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How many are happy or not happy.

Just wanna know how many people are happy with this phone and keeping it.
Vs
Returning it.
Besides the obvious bugs/screen etc.
I like it but I don't love it but not enough to return it.
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Love it. Keeping it.

Keeping it fersure... getting 10megabits down with 6/up. snappy and fast... rooted here.
came from a droid incredible with a dope rom from skyraider... I was running for 36 hours at a time with no kernel changes or undervolt... so my only complaint is the batt life sucks in comparison.

r4ph said:
Keeping it fersure... getting 10megabits down with 6/up. snappy and fast... rooted here.
came from a droid incredible with a dope rom from skyraider... I was running for 36 hours at a time with no kernel changes or undervolt... so my only complaint is the batt life sucks in comparison.
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Welcome to 4G. Its not the phone its 4G that sucks your battery. I will say this; The bionic is by FAR the best on battery life compared to all 4G phones on the market right now.

I adore it. I came from a Moto Droid that had a display that died on me, so I was waiting for this.
Yeah, the screen's pixels are a little annoying at times, but other than that its speeds are INCREDIBLE, the new motoblur or whatever it is called now isn't obtrusive (the phone is actually fast enough to run it where it is actually attractive), and best of all it feels great in the hand.
Also, the extended battery's replacement back for the phone doesn't add that much width to it, making it a really good purchase. Shame none of the cases they had in stock support the extended battery.
One thing that I think people ignore when writing about new phones is the sound quality, and many people I have called are astounded when I tell them that I'm on a cell phone. I was on the highway going 60 mph with the windows and roof open, trucks all around me, and my dad thought I was on a landline when I called him. However they made the microphone, they got it down perfectly.
Now, I *NEEDED* a phone because of work, so it isn't an option to wait for the Droid Prime or the iPhone 5. Am I happy with the Bionic? Absolutely. Would I have waited for an even better phone if I could have? Perhaps.
I feel like when phones come out, they are outdated within a few days unless it's an iPhone. Eventually you have to bite the bullet, and I think that the Bionic is the best bullet I've ever bitten into!

Feoen said:
I adore it. I came from a Moto Droid that had a display that died on me, so I was waiting for this.
Yeah, the screen's pixels are a little annoying at times, but other than that its speeds are INCREDIBLE, the new motoblur or whatever it is called now isn't obtrusive (the phone is actually fast enough to run it where it is actually attractive), and best of all it feels great in the hand.
Also, the extended battery's replacement back for the phone doesn't add that much width to it, making it a really good purchase. Shame none of the cases they had in stock support the extended battery.
One thing that I think people ignore when writing about new phones is the sound quality, and many people I have called are astounded when I tell them that I'm on a cell phone. I was on the highway going 60 mph with the windows and roof open, trucks all around me, and my dad thought I was on a landline when I called him. However they made the microphone, they got it down perfectly.
Now, I *NEEDED* a phone because of work, so it isn't an option to wait for the Droid Prime or the iPhone 5. Am I happy with the Bionic? Absolutely. Would I have waited for an even better phone if I could have? Perhaps.
I feel like when phones come out, they are outdated within a few days unless it's an iPhone. Eventually you have to bite the bullet, and I think that the Bionic is the best bullet I've ever bitten into!
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Yes the sound quality is superb. I don't sound like a robot coming from tb. My battery is awesome. From 630 to 12 only down 30% moderate use and that's alot. Glad that some peeps are happy.
Ill love it once I root this bad boy and get things going but man in so scared scratching this phone lol out of all th phones I've own this is the mother load of trying not to get it nik or so. It's so shiney and im ocd. About my phones lol. The case I got was from Verizon its that double layer case with ruber and hard screen and I like that.
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Case that i bought was already fitted for extended battery so i asked the rep how do i get extended battery and he said that he had one in the back bought it and been on battery since then phone is great keeping
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I also love my Bionic, having upgraded from the Droid I. The only thing which I think it's missing is a widget to turn on/off the 4g. Other then the already mentioned 4g battery woes it's awesome.

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I also love my Bionic, having upgraded from the Droid I. The only thing which I think it's missing is a widget to turn on/off the 4g. Other then the already mentioned 4g battery woes it's awesome.
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CM7 on the Tbolt has a toggle, but ya, I can see this as a pain on this phone. However, if you are using 4G - try juice defender. When the screen is off it will turn off data (and you can have your data turn on however often you wish to check for new data etc).
Highly recommend it.

I had to charge my phone yesterday twice. I went about 1.6hrs on the original charge then fully charged it. With heavy use it needed a charge around bedtime(2130). Today I got it off the charger at 0530 and used it heavy for about 40 mins, then barely touched it and it's at 70%. I have juice defender and it set to CDMA only. I do not like the battery life so far but I has ATK on it. I took it off and will see how it goes. I think the task killer is more harm then good.

Does anyone know the battery life with 4G turned off?
No 4G at all in my state yet, but our area should be getting it this year.

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I had to charge my phone yesterday twice. I went about 1.6hrs on the original charge then fully charged it. With heavy use it needed a charge around bedtime(2130). Today I got it off the charger at 0530 and used it heavy for about 40 mins, then barely touched it and it's at 70%. I have juice defender and it set to CDMA only. I do not like the battery life so far but I has ATK on it. I took it off and will see how it goes. I think the task killer is more harm then good.
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Yeah and I would imagine there is a lot of bloat that can be removed with custom ROM's or tweaking CPU settings.
//oops.. double post.

I am so temped to say forget and go back to old faithful.... Ip4. I can go like two entire days on a single charge. I admit I have never used an android phone without the ATK. Maybe that's my problem.....

I like it coming from two Htc phones. Im only having an issue with the vibrate sounding really annoying like its broken and the battery only dropping by the 10's. It dropped from 100 to 90 then to 80%. Nothing in between. Im on an extended battery and seems to be doing okay so far.
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How bad is the thickness with the extended battery, VZW is selling them local for 25 bux

And the battery by 10s is normal for the new motorola phones

Keeping. Best 4g phone on Verizon
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Toss me in on a keeper.
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Toss me in on a keeper.
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Myself as well. My only complaint is that with the extended battery it makes it feel like I'm holding a brick when compared to regular battery, but that's a small complaint considering how well the battery performs... It's just how thin the device is when compared to other LTE devices with regular battery...

Rooted in seconds and im really happy with it now. Just make sure you update the bb binary once rooted. It makes a hell of a difference imo
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Droid4? LTE...

I'm going to be pissed if this comes out soon. I just got my D3 a few months ago
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/27/motorola-droid-4-exposed-to-our-wandering-eyes-comes-with-lte-i/

If this is true my D3 will hit ebay and I'll buy a nexus. This is just bad business, asinine.
I don't see how they can do this to consumers and think it's okay. I signed an additional 2 years onto my 1 year for this phone, just to be ****ed in the ass 3 months later. I will not buy anything but nexus in the future. One phone a year, like it's supposed to be.

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/27/exclusive-first-pictures-of-the-droid4-by-motorola/
Can see VZ bloatware on one of the pics -- would assume this is fairly close. Moto/VZ appear to be really jerking around customers these days - I am sure Bionic customers are upset that the Droid RAZR came out so quickly (although the gap between Bionic and RAZR is much smaller), and now us Droid 3'ers have this Droid 4 coming out. I am more interested in how much RAM this thing has - LTE still sucks down too much battery life for my taste, and non-removable battery is non-ideal - I like the the slim Motorola extended batteries - the 1900 mah one for Droid 3 adds essentially no thickness and lasts a lot longer than stock 1500.

Rlin5741 said:
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/27/exclusive-first-pictures-of-the-droid4-by-motorola/
Can see VZ bloatware on one of the pics -- would assume this is fairly close. Moto/VZ appear to be really jerking around customers these days - I am sure Bionic customers are upset that the Droid RAZR came out so quickly (although the gap between Bionic and RAZR is much smaller), and now us Droid 3'ers have this Droid 4 coming out. I am more interested in how much RAM this thing has - LTE still sucks down too much battery life for my taste, and non-removable battery is non-ideal - I like the the slim Motorola extended batteries - the 1900 mah one for Droid 3 adds essentially no thickness and lasts a lot longer than stock 1500.
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Non removable battery is an instant do not want from me also, but I'm just pissed about this ****. I will never buy another motorola phone, I'm done. Give me Nexus or give me death.

I paid full retail for this phone right when it came out, I'm pretty pissed. If that comes out within the next few months (from the looks of it, it will) it'll be goodbye moto and hello nexus for me.
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Yeah ill be pretty frustrated @ moto too.... problem is I can't live without a keyboard and for some reason moto is the only company willing to put out higher end keyboard phones

Well, the Nexus looks great (as long as you are ok with something that big - I am not), and I do love the idea of a pure Google experience, but nobody has actually used one; we have no idea how good or bad it will be. And, this is a Samsung phone, and is coming out even closer to the launch of the Samsung Charge than any the presumed D4 is coming to the D3. This is the reality - you reach a point to get an upgrade, you get the upgrade, and you stop worrying whether something slightly better is coming out in a few months - because it is.
I'm ok with a thinner device with non-removable battery - I have chargers everywhere, including in my car, and there are plenty of great portable charging devices that you can get for phones like that. After tons of issue with the Bionic over two weeks dropping data (3G, in areas where I know I have a solid 3G signal), I'm happy to have the D3 for the next 19.5 months, and give plenty of time to Moto and VZW to get LTE truly ready for prime time - because it's not quite there now. The D3 is a great phone and I'll be fine with it; not a single data drop since I've had it, and battery life is about the same as the Bionic (when it was running CDMA only).
I do think that this angle-cornered design of the Razr and this prototype is a bit on the unattractive side, though, compared with the Bionic/D3.

I don't mind that they are putting out another version of the Droid soon. It's a losing battle to have the latest and greatest phone. What bothers me is what will happen to OS updates. Will phones get abandoned quicker?
Also did anyone else notice non-removable battery, looks like I wouldn't buy it. I pay an and a leg for a phone along with a plan and both Verizon and Motorola act like they own your phone. Do they not realize why people buy Android phones? I can upgrade/swap batteries, I can run whatever programs I want, I can add a memory card, etc.

for people like sims and whitty who have been doing a lot of work on the d3 and are being ostracized, i firmly believe this is an idiotic move on moto's side. I'm probably gonna go the nexus route if the d4 drops as soon as everyone is speculating it is. This is some major bs.

At least I have the Transformer Prime to look forward to....
But seriously. Ugh. Waco has no 4G of any kind and won't for years to come so this doesn't affect me too much, but still. This will take away a huge amount of potential users and will piss off all the D3 buyers, especially the ones like me who bought it on full retail.

I hope the D4 will have no global radio, so I will not be tempted. ;-)

Most people won't have 4G for at least another year. By then, that phone will be obsolete, I wouldn't sweat the small stuff.
*If you're not on Gingerbread, you should be shot*

Really, who cares about 4G when the 3G part is not on par with a 3 years old Sonyericsson phone ?

Good God some of you are getting worked up over a phone. It is not a big deal just let it go.
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MrObvious said:
Good God some of you are getting worked up over a phone. It is not a big deal just let it go.
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It is a big deal because if someone wants a qwerty are they going to buy the 3 or the 4? We'll be left behind with a smaller community, as great as it is. It's just frustrating and I've had it with moto's bull****.
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I hope the D4 will have no global radio, so I will not be tempted. ;-)
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Interesting point, if it does have a GSM radio, this will be the first Global capable phone with LTE. How wold that even work, 2 SIM cards?

Non-replaceable battery will keep it off my list too. I'm in the NYC Metro Area and I know a few people with LTE phones, Bionic, Charge and TB. All have the same complaint, the battery life is horrible and they have constant connection issues. I'm waiting until next year summer-fall when the 2nd or 3rd generation LTE chips come out.

i was pissed then i saw no removable battery the i was like i dont care lol. i choose unlimited 3g over limited 4g any day i got grandfatherd over so its all good

Motorola can't be serious, Droid 3 is only about 4 month old.
And I don't really like the curved design

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i was pissed then i saw no removable battery the i was like i dont care lol. i choose unlimited 3g over limited 4g any day i got grandfatherd over so its all good
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If you're on unlimited data now (using 3G), when you switch to a 4G phone you stay on unlimited data (now using 4G).

[Edit]: (I did) Would you bring your bionic back for a razr if you could?

So I bought my bionic a best buy less than 2 weeks ago. I've had Bluetooth dropping out quite a bit, and tonight I lost data connection for a while for the first time, and it has me thinking of getting my money back and going for a razr. But,....seeing as most of the important stuff inside both are the same, I would think the same problems will likely persist between both. So why bother if the same problems will be there? Add on top of that I already had to buy an extended battery for the bionic (I can return obviously, but isn't offered with the razr).

I would, the bionic isn't bad but the razr is better. I would imagine some of the problems with the bionic will have been worked out for the razr, and we'll probably see the this as well in the next OTA.

Tough choice. It has slightly better specs, but I personally think its an ugly phone. If I took it back for anything it would likely be the Galaxy Nexus, but I'm not even too pumped for that. I was surprised it wasn't clocked at 1.5GHz.
I have had to do a battery pull on my bionic once since getting it. What would you do with the Razr in those situations?
It is a lot slimmer though. I probably would do an even trade, but I am not 100% sure.

Nope. I think the Bionic combines all the good qualities of all the mentioned phones. Removable battery? Check. SD card? Check Screen viewable in all conditions? Check. Now that I'm running 5.7 I really enjoy the Bionic. Besides, there's no guarantee the Razr or Nexus is going to be any less buggy than the Bionic. On the other hand, if you have the chance to sample all the current offerings, go for it. You could always trade one of those phones for a Bionic again I'm sure.

No I wouldn't. The specs are slightly better but I prefer the design of the Bionic. They're both getting ICS so there's nothing really compelling over the Bionic.
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Well, I figure I'm pretty certain both use the same processor, lte/CDMA/bluetooth likely, too. So it stands to reason it will have similar problems related to these pieces. I will say I just installed shift3r 2.3 and listened to 40 minutes of Bluetooth pandora and mp3 without a single skip.

I switch between batteries alot. No removable battery is a big no.
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The main reason I would upgrade is the screen, this is the main area the bionic lacks. It's great in bright light compared to HTC and Samsung phones but that doesn't completely make up for it. I rarely notice the black pentile squares unless I get way to close to the screen, but reading text, and the numbers on my notifications can be a pain at times. I also like the thin frame, I miss how thin my X was, and the non removable battery isn't an issue (unless you have to have a extended battery) as it should have a hard reset button combo, and if tie battery is as good as the bionic's then it should be fine for most people. I wouldn't get the nexus for two reasons, 1. It's a Samsung and they have bad radios and call quality is nowhere near as good as Motorola, 2. No removable SD card.

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I switch between batteries alot. No removable battery is a big no.
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Instant deal killer for me. I depend on multiple batteries each day.
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Maybe if there were no additional costs. It has enough "upgrades" that I might want it. I got my Bionic a few days before they officially announced these devices and I knew that new devices would be coming up soon. I definitely don't regret my choice. I got my Bionic from amazon wireless for $0.01, so I would have been stuck paying $300 more to get one of the newer devices and that simply wouldn't be worth it.
The back of the razr is nice and the fact that it's thin and light is impressive. One of my biggest concerns while I was waiting for my Bionic to arrive was the size. This is the biggest screen I've had and the phone, at the thickest point, is thicker than other devices I've used. I was extremely surprised when I got it out of the box. I actually liked the bigger size and weight! I definitely don't have large hands, but the Bionic just feels like a better fit. The weight gives it a sturdier feel too. The razr seems like it would feel a bit on the fragile side. I don't really like the angles of the razr. The subtle transition on the back of the Bionic is better, in my opinion, and I don't think I like the corner angles on the razr.
The larger screen also helps when switching between my tablet and my phone... my old phone felt tiny after using my tablet for a while. The Bionic feels a little small in comparison, but that small increase in screen size seems to really make a difference.
I also like the texture of the back cover.The razr looks nice, but I'm not sure how it would feel. I assume it's a bit slicker than the Bionic, so I'd definitely prefer the Bionic for that.
I have yet to experience any problems with my Bionic, so removing the battery is not a huge issue for me. I also manage to get satisfactory battery life, so being able to replace the battery isn't a concern. I'd be fine with getting an external battery charger if I needed more life to get through the day. From what I understand, there should still be a way to force the phone to reboot if necessary, so that might not be a problem.
I'd say people should still consider the Bionic if they're in the phone for a new phone. Try to get a feel for the phones... check out the size, weight and overall feel of holding the device. Consider any important or necessary features (expandable memory, removable battery, etc.). In terms of things like processor speeds, I don't think the average person will really notice much of a difference.

I'm still in my remorse period. I might have considered Raze except for battery. Logic says the phone has the same embedded battery and its done well. But I've never owned a phone that hadn't required a battery pull...except the iPhone. Can Motorola pull it off?
Im on Bionic #3. First one I returned to Verizon because of the amazon 1 cent deal. 2nd one was slower and rebooted. 3rd one is a week old today. Only have the sound issue in my car.
I like Motorola, and I like the Motorola DROID. I've always wanted one. Now I've got one. The Raze is ugly, IMO. Plus I see DROID Razr, and, Motorola Razr. Which means its not even uniq ue anymore. Don't want any part of AT&T.
I'LL. stick with the Bionic.

here is a review from the verge
I can't post links yet but the verge put up a review of the razr.
I'm in the same situation as you, but no removable battery and apparently worse looking screen, I'm going to stick with the bionic.

http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/7/2543626/motorola-droid-razr-review
Wow, pretty bad write up on the screen.
Battery about the same as the standard Bionic's (big surprise)
Back camera same as Bionics 8mp
Overall rating of 7.0 vs Bionic 7.6

I've actually grown to love the Pentile display, and no replaceable/extended battery is a problem. So, the Razr doesn't tempt me. The Galaxy Nexus does, but even there, I'm still on the fence.

Stick with the Bionic
After reading most of these reviews that came out today for the Razr, I would most definitely say stick with the Bionic. I know I am. Below average battery life that you can't do anything about is not good. Also, I have read in multiple reviews that even with an AMOLED screen, reviewers prefer the Bionic LCD over the Razr's. It's not a good screen. Moto made to many concessions by trying to get the "wow" thin factor. The only thing is has going for it is the form factor, in which I prefer the Bionics more, in my opinion. The only other option would be the Galaxy Nexus but as someone already pointed out, I would wait on that one. There's no telling how many bugs/issues it will have being brand new software. Anyway, that's my 2 cents, stick with the Bionic.

After running droidth3ory's new shift3r 2.3 since last night, I have to say, on initial impressions, my Bluetooth is running much better. I hope it continues. I did have one spontaneous reboot with it this morning, but I wiped cache and dalvik cache in hopes to curb it doing it again.

Sorry, I tried to 'Thank' everyone, but apparently am limited to 5 a day.

Would not get rid of my bionic for the razr but I will be ditching it next Monday for the Rezound. The bionic is my first Moto android phone and it is built very well but the locked bootloader sucks. The Rezound has root and s-off. Also it seems most of the guys that developed for the EVO 4g will be working on it. Droidth3ory has done a great job on the bionic but I am headed back the the land of HTC.

I had a Thunderbolt, and liked it OK, but the battery was horrid. The only thing worse than it was the HTC extended battery. Made it like its ass was pregnant.

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If only 2,300mAh battery, will that stop you from buying N5 ?

I am a huge Nexus phone fan, having owned all four Nexus phones the last few years. But also have owned different phones in-between
But lately to me, long battery life has become my #1 most wanted feature. I hammer on my phone all day during the work week, and none of the Nexus phones last me a full day with my kind of use, and I do install custom ROM's with battery friendly kernels, etc.. still doesn't help.
My Nexus 4 I get around 4h On Screen Time, but only total usage of around 10h - 11h out of the battery before the phone is dead. So that sucks for me, unplug at 6:30am, and by 4:30pm it's pretty much done. My Galaxy Nexus was far worse than that, the G Nex blew on battery.
I use my phone, as an actual phone, go figure I can't understand people that rarely do phone calls, how can't you be on the phone anymore ? For running my business and dealing with clients, approx 2 hours of phone calls per day. GPS Navigation used every day, for at least one hour. Text like crazy all day. Read and send e-mails all day. Surf the web.
Only phone that could handle my type of use was the Note 2. That thing could be hammered hard on a workday and still be going until bedtime with juice still left. No other phone I owned could do that. But the Note was too large for my tastes, hard to one hand use.
Saying all of that, I need the Nexus 5 with the rumored option for 3,000mAh + 32GB storage. But now it sounds like that rumor has been squashed. So I might get the G2 instead, and run a ported Nexus 5 ROM down the road.

battery
I have a note1, running official 4.12 with a different kernel. Battery isn't bad, but I usually never let it get below 50% without at least tapping it a little bit during the day.
Perhaps part of the reason (if it holds true, these aren't official specs) of the smaller battery is maybe 4.4 is a little less power
hungry, or the SOC inside the device, the memory etc, consume less power?

Of course! I'm all set with multiple cheap battery banks strategically placed at work, in the car, and in my briefcase for those times I need the battery boost.
As cheap as $5.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/RED-2600mah..._Cell_Phone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item485af1789d

Nope i will defenitly buy one *-*

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I am a huge Nexus phone fan, having owned all four Nexus phones the last few years. But also have owned different phones in-between
But lately to me, long battery life has become my #1 most wanted feature. I hammer on my phone all day during the work week, and none of the Nexus phones last me a full day with my kind of use, and I do install custom ROM's with battery friendly kernels, etc.. still doesn't help.
My Nexus 4 I get around 4h On Screen Time, but only total usage of around 10h - 11h out of the battery before the phone is dead. So that sucks for me, unplug at 6:30am, and by 4:30pm it's pretty much done. My Galaxy Nexus was far worse than that, the G Nex blew on battery.
I use my phone, as an actual phone, go figure I can't understand people that rarely do phone calls, how can't you be on the phone anymore ? For running my business and dealing with clients, approx 2 hours of phone calls per day. GPS Navigation used every day, for at least one hour. Text like crazy all day. Read and send e-mails all day. Surf the web.
Only phone that could handle my type of use was the Note 2. That thing could be hammered hard on a workday and still be going until bedtime with juice still left. No other phone I owned could do that. But the Note was too large for my tastes, hard to one hand use.
Saying all of that, I need the Nexus 5 with the rumored option for 3,000mAh + 32GB storage. But now it sounds like that rumor has been squashed. So I might get the G2 instead, and run a ported Nexus 5 ROM down the road.
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I agree with you 200%.
I currently have a GS3 with a 3,000mAh Samsung extended battery and I can do the all day. I was not able to do with 2100 stock.
If 2300 will be confirmed and if they'll not be able two do some crazy optimisation, I'll get a G2 or Z1. My concern is that AOSP on these two devices is zero at the moment.
As 64gb is out of discussion as well as sd card espansion, USB OTG will be very important as 32GB are not enough for me!
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Zorachus said:
I am a huge Nexus phone fan, having owned all four Nexus phones the last few years. But also have owned different phones in-between
But lately to me, long battery life has become my #1 most wanted feature. I hammer on my phone all day during the work week, and none of the Nexus phones last me a full day with my kind of use, and I do install custom ROM's with battery friendly kernels, etc.. still doesn't help.
My Nexus 4 I get around 4h On Screen Time, but only total usage of around 10h - 11h out of the battery before the phone is dead. So that sucks for me, unplug at 6:30am, and by 4:30pm it's pretty much done. My Galaxy Nexus was far worse than that, the G Nex blew on battery.
I use my phone, as an actual phone, go figure I can't understand people that rarely do phone calls, how can't you be on the phone anymore ? For running my business and dealing with clients, approx 2 hours of phone calls per day. GPS Navigation used every day, for at least one hour. Text like crazy all day. Read and send e-mails all day. Surf the web.
Only phone that could handle my type of use was the Note 2. That thing could be hammered hard on a workday and still be going until bedtime with juice still left. No other phone I owned could do that. But the Note was too large for my tastes, hard to one hand use.
Saying all of that, I need the Nexus 5 with the rumored option for 3,000mAh + 32GB storage. But now it sounds like that rumor has been squashed. So I might get the G2 instead, and run a ported Nexus 5 ROM down the road.
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Agree on the way a phone should be used and my usage pattern is similar to yours. I can hardly get through a day on a single charge and I would be out of juice by 6-7pm. However, battery life is no concern to me (and many others) at all. I mean, how far are you from an outlet at all times? I have a charger in the office, in my car, in my briefcase and on several strategic locations at home. We switch phones pretty much on an annual basis. The battery won't die in one year regardless of your abuse. So charge your phone whenever you can and ask for smaller batteries for a smaller lighter phones. Also from what I have seen for G2 battery life, at 2300mah the N5 might have enough juice for you and I to go through a day on a single charge.

vittogn said:
I agree with you 200%.
I currently have a GS3 with a 3,000mAh Samsung extended battery and I can do the all day. I was not able to do with 2100 stock.
If 2300 will be confirmed and if they'll not be able two do some crazy optimisation, I'll get a G2 or Z1. My concern is that AOSP on these two devices is zero at the moment.
As 64gb is out of discussion as well as sd card espansion, USB OTG will be very important as 32GB are not enough for me!
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Yep.
I am more sad, because the N5 is based off the G2, which has a 3,000mAh battery stock. Of all things to cut back on, and not keep the same between the two phones, don't let it be the battery.
What is Googles reasoning behind changing the battery from the G2 in the Nexus 5 ?
Oh well, looks like G2 here I come. And development will pick up big on that phone. Its only been out a few weeks, and the international G2 just came out last week.
Let's see a Nexus 5 ROM posted on the G2, since they are so similar.
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Zorachus said:
Yep.
I am more sad, because the N5 is based off the G2, which has a 3,000mAh battery stock. Of all things to cut back on, and not keep the same between the two phones, don't let it be the battery.
What is Googles reasoning behind changing the battery from the G2 in the Nexus 5 ?
Oh well, looks like G2 here I come. And development will pick up big on that phone. Its only been out a few weeks, and the international G2 just came out last week.
Let's see a Nexus 5 ROM posted on the G2, since they are so similar.
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Is the G2 bootloader locked?
Any way the best AOSP rom is always 4-6 month behind Nexus updates!
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Zorachus said:
Yep.
What is Googles reasoning behind changing the battery from the G2 in the Nexus 5 ?
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N5 is over and inch narrower and and nearly 3 inches shorter. Maybe it has to do with lack of real estate. Besides if we deduct from G2 we should expect 7.5-8h sot.:fingers-crossed:

vittogn said:
Is the G2 bootloader locked?
Any way the best AOSP rom is always 4-6 month behind Nexus updates!
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CM and AOKP ROM's are pretty quick to release new builds, based off the latest Android release. Its not a 4 month wait, maybe 4 weeks worse case.
The G2 is unlocked on T-Mobile, and International version. The ATT version has an exploit out, and said to be easy to root and the work around hasn't stopped custom ROM development.
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I'll be waiting for nexus 6.
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g2 or 5s ......own mba 2013

I just hope that if the battery is this size, that it will at least be able to take a 2.1 amp charge.

It won't affect my decision at all. The battery life on my N4 lasts the entire day on a full charge with moderate on-screen usage, plus I'd rather them sacrifice battery life and megapixels in order to have a quad core beast with a 1080p HD display for the low price of $299.
I'll be buying the Nexus 5 day one, can't wait!

I would buy it even if the battery was the same as the N4. All these battery nerds are getting way too worried about a phone they haven't even used yet. I guarantee that we will not care if you cry about the 2300 battery, have fun in the N4 forum, we will be here, the future.

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I would buy it even if the battery was the same as the N4. All these battery nerds are getting way too worried about a phone they haven't even used yet. I guarantee that we will not care if you cry about the 2300 battery, have fun in the N4 forum, we will be here, the future.
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The future is technically A57/53, 64bit, U-HD, etc...But sure, let's call N5 the "future". If I wanted future I probably would bet on the faster A7x chip. Sadly androids can't use it too...
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No. 2300mah will not stop me.
According to anandtech the lg g2 gets 7.9 hrs of battery life on lte web browsing. If you just reduce this proportionally the nexus 5 could get 6 hrs web browsing on LTE which is like double what my gnex gets.
Some people clearly spend every waking minute doing everything they can think of on their phone. The Nexus 5 probably won't work for those people but I expect it to be competitive with the last batch of mainstream flagships, aka the HTC one and galaxy s4. I think Google wanted a thin phone and just like the nexus 7 2013 they reduced the battery size to achieve this goal but only up to the point where battery life would be acceptable for like 90% of users.

I'm getting it no matter what battery it has...even solar!

I'm definitely getting one, my current phone has a 1500 mah battery... so 2300 is a major upgrade for me

Yes
:good: YESSIR! Been waiting on this since first hearing about it, never owned a Nexus device and currently own a Samsung Galaxy Young S6310L, hate Touchwiz & looking for the best stock experience and to start with Android 4.4? Great deal and this phone has a 1300mAh battery so a 2300/3000mAh upgrade should be great, going for the 32gb version which is rumored to have a 3000mAh battery so yes
Looking forward to see what developers has in store for it and maybe I can become one someday

Upgrade from nexus 5?

I've been hearing awesome things about the moto X. I am not satisfied with my Nexus 5 especially with it's battery life. Plus the nexus 5 feels cheaply made. The build quality is garbage.
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dicecuber said:
I've been hearing awesome things about the moto X. I am not satisfied with my Nexus 5 especially with it's battery life. Plus the nexus 5 feels cheaply made. The build quality is garbage.
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Its your own decision. I came from a gs4. Other then the camera I love this phone. I was always trying to get my gs4 on a custom stock android rom but with the BL being locked I could only get look alikes with multiple FC's. Decided to get rid of it and from all the android top sites. (Phandroid, droid life etc) they have named the moto x #1 top android phone of 2013.
MOTO X Slapped

Can't call it an upgrade. The Nexus 5 is faster, better camera, 1080p screen, it have a lot more custom rom devs working on. You'll want to make sure you won't miss these things.
I get pretty good battery life with the Moto X, over 5hours of screen on time for light to medium use. I wouldn't call Moto X build quality great either, but I do like it a little more than LG.
You will gain some and lose some.

eksasol said:
't call it an upgrade. The Nexus 5 is faster, better camera, 1080p screen, it have a lot more custom rom devs working on. You'll want to make sure you won't miss these things.
I get pretty good battery life with the Moto X, over 5hours of screen on time for light to medium use. I wouldn't call Moto X build quality great either, but I do like it a little more than LG.
You will gain some and lose some.
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You made this sound like the MotoX has a bad build quality. My opinion is that it's quite good .

TheSaw said:
You made this sound like the MotoX has a bad build quality. My opinion is that it's quite good .
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I actually had the Moto X, gave it to my wife and got myself the nexus 5... now I have returned the Nexus 5 and got myself a developer edition Moto X.
I didnt like the size, feel, battery life or display on the nexus 5. The moto x, spec wars aside, is an amazing phone. The feel in your hand, the additions to android are useful but pretty close to stock.
I don't regret the switch one bit.

ryzilla23 said:
I actually had the Moto X, gave it to my wife and got myself the nexus 5... now I have returned the Nexus 5 and got myself a developer edition Moto X.
I didnt like the size, feel, battery life or display on the nexus 5. The moto x, spec wars aside, is an amazing phone. The feel in your hand, the additions to android are useful but pretty close to stock.
I don't regret the switch one bit.
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Yes, I think you quoted the wrong guy. I have the X, and I can't say it's amazing (I can't say that about any phone, because I'm not an easily impressed person), but I can say that's it really nice, and I don't regret getting it; i like it more and more very day. This means a lot to me.

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I've been hearing awesome things about the moto X. I am not satisfied with my Nexus 5 especially with it's battery life. Plus the nexus 5 feels cheaply made. The build quality is garbage.
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I've got both N5 and Moto X and prefer the Moto X. Only regret I have is wireless charging.

ken1645 said:
I've got both N5 and Moto X and prefer the Moto X. Only regret I have is wireless charging.
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I bought a microUSB qi charging receiver for it, but still waiting for it. Will have to hide my woodback though.

eksasol said:
I bought a microUSB qi charging receiver for it, but still waiting for it. Will have to hide my woodback though.
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Which one did you get and from where?

eksasol said:
I bought a microUSB qi charging receiver for it, but still waiting for it. Will have to hide my woodback though.
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http://dx.com/en/p/internal-univers...le-w-micro-usb-port-black-242486#.Uv0YMPldUzw
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Motorola+Moto+X+Battery+Replacement/16974
It looks like it would be extremely difficult to fit the qi receiver inside the moto X wood case... a shame. Good luck putting the qi receiver in your case though!

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Which one did you get and from where?
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This one. Just received it. I haven't test it much, but it work, the lightning bolt charging indicator doesn't show up, but it does charge, albeit slower charging than with wires. I just hide it inside the TPU case, but it does coverup the M logo of the phone.
update: been charging it a bit, the receiver is rated at 500mA. It can charge the phone 10% in maybe 25min. Base on this result, it'll probably take 4hours to full charge the phone. :/

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This one. Just received it. I haven't test it much, but it work, the lightning bolt charging indicator doesn't show up, but it does charge, albeit slower charging than with wires. I just hide it inside the TPU case, but it does coverup the M logo of the phone.
update: been charging it a bit, the receiver is rated at 500mA. It can charge the phone 10% in maybe 25min. Base on this result, it'll probably take 4hours to full charge the phone. :/
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Thanks.
Ah.. cool but ehh.. I do have a tpu case so should be fine but my cheap qi charger seemed like it took that long too.. on my n4 which officially had wireless charging.. I don't use it often enough for it to be worth it.

I came from an HTC one. I have only had this phone for two days but I am extremely impressed and happy with my decision. The call quality in terms of loudness is unmatched as well as speaker output. It's scares the crap out of my when my phone rings. I actually prefer the screen color even though it is 720p compared to my one. Blacks are black and most colors are true to their color more than looking washed out. The ergonomics are fantastic. It doesn't feel cheap even with the build quality of the one. It is easier and more comfortable to hold. Active display and volume of the speaker is the main reason why I chose this over the nexus 5. I am happy I did.
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I came from the nexus 5. Primary thing you lose is the dev community, but other than that the Moto x tops the nexus everywhere else in terms of everyday use. Depends on your priorities really.
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bryan.huang said:
I came from the nexus 5. Primary thing you lose is the dev community, but other than that the Moto x tops the nexus everywhere else in terms of everyday use. Depends on your priorities really.
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Yeah well CyanogenMod nightly is officially released for it now. I tried it a bit which is very fast, but promptly flashed back stock due to missing Motorola features. I know AOKP rom have Active Display which is pretty good, but I still need Touchless Control, current alternatives aren't good enough for me and they'll drain more battery since they don't utilize the low powered core.
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I've been hearing awesome things about the moto X. I am not satisfied with my Nexus 5 especially with it's battery life. Plus the nexus 5 feels cheaply made. The build quality is garbage.
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I had a Gnex, then the GS4, then I decided to get the N5 on day one of it's release. I returned it after three days of usage mainly because of the horrible battery life and very uncomfortable grip. I went back to the S4 until I saw the valentines day Motorola promo. I got a fully customized moto x with ebony wood back. ? I loved the size of my Gnex but I decided to skip the moto x when it first released. What a big mistake! This phone is very smooth and snappy, very comfortable to hold, and it has very useful features. I feel like THIS is the Nexus 5.
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I am extremely happy with my Verizon Dev edition. Build quality is A+ quality on this. Excellent fit and finish. The software is also excellent. I had a galaxy nexus before this phone and this phone is just so much better. Battery life on Verizon is excellent.

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