[Q] Permanently Removing System Apps - Moto X Q&A

Just got my Verizon MotoMaker Moto X in, rooted it, and am trying to remove the ****-ton of horrible, bloated system apps.
Unfortunately, it seems like every time I delete the .apk's from /system/app (using root adb or TitatiumBackup) the damn things come right back after reboot.
Is there some backup directory copies of the .apk's are stored in to get restored?
I seriously need to figure out how to zap these apps, or I am just going to send this phone right back - I'm not paying $400 for a device that is completely compromised right from the start.

PityOnU said:
Just got my Verizon MotoMaker Moto X in, rooted it, and am trying to remove the ****-ton of horrible, bloated system apps.
Unfortunately, it seems like every time I delete the .apk's from /system/app (using root adb or TitatiumBackup) the damn things come right back after reboot.
Is there some backup directory copies of the .apk's are stored in to get restored?
I seriously need to figure out how to zap these apps, or I am just going to send this phone right back - I'm not paying $400 for a device that is completely compromised right from the start.
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Has nothing to do with the phone , its an issue with your root method slapmymoto, you need to have the system set as r/w AFAIK
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flashallthetime said:
Has nothing to do with the phone , its an issue with your root method slapmymoto, you need to have the system set as r/w AFAIK
Sent on my Moto X
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I've been lying in bed, staring at the ceiling, thinking the same thing. Gave up on sleeping, so now I'll have another run at this.
Figure I'll flash back to 4.2.2 and follow the steps to upgrade to 4.4 and then root. Hopefully I will have better luck.

PityOnU said:
Just got my Verizon MotoMaker Moto X in, rooted it, and am trying to remove the ****-ton of horrible, bloated system apps.
Unfortunately, it seems like every time I delete the .apk's from /system/app (using root adb or TitatiumBackup) the damn things come right back after reboot.
Is there some backup directory copies of the .apk's are stored in to get restored?
I seriously need to figure out how to zap these apps, or I am just going to send this phone right back - I'm not paying $400 for a device that is completely compromised right from the start.
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You need to make sure you are in r/w mode. Reboot to recovery first.

mjphillips1981 said:
You need to make sure you are in r/w mode. Reboot to recovery first.
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This was the issue. This is my first experience with a firmware lock on a file system. Now I know!
Thanks for the help all!

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[Q] Reviewing Android Security - MUST be root?

So as a little side project I've tasked myself to review the security features and potential risks to data being stored within the Android OS and I've been using my Captivate as the test rat. Since pretty much everyone with an android device uses Gmail I wanted to focus first on the Gmail app. I know that information for many apps are stored under the /data/data/[app package]/databases directory structure in an SQL Lite *.db file.
That being said, I wanted to inquire with everyone here about being able to access the /data/data directory and all info there-in WITHOUT having to root the device. Im sure there might be some on that but Im just trying to be thorough in my review...any potential thief would obviously just instantly root and delve right in afterward the data but what other potential ways are there to get into that directory, if there are any?
I've been playing around with ADB and from what I can tell that is not a viable path. The only thing I could think of is somehow tricking the ADB daemon into thinking my phone is a development phone which would allow ADB to run as root but haven't found that to be possible.
So in any case, just looking for insight from the more experienced folk as to other avenues of attack against the user data beyond the obvious root method. Thanks very much for any help!
You can run adb shell as root if the phone is in clockworkmod recovery - but if someones going to the trouble of dropping a clockwork update.zip could just as well and as easy drop a root update.zip on the phone.
If someone physically gets a hold of your phone anything tied the google account/s on the phone would have to be considered compromised - as these phones are so easy to root anyway.
I just thought of another thing, if someone were to get a hold of your phone and have access to a computer with odin they could pretty quickly do a system dump (grab every file off your phone) return where you could find it without you ever knowing they got it.
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I just thought of another thing, if someone were to get a hold of your phone and have access to a computer with odin they could pretty quickly do a system dump (grab every file off your phone) return where you could find it without you ever knowing they got it.
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you dont need odin. adb will do it too
Pirateghost said:
you dont need odin. adb will do it too
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Can you do a system dump in adb without root?
dayv said:
Can you do a system dump in adb without root?
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yes
adb pull /system
Pirateghost said:
yes
adb pull /system
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Learn new things every day.
I like this phone allot, but there just is no way to secure it against someone physically gets their hands on it.
Pirateghost said:
yes
adb pull /system
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Yep thats actually very easy to do however it doesn't contain any critical private data really. I looked through the directories and while there is some interesting information that can be gleaned (e.g. the generic APN configs and other hardware information) there isn't any actual private stuff such as Gmail data, authentication info for apps, etc. That is all contained within the /data/data directory from what I understand.
You CAN get a list of all the packages on the device through /SYSTEM as well as all the APK's of the installed apps but otherwise not much I've found to be worrisome.
I'll have to check out Odin and see what that can offer from a non-root perspective.
Pirateghost said:
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adb pull /system
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But, that is why you don't leave USB debug on all the time - and why there is a warning when you do turn it on.
PIN or pattern lock keep prying eyes out, and protect your phone from ADB, but not if you leave USB debug on. But, like other hardware, if someone has physical access and enough time, they can get to your data.
So now that Im rooted, is there an easy way to write up a script to copy all files in the /data/data and whatever other folders I decide onto my PC?

Removed Dialer (I know...) No data, please assist.

So upon removing some of the bloat on my Droid 3, I broke mms and contacts. I successfully installed AOSP 2.3.5 mms so I thought I'd try to install stock contacts. I ended up backing up BlurPhone and BlurContacts and then deleting them and replacing them with the AOSP .apks... Now I have no data, and I can't restore the backups I made. I even pulled BlurPhone and BlurContacts from the Droid 3 system dump and pushed them to /system/app to no avail. Any ideas how to unbork my phone? Thanks.
Androidsims said:
So upon removing some of the bloat on my Droid 3, I broke mms and contacts. I successfully installed AOSP 2.3.5 mms so I thought I'd try to install stock contacts. I ended up backing up BlurPhone and BlurContacts and then deleting them and replacing them with the AOSP .apks... Now I have no data, and I can't restore the backups I made. I even pulled BlurPhone and BlurContacts from the Droid 3 system dump and pushed them to /system/app to no avail. Any ideas how to unbork my phone? Thanks.
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Factory Reset perhaps? Honestly, I'm a bit confused why you would do that to your device when we don't even have an SBF to restore to. Do you want an expensive new paper weight?
I had a temporary lapse of intelligence. I'm at work right now but I will attempt to push all system files back to the phone and do a restore. If that doesn't work, I've heard of people successfully flashing an Atrix SBF so I'll try that next. IF neither of those work, I'll beg Verizon to exchange it or I make an insurance claim, lol.
Yep I did the same thing. This could help, its a backup of the entire /system/app folder
media fire ...../?xntww3x2h2xow24
I can't figure out what I'm supposed to push back there to get functionality back. I know you have to repair perms after pushing.
Androidsims said:
I had a temporary lapse of intelligence. I'm at work right now but I will attempt to push all system files back to the phone and do a restore. If that doesn't work, I've heard of people successfully flashing an Atrix SBF so I'll try that next. IF neither of those work, I'll beg Verizon to exchange it or I make an insurance claim, lol.
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I believe what you may have heard about was people flashing the Atrix preinstall partition in an effort to find a root exploit (which ultimately turned out to be a dead end). This is entirely different from flashing an Atrix SBF. If you attempt to do this, you're almost certain to brick your phone.
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RandomEncounter said:
I believe what you may have heard about was people flashing the Atrix preinstall partition in an effort to find a root exploit (which ultimately turned out to be a dead end). This is entirely different from flashing an Atrix SBF. If you attempt to do this, you're almost certain to brick your phone.
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That is what i meant, the root.img. Sleepy, sorry.
Still no headway with this thing... might be stopping by Verizon tomorrow.
First off, did you push the odex files for those 2 apks as well? I don't know the significance of them, but if they were in the system dump, it's probably a good idea to put them in the /system/app directory.
Second, did you fix the permissions and owner of the files you pushed?
Javier78 said:
First off, did you push the odex files for those 2 apks as well? I don't know the significance of them, but if they were in the system dump, it's probably a good idea to put them in the /system/app directory.
Second, did you fix the permissions and owner of the files you pushed?
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Yes and yes.
...Huh. Well, I'm not entirely sure what to do then (I've never dealt with the dialer). My best advice would be to play dumb when you go exchange it.
Sorry!
For me I think I'm going to just leave it like it is until the first custom ROM appears.
There are some bloatware that is ok to remove. I removed most of the ones that you can just re-download from the Market like: NFLMobile, ZumoCast, GuidedTours, Slackerradio, Citrix, BlockBuster, and MyVerizon. I did not touch a lot of the main VZW apps that they put on out of fear of some other part of android being tied to them. But random apps like the BlockBuster and SlackerRadio are fine to remove.
Why not just install a 3rd party dialer such as GoDialer or something until we get an sbf?
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You might check to see if they were disabled with package manager. Enter pm list packages -d from the command line.
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Unroot?

Is it possible to unroot after using the 1 Click Root? I'm coming from a rooted Droid Eris and I remember the first few people who rooted their Erises had lots of problems and I just wanna make sure we can go back and re-root if a better root process comes along later on...
magicelf said:
Is it possible to unroot after using the 1 Click Root? I'm coming from a rooted Droid Eris and I remember the first few people who rooted their Erises had lots of problems and I just wanna make sure we can go back and re-root if a better root process comes along later on...
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Yes, but you'd have to do it manually at this point.
You'd delete busybox and su, uninstall superuser.apk, and there may be a symlink you need to undo, but I think the latest one-click cleans that up. I'd have to go back and check.
And any bloat you froze needs to be unfrozen, or bloat removed needs to be restored.
Okay, first version of this tool, be kind and let me know if there are any problems with it.
Also: NO GUARANTEES. If it does something that breaks your phone, I am not liable. Use at your own risk. Etc., etc.
http://www.psouza4.com/Droid3/PetesMotorolaRootTools_v1.03.zip
UPDATE 9/1/2011: version 1.03
I'm trying the one touch unroot and keep getting an error about the /sdcard/d3unroot folder missing files.
I extracted all of the APKs from your link to my /sdcard/d3unroot directory, but for some reason one touch unroot will not work.
The root worked great
same error here...
Get that error as well
Same here.
Why does it even need that to un-root @ that point?
I'm getting the same error.
Is it really a one-click method?
I'm a dummy so I think I'm gonna wait for some clarity.
Thanks for doing this, man!
Fully re-written and should un-root and restore /system/app for both v5.5.959 and v5.6.890. Enjoy!
http://www.psouza4.com/Droid3/PetesMotorolaRootTools_v1.03.zip
This program is for Windows only and can:
root your device (most Motorola Gingerbread devices)
unroot your device
restore your /system/app, even if you deleted files
And a bit more, such as un-freezing apps if you un-root just like Titanium Backup can.
So how do I do this. Is it the same as the one click root meaning unzip the file and put my phone into charging mode and let it do its thing
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spacecasespiff said:
So how do I do this. Is it the same as the one click root meaning unzip the file and put my phone into charging mode and let it do its thing
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Pretty much -- this is an all-in-one. It'll tell you where to download files and where to put them when you begin.
I guess I'm just retarded I can't get this to work. I give up. Looks like I'm gonna have to get VZ to mail me a new D3
Yonnor said:
I guess I'm just retarded I can't get this to work. I give up. Looks like I'm gonna have to get VZ to mail me a new D3
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Why can't you? More than willing to help, but have to tell me what the problem is. And bear in mind that I put out a new version less than 2 hours ago that fixes a LOT (it's a full rewrite).
ok ive downloaded the file to my computer.
Keep getting the error for the Restore data not being in the right place. I've extracted the files to the right spot (I think)
is the restore folder supposed to be located in the Root Tools folder, and then all the apk's placed that Restore folder?
Yonnor said:
Keep getting the error for the Restore data not being in the right place. I've extracted the files to the right spot (I think)
is the restore folder supposed to be located in the Root Tools folder, and then all the apk's placed that Restore folder?
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Basically, yes.
I'll use your desktop as an example, so if you have:
Desktop\New Folder\Pete's Motorola Root Tools.exe
Then you'll want to extract all the files for the /system/app fix to:
Desktop\New Folder\restore
So that you have:
Desktop\New Folder\restore\AccountAndSyncSettings.apk
Desktop\New Folder\restore\AccountAndSyncSettings.odex
Desktop\New Folder\restore\AdminFeedNotifier.apk
etc.
This assumes you are using my new version 1.03.
psouza4 said:
Basically, yes.
I'll use your desktop as an example, so if you have:
Desktop\New Folder\Pete's Motorola Root Tools.exe
Then you'll want to extract all the files for the /system/app fix to:
Desktop\New Folder\restore
So that you have:
Desktop\New Folder\restore\AccountAndSyncSettings.apk
Desktop\New Folder\restore\AccountAndSyncSettings.odex
Desktop\New Folder\restore\AdminFeedNotifier.apk
etc.
This assumes you are using my new version 1.03.
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Ok thank you, I'll give this a shot again.
EDIT: I have it set up as:
Desktop/PetesMotorolaRootTools_v1.03/restore/(all the apk's)
And I'm still getting the:
ERROR: /restore/ backup doesn't exist or is incomplete! etc etc
ok i just unrooted and all is good now im rooting agian. so thank you for this on click unroot meathod. its good to know that if i want to unroot i can. You should put this on every forum that you can. I will aslo tell people about it. You did a good thing for the people on this one. I think a lot of new people will whant to root now that they have a way to undo it.
Lol well like 8th try and I got it to work. Sorry for pestering you so much.

[Q] Stock ROM (SBF) Available for Droid 4?

I ... may have bricked my Droid 4. I won't go into details unless somebody asks, but I don't think it's necessary. I AM able to get to the recovery mode though, I just have nothing to recover from.... I misplaced my back-up.
So, I need SOMETHING to flash my phone to. 4.0/2.0/I don't care, I just need any rom/SBF to make this bad boy boot again. Anybody have anything?
I saw and downloaded the first thing that shows up when you google "droid-4-system-dump-wallpapers-ringtones.html" (link doesn't work because I'm new) But, I was unable to make anything of it.... What do I do?
Just to help others avoid the same fate can you please let us all know what you did?
zeroibis said:
Just to help others avoid the same fate can you please let us all know what you did?
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Well, in hindsight it was kind of dumb. I rooted it, and began to remove all of the VZW sponsored apps. Once I did that, it cleared out a lot of memory (storage AND ram) but seemed to come with the downside of preventing my "settings" activity opening up. As in, whenever I hit "menu" then "Settings" from the main launcher, it would force close behind the scenes (logcat showed the stack trace for the settings activity).
I spent the next day trying to fix that issue, copying "settings.apk" from that link I mentioned earlier to my root director, but that didn't fix it. So, I went and tried copying entire folders over. This is the embarrassing part... I hit a 'delete' button on the "system/apps" folder, got about 30 force close windows, and am now stuck in a bootloop.
Doing the "power + both volume buttons" still gives me the recovery menu, but I don't have anything to recover to, as I was stupid and didn't think to make a backup.
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Well, in hindsight it was kind of dumb. I rooted it, and began to remove all of the VZW sponsored apps. Once I did that, it cleared out a lot of memory (storage AND ram) but seemed to come with the downside of preventing my "settings" activity opening up. As in, whenever I hit "menu" then "Settings" from the main launcher, it would force close behind the scenes (logcat showed the stack trace for the settings activity).
I spent the next day trying to fix that issue, copying "settings.apk" from that link I mentioned earlier to my root director, but that didn't fix it. So, I went and tried copying entire folders over. This is the embarrassing part... I hit a 'delete' button on the "system/apps" folder, got about 30 force close windows, and am now stuck in a bootloop.
Doing the "power + both volume buttons" still gives me the recovery menu, but I don't have anything to recover to, as I was stupid and didn't think to make a backup.
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No files are floating around at this time. You really screwed yourself over on this one. Go back to Verizon and beg. You chose to void your warranty.
Dwebtron said:
Well, in hindsight it was kind of dumb. I rooted it, and began to remove all of the VZW sponsored apps. Once I did that, it cleared out a lot of memory (storage AND ram) but seemed to come with the downside of preventing my "settings" activity opening up. As in, whenever I hit "menu" then "Settings" from the main launcher, it would force close behind the scenes (logcat showed the stack trace for the settings activity).
I spent the next day trying to fix that issue, copying "settings.apk" from that link I mentioned earlier to my root director, but that didn't fix it. So, I went and tried copying entire folders over. This is the embarrassing part... I hit a 'delete' button on the "system/apps" folder, got about 30 force close windows, and am now stuck in a bootloop.
Doing the "power + both volume buttons" still gives me the recovery menu, but I don't have anything to recover to, as I was stupid and didn't think to make a backup.
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I'm curious about this too - I deleted a bunch of vzw garbage. I did make a copy of of everything with titanium backup first but when I tried re-installing one of them it just hung while another re-installed fine.
I had a similar issue with one app - I had to go into /system/app and change it form RO to RW. Once Read/Write was enabled, Titanium was able to restore the app.
I have been playing it safe and only freezing the apps, not deleting them. I have had no FC or any odd behavior. I figured with an allocated 3 gb to applications, at this time gaining an extra 100MB of storage space is superfluous...especially with no SBF available.
As mentioned above, try going to the VZW store and getting an exchange. I'm certain an .sbf will be released at some point but it could be weeks/months before that happens.
And for future reference/anyone else reading this thread...never delete system apps! Just freeze them. Yes they will still be taking up space, but they won't be using any memory and they won't show up in your launcher so it's basically the same thing...except with freezing it is 100% reversible and will still allow you to receive updates.
Can someone upload these files from D4:
/system/build.prop
/system/default.prop
Freeze Apps
SGMD1 said:
As mentioned above, try going to the VZW store and getting an exchange. I'm certain an .sbf will be released at some point but it could be weeks/months before that happens.
And for future reference/anyone else reading this thread...never delete system apps! Just freeze them. Yes they will still be taking up space, but they won't be using any memory and they won't show up in your launcher so it's basically the same thing...except with freezing it is 100% reversible and will still allow you to receive updates.
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What is the best way to freeze apps? I know you can do this with Titanium Backup. Do you need the pro version in order to do this? Are there other apps out there that also allow you to freeze apps?
kwyrt said:
What is the best way to freeze apps? I know you can do this with Titanium Backup. Do you need the pro version in order to do this? Are there other apps out there that also allow you to freeze apps?
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You do need the Pro version of Titanium Backup to freeze apps I believe. There are free apps that will do it (i.e. Bloatware Killer) but I am not really familiar with them.
Skrilax_CZ said:
Can someone upload these files from D4:
/system/build.prop
/system/default.prop
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http://db.tt/LymDelkf
That zip contains the 2 files you asked for. Anything else you need just ask and I can pull it for you. I havent done a dd of all the partitons yet but will be doing that as soon as I can.
cellzealot said:
That zip contains the 2 files you asked for. Anything else you need just ask and I can pull it for you. I havent done a dd of all the partitons yet but will be doing that as soon as I can.
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The link that I was referring to in the first post SHOULD have every file from the D4.
I meant if he needed any of the other partitions besides the system.
I wanted to give him exactly what he asked for because he is avery sharp guy who may help us out with this device.
Unfortunately I did the same (though not as bad...I just can't open any of my contacts). I changed the permissions for /system/apps but I still am hanging at restoring in Titanium Backup. Are there any other directories that should have changed permissions to get some of these apps restored?
Also, lesson learned....freeze no uninstall
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No files are floating around at this time. You really screwed yourself over on this one. Go back to Verizon and beg. You chose to void your warranty.
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Yeah so what? Why do people feel the need to post condescending comments for no reason? Its because of mistakes and screwups that the community progresses. There will be files floating around by the weekend, I'm sure.
I'm in the same boat... I bricked by droid 4... now waiting for a sbf file... someone said go to vzw and beg... has anyone ever tried that, after bricking your phone? what did you say? and did it work?
I'm just trying to figure out how to get vzw to replace this phone.
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reigndropz said:
Yeah so what? Why do people feel the need to post condescending comments for no reason? Its because of mistakes and screwups that the community progresses. There will be files floating around by the weekend, I'm sure.
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The files will be released by the weekend? YAY... how do you know?
Also what does it take/what has to be done for someone to release these sbf files?
jgardner said:
Unfortunately I did the same (though not as bad...I just can't open any of my contacts). I changed the permissions for /system/apps but I still am hanging at restoring in Titanium Backup. Are there any other directories that should have changed permissions to get some of these apps restored?
Also, lesson learned....freeze no uninstall
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That's the only path I had to change. Do you recall if you happened to have moved an app to a different path (perhaps to the sd-card) then removed it?
Are there multiple apps you are trying to restore? If so, have you tried restoring them one at a time?
im going to wait for the sbf files before any major modifications to my phone, then we can all start the fun
i just froze apps to prevent them from running, im not worried about space since i put in a 32GB SD card
I think it's very wise to wait for the firmware to be released, but it's worth noting that the term SBF is a mistaken reference to the old format for firmware files and that all dual core Motorolas have fastboot support now and RSD Lite has been modified to support this and uses xml.zip files that are sets of signed images rather than the Single Binary File(SBF).
This is a very important distinction to be made as the new format and boot menu provide many more options for controlling the flash process for the end user and it is ultimately much safer and more flexible.

Block OTAs? (possible upcoming 4.4.4)

Heya guys. I couldn't find much info on this for the X, and certainly not anything about this particular update.
I'm not too fond of jumping on board a new ship before I get a good look at it.
Has anyone before successfully blocked an incoming OTA update? I'm particularly interested in VZW moto Xs, though any info is helpful.
In a nutshell, I'm aiming to block the 4.4.4 OTA on a non-dev, non-rooted VZW moto X.
I'm sure it may not be possible without root, but I'm interested in opinions.
Just hit no when it tells you havĂȘ a new update
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chrisp6825 said:
Heya guys. I couldn't find much info on this for the X, and certainly not anything about this particular update.
I'm not too fond of jumping on board a new ship before I get a good look at it.
Has anyone before successfully blocked an incoming OTA update? I'm particularly interested in VZW moto Xs, though any info is helpful.
In a nutshell, I'm aiming to block the 4.4.4 OTA on a non-dev, non-rooted VZW moto X.
I'm sure it may not be possible without root, but I'm interested in opinions.
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using titanium backup or some program like it just freeze Motorola ota that should stop all ota notifications
kelvinmorcillo said:
Just hit no when it tells you havĂȘ a new update
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Ah, I wasn't aware OTAs on this phone were optional. Some devices force them ASAP on a boot-up if available. Good to hear, and I hope it stays true.
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using titanium backup or some program like it just freeze Motorola ota that should stop all ota notifications
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I'm not able to do this. Otherwise, I would. Root free, dev free, that's the life for me... for the time being at least...
chrisp6825 said:
Ah, I wasn't aware OTAs on this phone were optional. Some devices force them ASAP on a boot-up if available. Good to hear, and I hope it stays true.
I'm not able to do this. Otherwise, I would. Root free, dev free, that's the life for me... for the time being at least...
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To stop the updates, this will do it but you will have to redo this everytime you reboot until you are rooted in stone not temp like Pie.. but this will stop any updates from coming to the phone and stop you from forcing an update. the two files Ive changed the name of the first two in the pic, it's the root / system / pri apps folder, I added .bak to the name, you have to do both of them.
If you don't rename them after every boot when you lose Pie they revert back to original and you will get the notice again and you might accidentally hit install when the notice pops up.. so just re Pie and change them.. I use FX explorer with root addon. It's a great app and free and takes less than a minute to rename the files.
Looks like the OTA reached me. It creates a permanent notification from the MotoOTA app.
Without write-protection enabled, you can't disable this app permanently. Most likely in a temp-root instance, freezing it in titanium backup may not take effect on the app til reboot, or possibly a hot-reboot.
I just un-enabled notifications for the app, though I'm hoping it won't auto download during idle.
And apparently (I'm) not able to freeze it. See screen shots.
tapa'd on my moto x
chrisp6825 said:
Looks like the OTA reached me. It creates a permanent notification from the MotoOTA app.
Without write-protection enabled, you can't disable this app permanently. Most likely in a temp-root instance, freezing it in titanium backup may not take effect on the app til reboot, or possibly a hot-reboot.
I just un-enabled notifications for the app, though I'm hoping it won't auto download during idle.
And apparently (I'm) not able to freeze it. See screen shots.
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It won't install automatically...almost guaranteed.
But why can't you freeze it? You should be able to click it, opening up a menu with a freeze option. My guess is that it will revert back to 'unfrozen' after the next reboot, but I HAVE seen a post or two that suggests otherwise (not sure how reputable, if at all).
I have several system apps frozen (mostly the google play music/movies/games/etc. bloat, along with a couple others). The fact that it is red just indicates it is a system app. You might have to mount /system r/w in order to be able to freeze it, but once again, I've read some posts suggesting that mounting r/w was tricky with the temp-root (and of course, will revert all changes upon reboot).
I would give you more definitive answers, but since I'm unlocked, its difficult for me to test...
Good Luck! If you can just put up with the nag, you'll be fine. As you well know, once you accept it, it's game-over for root.
Chris forget about that freeze crap do what I said to do and you won't have any issues I did it yesterday.. rebooted the phone lost towelpie got the 4.4.4 notice started downloading because wanted to know what it was.. than ran towelpie, went to a root/system/priv-apps and deleted the 3c ota files and it stopped that download as it was downloading. i wanted to download it to see what it was so i had to reboot the phone to get rid of towelpie and that got the 3c ota files back and then it rebegan the download I don't use Titanium Backup I just manually delete. I did it Verizon 4.4.2 non dev locked boot
now after I downloaded 4.4.4 and rooted with towelPie.. it did cause the root to act kind of funny I went into FX root explorer tried to rename the 3c ota files after mounting Fx Explorer in write mode it still told me the files were not writable that must have had something to do with the new download.. so my corrective action was to go into fx root explorer cashe folder send that new update into outerfreakin space then reboot the phone retowelpie and then mount fx Explorer in write mode again and deleted 3c ota files and had no problem after rebooting.. but once you download that file it permanently does something to your phone until you delete it from the cashe folder and reboot.
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It won't install automatically...almost guaranteed.
But why can't you freeze it?
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In that screen shot, I had just attempted to freeze it 3 times. It's as if I haven't even tried though.
As long as it won't auto download, I'm cool with it. Kit Kat or jelly bean introduced the option to disable notifications from apps, so that gets it out of my way.
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Once you delete the 3c_ota.apk and 3c_ota.odex files your phone is NOT capable of checking for or downloading an OTA.
And towelPie root allows you to delete these files if you use FX explorer with root add-on, its available in playstore, and explains how to mount in write mode allowing you to rename or delete any file, it takes all of 10 seconds.
FX file explorer
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.fx&hl=en
Root add-on for for FX explorer to access root files
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.fx.rr&hl=en
Right, but this is something that obviously has to be done every boot, and I imagine may need to be soft-rebooted after to take effect, so the app won't load during boot.
I may do that our write a quick script to take care of it each rooted boot for me in a while. Thanks for the info
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So I just renamed the system files... So much for not trying to auto update. Then next screen after I hit later asked me to select a time of day for the next reminder.
Silly.
I'll see if I still get this after the files are renamed.
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Renamed my files. So far, no notification. Thx.
chrisp6825 said:
So I just renamed the system files... So much for not trying to auto update. Then next screen after I hit later asked me to select a time of day for the next reminder.
Silly.
I'll see if I still get this after the files are renamed.
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you have to go into system root cashe folder and send the downloaded file to kingdome come than you wont get the install prompt. the phone is not capable of downloading the update if you rename the files
the file in cashe is that the Verizon ghost zip?delete then re name the other ota in priv folder?
Thanks
gmmurphy said:
the file in cashe is that the Verizon ghost zip?delete then re name the other ota in priv folder?
Thanks
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that is it. either delete it, rename it, or move someplace else (like /sdcard)
I froze MotorolaOTA 1.0 in Titanium Backup using Towel Root. (Also works using Pie Root). Blocks of obedience obnoxious update requests.
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