[Q] Fuelband as a Trusted Bluetooth Device? - Moto X Q&A

So I am eagerly awaiting my Cyber Monday (Wednesday) Moto X and while doing so, I've been browsing through accessories I might want to enhance my Moto Xperience, and I really want to take advantage of the Trusted Bluetooth Device along with Touchless Controls.
I've been searching around, but I haven't been able to find a definitive answer, just off-to-the-side mentions of its use.. I have a Nike Fuelband SE that has BTLE. Nike doesn't support AndroidOS, so there's no dedicated app for it. I am, however, able to discover it with my current phone (Droid 4).
So basically, does anyone know if I will be able to use my Fuelband as a Trusted Bluetooth Device, or how I might go about doing that? I guess I could find some BL keychain if there was no way to use it.
Thanks ahead of time for your replies and help.

If your droid 4 can see it I can't see why the moto x won't. Once you connect to a Bluetooth device it will ask you if you want to make it a trusted device. If it doesn't the setting is under security. I can't see why it wouldn't work. Good luck.
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Thanks. I was concerned because it didn't actually support Android, but was hoping it could simply act as a dummy BTLE device. Got an e-mail from Fedex telling me it's arriving today so I'll test it out and come back here with what I've got

If anyone happens to be interested, the Fuelband SE isn't continuously syncing via Bluetooth to the Moto X. It pairs, and the Moto X asks if I want to make it a trusted device, but the notification tray icon never turns blue. It doesn't seem to be able to continuously sync. Too bad I was really looking forward to this.
If anyone knows a way around this, please let me know. Thanks!

iJusDefy said:
If anyone happens to be interested, the Fuelband SE isn't continuously syncing via Bluetooth to the Moto X. It pairs, and the Moto X asks if I want to make it a trusted device, but the notification tray icon never turns blue. It doesn't seem to be able to continuously sync. Too bad I was really looking forward to this.
If anyone knows a way around this, please let me know. Thanks!
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have you done any other testing? kit kat got rid of the blue theme. the icons are either orange (no connection), white (connected) or dark (disabled).

I just tried it with a bluetooth headset and the icon turns and stays white. With the Fuelband connected, it just stays sort of grayed out.

Working!
This has been pushed back due to what I assume is a lack of interest for, but in case someone else decides to figure this out or something similar to it, I have managed to get the Fuelband SE to "sync" with the Moto X and act as a Bluetooth Trusted Device.
There's an app on the Play store called "Bluetooth Auto Connect" that you can set to sync with the Fuelband (and what I assume would be any device) and it will do so automatically. The icon stays greyed out, but turning the Fuelband's BT on and off in turn pops up that Trusted Device notification on the Moto X.
I hope this helps someone else with any type of random trusted device need.
Cheers

iJusDefy said:
This has been pushed back due to what I assume is a lack of interest for, but in case someone else decides to figure this out or something similar to it, I have managed to get the Fuelband SE to "sync" with the Moto X and act as a Bluetooth Trusted Device.
There's an app on the Play store called "Bluetooth Auto Connect" that you can set to sync with the Fuelband (and what I assume would be any device) and it will do so automatically. The icon stays greyed out, but turning the Fuelband's BT on and off in turn pops up that Trusted Device notification on the Moto X.
I hope this helps someone else with any type of random trusted device need.
Cheers
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so what can you do with it?

640k said:
so what can you do with it?
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You can use it as your trusted device to keep your phone unlocked while you're in proximity to it and connected via Bluetooth. Saves me those few seconds of having to enter in my password, and maintains some security.

iJusDefy said:
You can use it as your trusted device to keep your phone unlocked while you're in proximity to it and connected via Bluetooth. Saves me those few seconds of having to enter in my password, and maintains some security.
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you're not using it for its fitness aspects?

640k said:
you're not using it for its fitness aspects?
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Oh, I thought you were referring to what I can do with the pairing to the Moto X.
I've been using the fitness aspect of the Fuelband since March 2012. The newest one that I have now I can use to track my general activity throughout the entire day, tag specific workout sessions in order to keep track of my workout intensity over time, track hours of sleep, and set goals for myself (via # of Fuel points) every day to give me an activity level to reach for. Since there's no Android app or any sort of Android support on Nike's end, I do all my data syncing through my PC.
And now I can use it to keep my phone unlocked when it's on me

I've got a Pebble syncing fine and enabled as a trusted device but my bluetooth icon is always greyed out. I think it only turns white when there's an audio connection like with a headset or stereo.

clankfu said:
I've got a Pebble syncing fine and enabled as a trusted device but my bluetooth icon is always greyed out. I think it only turns white when there's an audio connection like with a headset or stereo.
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Makes sense why mine is grayed out too. Pebble supports Android though, and since there's no support/app for the Fuelband on Android, I had to use the auto bluetooth connect app to force a pairing to make it a trusted device. Was close to buying a Pebble though. Saw it was on sale for $90.

iJusDefy said:
Makes sense why mine is grayed out too. Pebble supports Android though, and since there's no support/app for the Fuelband on Android, I had to use the auto bluetooth connect app to force a pairing to make it a trusted device. Was close to buying a Pebble though. Saw it was on sale for $90.
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Yup. I got mine yesterday from Best Buy for $90. Wasn't planning on buying one but, at that price, I thought what the hell. So far I'm really digging it.

Its a shame it wasnt hacked already it would be nice to have wristband with notification...I am not into fitness or watch stuffs :angel:

Thanks for the info on the app!
By using this app to ensure a connection, how long does your Fuelband SE battery last? I suspect it has shorten considerable from when you were not using BT at all.
Also, since there are at least 2 battery sizes depending on the band size (circumference), which size is yours?

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[Q] trusted bluetooth dongle

I would prefer that Motorola gave an option to permit touchless control to work with passwords - but that is not the case
I decided to explore finding a Bluetooth dongle I could carry as a trusted Bluetooth device and found http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NH3IEW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 on amazon. While this works, there is a gotcha. What I am looking for is the dongle to keep the moto x unlocked while in my possession. When I am in my vehicle - I want the moto x to pair with the vehicle bluetooth.... The trouble is that the dongle I found presents itself to the phone as a headset, the same device type as the vehicle and I believe that the phone can only use one headset at a time. I could explore prioritizing the vehicle as higher than the dongle - but the dongle acts as an alarm and beeps if it loses connection with the phone....
soooo - does anyone know of a bluetooth dongle that is priced at throw-away prices that I can use as a trusted BT that I can carry - while permitting me to ALSO use the BT in my vehicle? This has to pass the "wife" test and just work without doing anything as it is for her phone.
The BETTER solution would be for Motorola to permit touchless to be configured to work while a phone is locked. I do not understand the security issues with enabling this functionality -- and even if there is to permit a user to make a decision. Afterall the touchless control is supposed to only respond to the owner - and while it is not perfect, it is not so bad. Come on Motorola - give us this option.
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gecko-make-your-smart-phone-smarter
murso74 said:
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gecko-make-your-smart-phone-smarter
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Interesting - but a tad overkill for what I am looking for.
I will track it though
simard57 said:
Interesting - but a tad overkill for what I am looking for.
I will track it though
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20 bucks though.. can't really go wrong.
murso74 said:
20 bucks though.. can't really go wrong.
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for the webpage
"Works with iOS and Android 4.3 devices" so it wont work on the Moto X until it is updated?
simard57 said:
for the webpage
"Works with iOS and Android 4.3 devices" so it wont work on the Moto X until it is updated?
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doh... missed that. lemme take a look
after reading it a couple of times it looks like only the gesture control requires 4.3. i can't imagine that just hooking up a bluetooth dongle would require that much

[Q] Touchless Control and UConnect hands-free system.

So, this may have been brought up already, I did try to search, but didnt come up with much.
So, i bought a Moto X, even after hearing the lenovo/google news. I figure that they cant ruin the device quickly enough to justify second-guessing my long and painstaking decision process.
Anyway, touchless control is pretty awesome. Ive been tinkering with it since i got it. I'm a long time android user, and have been using google now for some time. The problem is this.
I drive a 2013 Jeep, with a UConnect bluetooth hands-free system. It works for what its supposed to work for, i can make calls, stream audio, all is well. In fact its working better than it did on my old GNex. However, once I connect my motox to UConnect (that is, i get in, turn on the Jeep, and bluetooth associates), touchless control becomes unresponsive. In fact, it seems that even if i try to manually initiate a voice search, google now cant hear me. I can use the voice input for the keyboard, just not voice commands. It's almost like as soon as i'm paired to a bluetooth input, google now voice input/touchless control get turned off. Which to me seems odd.
I tried looking around in my settings, i cant seem to find a setting that tells the phone to do this. It just doesnt work.
Also, if i turn off bluetooth while the Jeep is still running, touchless/voice input starts working again.
I havent tried pairing it to another bluetooth headset to see if it does it then too, i'll update this thread once i've had a chance to try that.
Is this something others are experiencing? Is it supposed to do this for some safety feature, and I dont know it?
Thanks!
Google Now>Settings>Voice>Bluetooth Headset
Solutions Etcetera said:
Google Now>Settings>Voice>Bluetooth Headset
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Thanks! Just changed the setting. I'll give it a shot as soon as im back in my Jeep!
Ok, results.
I found the Bluetooth headset option was turned off by default. I turned it on. Last night I had a chance to fiddle with it on my way home. At first it didn't work. So i went back into the Google now settings and turned the option back off, and..... It started working! I have no idea why. I'm actually back in the same config I started with, but now it's working. Weird.
Gotta love android...
Solutions Etcetera said:
Gotta love android...
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I do love android! But yea, i agree. Some weird stuff here.
gangrif said:
I do love android! But yea, i agree. Some weird stuff here.
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The other day I had a Bluetooth headset on listening to a podcast via Pocketcasts and when I used Google Now, sometimes the response would play over the phone's speaker, and other times over the headset.
Pretty clear Android still hasn't gotten Bluetooth right. )c:
Solutions Etcetera said:
Pretty clear Android still hasn't gotten Bluetooth right. )c:
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yeah, ain't that the truth! I couldn't get a Moto X to pair with my Lexus when an iPhone 5 can.

[Q] Car Mode Alternative?

Let me preface this by saying that I wanted to post this in the apps section but there's only 4 threads there LOL...
My Note 3 and my wife's S4 (if I remember correctly) had Handsfree Mode which would read aloud texts while connected to the bluetooth in the car. Since the S5 does not have this feature on AT&T, I'm looking for alternatives? There's one app that I used a long time ago called Text By Voice. What I didn't like about that is it kept the bluetooth connection in "listening" mode all the time, so you couldn't listen to the radio, or anything else... Or maybe there could be a way to get this working with Google Now a la Moto X style?
Check out Agent. It's driving mode does what you are asking and is quite smart about it. It will enact automatically. It can do other phone controls, too.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tryagent
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natefish said:
Check out Agent. It's driving mode does what you are asking and is quite smart about it. It will enact automatically. It can do other phone controls, too.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tryagent
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Seems flawed... I sent the developer the following message:
While I do like the driving agent. I don't like the fact that I can only have one Bluetooth profile though. I have 3 vehicles and would like it to work on all of them not just some. I have been somewhat able to work around this with trigger. When an SMS comes through the driving agent, it will play through the vehicles audio but then switches to the phones speaker for replies. It also seems to be killing the battery somehow. In the battery settings, android system stays on even when the agent is not active.
Any other alternatives?
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[Q] Bluetooth Connection Issue (Redux)

Hey All,
I've done a quick and dirty search for this problem, but I haven't found anything that's exactly the same.
I have an XT1060, Dev Ed, on KK 4.4.4, and I'm just wondering, am I the only one who cannot get my bluetooth radio to hook up to paired devices easily?
The problem is, I always have to ask to connect manually; this is a bit of a pain, especially after turning off my car, say, for a few seconds. Oh, it'll connect, but sometimes it takes 10-15 tries before that connection is made, and even then, it's often after I have to disconnect then attempt to reconnect a few times because it doesn't connect both the phone and media modes.
I have done the unpair/re-pair thing a couple of times, but nothing changes.
I had an HTC phone before this, and it'd reconnect automagically to my cars BT server, so I suspect it's nothing to do with the car's BT radio. I really miss that...
Thanks for any suggestions anyone might have in how to remedy this. Fwiw, I'm willing to go through a diagnostic procedure if someone would clue me in to just how to do that.
cheers,
john
I've had issues with the bluetooth and pairing. When I was on 4.2.2 (I think..) it wouldn't connect automatically at all, and I used an app to connect for me. I have a Chevrolet Cobalt and it wouldn't connect to my built in bluetooth for calls or a small bluetooth dongle that I use for playing music through the AUX input on the stock radio.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.myklos.btautoconnect&hl=en
Once I was on 4.4.2 it seemed to work much better. I have no real issues now on 4.4.4. The only time I notice it not really working right is when I try to connect to the bluetooth speaker in our bathroom at home. If I turn the speaker on, it almost always connects to my girlfriends phone nearly instantly, even though I open the bluetooth menu and tap the paired device to manually initiate right when I turn on the speaker. It usually takes me a few tries to get mine to connect before hers, or I ask her to shut her bluetooth off for a moment while I connect. She uses the speaker every day because she leaves for work after me, so it only happens to me 1-2 times per month on the off chance that I want to listen to music or a baseball game in the shower, so it never really bothered me much.
I think the bluetooth radio in this phone could be better.. I never had any similar issues with my Droid X or Moto Razr Maxx so I'm not sure what the deal is...
Edit: forgot to mention I also have an XT1060, but not dev edition. My bootloader is unlocked and I am rooted, but using the official 4.4.4 VZW rom with Xposed.
I have never had any issues pairing Bluetooth - on either my car or moto 360 watch (even simultaneously).
However, I have noticed that the Bluetooth connects much quicker on custom ROMs when compared to stock.
I think tour connection issue may be a setting or rogue app related.
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Thanks to both of you for your replies!
Fwiw, things have not gotten any better since I posted my question. I'm getting more accustomed to it, though.
As for the possibility of a rogue app, yes I suppose so, but short of uninstalling everything, and adding them one by one and trying to connect to something via BT, how can someone go about debugging such a thing?
cheers,
john
jrredho said:
Thanks to both of you for your replies!
Fwiw, things have not gotten any better since I posted my question. I'm getting more accustomed to it, though.
As for the possibility of a rogue app, yes I suppose so, but short of uninstalling everything, and adding them one by one and trying to connect to something via BT, how can someone go about debugging such a thing?
cheers,
john
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You may need to delete the profile for the Bluetooth pairing in your car. Could be a conflict there.
Otherwise, try looking at your Bluetooth settings on the phone.
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jrredho said:
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I have an XT1060, Dev Ed, on KK 4.4.4, and I'm just wondering, am I the only one who cannot get my bluetooth radio to hook up to paired devices easily?
The problem is, I always have to ask to connect manually; this is a bit of a pain, especially after turning off my car, say, for a few seconds. Oh, it'll connect, but sometimes it takes 10-15 tries before that connection is made, and even then, it's often after I have to disconnect then attempt to reconnect a few times because it doesn't connect both the phone and media modes.
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Is it *ALL* bluetooth devices, or just the car? What model and year car? Are you connecting to the Hands Free profile, Headset Profile, or doing something like A2DP for music streaming?
How long have you had the phone, how long has this been a problem? Has the symptom ever changed?
Keep in mind, just because your HTC phone connected to the car just fine, doesn't mean the car could not be the issue. While the Bluetooth profiles and protocols should be "standard" I've seen many issues of interoperability issues between bluetooth devices over the years. Especially with car kits.
KidJoe said:
Is it *ALL* bluetooth devices, or just the car? What model and year car? Are you connecting to the Hands Free profile, Headset Profile, or doing something like A2DP for music streaming?
How long have you had the phone, how long has this been a problem? Has the symptom ever changed?
Keep in mind, just because your HTC phone connected to the car just fine, doesn't mean the car could not be the issue. While the Bluetooth profiles and protocols should be "standard" I've seen many issues of interoperability issues between bluetooth devices over the years. Especially with car kits.
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Guys, thanks for staying with me on this. One thing I've definitely learned is that the bluetooth thing is something I'm pretty ignorant on. I can see that I'm going to have to study it a bit before too long. Gad, that HTC spoiled me rotten---at least in that way.
I haven't tried the phone with any other BT devices. This is mostly because I don't own but two, the car and a travel speaker, and I haven't had the speaker out of its case since I scored the phone six or eight weeks ago. Also, I did some housecleaning, so I have only a small fraction, maybe 20%, of the same apps on the MotoX that I had on the HTC. I have no apps on the MotoX that I didn't have on the latter.
As for some of the car-related suggestions, it's a 2015 Subaru Forester Premium 2.5i, which is really only level up from the base model of that line. I can't find that there is a bluetooth profile setting in the car that I can change; I think that it's too basic. The relevant user manual simply states the following:
Media format
Bluetooth audio devices cannot be
connected if they are not compatible with
the following Bluetooth® profiles.
. A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution
Profile)
. AVRCP (Audio/Video Remote Control
Profile)
I don't even know what either of those mean!
Anyway, what I did do is go to the phone settings, and uncheck the Media box that shows up once the car's BT server is detected. Then I try to connect with the Phone box checked. It'll still fail to connect several times, but (a) it doesn't take as long to fail to connect, (b) it doesn't take as many tries (it seems) to make the connection, and (c) when it fails, it fails totally, so I don't have to disconnect from 'Media-only Connected (No Phone)' connection. That makes it easier I suppose. Then once the connection is established, it's a simple matter to go back to settings, and check the Media box. That add-on connection happens pretty quickly, but the process is still a little overwrought, imo.
Of course, KidJoe, up until you mentioned a Headset Profile, I didn't know one existed. But when I try to play music on my phone using PowerAmp, well, the app doesn't hook up to the BT anyway. That's a key difference between the HTC and the MotoX. In PowerAmp, I have "Play over Bluetooth on Detection" selected. The headset isn't being detected at all. So maybe that goes some distance to explaining what I'm encountering.
Again thanks to both of guys for hanging in there with me! I'll keep trudging "onward through the fog," as it were...
cheers,
john
A2DP and AVRC are used for Bluetooth Stereo audio streaming (like playing Pandora on your phone via your car stereo). Not phone calls.
For phone calls, usually a Headset or Handsfree profiles are used, and sometimes BT Phone Book Access (so you can see your phone's contact names/numbers on the car's screen).
I've run into compatibility issues between some phones and some Headset/Handfree devices (mostly cars, but a few bluetooth headsets too). Often times when this happens, you're stuck. Each side will blame the other (i.e. Moto will blame the Subaru car stereo, and Subaru will blame the phone).
I have had issues re-connecting to my car (a 2011 Saab 9-4x with Bose/Nav), IF I had my Moto S11 Flex HD headset connected to my Moto X before I got in the car (even if the S11 was powered off/disconnected from the X before I started the car). Usually toggling the X's bluetooth off/on, and sometimes worst case rebooting the phone, has always fixed it.. Another time I had troubles connecting to my Saab's car kit was when my wife was using her phone to stream audio. The next time I got in the car, I had to manually connect my phone. The car always tries to connect to the the last phone used, so it was looking for my wifes and it took a while before it timed out. When it did time out, it didn't look for mine.
Since you have a 2015 Subaru, I would consider visiting your car dealer, ask them to help with pairing the phone properly, and making sure its working right. See what they have to say.
My bluetooth in my car stopped pairing the other day, and it turns out it was an app that updated and requested permissions related to bluetooth. I didn't notice them because it's an app I trust so I accepted the new permissions without really looking at it.
I used App Settings (Xposed module) to disable the permissions and my bluetooth works fine again.
I could still pair with things if I went to the bluetooth paired device list and manually tapped on the device I wanted to connect with, but it would not pair automatically (like when I got in my car). Once I disabled that permission, it started working again without issue.
May be worth a look through your installed apps to see if anything has access to bluetooth and may be interfering.
Hey All,
Thanks again for the continued help!
It's true, I didn't do any research on app interference before I posted this thread topic, but since a couple of you have brought it up, I decided to do a little research. I installed a permissions app, and took a look at the permissions that allows an app to automatically seek out, and pair with, Bluetooth servers. I have to admit, I got some surprises there. (Who would've thought that Beautiful Widgets needed that permission; it is now gone.)
Anyway, most of the remaining apps are either system/Moto-related, or ones I would really like to keep. I'll report back on what I learn. If there are other permissions that I need to reference besides the two pairing-connecting to Bluetooth ones please let me know...
cheers,
john

Android Auto and the Nexus 6.

I thought it may be interesting to have a thread where Nexus 6 users with the supporting hardware systems could post: Tips, How to's, experience, etc. about the Android Auto APK and Nexus 6 devices. Please feel free to enlighten all who enter. :good:
Android auto is just a remote display and sound, isn't it? I don't find it particularly interesting since it *depends* on the phone for the "android" aspect. It is a much better option to install an Android HU in the car, then it isn't functionally dependent on the phone.
Not sure if you're asking or telling.
doitright said:
Android auto is just a remote display and sound, isn't it? I don't find it particularly interesting since it *depends* on the phone for the "android" aspect. It is a much better option to install an Android HU in the car, then it isn't functionally dependent on the phone.
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It is a mobile application for using your phone in a car. It displays on the cars touch screen and is controlled by voice commands. It only uses the bluetooth stack for phone calls, all other sound and video comes from the phones usb port. This equates to better audio and clear, crisp video. By the way, it only works on the latest Android HU.
i've been using it with my Pioneer 4100-NEX, it works quite well. i wish you could swipe away cards and have more notifications push though (ie, sms and hangouts come through, but not facebook messenger)
all in all i'm pretty happy with it, it's fast, simple, pretty and i've been pleasantly surprised with how responsive the resistive screen on the HU is.
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No. Its an interface.
for using your phone in a car. It displays on the cars touch screen and is controlled by voice commands. It only uses the bluetooth stack for phone calls, all other sound and video comes from the phones usb port. This equates to better audio and clear, crisp video.
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Translate to what I said.
By the way, it only works on the latest Android HU.
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HU does *not* require android to work with android auto.
If you want to try out Android Auto you can sign up for the beta of the app called AutoMate. First you'll need to join the beta group in Google+. Next you'll have to agree to be a beta tester with google play. Then you'll finally be able to download the app. I have been using the app for a couple of days now and I personally think that it is great. Its just like Android Auto, at least from what i've seen in all of the android auto demos. I have a pretty good car mount that can fit the nexus 6 so when I took a 4 hour trip this weekend everything worked flawlessly. The best part is that you've already got a giant 6 inch capacitive screen, why not use it instead of paying at least $800 for the cheap resistive screen version of the pioneer head units.
I have a pretty interesting issue where my Android Wear watch (Moto 360) is being CONSTANTLY pinged by my Nexus 6 while plugged into Android Auto. For the life of me, I can't figure out why. Maps is the only app I use regularly in Android Auto and I have it muted on Android Wear...yet, it's draining my Moto 360 battery QUICKLY every time I plug in. It's the strangest thing. I've had to start putting my 360 into Airplane mode to avoid problems while driving. As soon as I unplug the Nexus from my Android Auto HU, I then have to reconnect my 360 in the Android Wear app...or else it won't reconnect and continues to drain battery.
Seriously the weirdest thing.
yeah I have the pioneer 4100nex and originally was using a Moto G and it works great and then I preorderd the ATT galaxy S6 Edge and received it on tuesday, well the S6 edge doesn't work with the Android Auto, so I returned it and just bought google play edition Nexus 6 64gb, and works perfect, I really like the google navigation, reads texts and you can voice reply to the texts,you can play your google music, I`m very happy with it.:good:
That is not the purpose of this thread.
blakedunc235 said:
If you want to try out Android Auto you can sign up for the beta of the app called AutoMate. First you'll need to join the beta group in Google+. Next you'll have to agree to be a beta tester with google play. Then you'll finally be able to download the app. I have been using the app for a couple of days now and I personally think that it is great. Its just like Android Auto, at least from what i've seen in all of the android auto demos. I have a pretty good car mount that can fit the nexus 6 so when I took a 4 hour trip this weekend everything worked flawlessly. The best part is that you've already got a giant 6 inch capacitive screen, why not use it instead of paying at least $800 for the cheap resistive screen version of the pioneer head units.
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I like to believe we all know how to use our phones hands free in a car and need no special app to do that. That's the way most of us have been doing it for the past six years or so since the smartphones came out. A simple bluetooth radio used to give you all you needed paired with your phones screen. But now it's much easier to get into your car, plug your device into your hidden USB port and let it charge with screen off and have a heads up display on your radios big screen while the audio is streamed through USB and the only thing using the bluetooth stack is the phone part of the phone. Sound quality is vastly improved and everything runs so much smoother. Plus the steering wheel controls for answering calls, activating OK google and other voice related options allows you to keep your eyes on the road and your hands upon the wheel.
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I like to believe we all know how to use our phones hands free in a car and need no special app to do that. That's the way most of us have been doing it for the past six years or so since the smartphones came out. A simple bluetooth radio used to give you all you needed paired with your phones screen. But now it's much easier to get into your car, plug your device into your hidden USB port and let it charge with screen off and have a heads up display on your radios big screen while the audio is streamed through USB and the only thing using the bluetooth stack is the phone part of the phone. Sound quality is vastly improved and everything runs so much smoother. Plus the steering wheel controls for answering calls, activating OK google and other voice related options allows you to keep your eyes on the road and your hands upon the wheel.
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First if your car already has Bluetooth like mine then you still have all of the same controls as the actual android auto head units. Also just like on my phone it's not like you can just say OK Google with the music playing but if the music isn't at least I can just say OK Google even with the screen off as well and will get a response. More that likely a person will still end up looking at the device or take their hands off of the wheel when giving a command. I mean come on, Google now works but everyone knows that it's still not perfect yet. Even on my phone I still have to type out what I'm saying even if I'm annunciating perfectly just FYI... Bluetooth audio has also vastly improved over the years. I would argue that the average person would not even notice the difference between Bluetooth audio and being playing directly over USB. Also don't say that it runs 'so much smoother' because most of us have seen the videos and they are still laggy and still not as responsive as our phone themselves. I was simply giving an option to people who wanted to try out android auto without having to buy a crappy resistive screen head unit unless you wanted to shell out over $1000 for one. Also is not a heads up display... A heads up display would be something out in the area of where the driver will be looking out of the windshield as to not having to take their eyes off of the road ahead.
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blakedunc235 said:
First if your car already has Bluetooth like mine then you still have all of the same controls as the actual android auto head units. Also just like on my phone it's not like you can just say OK Google with the music playing but if the music isn't at least I can just say OK Google even with the screen off as well and will get a response. More that likely a person will still end up looking at the device or take their hands off of the wheel when giving a command. I mean come on, Google now works but everyone knows that it's still not perfect yet. Even on my phone I still have to type out what I'm saying even if I'm annunciating perfectly just FYI... Bluetooth audio has also vastly improved over the years. I would argue that the average person would not even notice the difference between Bluetooth audio and being playing directly over USB. Also don't say that it runs 'so much smoother' because most of us have seen the videos and they are still laggy and still not as responsive as our phone themselves. I was simply giving an option to people who wanted to try out android auto without having to buy a crappy resistive screen head unit unless you wanted to shell out over $1000 for one. Also is not a heads up display... A heads up display would be something out in the area of where the driver will be looking out of the windshield as to not having to take their eyes off of the road ahead.
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Please try and understand what I started this thread for. It is for those of us who are using Android Auto with a supporting head unit. Just like back a few months ago, I was using the sync system in my car. I have never had any issues with my voice to text, every once in a while a word would be incorrect, but the more you use it in a quite environment the better your results get. My text messaging reads back my response before it sends and I can either allow it to send or say the message again. I have not had to touch my phone in a car for five years and don't plan on doing anything like that today even with the radios display. The idea of hands free is exactly that, Hands Free. If you don't have the tech to support and help contribute to developing apps that help alleviate the use of hands in the car, this is not the forum thread for you. I don't know what music application you prefer, but the ones I use I pay a premium for because they offer me higher bandwidth and truer sound. And you can immediately here the difference between bluetooth and wired. It's been rumored already that Bluetooth is soon to become extinct and it seems that is the way mobile tech is rolling. BTW, HU the way I was using it my Head Unit not heads up.
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doitright said:
Android auto is just a remote display and sound, isn't it? I don't find it particularly interesting since it *depends* on the phone for the "android" aspect. It is a much better option to install an Android HU in the car, then it isn't functionally dependent on the phone.
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That would be the ideal, but very few cars come with a built in cellular connection, I know they are available but this is the inexpensive way to go. What I like the most about it is the ability to put the phone in my center compartment where the USB outlet is hidden, shut the compartment while the phone is charging and still have access to all of my phones functionality straight from the steering wheel. It's wonderful not to have to look at a screen, and if I do glance at the screen to see a turn that might be coming up or what song is playing on a stream, it is big and clear and takes not even a second to see. Luckily, the Navigation in google maps is pretty trustworthy and gives voice commands with plenty of time to spare so it's rare to even have to look at the Map when moving. My next car will have built in cellular service, it was just still to expensive four years ago when I bought my car and my service provider did not have a system in place for plugging in their tech. They do now but I won't be in the market for another car for at least another year. The thing that got me into having a Android Auto supporting HU is my text messaging application and the sync system, would not play nice together anymore because of changes in Lollipop from kit kat. Sync kept crashing the bluetooth sharing feature anytime I received a text. And since I was using that tech for the past four years, there was no way I was going back to having to touch a screen or try and type a text in the car. The developers I work with tried many fixes to see if we could alleviate the problem, but every thing we tried failed. The problem was immediately remedied with the new HU. Now I'm trying to find others that use the same tech, so we can share our experiences and any other useful features we find or help each other with certain problems one might experience. That is what this thread is about. If you have a Android Auto compatible HU and a Nexus device, this is a place to share.

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