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- Idea: Want to play Mobile Games on my big HD TV (has no DLNA), only solution so far: MHL Cable, but this is a pain in the a s s you need a MHL Adapter, a Charging Cable and a 5 meter HDMI Cable. b*tch please. that's no fun.
- Problem: TV has no DLNA function where i could mirror the Mobile Phone screen, else it would be solved.
Is there a Solution?
my PC is connected with DVI-HDMI to the HD TV, so if i could make my PC work like a DLNA Receiver with VLC Player or something, maybe i could get the Xperia Z find my PC in the LAN as DLNA device and stream the Xperia Screen (Games, Videos) to the PC VLC Player and watch it on my TV then like i play games on my PC.
Is this possible and how ?
DLNA will not enable you to play games on your tv. It will allow the playback of media.
You need something to mirror the phone image. Like MirrorLink. Which isn't available yet.
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ok, that's what i thought in the first place.
i contacted the sony support today and they told me that i can not play games from my phone on my older sony bravia tv without a MHL Adapter Cable (Micro USB to HDMI), but with a newer DLAN TV (yes DLAN, he thought it is correct like this, in the end i told him it's called DLNA).
that's where my thoughts came from, that a pc may also be able to view the screen picture and act as a DLNA Receiver like the newer DLNA TVs.
It's not DLNA, it's Miracast. Currently no solution to have your computer act as receiver exists, but it is theoretically possible on any device with WiFi and WiFi Direct.
Remember though that wireless mirroring doesn't work simultaneously with regular WiFi and has over a second delay.
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Ambroos said:
It's not DLNA, it's Miracast. Currently no solution to have your computer act as receiver exists, but it is theoretically possible on any device with WiFi and WiFi Direct.
Remember though that wireless mirroring doesn't work simultaneously with regular WiFi and has over a second delay.
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You could play limited media through your laptops DLNA server from the phone, just select your computer from the throw settings. But of course you will have to have the computer connected to the TV.
One scond delay over wifi, dude you need a new router or network config, there is a delay, but I would suggest it shouldn't be one second, this would be due to the connected device rendering the image for display not WIFI lag.
Yes as for using your tv for what you are asking MHL is really your only option
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You could play limited media through your laptops DLNA server from the phone, just select your computer from the throw settings. But of course you will have to have the computer connected to the TV.
One scond delay over wifi, dude you need a new router or network config, there is a delay, but I would suggest it shouldn't be one second, this would be due to the connected device rendering the image for display not WIFI lag.
Yes as for using your tv for what you are asking MHL is really your only option
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He asked about mirroring, not streaming. Streaming music or movies to your pc is easy, I just use foobar for that (music only).
Miracast doesn't use your router at all, it's WiFi Direct which means it goes directly from your phone to the receiving device. You obviously haven't tried it because there really is quite some delay. Your phone has to compress the display data on the fly, transmit it and then the receiver needs to decode it. Don't expect that too be to fast. Check some YouTube videos and you'll see there is a delay.
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He asked about mirroring, not streaming. Streaming music or movies to your pc is easy, I just use foobar for that (music only).
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Yep and what do you think DLNA is??? Only streaming of various media types. So the answer is clearly NO. That was his question. And that is what I told him
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Miracast doesn't use your router at all, it's WiFi Direct which means it goes directly from your phone to the receiving device. You obviously haven't tried it because there really is quite some delay. Your phone has to compress the display data on the fly, transmit it and then the receiver needs to decode it. Don't expect that too be to fast. Check some YouTube videos and you'll see there is a delay.
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Yes I wasn't referring to WIFI direct nor miracast, and neither were you in your quote stating about the over one second delay, well at least you didn't make that clear. I was referring to using wifi to mirror my screen on my Sony TV, and I state that quite clearly.
You ovbiously got out of the wrong side of the bed
What happened? I decided to try to play video content with the one video that I had no problem. On my Samsung TV got a popup stating that a AllShare device was detected, I click okay, video plays in like a player window format, I back out to folders from my tablet showing! My source shows AllShare BubbleUPnP device. Confused but happier!
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What happened? I decided to try to play video content with the one video that I had no problem. On my Samsung TV got a popup stating that a AllShare device was detected, I click okay, video plays in like a player window format, I back out to folders from my tablet showing! My source shows AllShare BubbleUPnP device. Confused but happier!
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You still have the new Koush Cast (/AllCast/AirCast) installed?
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You still have the new Koush Cast (/AllCast/AirCast) installed?
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The new Koushcast? No, I read that Chromecast support was removed.
I think I know what happened. I have a Samsung WiFi adapter plugged in but have used it on a old laptop and it was plugged into USB port that might be a service port or whatever. I discovered that since using AllCast and never tried it again since. BubbleUpnP is just using WiFi to stream although I couldn't get back to my folder with the videos unless I used AllCast to start a video.
I've tried BubbleUPnP in the past but remember next to nothing! Navigating folders on the TV is a PITA, I do remember that.
The author of BubbleUPnP did mention supporting Chromecast in the future. At first I thought that they did, my mistake. Make that two mistakes!
I powered down/up, I was able to play compatible videos with the Chromecast that start with a good delay without using BubbleUPnP just AllCast. Videos that don't play with Chromecast from an Android device won't play using Chrome on a PC either nor cast.
Compatible videos is the key to success.
Interesting! I was hoping you had magically solved Android screen mirroring with Chromecast - my TV is too old to support DLNA video, only pictures and music.
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Interesting! I was hoping you had magically solved Android screen mirroring with Chromecast - my TV is too old to support DLNA video, only pictures and music.
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Sorry I got your hopes for nothing. I use to have the phrase "Most confused!" in my signature in another forum, maybe I should include it here as well.
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Sorry I got your hopes for nothing. I use to have the phrase "Most confused!" in my signature in another forum, maybe I should include it here as well.
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LOL no worries. Less-intelligent people would simply accept. Confusion means you're still thinking and trying to make sense of things.
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LOL no worries. Less-intelligent people would simply accept. Confusion means you're still thinking and trying to make sense of things.
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I may have had my Samsung WiFi adapter plugged into the right USB port after all! I tried to access my PC from the TV and I had no connection because the setup was changed from a wireless connection back to wired again. This means that the use of BubbleUPnP, Allcast or Chromecast hoses the setup. I tried to use each one but couldn't get it to repeat. Some TVs comes with WiFi built in, I wonder if this is a issue with them or just because in my case, I was using an external WiFi adapter?
BubbleUPnP updated for the second time today, must have introduced a bug earlier.
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I may have had my Samsung WiFi adapter plugged into the right USB port after all! I tried to access my PC from the TV and I had no connection because the setup was changed from a wireless connection back to wired again. This means that the use of BubbleUPnP, Allcast or Chromecast hoses the setup. I tried to use each one but couldn't get it to repeat. Some TVs comes with WiFi built in, I wonder if this is a issue with them or just because in my case, I was using an external WiFi adapter?
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Chromecast has its own wireless connection to your wireless router or access point, so I can't think of a reason why Chromecast would have any interaction with the TV's network connection.
Am I following you correctly that you have a wired network connection on your TV and the wireless USB adapter connected to your TV, and both are connected? If the wired connection on the TV is hooked up there should be no need to have the WiFi adapter as well, unless you have a really complicated network setup.
As long as both the TV and your DLNA source are on the same network, doesn't matter whether one is wired or the other is wireless. Unless something like AP isolation keeps the wireless clients from "seeing" the wired clients (uncommon), or the wired and wireless networks are on different subnets (rare).
tl;dr - try unplugging either your TV's WiFi adapter or the network cable on the TV. Do whatever is necessary to make the single connection work - and then try everything else. Everything should work.
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Chromecast has its own wireless connection to your wireless router or access point, so I can't think of a reason why Chromecast would have any interaction with the TV's network connection.
Am I following you correctly that you have a wired network connection on your TV and the wireless USB adapter connected to your TV, and both are connected? If the wired connection on the TV is hooked up there should be no need to have the WiFi adapter as well, unless you have a really complicated network setup.
As long as both the TV and your DLNA source are on the same network, doesn't matter whether one is wired or the other is wireless. Unless something like AP isolation keeps the wireless clients from "seeing" the wired clients (uncommon), or the wired and wireless networks are on different subnets (rare).
tl;dr - try unplugging either your TV's WiFi adapter or the network cable on the TV. Do whatever is necessary to make the single connection work - and then try everything else. Everything should work.
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Yes the Chrome cast has its own WiFi connection.
I have either the wired or wireless option but there is no wired connection to it that's why I had to get the Samsung WiFi adapter.
I was able to switch back/forth several times between DLNA(BubbleUPnP), TV WiFi and Allcast without losing any of them. I have no idea how or why but it did happen "once" or actually "twice".
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I was able to switch back/forth several times between DLNA(BubbleUPnP), TV WiFi and Allcast without losing any of them. I have no idea how or why but it did happen "once" or actually "twice".
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Ahh okay, I misunderstood. I thought your TV had a wired connection too.
It's possible the Chromecast and Samsung WiFi adapter are too close and therefore causing signal interference, so the Samsung WiFi adapter might have went back into a disconnected mode and the TV wanted it set up again. *shrug*
Worst case you could get a USB or HDMI extension cable, I guess. I have a ~10-foot HDMI extension cable on my Chromecast because it's connected to my sound bar's I/O box. At first it was to troubleshoot the Internet connectivity problems I was having (which were fixed with update to 13300), then I decide to leave it as it's much more convenient to access my Chromecast when I don't have to contort myself behind stuff, heh.
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Ahh okay, I misunderstood. I thought your TV had a wired connection too.
It's possible the Chromecast and Samsung WiFi adapter are too close and therefore causing signal interference, so the Samsung WiFi adapter might have went back into a disconnected mode and the TV wanted it set up again. *shrug*
Worst case you could get a USB extension cable, I guess.
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Just got my HDMI 90 adapter today, see what happens next to me?
The Samsung adapter is no cheapy from what I've read about it. No PC drivers for it but I researched its chip and managed to hack a INF for use on my old XP laptop, IIRC it comes up as a Linksys device.
Is there a way I can view my movies that are stored on my external hard drive through chromecast?
I travel extensively and I do not carry a laptop (if I did, yes simple hdmi into the tv) but I don't have that luxury. I have a tf300 and nex 7-2013 and rooted n2
Thanks
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ganggreen777 said:
Is there a way I can view my movies that are stored on my external hard drive through chromecast?
I travel extensively and I do not carry a laptop (if I did, yes simple hdmi into the tv) but I don't have that luxury. I have a tf300 and nex 7-2013 and rooted n2
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Your TF300 doesn't have HDMI output? My wife's original Transformer has Mini-HDMI. Add cheap adapter or Mini-to-regular HDMI cable and it has HDMI to TV.
Do either of your devices support attached USB storage? If so, one of the apps that supports casting of device-local media would work - Avia, AllCast, RealPlayer Cloud...
You may not be able to cast all your media, especially if it's not in a Chromecast-compatible format, so if you have HDMI output, it's much less headache and more versatile (play way more formats with MX Player, etc), save for being wired.
Use a micro usb otg cable to mount as storage to your android phone, may require a special kernel, and Allcast/Chromecast combo to stream to the tv should do the trick. Course I haven't tried mounting a huge hard drive to my nexus. But a small 32gb flash stick works.
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bhiga said:
Your TF300 doesn't have HDMI output? My wife's original Transformer has Mini-HDMI. Add cheap adapter or Mini-to-regular HDMI cable and it has HDMI to TV.
Do either of your devices support attached USB storage? If so, one of the apps that supports casting of device-local media would work - Avia, AllCast, RealPlayer Cloud...
You may not be able to cast all your media, especially if it's not in a Chromecast-compatible format, so if you have HDMI output, it's much less headache and more versatile (play way more formats with MX Player, etc), save for being wired.
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O I definitely plugs my terabyte to the keyboard and plugs hdmi....it works flawlessly. Just trying to figure wirelessly
(I do use ravpower rp_wd01 and airstor .....and plug hdmi from tf300 into tv. Want to use cc while tapping into my terabyte
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ganggreen777 said:
O I definitely plugs my terabyte to the keyboard and plugs hdmi....it works flawlessly. Just trying to figure wirelessly
(I do use ravpower rp_wd01 and airstor .....and plug hdmi from tf300 into tv. Want to use cc while tapping into my terabyte
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AllCast, Avia or RealPlayer Cloud should work, but verify it can access your external storage before buying.
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I love allcast .....all of these apps read what's in your phone...I'm trying to get my phone or tablets to read my external hd then cast to cc...that's pretty much the crux of what I'm looking to do
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External storage is usually handled similar to SD card, as in it's mounted as a folder like /mnt/usb1 or / storage/usbdrive so it's whether the app scans that location. Actually, Avia and probably others let you share to our, so you could use a file manager to browse then share to the casting app.
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O I definitely plugs my terabyte to the keyboard and plugs hdmi....it works flawlessly. Just trying to figure wirelessly
(I do use ravpower rp_wd01 and airstor .....and plug hdmi from tf300 into tv. Want to use cc while tapping into my terabyte
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The Ravpower should be getting a firmware update in April (and there's a new version of the hardware coming too apparently) which will give it DLNA support as well as SMB. That may make things a little simpler for hooking things up.
I must admit I'm in a similar position - I too use a portable HD and a WD01 when travelling, although at the moment it's via my work laptop and Displayport-->HDMI adaptor and cable (I don't plug the HD directly into the laptop as the AV then insists on scanning it, not quick for a 2TB drive). But I'm hoping soon to be able to do something direct using an HDMI dongle of some flavour, DLNA on the WD01 and control via either my Nexus7 or my HTC8X. Other alternative is Avia or similar to read SMB from the WD01 to my Nexus 7 and then cast it out to a CC. But I presume that will tie-up the tablet from being usable for much else whilst doing so? And of course there doesn't seem to be anything for CC on WinPhone8 yet.
A question from my side to people who know (now that Google have released the CC in the UK) - is there any way to do DLNA display with one? I recall reading somewhere that the plex app might work for that, but I'm not sure. Currently in two minds whether to go with a CC or a Chinese DLNA dongle (an EZCast or similar). Most of the time it's used in hotels abroad, so would be for playing local stuff as IP address (and network speed) would stomp iPlayer et al. Any recommendations between the two options from people who have experience or have done similar would be gratefully received.
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The Ravpower should be getting a firmware update in April (and there's a new version of the hardware coming too apparently) which will give it DLNA support as well as SMB. That may make things a little simpler for hooking things up.
I must admit I'm in a similar position - I too use a portable HD and a WD01 when travelling, although at the moment it's via my work laptop and Displayport-->HDMI adaptor and cable (I don't plug the HD directly into the laptop as the AV then insists on scanning it, not quick for a 2TB drive). But I'm hoping soon to be able to do something direct using an HDMI dongle of some flavour, DLNA on the WD01 and control via either my Nexus7 or my HTC8X. Other alternative is Avia or similar to read SMB from the WD01 to my Nexus 7 and then cast it out to a CC. But I presume that will tie-up the tablet from being usable for much else whilst doing so? And of course there doesn't seem to be anything for CC on WinPhone8 yet.
A question from my side to people who know (now that Google have released the CC in the UK) - is there any way to do DLNA display with one? I recall reading somewhere that the plex app might work for that, but I'm not sure. Currently in two minds whether to go with a CC or a Chinese DLNA dongle (an EZCast or similar). Most of the time it's used in hotels abroad, so would be for playing local stuff as IP address (and network speed) would stomp iPlayer et al. Any recommendations between the two options from people who have experience or have done similar would be gratefully received.
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Casting from another server using Avia will "tie up" the device and use 3X the media bandwidth on the network (NAS->Device + Device->AP + AP->Chromecast) if the source is NAS, 2X for local media on the device (Device->AP + AP->Chromecast).
To be honest, if you're a regular traveler that needs/wants to play media, a standalone media player like WDTV, Roku, Popcorn Hour,etc would be a better/more convenient solution.
Media Player - 2 or 3 pieces
Media Player
Storage device
Wireless bridge, dongle or router if necessary
Chromecast - 4 pieces
Chromecast
Storage device
Wireless router (using premise wireless usually will not work and even if it does bandwidth will be an issue)
Phone/Tablet/Laptop to "drive" Chromecast
True - I think I'm going to go the DLNA dongle route. Had a quick look at a Chromecast this lunchtime at PC World (and a chat with a Google demonstrator). Looks a nice bit of kit to turn a suitable dumb TV into a smart one, but not quite what I want in this case. The media is already on a portable HD, and the Ravpower WD-01 is a portable hotspot anyway, so basically between the two (which I carry anyway) it's a portable NAS (soon with DLNA hopefully).
So once that is in place, the dongle and WD-01 should then form a DLNA pair (as player/renderer and server respectively) with either my N7 or 8X as the controller.
The Chromecast does look nice though generally, albeit rather odd that it doesn't have DLNA/Airplay support generally (although I guess by adding the Plex app you could get something like that?). But I guess that's not quite what they had in mind for it.
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The Chromecast does look nice though generally, albeit rather odd that it doesn't have DLNA/Airplay support generally (although I guess by adding the Plex app you could get something like that?). But I guess that's not quite what they had in mind for it.
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Yes, Chromecast is a bit different in its intent - it's more of a "media player extension" to your existing smart device.
Plex on Chromecast still requires Plex Media Server running on something. If PMS is running on the NAS device it doesn't add to the equipment count, but PMS on NAS can't always transcode, so that limits the benefit to a degree.
The only tricky part with DLNA is the variance in support between servers and clients. DLNA defines the protocols for exposing and transferring the media, but it's still up to the server what it wants to show, and the renderer wants to render.
External subtitles (separate files like .srt and .ssa) are especially tricky as not all servers will send the subtitle data along with the requested video.
And of course not all DLNA servers will transcode, so the format of your media still matters a lot.
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Yes, Chromecast is a bit different in its intent - it's more of a "media player extension" to your existing smart device.
Plex on Chromecast still requires Plex Media Server running on something. If PMS is running on the NAS device it doesn't add to the equipment count, but PMS on NAS can't always transcode, so that limits the benefit to a degree.
The only tricky part with DLNA is the variance in support between servers and clients. DLNA defines the protocols for exposing and transferring the media, but it's still up to the server what it wants to show, and the renderer wants to render.
External subtitles (separate files like .srt and .ssa) are especially tricky as not all servers will send the subtitle data along with the requested video.
And of course not all DLNA servers will transcode, so the format of your media still matters a lot.
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The video media is MP4 and the audio MP3 or M4A, so hopefully nothing there that's too weird or abstract. Hopefully no transcoding needed, just playback. Subtitles I can live without, but it's a valid point generally.
Plex server won't be an option on the WD-01 (without some serious hacking), so I'm more sure now that DLNA is the way to go. And if it doesn't work, it's only a £20 loss on the whole deal, which I can live with. Anyway the dongle is on order now, so we'll see in a week or two once it arrives and I get to play with it. Now also looking through the various apps for both devices to control it, but there's choices on both so all should be fine I hope.
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The video media is MP4 and the audio MP3 or M4A, so hopefully nothing there that's too weird or abstract. Hopefully no transcoding needed, just playback. Subtitles I can live without, but it's a valid point generally.
Plex server won't be an option on the WD-01 (without some serious hacking), so I'm more sure now that DLNA is the way to go. And if it doesn't work, it's only a £20 loss on the whole deal, which I can live with. Anyway the dongle is on order now, so we'll see in a week or two once it arrives and I get to play with it. Now also looking through the various apps for both devices to control it, but there's choices on both so all should be fine I hope.
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Your media should be compatible with all but the very old/klunky DLNA players, so sounds like a good choice for you!
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Your media should be compatible with all but the very old/klunky DLNA players, so sounds like a good choice for you!
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Happily I can report that it works well (got an iPush dongle in the end, for the DLNA renderer). That said the dongle does have rather a worrying security hole in it (its wifi hotspot password is generically fixed, not changable and publically available) which I'm now trying to persuade the maker to fix via new firmware.
All I need now is for a DLNA firmware update for my RavPower filehub (currently being produced, according to them, due in a few weeks time) and also maybe a DLNA-capable player for my HTC 8X (currently nothing suitable in the WP8 store, only apps that can act as renderers or controllers!). But even at the moment my Nexus 7 can happily read the filehub via SMB and DLNA-cast to the dongle
How are folks casting from media servers to the receiver using the chromecast?
Is it possible to use a USB cable from the microserver to the chromecast or does the device default to the wireless network?
Wireless connection, the usb is purely for power.
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As above, the USB socket is only for power.
I have a Microserver (N40L), with Serviio installed, along with BubbleUPNP server.
I am using BubbleUPNP (paid for version) on my Nexus 5, Nexus 7 and my old Andypad.
The settings I use in the BubbleUPNP app (under ChromeCast) are:
Video Encoding Speed - Ultra Fast
Max Video Bitrate - 4000
Enforce Max Video Bitrate - Checked
Preserve Multichannel Audio - Unchecked (The TV I have my chromecast in doesn't have surround, so a waste of bandwidth for me)
This produces streaming DVD ripped MKVs without any loss of perceivable quality as far as I'm concerned. I've yet to try BluRay rips, but I only bothered ripping a few, and those stuttered over the wired LAN, so guessing Wireless won't be anywhere near as good as that!
Hi,
I have to buy a new wifi router and I think I will buy the TP-Link TL-WDR3600 router.
The router have 2 usb ports.
I want to know if is possible to play movies stored in extenal hd pluged in usb router with chromecast.
Today I used PLEX to play movies from my PC, but I didnt see any option to configure a external hd pluged in a router.
thanks!
Yes, you can. First add the device to the list of devices your computer can see. Then, right click on either the drive or one of the Shared folders within it and give it a drive letter (like Z)... I believe this was called mapping a drive letter.
I have a Western Digital plugged in at home on Ethernet and it works just dandy. I don't know exactly how your router will show network storage drives connected via USB, but I'm gonna guess it's similar.
but, if I do that my PC need to be connected, right?
i want to acess movies in external hd without need any pc, using only plex (or another app), router and TV.
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but, if I do that my PC need to be connected, right?
i want to acess movies in external hd without need any pc, using only plex (or another app), router and TV.
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Plex won't work without something to run the Plex Media Server.
But it looks like the router has options to share attached storage via Samba(SMB), FTP and as a Media Server (presumably native DLNA), so you should be able to use any casting app which can act as a DLNA receiver or can access SMB shares. Localcast and BubbleUPnP spring to mind. You are likely to be limited to casting media that is already in a Chromecast native format though.