Control now includes two new features to make using Touchless Control with the lock screen easier. The first is voice pin entry. If you use a numeric pin code you will be prompted by Touchless Control when you encounter the lock screen to speak your pin. Simply say your pin code to unlock the phone to complete your request. The second feature is to allow the Google application to run in front of the lock screen without needing to unlock the phone. This feature requires you to agree to the terms and conditions before you use it. Enabling the feature can be done by agreeing to the notification or turning the feature on manually within Settings -> Touchless Control
Using Open Mic+ seems to be a viable alternative. Does it use the low power core from Moto though?
km8j said:
Anyone figure out how to have a lock screen and use touchless controls... you know... touchless? Giant gaping hole by Moto.
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It's a necessity that it will not work as you want it if you secure your phone (there's really no way to have your phone be secure and has full access to the touchless controls). Your best bet is to buy something like a Cobra Tag alarm and use it as a trusted bluetooth. Turn it on/carry it with you whenever you don't want to have to unlock your phone. I use my car's bluetooth to keep my phone unlocked while driving. It works great because you can wake the phone up and tell google now to navigate somewhere or ask about the traffic all without touching your phone. I think the trusted bluetooth is another great feature that Motorola included that separates it from other phones out there currently.
I've also been beta testing the new SkipLock app for it's developer. It allows you to disable the lock screen when you're connected to trusted wifi points like at home and work. I've been using it a couple days and it has been working well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2523069
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I've also been beta testing the new SkipLock app for it's developer. It allows you to disable the lock screen when you're connected to trusted wifi points like at home and work. I've been using it a couple days and it has been working well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2523069
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Egh this doesnt really solve issue because you could be at the office all day long. You dont want your phone unlocked there.
km8j said:
Egh this doesnt really solve issue because you could be at the office all day long. You dont want your phone unlocked there.
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NFC tag on your desk?
shempmalone said:
NFC tag on your desk?
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still too many use cases where this doesn't apply...
moto missed the ball here. this should be user changeable option. there is no security concern here. you dont have to give someone access to the messaging app, just send the damn message.
I use tasker + secure settings to keep my phone unlocked when within range of both my work or home wifi. I feel secure enough at work that I'm not too worried about having it unlocked. Anything extremely sensitive is locked up anyway. I also use my truck's BT as a trusted device which keeps it unlocked there as well.
So basically my phone is unlocked unless i"m not in my normal places.
Dmtalon said:
I use tasker + secure settings to keep my phone unlocked when within range of both my work or home wifi. I feel secure enough at work that I'm not too worried about having it unlocked. Anything extremely sensitive is locked up anyway. I also use my truck's BT as a trusted device which keeps it unlocked there as well.
So basically my phone is unlocked unless i"m not in my normal places.
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Did you follow any specific Tasker guide on how to set that up? I have tried setting it up and haven't have much luck.
I have however just tried Skipunlock and it works well on my Moto X with 4.2.2.
Provided I can get it to work properly, I would rather use Tasker so that I can set it up to unlock when "near" a wifi network rather than being connected.
mechanical tool said:
Did you follow any specific Tasker guide on how to set that up? I have tried setting it up and haven't have much luck.
I have however just tried Skipunlock and it works well on my Moto X with 4.2.2.
Provided I can get it to work properly, I would rather use Tasker so that I can set it up to unlock when "near" a wifi network rather than being connected.
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I've been using this setup for a while. I'm sure I didn't just figure it out but saw it somewhere but I don't have any idea where. The only gotchya is that with 4.4 you need to use the beta version of secure settings.
I use pattern lock, so I just create a task when connected to wifi to disable pattern lock. Secure Settings does need to have the 'helper app' installed too.
mechanical tool said:
Did you follow any specific Tasker guide on how to set that up? I have tried setting it up and haven't have much luck.
I have however just tried Skipunlock and it works well on my Moto X with 4.2.2.
Provided I can get it to work properly, I would rather use Tasker so that I can set it up to unlock when "near" a wifi network rather than being connected.
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Here's the two Tasker projects I've been using to unlock my device while connected to a "safe" Wifi network. One of the projects maintains a set of variables that can be used as states or referenced within tasks. The other project handles the locking and unlocking, and depends on the first project. It's was working fine on my Galaxy Nexus for a long time, and appears to work fine on the Moto X as well.
There's a lot in the "states" project that's not needed for locking/unlocking, but it comes in handy for other things. You can probably just change the "Wifi Connected" state to a "Wifi Near" in the myTRUSTEDWIFI profile, and get rid of the Wait action and uncheck the "if" box in the remaining action in the exit task.
Yes!!!! New version of touchless control fixes this!!!
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I thought a while back I saw an application on the Market that would enable or disable the lock screen based on what SSIDs the device could see. I thought this would be a good idea for my Android devices, since I'm usually either at home or at work, and both places have WiFi. It would be bothersome to have to enter a lock code every time I want to use a device, but would be great to require that if I'm away from home.
I know I saw an app that does this, but for the life of me, I cannot find it!
Edit: Should clarify, it doesn't disable the lock screen, it disables the passcode - basically when it sees particular SSIDs, it disables the passcode. Then when you're not in range of those SSIDs, the passcode is required.
Yep, I was looking for this too and found your post. Then I remembered something I'd seen before:
www.symonds.id.au/marcopolo/
There's a link on that page for a modified version of it for Snow Leopard, you'll need to get it if you want to lock/unlock your PC based on your AP's MAC/essid and run 10.6.
Let us know how well it works for you! I'm using it for a simple case: keeping my computer locked at work, unlocked at home.
Ok so I have a strange setup that I would like to get working on my MotoX. I have delayed lock installed on my phone because I hate having to input the code every time I pick it up but I need some security on it. Right now I have it lock after 3 minutes of inactivity. So if I'm working on something or texting someone it doesn't keep locking on me. I would like to add the wifi plugin so that my phone will stay unlocked when I am at home. When I am enjoying media at home on my chromecast/roku/bluetooth speaker it is annoying to have to enter the code to make changes. I know netflix and certain apps display the basic controls on the lockscreen but my roku remote app for example would be nice. I can't just leave the phone unlocked whenever it is within range of my WiFi however. I have roomates and a completely vulnerable phone is just asking for trouble. What I would ultimately like to be able to do is have delayed lock keep the lockscreen off when I am on my wifi and activate another app that will password protect certain apps so that I can access the basics while protecting important things like my messages, photos, etc. When i leave home and disconnect from my wifi I would like the lockscreen to engage again via delayed lock but also the individual app codes to turn off as well as i don't want to have to enter two codes to get to my stuff. I know there is probably a way to achieve this but I haven't found a clean way to do it. I understand the best way to do it might be tasker, but I don't have any experience working with tasker.
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the Network to 2G when you get home. I am having trouble getting phone calls at home with WIFI on and LTE enabled. There is some kind of issue with some phones that seems to send phone calls directly to voicemail when you have bot WIFI and LTE enabled at the same time. I have never used Tasker, would that be possible to set up this way? Do you guys know of any app that will do that automatically. Thanks in advance for help or feedback.
Tasker?
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Tasker?
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It looks like learning tasker would be my best bet to do what I need. I have been reading up and watching some videos on tasker and it is an amazing tool. A lot to learn but for the simple tasks that I want it sholuld not be to hard to setup. Thanks for the reply
Tasker won't switch your lte on and off with the stock Rom, but it will control WiFi and Bluetooth, and you will be able to set up a location based profile to do it automatically.
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Tasker won't switch your lte on and off with the stock Rom, but it will control WiFi and Bluetooth, and you will be able to set up a location based profile to do it automatically.
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Okay, I have been looking over Tasker, it does so much it quickly intimitades new users like me lol. Thanks that answers my question and I appreciate your post.
I had the same problem with Tasker. Even with some of the tutorials, they steps they used must have been for an older version as they didn't even match what I was seeing on the screen.
If you want to try a much simpler interface try out Locale. Its the same concept, but the interface is a LOT easier to understand for newcomers. I have mine set using location to turn on WiFi/off BT/set ringers to 10% volume/check into FourSquare when I get to work, turn on BT/off WiFi/Open Google Listen & GasBuddy when I get in the car and such. Most of the plug-ins you can use with Tasker can also be used with Locale too.
However, I suspect what you are wanting to do would require a plug-in as it is a sort of advanced procedure but maybe if you find some app that will allow turning off 4G, you could at least have it open the app or toggle to turn it on and off as you leave home - if you can't have it happen automatically.
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maybe if you find some app that will allow turning off 4G, you could at least have it open the app or toggle to turn it on and off as you leave home - if you can't have it happen automatically.
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My understanding is that Google, since Jelly Bean, has pulled the API's for turning off radios and GPS (just as they have with battery stats in 4.4) in the interest of more secure devices. So without root, and in some cases something other than the stock rom, programmatical access to these settings is no longer possible.
fish1552 said:
I had the same problem with Tasker. Even with some of the tutorials, they steps they used must have been for an older version as they didn't even match what I was seeing on the screen.
If you want to try a much simpler interface try out Locale. Its the same concept, but the interface is a LOT easier to understand for newcomers. I have mine set using location to turn on WiFi/off BT/set ringers to 10% volume/check into FourSquare when I get to work, turn on BT/off WiFi/Open Google Listen & GasBuddy when I get in the car and such. Most of the plug-ins you can use with Tasker can also be used with Locale too.
However, I suspect what you are wanting to do would require a plug-in as it is a sort of advanced procedure but maybe if you find some app that will allow turning off 4G, you could at least have it open the app or toggle to turn it on and off as you leave home - if you can't have it happen automatically.
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Thanks I will check out Loacle and see if I can figure out anything.
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My understanding is that Google, since Jelly Bean, has pulled the API's for turning off radios and GPS (just as they have with battery stats in 4.4) in the interest of more secure devices. So without root, and in some cases something other than the stock rom, programmatical access to these settings is no longer possible.
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Okay, that may be part of my trouble no root yet. This is the first phone I have not rooted since coming to android. I probably should have gotten the Dev Moto but I was stubborn and wanted to pick my design:silly:
Tasker should be able to do some of what you need, but as others have mentioned you will at the very least need root to get it working.
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My understanding is that Google, since Jelly Bean, has pulled the API's for turning off radios and GPS (just as they have with battery stats in 4.4) in the interest of more secure devices. So without root, and in some cases something other than the stock rom, programmatical access to these settings is no longer possible.
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On the stock Moto X (XT-1053) you can turn GPS on/off via Tasker without root or using Secure Settings. It was a delight to see this, and not get the GPS nag screens I've previously gotten on a SGS3 (Verizon). Would have to play around, but you might be able to execute an activity or shortcut in Tasker that brings up the settings screen where you can choose 2G data and then script a screen tap in just the right place. Essentially automating the actions you'd take doing it manually. Not as pretty as a direct setting, but Tasker can execute this kind of thing very fast so it's of little bother to see it flash by on your screen.
Not on mine!
http://solutionsetcetera.com/stuff/Screenshot_2013-12-25-04-34-39.png
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Not on mine!
http://solutionsetcetera.com/stuff/Screenshot_2013-12-25-04-34-39.png
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Hmm, that does it for me. I think I will give in to the desire to get root and maybe than I can use Tasker for what I need. Thanks for the input:good:
NFC tags?
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Not on mine!
http://solutionsetcetera.com/stuff/Screenshot_2013-12-25-04-34-39.png
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Which vendor version of the Moto X are you using? Would be in character for a vendor like Verizon to neuter a useful feature.
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Which vendor version of the Moto X are you using?
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T-Mobile. But I see the same behavior on my Nexus devices. As the dialog I posted states, this is an Android imposed limitation.
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T-Mobile. But I see the same behavior on my Nexus devices. As the dialog I posted states, this is an Android imposed limitation.
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OK - Just made a task which turns on GPS waits several seconds and turns it off. Verified it was actually on/off when it said it was on. I'm running 4.2.2. My son "upgraded" to 4.4 on his Moto X, and Tasker GPS manipulation doesn't work on his. I didn't root, and verified as much with root checker, so it seems this is an "upgraded" feature in 4.4.
I'd consider rooting, but do like some of the Moto rom features so don't really want to move to an alternate rom & not wild about losing warranty. Maybe a little off topic, but if you root 4.2.2 and latter upgrade to some 4.4.x release, will you end up losing root?
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OK - Just made a task which turns on GPS waits several seconds and turns it off. Verified it was actually on/off when it said it was on. I'm running 4.2.2. My son "upgraded" to 4.4 on his Moto X, and Tasker GPS manipulation doesn't work on his. I didn't root, and verified as much with root checker, so it seems this is an "upgraded" feature in 4.4.
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Interesting... My recollection is this was disabled under JB on my Nexus 4. I didn't have 4.2.2 on my Moto X long enough to test.
Can you toggle airplane mode using tasker?
Off topic for here but a quick question. Would this be a good root quide to use. It seems pretty straightforward to understand and do. http://theunlockr.com/2013/12/11/root-motorola-moto-x-running-android-4-4-kitkat/ That site has been around and I think it is reputable but wanted to check.
Dunno, but I am not sure you're gonna be able to toggle LTE even if rooted. At least the description of Secure Settings suggests you can't without a custom rom.
If you turn off mobile data, does that solve your incoming call issue?
Is there a way to enable NFC when screen is off ?
Xposed had some modules that did this but could not find another solution
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Is there a way to enable NFC when screen is off ?
Xposed had some modules that did this but could not find another solution
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+1
A dev should be able to whip something up sooner or later.
No.
aalupatti said:
Is there a way to enable NFC when screen is off ?
Xposed had some modules that did this but could not find another solution
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Unfortunately:cyclops:, they consider that a security issue. So unless you use a hack, you are SOOL.
I suppose it is a bit of a risk but the range of NFC is so limited. Too small to penetrate one's pocket or read from a distance. The only thing I used it for was in the car to toggle WiFi and Bluetooth which kicked off a chain reaction to start/stop Pandora streaming. Now I have to wakeup the phone first to scan NFC and connect BT. Not that big an inconvenience but I did like the option.
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I guess its only a matter of time before a Dev figures this out.
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Or someone fixes xposed for art.
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Unfortunately:cyclops:, they consider that a security issue. So unless you use a hack, you are SOOL.
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It's no more a security risk than being able to enable "Ok Google" when the screen is locked. Not being able to to use NFC when the screen is locked has always annoyed me and was glad Xposed allowed me to do it with KitKat, alas no more. Even my work Blackberry, any current BB10 model and supposedly the most secure of the OSes, allows me to enable NFC when not locked.
Lost in translation?
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It's no more a security risk than being able to enable "Ok Google" when the screen is locked. Not being able to to use NFC when the screen is unlocked has always annoyed me and was glad Xposed allowed me to do it with KitKat, alas no more. Even my work Blackberry, any current BB10 model and supposedly the most secure of the OSes, allows me to enable NFC when not locked.
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We are not talking about being able to enable NFC when the screen is not locked. We are talking about having NFC enabled, and the device is sleeping with screen off, not being able to have NFC detect tags or what not without first turning screen on then also unlocking the device. I think you know this but just must of typed it wrong. If not, NFC works great with screen on once past the lock screen. I never disable NFC, I use it the same as the previous post. Getting in car, turns on bluetooth and then launches Pandora and GPS.
With the new Android Auto app and a supporting head unit, all you have to do when you get in your car is plug your phone into a USB port and everything else is automatic. Yeah, one great thing about Nexus 6 and mobile hands free tech.
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We are not talking about being able to enable NFC when the screen is not locked. We are talking about having NFC enabled, and the device is sleeping with screen off, not being able to have NFC detect tags or what not without first turning screen on then also unlocking the device. I think you know this but just must of typed it wrong. If not, NFC works great with screen on once past the lock screen. I never disable NFC, I use it the same as the previous post. Getting in car, turns on bluetooth and then launches Pandora and GPS.
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You're correct, it's a miss-type and I wrote "unlocked" instead of "locked" - corrected.
I too also always keep NFC enabled, but having to unlock the phone is a real nuisance, thankfully as I also keep Bluetooth on now I can set my in-car to be a trusted device that disables the lock, so once the the connection is made I know I can just tap the phone without worrying. But now I don't even do that as I get Tasker to detect the connection and do it for me
I'm bumping the hell outa this thread. Just bought 20 of my first NFC tags to use various places just to find out NFC is disabled when the screen is off!? Mega-fail.
Anyone find any way to do this or is there a ROM that supports this yet that anyone knows of?
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I'm bumping the hell outa this thread. Just bought 20 of my first NFC tags to use various places just to find out NFC is disabled when the screen is off!? Mega-fail.
Anyone find any way to do this or is there a ROM that supports this yet that anyone knows of?
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i just wake up the device with s2w and then use NFC for various actions including unlocking the screen ( i use a pw due to exchange enforcement )
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Anyone have any luck getting this working?
I've tried the Xposed module and can't seem to get screen off detection working.
I'm on 5.1.1 (LMY48I)...
Im in the same boat as Jazic... any updates here?
no way?
You would think this functionality would be natively inherent...
This should be at least a quasi-option.
Like you should be able to enable NFC while screen is asleep to a white-listed tag, and be able to set it to wake up screen or not, and be able to unlock phone or not.
So long as a white-list is required it's not a security risk.
It would also be cool to be able to set up app specific UI macros to initiate from NFC.
The goal: if my phone is connected to my car (and the car is turned on), unlock it automatically.
I keep a spare phone in my car connected to Android Auto (and hidden) so I don't have to keep plugging in my more expensive phone daily. Since it is also connected to my carrier and google accounts, I lock the phone. I have SmartUnlock set to keep the phone unlocked when bluetooth is connected to my car. This works for keeping the phone unlocked once unlocked, but it does not unlock the phone. I still have to do that manually with my fingerprint or passkey. Any idea how to automatically unlock the phone when connected to the car (and the car is on)? If my car is broken into and the phone is stolen I want the phone to remain locked. I am going to take the risk that if the keys are present (thus the car is on and the phone is connected to bluetooth & via cable), it's ok to unlock the phone automatically. If someone steals my car with the phone, then I'm screwed. But I'll take that risk.
Basically here is the problem with the built-in auto-unlock (from official instructions):
Important: When you don't use your device for 4 hours, and after it restarts, you'll need to unlock it.
Which means almost every time I use my car!
I've also tried google assistant voice unlock, but that only works if I don't have another lock method in place, which is not safe.
In case it matters, the spare phone is a Moto X4 with Oreo, not rooted. I'm on Google Project Fi, which allows multiple data-only SIMs on the same account. I have my voice SIM in the Android Auto phone and a data-only SIM in my main phone that is not directly supported by Project Fi.
Maybe something like this ?
AutomateIt Pro - Automate tasks on your Android ( cant post links)
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Maybe something like this ?
AutomateIt Pro - Automate tasks on your Android ( cant post links)
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Sadly, unlocking the phone is not one of the supported actions of this app.
Did you consider a different approach? Like using AAGateway ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/ge...droid-3-0-proxy-gateway-android-auto-t3813163 ) for wireless AA connection?
It's the solution I use. I have an S4 mini running CM13 permanently connected to the car, only running AAGateway. No Google account and no other apps.
Using Automate scripts on both master and slave so AA connection starts automatically when I enter the car.
Android can do this already. Trusted Devices. Bt unlocks your phone when the trusted Bt device connects.
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Did you consider a different approach? Like using AAGateway ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/ge...droid-3-0-proxy-gateway-android-auto-t3813163 ) for wireless AA connection?
It's the solution I use. I have an S4 mini running CM13 permanently connected to the car, only running AAGateway. No Google account and no other apps.
Using Automate scripts on both master and slave so AA connection starts automatically when I enter the car.
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That's intriguing, but it doesn't solve everything I need in the spare phone.
1. The spare phone acts as a spare - if I forget or lose my phone, I can grab the spare phone from the car. Happens about once per month.
2. My main phone is not Project Fi compatible, and thus only works on LTE, no voice. I can use Hangouts Dialer to manually dial numbers for VoLTE, but that doesn't work through Android Auto. My cheap spare phone is Project Fi compatible and can dial voice via Android Auto.
3. My main phone is rooted and thus there is a thing or two it can't do - if I need to do those things, I can grab the spare phone (though admittedly playing PokemonGo is the only thing falling into that category thus far).
So the spare phone stays - I just need it to auto-unlock when I turn on the car.
Did you solve this? I have exactly the same problem. I need to have my phone unlock automatically when linked to my car bt. Not just stay unlocked, but actually unlock when connected.
pwvandeursen said:
Did you solve this? I have exactly the same problem. I need to have my phone unlock automatically when linked to my car bt. Not just stay unlocked, but actually unlock when connected.
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See the attached Tasker screenshots for how I do it. The swipe is just a swipe up to get to the password prompt screen and %PASSWORD is set as my unlock password. The steps you see there are triggered by BT Connected to my Mazda. You will need Tasker and the AutoInput plugin
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See the attached Tasker screenshots for how I do it. The swipe is just a swipe up to get to the password prompt screen and %PASSWORD is set as my unlock password. The steps you see there are triggered by BT Connected to my Mazda. You will need Tasker and the AutoInput plugin
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I configured it nearly the same now and my keyboard is gone after the task was running.
Did you find a way to set it back after the tasks stopped?
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I configured it nearly the same now and my keyboard is gone after the task was running.
Did you find a way to set it back after the tasks stopped?
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No sure what you mean? My keyboard never disappeared? Make sure you have a default input mode selected in your Android settings maybe, Tasker plugins can sometimes clear that.
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No sure what you mean? My keyboard never disappeared? Make sure you have a default input mode selected in your Android settings maybe, Tasker plugins can sometimes clear that.
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Thanks for your fast reply.
That has happend, it has cleared the seetings for my default input method.
Maybe it was an one time issue. I'll try it again later.
Mibuix0r said:
See the attached Tasker screenshots for how I do it. The swipe is just a swipe up to get to the password prompt screen and %PASSWORD is set as my unlock password. The steps you see there are triggered by BT Connected to my Mazda. You will need Tasker and the AutoInput plugin
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Thanks much! I will give this a try - once I use the car again often enough to keep the phone in it charged.
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No sure what you mean? My keyboard never disappeared? Make sure you have a default input mode selected in your Android settings maybe, Tasker plugins can sometimes clear that.
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The problem stays. If the profile runs, tasker will be set as default input method.
Is it possible to create an new task if the bluetooth connection get lost?
I've tried it with "Input" + "Choose Input Method" but I have no glue what has to be entered there.